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How to Use and Sharpen a Stanley 80 or 81 Scraping Plane 

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If you are not happy with a card scraper and the wood is too figured for a smoothing plane then a Stanley 80 or 81 may be the right tool for you.
Here we discuss the uses and needs for a scraping plane. also how to use and sharpen a Stanley 80 and 81.
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@jamesbradley9474
@jamesbradley9474 2 года назад
This video is invaluable. I have a No. 80 coming from ebay and this video gives me everything I need to know to get it set up. THANK YOU!
@joohnny59
@joohnny59 5 лет назад
Sad story, my father recently passed away and the Stanley 80 was at the bottom of his toolbox. No Instructions although I do know how to use spokeshaves. I too sharpened it and tried to use it to no avail. This video sorted out every question i could possibly ask. Well done and I'm glad I came across this website. Used it and it does just what is says on the can. Many thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
Thank you. I love to see a good tool put back to work.
@RTP-fi4zl
@RTP-fi4zl Год назад
I don't even know where mine came from, probably in a tool box I got at a yard sale or something. I'm a carpenter so of course it intrigued me but I had no clue what it actually was or how to set it up but I tried and didnt quite hit the mark. This was the first video I found on it and the only one I needed to get my #80 set up and working perfectly, so perfectly I took about a ¼in out of a scrap piece of 1x4 after watching this, it seriously is satisfying and a little bit addicting!!!! Thank you very much, you helped me add another very useful tool to my arsenal!!!
@travisreese7229
@travisreese7229 7 лет назад
James: Watched this like 5 times today. Per our other discussion I used the kitchen knife honing tool to roll a burr onto the blade. It was AWESOME! Got the burr and super sweet shavings. Thanks again!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
Sweet! that is what I like to hear. that can be a seriously fun tool!
@robertnydza123456789
@robertnydza123456789 8 лет назад
Thanks for demonstrating the direction to place the blade. I have a #80 (and no experience using one) and have been driving myself nuts trying to figure out the direction to place the blade. Greatly appreciated!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
thank you! that is about as good a compliment as they come. if you ever have any questions feel free to ask. I would love to help out. might even turn them into a video.
@canigetanemail
@canigetanemail 5 лет назад
Sir, you have a great voice for audio books. I never thought listening to someone talk about scraping planes & card scrapers could be so oddly relaxing. If I watch 300 more videos I might even become a woodworker :)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
LOL thanks. I have done some voice-over work.
@aslob9321
@aslob9321 6 лет назад
Well, I’m glad I watched this. I was using mine backwards! No wonder it cut so poorly... lol
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
That would do it. Glad I could help.
@charlesthomas9294
@charlesthomas9294 3 года назад
Yeah. I had the card in backward so the bevel was toward the front.
@drsquirrel00
@drsquirrel00 3 года назад
I read your comment, and was like "yea I can see why a few people push it away from them, I know to pull mine". Well... I was still wrong! Easy to get mixed up with a spokeshave.
@HWCism
@HWCism 3 года назад
Thanks. I have had mine for years. Not many people know what it is. Good demonstration.
@PETERDOBSON-yh6hx
@PETERDOBSON-yh6hx Год назад
Thanks explained so succinctly. now I can use mine
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 7 лет назад
James: After about 10 hours of trying to correct all the problems with my new 80, I have gotten it to a point where it works. Not well, but it is a start. The original owner of this Scraping Plane took a file to the back edge of the steel blade. He did not file it straight either. So, I had to use sandpaper and my diamond plates to flatten the back. Then, I had to reprofile the bevel to 45 degrees. This steel blade is really, really hard. I got it to something that resembles a good proflie so I could roll the edge and try it. It does scrape. Not like yours. Yet. Really rough and choppy. I still have a ton of work on the sole to flatten it out and still working on the blade. I even ordered wider diamond plates to work on this. (I will have them forever) Thank you for your explanation and information. You helped immensely with trying to restore this old scraper.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
wow! That is a lot of work. thankfully once it si done then you don't have to mess with it.
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 7 лет назад
I am assuming the original owner did not have RU-vid and just did what he thought was correct. I realize that when I flatten and reprofile the blade, I will not have to do it again. The black paint is in very good shape so I will not be striping the metal and repainting. I am a weekend crafter and don't need that kind of restoration. But yes, my shoulders ache.
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 7 лет назад
A friend just gave me one of these today. I did not know what to do with it until I watch you set it up and work with it. (he gave me a no. 12 also) Can't wait to clean it up and sharpen the blade. Thanks James.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
WOW, great friend. the 12 is almost worth its weight in gold. Great friend!
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 7 лет назад
Yes, he is. He inherited these tools from his father-in-law who got them from his (father-in-law's) neighbor who was a cabinet maker. So, these have an interesting heritage. They are in great shape. I will prepare the blades and see what I can do with them. If you don't have a burnisher, what can you use instead to make the burr?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
You can use any piece of steel that is harder than the card. most screwdrivers are not hard enough. some people use the back of a good knife. but you can usually use a burnisher you get from a kitchen supply store.
@Postfrogish
@Postfrogish 2 года назад
Once again the Wright Archive saves the day. Just got a no. 80 handed down from my dad. While being a tool geek, he's more into metalworking and construction. So he had this in the back of a cupboard. Looking forward to putting it to good use
@geraldgrosskreutzjr125
@geraldgrosskreutzjr125 5 лет назад
Thanks for helping me to become a better woodworker.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
Thanks. My pleasure.
@aceeagle57
@aceeagle57 Год назад
thanks; really enjoyed your video; have just obtained a vintage 80 and a 12 and will restore them to use.
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan 4 года назад
Excellent vid and explanation!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 года назад
Thanks. Glad to get out.
@edwardcharles9764
@edwardcharles9764 7 лет назад
I got an old record 80 and after messing with that for what seemed like an age, I've just watched this and realised I've been using the bugger backwards! Many thanks for some great info. (There were times I threatened to drop kick it up the garden!)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
Oh sorry for that. they are a great tool. but yup they go backward! LOL
@jeffkerr4249
@jeffkerr4249 6 лет назад
Thanks James, I just got a Stanley 81 off E Bay in good shape and ordered a Hock blade for it. Will be refurbishing it. This video answered so many questions that I signed up on your Patreon Account. Keep it up. You have the best You Tube Channel out there for working with handtools. If you lived closed I would love to hang out with you.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
+Jeff Kerr thanks Jeff. That means more then you could know! Feel free to swing by if you are ever in town.
@genghisbunny
@genghisbunny 7 лет назад
Thanks for the great explanation. I was given a box of planes by my father in law and didn't know how to use my no. 80. Looking forward to using it now.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
don't have too much fun. those can be addictive!
@genghisbunny
@genghisbunny 7 лет назад
Thanks, I haven't quite got the burnish right yet but I'm confident I can get there now.
@alexanderralph2504
@alexanderralph2504 5 лет назад
So helpful. Just picked one up, was baffled initially by the bevel, thought i'd check whether you had a video explaining it........mystery solved!! All set to go 👍
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
Glad I could help!
@michael.knight
@michael.knight 2 года назад
Great video, just ordered a used Stanley #80 for 20 bucks. Seems like a really useful tool for difficult grains.
@MrTrapper28
@MrTrapper28 3 года назад
Very good review. I have just been given an 80 by my neighbour!
@markharris5771
@markharris5771 5 лет назад
I have an Axminster 80, who are a mid range company here in the U.K. It has a shorter and thicker blade but after flattening it runs like a dream and is really easy for a newbie to use. It took some flattening though, about 30 minutes but because I get so breathless it does take me longer. I’m never too sure how long is acceptable for a new tool but I think it’s worth doing properly. I had to buy new as I couldn’t afford used, really tatty second hand Stanleys seem to be going for a fortune here in the U.K. That is if you can find one anywhere else but eBay which is a massive rip off for S/H tools, everyone seems to think their pile of rust and holes is worth a fortune. My next tool is going to be a brace and bits I don’t mind new bits but I don’t want a new brace with plastic handles so I’m going to have to hold out until I see one at the right price and condition. Another excellent and useful video, thank you James.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
so true. the stanleys on anything are always more expensive, but for a tool like this it does not matter. cheaper works just as well.
@scottsh21
@scottsh21 6 лет назад
Thanks for this video. Its my goto reference for a quick reminder on dealing with my No. 80.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
thanks man that means a lot!
@robb2869
@robb2869 Год назад
Perfect video, thank you, it answered all the questions I had and more 👍🏻😊
@robinr6919
@robinr6919 3 года назад
Thanks man! Appreciate your info.
@larryg3326
@larryg3326 7 лет назад
Thanks much for this! Just today I found a Stanley 81 in an old toolbox that belonged to my grandfather and was wondering how it was used. Grandfather was a farmer and carpenter in the first half of the last century and built everything from barns to a chassis-mounted motor home. Guess I need to find a project for it.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
+Larry Barker that is cool. Love a tool with a history.
@chrisk3195
@chrisk3195 6 лет назад
Thank you! I just acquired a Stanley 80M and this was very helpful.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
thanks Christopher! don't have too much fun!
@trevsutton8185
@trevsutton8185 8 лет назад
Great video James , looks really easy to use , couldn't believe how fast that thing took the finish off!!.. Amazing!! Now I'm going to try and find one . Looking forward to the next video , keep up the good work. Trev
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
thanks. Veritas and Lee Nelson both make a version of it. but you can buy the originals on ebay.
@ecaff9515
@ecaff9515 5 лет назад
Excellent video and process. You saved my project. Thanks for sharing.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
Thanks. Glad I can help.
@shonuffisthemaster
@shonuffisthemaster 6 лет назад
good video, thanks! i have a smaller stanley scraper that ill have to get back into working shape, but im now thinking about getting an 80 too!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
They are a fun tool
@markpeterman9657
@markpeterman9657 8 лет назад
I have one and I love it. Mine is a Marke Kunz No 80
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
Green! I love it!
@philallard5090
@philallard5090 8 лет назад
This looks like an amazingly satisfying tool to use. I'll have to keep a look out for one.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
thanks. Veritas and Lee Nelson both make a version of it. but you can buy the originals on ebay. I have yet to see one in garage sale.
@MauricioZuluagaEstrada
@MauricioZuluagaEstrada 2 года назад
Thanks!
@billfromelma
@billfromelma 8 лет назад
Hey James, great review and demo. That blade is doing a great job for you, as it did for me. Enjoy.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
It was perfect timing. I got it in the mail about an hour before shooting the video. I have not read through that book looks like a good one I am really looking forward to diving into that. Huge thanks for the blade. works like a charm!
@billfromelma
@billfromelma 8 лет назад
your very welcome my friend.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
If you are ever in northern IL let me know and we can say hey maybe do lunch.
@jeffpepple3354
@jeffpepple3354 Год назад
Great, instructive video! Could you tell me where you got your sharpening stones? Thank you!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Год назад
Here is what I use. www.woodbywright.com/tool-suggestions/sharpening
@bwhite661
@bwhite661 4 года назад
Excellent tutorial! Thanks! Except for the Packers shirt. SKOL!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 года назад
LOL thanks!
@rosshollinger8097
@rosshollinger8097 5 лет назад
Got it. Thanks, James.
@danielsolowiej
@danielsolowiej 8 лет назад
Very clear, and so easy to adjust! You was answering all my questions in real time. Wat to say now ? good done and thank you James.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
thanks man!that is a great complement! glad you liked it.
@johnsherwood3649
@johnsherwood3649 8 лет назад
Great tip. I have two that are in need of a tune up, this will help! Thanks!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
GLad you like it! thanks. looking forward to seeing yours!
@donnymcarter
@donnymcarter 8 лет назад
Very cool scraper! I need one of these! Thanks for some great info James!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
Thanks man! if I had an extra one I would send it to you.
@donnymcarter
@donnymcarter 8 лет назад
+Wood By Wright I know you would! Thank you!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
that would make a great give away some time.
@donnymcarter
@donnymcarter 8 лет назад
+Wood By Wright yes it would!
@aslob9321
@aslob9321 6 лет назад
I just cleaned it up and applied a burr, this thing is amazing!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
such a fun tool! enjoy your time.
@seery88
@seery88 4 года назад
Great video... i would add : use a vise when burnishing...imo
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 года назад
A lot of people like to do that. I find it just be one more step and just as easy for me to do it in hand but it does take a little bit more hand control for it.
@tropifiori
@tropifiori 8 лет назад
I have struggled with the #80. I will give it another try as I have abig stack of figured walnut that is very diffucult to handplane.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
Feel free to message me any time I would love to help trouble shoot that sounds like a great use for it.
@mikeking7470
@mikeking7470 Год назад
I just bought a Kunz #80, looks brand new, there are machining marks in the sole, should I fettle it like I would a plane? The Kunz Christmas green paint takes some getting used to.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Год назад
They don't need to be flat like a plane just smooth.
@bingbingbongbong2615
@bingbingbongbong2615 6 лет назад
I came across your video about a week ago. I found a Stanley 80 in amongst old tools in a forgotten chest. Your video got me motivated in using it as a go to tool now. My question..... The blade has got a curve to it. About a 1mm to both ends. Is this just from age of sharpning/usage or must it be straigh ? I've sharpened/burred it as is and works fine. But would a straight edge be better? Seeing that as you tighten the "bend" screw it flexes convex to the surface you are working. Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
Some people use to curve it a bit, but it was a personal preference. Traditionally all finishing tools scooped out wood rather then cutting a flat section. This sounds crazy to the power tools mind set, but the slight curve is imperceptible to the hand or eye.
@bingbingbongbong2615
@bingbingbongbong2615 6 лет назад
Wood By Wright Thanks. I'll leave it as it is then .
@johncharbottle8691
@johncharbottle8691 2 года назад
Can it be used on the pull stroke with equal results? Also, aren't cabinet/ card scrapers to be used only on hardwoods?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 года назад
You can use it on the push or the pull stroke. It's just a little bit more difficult to pull it as it will want to rotate out of contact. So you have to put more pressure behind the plane. When you pull it. You can use scrapers on softwoods but you have to have a very very good burr. It's one of those times where the harder the wood. The easier it works the softer, the wood, the harder it is to work with.
@ay8306
@ay8306 3 года назад
Great video, very useful! I just picked up a No 80 that the previous owner had ground a fairly significant camber onto one side of the blade (including a 45 deg bevel following the camber). Sort of like a "scrub" scraper. It would be easy enough to remove, but I am wondering if there is a reason why someone might do that and if it would be useful to leave it that way.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 года назад
It sounds like it might have been a specialty profile for doing some particular trim or something of that nature but I don't know why you would want to do that for standard use.
@ay8306
@ay8306 3 года назад
@@WoodByWright Thanks for the reply! I was guessing it was probably something like that.
@samrios9590
@samrios9590 3 года назад
i have watched your video so many times and sharpened my no 80 accordingly. but i always get heavy vibrations and chatter as i use it. any ideas as to what im doing wrong? thanks in advance looking foward to your insight .
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 года назад
With a cabinet scraper usually the problem is you're trying to take too deep of a cut. It should just barely be sticking out to scrape the top of the surface. if it catches too much then it bounces back and forth as it goes forward.
@leksey7870
@leksey7870 8 лет назад
A convenient tool. Good video. Like!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
Thanks. it is a joy to use.
@dougruff9459
@dougruff9459 2 года назад
I have two Stanley number 80 scrapers however one of them has four holes one in each corner coming down through the sole and a much wider throat. I was wondering if anyone knows about these differences and how to utilize the different one.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 года назад
That sounds like a user modification. It was fairly common to drill four holes so that you could mount a piece of wood underneath. The problem is you need to make the mouth bigger so it doesn't jam up
@lannyallen5807
@lannyallen5807 Год назад
I know that this is an older video, but i just learned why my #80 wouldn't work.... I was using it backwards.... Just got in to this "hobby" if you cant tell lol
@daviddorothy4969
@daviddorothy4969 8 лет назад
When I was looking for new ideas for doing my floor I came across an article about this. It looked really interesting because it saves your thumbs and because the article made it sound like you were actually turning the edge rather than just making a burr. I wondered, and still do, if that makes the edge last longer than on a card scraper. Have any thoughts on how long this stays sharp as opposed to a card scraper? If so I may bite the bullet and get one since I have a couple other projects coming up it may be useful for.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
+David Dorothy it lasts just as long as a scraper it it the same action as a scraper. Just more controled. If I were doing a floor I would expect to scrape 6 squar feet a side. Then flip the blade and do it again. Then spend another 3 minites rolling a new bur. You can probablr re roll the bur 3-4 times before you have to sharpen it again. But still faster and cleaner then a sander. The down side is you can not get close to walls with it.
@jimschowe2770
@jimschowe2770 2 года назад
Are you using a knife steel as a burnisher?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 года назад
Yes. You can use any steel rod that is harder then the scraper. Now I use carbide rods.
@adamquincey4371
@adamquincey4371 8 лет назад
I think I want to get a scraping plane now... Cheers...
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
Thanks! that are so much fun. I have been thinking of making one.
@kelblake5818
@kelblake5818 8 лет назад
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@kenfewell4200
@kenfewell4200 3 года назад
Could I use this on 100 year old hardwood to remove paint and glue?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 года назад
Yes. This and card scrapers are phenomenal for removing old finish and paint.
@jasonnoble2470
@jasonnoble2470 7 лет назад
I am restoring a sweetheart era 12 1/2. it doesn't have a iron/card. what could I use and how thick does it need to be? thanks
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
toy can use an old saw plate. I actualy have a video on making one. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mfgCQ4lyBrQ.html
@TheSixgutstring
@TheSixgutstring 5 лет назад
Would this work with wood that has multiple layers of paint on it as an alternative to chemical stripping?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
yes. this and a card scraper are one of the best ways to strip paint.
@jonmatle
@jonmatle 7 лет назад
I just picked up an old Stanley 80, and I noticed that the iron had one flat edge and one cambered edge, whereas you have two flat edges here? Is there any purpose to keeping one side of the iron cambered, similar to a scrub plane, or should I flatten that back out?
@jamesloyalwright6544
@jamesloyalwright6544 7 лет назад
Jon Matle the only reason I can think of is if you have a common rounded Grove that you are making all the time. I don't see a reason for one. they will never take a deep cut. it will just give you an uneven surface.
@tps1539
@tps1539 8 лет назад
nice video James. I was wondering what is the difference between a burnisher and a steel and can i use my steel as a burnisher
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
generally nothing. Steel has a lot more meanings to a lot of different people. so basically all burnishers are steels but not all steels are hard enough to be a burnisher. thanks!
@tps1539
@tps1539 8 лет назад
thanks for your input
@magikstick100
@magikstick100 7 лет назад
thanks for sharing! what are your sharpening stones? where can i buy some? thanks
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
Here are what I use. Diamond Stones: amzn.to/2oppz0J (I use Extra Coarse, Medium-fine, and Extra fine)
@pinballrobbie
@pinballrobbie 4 месяца назад
As a cabinet maker in England, I always heard these being called Dodgers, great for getting old polish off of old tables etc. This was about 50 years ago.
@carbonitegamorrean8368
@carbonitegamorrean8368 6 лет назад
Nice, thx, I think I need one now...lol
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
+Carbonite Gamorrean I use mine all the time.
@jasonroets9906
@jasonroets9906 7 лет назад
Hi rob. I've got a problem. I have a lot of highly figured African rosewood. It's very dense and dulls my plane in 7 passes. It is so hard it puts chips in the iron very quickly. My problem is that it is so figured that I will get tear out regardless which direction I plane in. It also has these beautiful swirls but it's a nightmare to use hand tools on. I really want to use it but this tear out is driving me insane. Do you think the Stanley #80 will help? Do you have any other tips?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
+Jason Roets yes a cabnet scraper would defenetly help. It will be slower but it will do much better.
@jasonroets9906
@jasonroets9906 7 лет назад
Wood By Wright I brought a record scraper from an old wood worker as well as a few planes and spokeshaves. I'm going to tune it and get back to you. the wood if I didn't say above is African rosewood and I'm a South African woodworker. So Howzit from the homeland!!!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
Sweet! my wife spent two years in South Africa we keep trying to get back there for a trip.
@jasonroets9906
@jasonroets9906 7 лет назад
Hi I brought a second hand record scraper and sharpened it using your method. I've used it on all my woods and i have two questions. The surface feels less smooth than when i use my plane. Is that because the plane burnishes the surface? Secondly it only seems to cut in the middle centimeter or so. Is that normal? I figured out why my iron kept dulling so quickly. it was because the plane i purchased was cheap so the steel quality wasn't great. I upgraded and i am getting better results
@davidtroncoso9313
@davidtroncoso9313 6 лет назад
Where did you get those sanding squares? Thank you!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
the sanding squares? if you are talking about the foam block pads I get those at the big box store.
@donlarue2573
@donlarue2573 5 лет назад
Thinking he may have meant the 3 stones(?) you used to sharpen the scraper blade. Great video, thks. @@WoodByWright
@b1j
@b1j 6 лет назад
where can I get one of these without going through eBay?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
Most MWTCA meets have a couple. You can also keep your eye on Hyperkiten every now and then you get lucky. Also you could ask if anyone has one for sale on one of the unplugged or hand tool groups on Facebook or a forum. Other then that it is a lot of hunting at estate sales, antique stores and swap meets.
@b1j
@b1j 6 лет назад
Wood By Wright thanks for the thorough reply. I’m glad I found your channel.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
My pleasure Bob.
@b1j
@b1j 6 лет назад
Wood By Wright no MWTCA here in Northern California. This may take a while to find. Is it worth looking at the Veritas cabinet scraper? Not vintage, but it sounds good on “paper.” I like how the top of the blade is set into the tool. Do you know this tool and its quality compared with a Stanley #80?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
ya we are trying to get one started out there. we just need someone to do the legwork out there and host it. the one from Veritas is fantastic and a good tool. It is more of just a card scraper as you keep the angle of it, but it saves your thumbs. I have also used this one and really enjoyed it. amzn.to/2HHX0Hq the best bang for the buck in my book.
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 8 лет назад
Question! I have an 80, is the 81 worth owning?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
+William Branham for most people there is no difference. the wooden soul of the 81 will help burnish the surface. There are a few other minor things but not much. If I found a good price on an 81 I would grab it.
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 5 лет назад
After almost three years, I still cannot turn an effective burr. They should make scrapers like contact lenses. Use them for a month, throw them out (recycle) and use a new one. I keep trying....
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
Sorry man. We should get together some time and fix that.
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 5 лет назад
@@WoodByWright Oh, I saw a video by Vic Tesslin and he showed a very simple technique for turning a burr. He was giving a talk in Australia. Plus, I recently found out that card scrapers do not work well on soft woods. I build with a lot of pine. (just boxes and trays). I was shown that card scrapers work the best with hard woods. I also have to fix my smoothing plane. I did not round off the corners of my iron when setting it up. So I don't get gouge lines at the edges of my plane iron. It is the most fun to fix these little things as I learn.
@nathantonning
@nathantonning 8 лет назад
First!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
LOL thanks!
@throwplasticnotbutts
@throwplasticnotbutts 4 года назад
I believe the difference between the 80 and the 81 is the center screw. It's my understanding the 81 doesn't have one and therefore can't adjust as well as the 80. I believe the rosewood bottoms were available between 1909 - 1942, but I don't know if they were available for the 80, the 81, or both.
@throwplasticnotbutts
@throwplasticnotbutts 4 года назад
Well it was available for the 81 for sure.
@Gwynbuck
@Gwynbuck 2 года назад
Good to hear that you Americans are using that wonderful word 'bonkers'. I found this on the internet 'Its origins are unclear, but bonkers is first recorded as British naval slang for “a bit drunk” in the 1940s-perhaps acting like someone has bonked, or hit, them on the head'. Some of us Brits thought Trump was bonkers, but in the world of bonkerdom, Putin puts Trump in the shade!
@ismaelgomez5649
@ismaelgomez5649 3 месяца назад
Great video! Thanks!!!
@bocfus72
@bocfus72 6 месяцев назад
I’ve been following you for a few years now and I have learned a lot from you, I just got a new meet 80 this past weekend and your video was the first one that came up in my search, the only thing I have a question about is your burnishing rod, is a steel you would use on knives or would any piece of metal work?? Thanks for doing what you do and keep up the great work!!!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 месяцев назад
Thanks that means a lot. As to the burnisher. It needs to be a harder steel then what you are burnishing. I generally use a carbide rod. www.woodbywright.com/shop/burnisher
@matthewbrady5214
@matthewbrady5214 2 года назад
Can you still just make the blade out of old saws like a card scraper? Also, what’s with the magnet on the back of your card scraper?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 года назад
You can use a saw plate for this. However, it tends to be a bit too thin for most people's liking. It vibrates and chatters a bit more. But it can do the trick. I put a magnet on the back of a card scraper to keep my thumbs cool. If you do a lot of scraping it heats up and can be very hot to touch. The magnet will allow you to keep your thumbs there without burning them.
@SantiagoLascurainGuitar
@SantiagoLascurainGuitar 3 года назад
Awesome!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 5 лет назад
I got one of them Stanley 80s. I can barely get it to do anything. I think the blade in it is shot. It's not really flat anymore. It's is all whipped out and bowed.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
Interesting I've ever heard of a blade doing that before. You can actually use a card scraper in these you don't need an actual blade.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 5 лет назад
@@WoodByWright yeah at its best I'd say it is doing what yours did before you turned it up. Because I can't raise a very good burr on it due to the poor condition of the blade. I almost managed to polish the back of it though despite it being shaped like a potato now. Maybe it needs a couple more smacks on the anvil? The few I've already given it seem to have helped it out a lot.
@jimmyjimjimmyjimjimjimjim4437
@jimmyjimjimmyjimjimjimjim4437 3 года назад
Great video. But some people round the corners a bit instead of leaving it square.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 года назад
very true. a lot of people do that with most any smoothing tools. I prefer not to, but everyone is different.
@aceeagle57
@aceeagle57 Год назад
hi: what do you call the metal plates that you used to sharpen the blade?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Год назад
Those are diamond plates made by DFM tools. Here's a link to all the ones I use. www.woodbywright.com/tool-suggestions/sharpening
@micheldumont5298
@micheldumont5298 4 года назад
Hello James Last week I bought a cabinet scraper on second hand market; it has same design and same dimensions than #80 Stanley , but no mark of manufacturer, only the "N° 180" . Have you ever seen this kind of tool? Thank you for answer Michel (from Cognac, France)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 года назад
There are many other companies that made these. Some of them would mark them and some of them would not. Even Stanley made a series that they didn't mark so that local hardware stores could brand their own.
@micheldumont5298
@micheldumont5298 4 года назад
@@WoodByWright Thanks !
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549 3 года назад
Stephen, just purchased a Bulldog number 80. The blade appears much thicker than yours, almost a plane blade thickness. Can this be a problem? Thanks!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 года назад
Yes. A lot of people like really thick iron and that way they can get a straight shaving all the way across the weight of the iron. It's just a personal preference on how to thick the iron is.
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549 3 года назад
@@WoodByWright used and referenced you in my instagram post. Took an hour to get the back of the blade true. Turning the burr was also tricky for a newbie. Actually took some shavings, but had chatter. Murphy is teaching me what not to do
@fa18mhr
@fa18mhr 5 лет назад
I picked up a vintage Stanley 80 and had only guessed at how to sharpen, mount, adjust, and use it. Now I know so I expect it will work so much better and I will use it much more often. Thanks Patrick. You da man!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
Sweet. Glad I could help!
@EvanDunville
@EvanDunville 8 лет назад
Thanks so much for this video, I have a Stanley # 80 and the information in this video clarified a few mistakes I was making!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 лет назад
+Evan Dunville glad I could help. If you ever have any questions feel free to ask. Any time.
@gnomacide07
@gnomacide07 7 лет назад
This is EXACTLY the video that I needed! Thank you! Headed out to the shop to get mine sharpened!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
+Daniel Harney Sweet! Have fun Daniel!
@Brennan128
@Brennan128 3 года назад
Where do you find the coloring of your planes?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 года назад
I use a Rust-Oleum spray paint. If I restore a plane for my use I paint it my shop colors. The most the time if I restore a plane for general use or to sell I use original japanning.
@malcolmchadwick4047
@malcolmchadwick4047 4 года назад
James, do you think it would help as a burnisher wood on wood if a piece of 6mm ply was glued to the bottom. I like mine as it is to be fair.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 года назад
you could do that just have to make sure there is enough room on the mouth for the curls to come out.
@malcolmchadwick4047
@malcolmchadwick4047 4 года назад
May be James a video compare the two and see which is smoother. Just a thought.
@horsetowater
@horsetowater Год назад
Great suff got a second hand no80 today, scraper edge looked like a scrub plane when i got it! I went from clueless to nice wisps in 30mins with your tutorial! Thank you
@mikeknowlden9617
@mikeknowlden9617 11 месяцев назад
Wife ( better half!) Got me this and I did not know what or how to use it. I was doing it backwards lol. This helped alot
@CCCC-tq8yo
@CCCC-tq8yo 5 лет назад
Where did you order your Stanly scraper 80.... Most reviews on ebay say poorly made....???? Looking to order one in the next few days.....
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549 3 года назад
Just purchased a number 80 from Rockler. I've seen this used and I'm hoping to do some clean work. Thanks!
@adcr7829
@adcr7829 7 лет назад
Hello, does anybody know if a knife sharpening steel can be used as a burnisher? The steel has lines/small grooves running along its length. The burnishers I have seen seem to be smooth along the length. Thank you
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
+ad cr sure. That is actually what mine is you just can't see it in the video.
@adcr7829
@adcr7829 7 лет назад
That's great news and will save me a bit of money. I was just a bit worried in case the grooves in the steel blunted my sharp edge. Thanks for helping me out.
@travnicek
@travnicek 6 лет назад
I must have a different one than Mr. Wright. It took the hook clean off my card scraper. Mayhap I was too aggressive with mine. I would suggest try yours and see if it works, as it cannot hurt, but burnishers don't cost much.
@bingbingbongbong2615
@bingbingbongbong2615 6 лет назад
I use a 17mm Gedore spanner. Edge is hard and easy to use.
@chomo100
@chomo100 2 года назад
Thanks man. 1st video on the stanley #80 scraper, no need to look further
@MsParsley222
@MsParsley222 7 лет назад
I bought one of these some time ago but struggled with it. I'm heading out to the shed this afternoon to set it up following your excellent advice.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
thanks. and good luck. let me know if you have any questions.
@MsParsley222
@MsParsley222 7 лет назад
Wood By Wright Thank you James that is very kind. After a little tinkering again this morning I am now getting nice shavings from a bit of oak and am a happy bunny.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
sweet! that is what I like to hear!
@rustyshimstock8653
@rustyshimstock8653 2 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to share some useful knowledge!
@owenkilgour7477
@owenkilgour7477 3 года назад
Great video. Are you using a knifebm sharpening steel to burnish it?
@OldSneelock
@OldSneelock 6 лет назад
After cleaning up and fixing the missing blade on the Stanley No. 80 that I was lucky enough to assemble from scrap parts I of course posted video of the process. As I'm going through and setting up the playlist your video series popped up on my feed. You have done an excellent job of explaining something that took me a while to get the hang of. Thanks for sharing.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
thanks man. that means a lot.
@jerryrobinson3656
@jerryrobinson3656 6 лет назад
Old Sneelock's Workshop i
@scott8351
@scott8351 3 года назад
Thank you, great video. I am getting one soon.
@jiml9944
@jiml9944 6 лет назад
Wonder if you have a 80 chatter when using it on white oak ? My blade is made from a thin kerf circle saw blade. I cannot have the bend adjust screw touch the blade- it must be loose but still chatters. Thanks, Jim
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
I have no problem with chatter. If it does show up usually that is a sign that you are taking too deep a cut or there is not enough pressure on the blade.
@adamthewoodworker2571
@adamthewoodworker2571 3 года назад
Hey, how well does the No. 80 work on end grain?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 года назад
Not as well. Scrapers can work on it, but not well.
@adamthewoodworker2571
@adamthewoodworker2571 3 года назад
@@WoodByWright Thanks! So the shooting board is still the best bet?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 года назад
Yes. Far better.
@adamthewoodworker2571
@adamthewoodworker2571 3 года назад
@@WoodByWright Sorry, one last question that i'll just attach here instead of starting a new thread on your other video. About how much is realist to take off with end grain using the shooting board? I have some 2x4's that are about 3-5mm off from being the same height. Do you think I could use the shooting board to get them even or is that too much to take off of end grain?
@legalsolutions07
@legalsolutions07 7 лет назад
What would you suggest using on a Boos butcher block when I want to get all the oil and grim off? It has an end grain top made of maple.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 лет назад
A low angle hand plane with a 20 or 25-degree iron and sharpen it every few passes.
@strange-universe
@strange-universe 6 лет назад
hey James, good stuff. I was working on some tuning/restoring tonight, and one of the tools was a No 12. Would you also put a 45 deg on that as well? I need to go back and listen for the reasoning behind that, I guess. Thanks for all the work you do!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 лет назад
you do not need the 45 it just makes it easier to turn the bur as you will not quickly flip the card around like you would with a card scraper. but the #12 came with a 45 on it from the factory.
@strange-universe
@strange-universe 6 лет назад
Thanks for that info, this #12 is going to need straightened, then I'll put a 45 on it.
@dabarboza51
@dabarboza51 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for the videos. They all seem to be great so far...and I am kinda of a fussy woodworker. Can I roll the edge with a nice smooth round of mild steel or is hardened better? Wish i got back into woodworking long ago. I've forgotten more than I now know. Spent a year and a half as a pattern maker for a foundry. Been in sawdust most all my life. Wish I was as fly on the wall in your shop.. Thanks again!!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 лет назад
Thanks that means a lot. Unfortunately mild steel is just too soft. If you have a file with a safe side that works.
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