How to Use Asset Editor to Edit Warhammer 3 Models 

Yeah for sure. Asset Editor made my modding life doable. Prior to it I was really struggling with the mods I could make.

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 Thank you so much for these tutorials as it really helps a lot!

What would you like explained more?

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 I think you need to follow your explaining style on kossar stalkers. That one was really spot on. Create something from scratch in order for people who are new to actually follow what you're doing. Assume everyone that watches you must be dumb because I am. But somehow through your channel I've learn quite a few but had to take it from each and every video.

Awesome! Glad to hear it.

Not sure how I missed this one. Never got a notification I guess. Anyway you use the Pin Tool to pin parts to other parts if they don't animate right and are rigid.

Back in the day you used them to change the weights of things (so they animated differently) or the alphas (so things were invisible or not) but these days with AssetEditor I do not know of any reason to bother messing in the wsmodels. Everything you use to do in them can be done with rigid models in AssetEditor.The only real reason to generate a wsmodel is to avoid having to change the variantmeshdefinition but that seems pretty lazy. Also I don't like to override existing models. I like to create new ones so that other mods that might use the original models are not affected.

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 is it possible to extract the tex from the model? Or do i have to edit the original tex files to retexture?

@@HomerJSimpson999 Yes you can extract it but I don't think you can do it from Asset Editor. You do it in RPFM. The files are in the data folder and in variants_dds or any of the similarly named variant_dds2 etc. Each texture has like 4 different dds files that you can modify. I do that in my long video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_lLquH5IIgY.html

No there isn't a setting. What you do is select the "editable model" on the right hand side and you should be able to see the LODs and change them. Copy and paste though as it doesn't like completely removing any information with backspace. If you are making a single character like a lord or hero then just go to tools and choose "Copy LOD0 to every LOD slot" as that will solve LOD issues easily...but by making the unit overly detailed at a distance.

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 thank you so much. I didn't even think to copy paste it in

Most likely the variantmeshdefintion calls the .wsmodel of the figure rather than the .rigid_model_v2 which is what you edited (probably) so you need to import that rigid_model you created to a mod and then make sure the variant mesh definition calls to that rather than the wsmodel.

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 Yes! That was the issue and just found how to do all that in your Skrag video. Thank you so much!

What application?

In what way?

Depends on what you want to do. I use Tools>Copy LOD 0 to other LODs if it is a single character otherwise I would go through and just extend out the distance that the different LODs kick in by clicking on the right hand side "Editable model" and changing the information on the LODs.

I use RPFM to extract files. You Just right click on a file you want to extract and say extract. The issue might arise when you import it to Blender or whatever if you don't have the correct plugins to read the model (I would assume). Personally I don't do anything in Blender so the exact details are better asked on the discord since I know there are people out there using Blender for their mods.

Yes it is possible to extract the models. I have also done it with RMEditor I think back when I was messing around trying to figure out how to mod and before I found AssetEditor.

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 do you by chance have a walkthrough of that? Pretty new at this so if you had any on hand -insight on how to do that would appreciate it haha. If you got the time obviously. Or at least a proper link to the RMEditor your referring to? Just want to be sure I'd be using the right stuff.

@@robosoldier11 I am seeking to do this. Is there a tutorial or sth? (Or a link to Karl Franz.blend and Balthasar Gelt.blend models? ;)

@@theyellowarchitect4504 its been a little while since I delved into this. But there are some videos I believe out there where you at the very least can extract them and convert the file to make it into blender. Though where I just can't remember. As for existing models of those two characters there might be something out there I just am not aware of them.

@@robosoldier11 Thank you for the swift reply. I will look into this when the time comes (gotta extract the voicelines first) If you happen to stumble into those links, do share though xaxaxa

You have to re-rig that part that you copied. So you select the part that is mirrored and put into place on the left hand. Go to the Re-Rigging tool and change every node on the skeleton of that left thumb (former right) from right hand nodes to left hand ones. So that will require changing all of the parent nodes over from say Right Clav all the way down. Just making them into the Left Clav and whatnot.

Do you have the settings set to WH2 rather than WH3? They use difference dds file name types.

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 no :( how do i do that :(?

@@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou Options. Settings. Set the game directories and the current game you are modding for.

Yes. That is where I got started.

I'll cover that in a video soon. But basically you select the weapon and go to the right of the screen where you will see a connection point. Select the prop_0 or prop_1 etc depending on what it is.

Absolutely. You will need permission from CA to be able to make it a mod on the workshop but yes it can be done with AssetEditor.

Sort of. The main issue that happens between Attila and say WH or Troy is that the skins are defined differently. So you have your .dds files that describe the color and gloss and give the models a smooth 3d appearance (normal map) but with Attila you have them all labeled and done differently. So for example they have like a dirt/grime dds that doesn't exist in WH or Troy. They also use different colors for their normal maps so those would have to be changed. I had these issues with the mod that got me the most hate from internet trolls when I imported a black model into WH. I had to use Troy as the tools on hand would sort of import Attila models but the colors would be off and nothing I did could fix it. Even working directly with the guy who developed the Asset Editor and the guy who developed the RMEditor we couldn't get it fixed. Those tools just couldn't manage it. Now rerigging the actual model was easy so if you like messing with your own .dds skin files then that is great. But more likely than not you don't want to reskin them or anything.

​@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 Thank you for getting back, and sorry for not being able to reply as quick as I would like. I have been playing around with the asset editor a little bit over the last day or two and I have had some success editing some of the custom models that I have rigged for Attila, so thank you for your tutorials getting an idea on how to use it. Are you able to fix the rigging through this tool say if there is a random poly that has been assigned or being affected by the wrong bone? If you have time, would you be able to create a tutorial on how to rig Attila models to the Three Kingdoms skeleton? There is no rush at all, I am working on a continuance for another mod that I worked on called Seven Kingdoms and my mod is still a little while away but I am thinking about maybe porting it over time to either Three Kingdoms or Troy. I just don't want to manually re rig all of the models that I have for it haha. I will happily try to figure out the textures if it's possible. If you don't have the time then no worries I just thought I would ask. Do you by any chance have discord where we could talk better? Also just to say I am experienced with getting custom models into Attila and all the textures that I have created are converted through the bob converter in the Attila Assembly Kit, I am not sure if I can convert the textures in say the Assembly kit for Three kingdoms then assign the textures separately at least that way if it is possible the normal map should be the correct colour, etc.

​@@TheScouseSicario A few things to note that I forgot to mention in using assets from one game in another. You need to get permission from CA to release your mod as they might not want you to do it. Bob the Builder never worked for me when I was trying to convert characters from Atilla into WH but maybe you might get more from it than I did. I generally avoid Bob as much as I can. There are some things that you have to use it for though. Once Bob is released for WH3 I plan on showing how to import models from other games into WH but that is all just waiting on Bob's release.

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 No need to worry about that. I have no intention of using any vanilla assets from one game into another, I have got hundreds of custom models and textures that I have either created myself, or have been created by other modders/3d modellers for other projects that I was involved in and have permission to use for my mods. I mostly use Bob for the texture conversion from Raw Data textures Diffuse, Normal, Gloss, Level and Specular for Attila, I am not sure what is required for the later games just yet, I use Bob to convert the textures to the correct format, and converts them to work with the engine. It changes the colour of the normal from a traditional blue to an orange colour, and also merges the gloss and level to create a texture called gloss map. My guess is maybe if I was shown how to get the model itself rigged to the new skeleton and ingame I could try to work with Bob to convert the textures correctly. I am more focused on Three Kingdoms over Warhammer at the minute. Mostly because the tools are out and the game has stopped development so I don't need to worry about an update screwing the mod up. No problem though I will wait for you video on Warhammer 3 whenever the tools are out and try to use that tutorial to get my assets into Three Kingdoms. Thanks again for the work that you have put into these videos. They are very good tutorials. All the best.

@@TheScouseSicario Ah that makes sense. Fair enough. I didn't realize that Bob can convert the normal maps from blue to orange. That is good to know. Then you have the idea already in place. I can make a video showing it without any sort of mod to do it with. Give me a bit to work on one.

I mean they use the same skeleton/animations as human males. Basically hu1 is your human male skeletons such as Karl Franz and the empire, Bretonnia, etc. hu1b was all of the female skeletons/animations prior to wh3. They were the elf women and the bretonnia women. Repanse was the first woman model that used hu1 but all of the kislev women also use hu1. So basically if an animation works on any human male, it will work on kislev women without having to do any work to fit models to new skeletons. Just change the animation in Land_units and voila!

On the right side where you see the model part names you also can see you work in LOD 0. There are 0 1 2 3. You normally work in just the best LOD when making mods and then generate the others but if you want to make changes to other LOD such as increase the distance they kick in at or whatever you just select those LODs and make the changes you want.

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 Thanks, but seems like lod distance change is not working for wh3, no way to fix that?

​@@TheR1ko I've used it and it works for me. Which LOD are you trying to change and what are you doing to change it?

@@blindleadingthecolorblind980 all lods distance change are not working. For example i typed 300 for lod 2, but it still works for 50 distance

@@TheR1ko I think it was maybe because of recent changes. Click on Editable Model (top right area of the UI called Scene where the Root skeleton and different parts of the model are selected) to bring up several settings. LOD is one of them. You can double click on the distance, quality, and reduction cells (they look like excel) and type in what you want. Then hit refresh and regenerate the LODs. That should set the changes.