How to use Dirty Down Rust correctly! Add cool rust effects to your Warhammer models and terrain!

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You guys know I'm a fan of weathering and adding something other than just paint on to my models. I think it adds a lot more to tell a story of what the model has been through and it's a great way to finish the model off. I've been meaning to try the Dirty Down effects range for a while and now then I was very kindly sent some by Eire Hobbies to try out...so here we are! While this video is not sponsored by Eire Hobbies I highly recommend checking them out if you're in Ireland-next day delivery is a godsend! I messed around with the rust and learned as I went, and decided to make a video on each of the range, Rust, Verdigris, and Moss! So stay tuned and learn how to add something special to your models, in a very quick and easy way-perfect for my channel!
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@SootyWebster Год назад

If you throw a patch or two of typhus corrosion underneath for some interesting texture prior to the rust you can get some amazing effects too.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Oh that’s a great idea, definitely want to try that! Thanks for that!

@sweatilaa5325 Год назад

it might be good to know that Dirty Down has a history of making products that weather and dirty down props and costumes, and such for the movie and theater industry. The rust, moss, and verdigris products are all just downsized pots of what they use when making props and such, it is not really designed the same way as many other products made specifically for the miniature painting hobby. So this is a product that you need to experiment a fair bit with to learn how it behaves and what effects you can achieve. That's the price you pay for using the same products they use in movies and in theaters :)

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Good to know thanks pal

@jmc7034 Год назад

I found adding a bit a water before painting it on (making sure it’s all warm) gives good results but never thought of taking some off afterwards. Loved the effect and will give it a go

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Ye need to remember the warm part next time.

@capidano6248 Год назад

Great video , excited to see how you use the moss!!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I’m also excited to see to see what I can do with the other two.

@chappy4756 Год назад

I really like this product; started using on all my Guard motor pool to a real nice result. The metal mixing ball is a nice touch, as you said it's thick goop. Doing a couple passes worked for me, and I also found when i did the second run with a bit of water loaded in my brush i liked all the variance and gradients that I got. Didn't use a hair dryer, my painting lights were hot enough. Final touches I did do a reductive rub over with a cotton tshirt when it was half dry, and then a light dry brush of steel/aluminum. It does take a while to finally dry, it was hours later when I put "snow" on the model, the rust leached through a bit.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Sounds ace pal.

@notreallydavid Год назад

Nailed it! Looks great - thanks for posting

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Appreciate it pal.

@notreallydavid Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies No problem. Send money.

@virusofnurgle6896 Год назад

I had been telling you for months this stuff is magic in a bottle, I use it so much

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yeah looking forward to trying the rest of the range now too

@paulbarnes8905 3 месяца назад

Thank you for this tutorial. Very useful for hiding mistakes I've made on my ork vehicles.

@MediocreHobbies 3 месяца назад

Great to hear pal.

@justinmacrae7430 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! I needed this video

@MediocreHobbies 11 месяцев назад

Glad you liked it!

@vendorlucid 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for this great and helpful video. I experienced just the same issues. 😀 Now what I was looking for was you dirty down moss video and couldn’t find it. That stuff is really hard to master so it would be awesome to see a vid on that. Thanks a bunch for all you do. :)

@MediocreHobbies 9 месяцев назад

I do indeed and need to show the other once and I have them.

@blackbart4646 Год назад

I am gonna paint my room with this paint after seeing this!!!!!! Rust for the Rust God!!!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

😂😂😂 please share photos if you do!

@RabtasticPaints Год назад

Would love some of this for my Nurgle army. Looking forward to the Moss video, that would be really good for scenery.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yeah I’m very curious to see how the moss works for basing too! And yes this stuff is perfect for nurgle!

@Leo-dn9un Год назад

Hi again Andy. I found if you water it down while wet after applying and re stipple it hard with a stiff brush you get a light rusty foam that dries like a lighter but corrosive rust. Amazingly good and stretches the bottle further !☺️👍🏻

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Oh that you so much that’s awesome. Need to try that now.

@Leo-dn9un Год назад

Love the Stiff drybrush off option though. Looks great. Wish we could post before and after pics here.

@gregmccormack5709 Год назад

That looks amazing in the end, the light bit of silver is a great touch. I wonder if you wanted very runny rust drips if pipetting a small amount to run down from bolts would look good. Great review/tutorial.👍🏻

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Oh that’s a brilliant idea, going to need to try that out on something! Thanks so much for that, and glad you enjoyed the video as well!

@arrond5745 Год назад

That does look really good

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Thanks so much!

@kealyj Год назад

This is spooky timing. I actually received an order from Eirehobbies yesterday with the Rust and Moss. My plan is to use it on my Boarding Actions scenery but think I’ll try it out on some spare parts first.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Oh wow that is weird timing! Boarding Actions scenery would be perfect for this stuff!! Kinda wish I had this before I painted mine! Yeah give it a go on spare stuff first, it does take a bit of practice plus you can figure out different levels of rust for different areas etc!

@PantsReduction Год назад

Oh I quite like the final result! Where I'm at it's a bit dear to apply neat then wash off; watering it down seems a good compromise.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Perhaps I’m really not sure what effect you would get your way.

@JohnCraig007 Год назад

Nice one! I have a bottle and will try out the water reductive technique!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes do try it! It’s definitely something to play around with and see how you like the results!

@mikewicked.x Год назад

Great video - I went through a similar journey as you with the Rust and Verdigris paints. I still haven't worked out how to get moss to pop as vibrantly as I've seen others achieve, so looking forwards to you testing it. I've also found that just spraying/splashing water onto models (particularly terrain) after a thin rust/Verdigris later, and allowing to pool and dry will give pretty great, random result too. Ambient humidity can also reactive the paint. Not to the degree it'll streak, but after a particularly humid day here, I noticed some of mine turned even more orange, which looked fine, but if you do reach a point you're happy with, sealing with varnish is probably a requirement. I'm sure there's some effect from the varnish itself too, but I've been lucky to not had a big effect.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Thanks pal. That’s really helpful.

@jeffvimes Год назад

Just out of curiosity which varnish do you tend to use?

@mikewicked.x Год назад

@@jeffvimes I've tried both airbrush applied (Vallejo) and rattlecan (I think it was Squirts brand, which might be Australia budget line) and have both been good, so far. I use Satin by default.

@MrLaurentius74 2 месяца назад

start watching you when the old world started and this i will using when starting my tomb kings army

@MediocreHobbies 2 месяца назад

Oh that would be a great place to use this stuff, glad you’re enjoying the videos!

@Griffonbait Год назад

Thank you!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Anytime pal.

@nixxy1983 Год назад

got this stuff ordered from amazon for my ork vehicles, cant wait till it arrives, just need to find more metallic paints to use than just leadbelcher

@MediocreHobbies 11 месяцев назад

Do you mean other colours or other paint ranges? Duncan Rhodes metallic paints are great!

@ianspeare539 Год назад

If you ever used enamel washes, the reduction technique is key. I always like to put some texture paint e.g. typhus corrosion onto the pieces first to get that crusted look

@ecMonify Год назад

did the same on a fallen AT-ST for some Star Wars Legion terrain. caked on up to three layers for that extra crust! :D

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Solid idea thanks

@nickkohlmann 8 дней назад

I wonder if you applied it wrong so you could walk people through the process and also show how you can use water to recover from overuse - either way you did find another cool way to use this :) Most people I've seen apply a bit on the most weathered but not all parts, let it dry a bit and then use water on a brush to spread it further, add more colour variety and cover the less corroded areas.

@dukeriluo Год назад

The big challenge is sealing it. I gave up trying as it just changed the look anytime I sealed it with a varnish.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Why do you need to seal it. It’s very dry to the touch. And quite durable unless it touches water.

@hrrrwau Год назад

I used enamels on top of the rust and it didn't change visibly. Enamel varnish could possibly work?

@shawnfairbanks9339 7 месяцев назад

Varnishing minis always makes them look terrible

@davidhardstaff8110 Год назад

Sponge stippling works well too

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Good to know. Thank you.

@corkey2077 Год назад

I've used this before and found a spray bottle with mist works really well especially with the verdigris

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Oh that’s good to know, will give that a go, thanks so much!

@LPP_YT Год назад

Great showcase of how to use this stuff well. Dirty Down Rust is a great tool, but its not a magic bullet, it still needs some work to get it looking 'right'.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Thanks so much! Yes it’s definitely not as simple as it seems but it’s also interesting to see different people’s views of what they want rust to look like so it’s a great product for getting very varied results!

@carthagemustbedestroyed 10 месяцев назад

Nice! I have had this product for awhile but got discouraged for the same reason on initial testing. I’ll try the drybrush technique with water myself soon.

@MediocreHobbies 10 месяцев назад

Let me know how it goes.

@carthagemustbedestroyed 10 месяцев назад

@@MediocreHobbies I tried it out - I used it on some undead models. It worked really well for the large areas of armor that were plate or flat , but on weapons it had mixed effects. I found that coming back to it after with some light drybrush highlights of an iron or steel made it better on the edges of weapons. Great results in the end. Thanks again for sharing !

@vwmac2509 5 месяцев назад

Sorry if this has been asked already. Do you varnish over the product? If so, what are you using for varnish? If you do not, how does the product hold up over time? I would be using for tabletop pieces so they would be getting a fair amount of handling.

@MediocreHobbies 5 месяцев назад

I don’t no. It mite reactivate so I wouldn’t risk it.

@fatmandoingstuff3786 Год назад

When using the paint mixer did you have a mixing ball on the jar? They work a lot better that way.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Of course it comes with a mixing ball inside it. This stuff is like nothing you have mixed before.

@mikestafford6900 Год назад

Love this! I tried it on a rhino, not sure I did it right. How long do you let the dirty down dry before removing the water?

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Not long at all. Only a few minutes.

@stevebuk100 Год назад

Another good report, can you clarify how to seal it so it won’t rub off please

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

When it dries it is actually really tough. It’s only when water is applied. So no sealing.

@alsmith5031 Год назад

Glad I am not alone in not getting the magic results on first use. I was getting totally disheartened seeing everyone else getting those stunning effects seemingly on first use all over RU-vid and not being able to find any evidence at all of anyone getting the same sludgy brown mess I was getting. In the end I found the closes I could get to the results I was seeing online was if I kept my brush fairly wet, far more than if I was using regular paint, got me useable but inconsistent results. But I have never been completely happy with this stuff.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

It’s for sure a skill that needs to be practiced. It’s not easy to use.

@Tesla_Paints 3 месяца назад

Very late to the party, but I've had good effects with this product on my Chaos Knights by stippling it on instead of brushing it on and without washing it if after.

@MediocreHobbies 2 месяца назад

Cheers pal. I shall give it a try.

@davidaddison4712 11 месяцев назад

So should i varnish before/after applying this stuff? I painted it directly onto my bloodcrushers (verdigris) and ive left it for 2 weeks, coming back to it, i tried putting a small touch of citadel virdigris and its washed the paint off completely. I use it quite a lot as opposed to fine detail. Still watching the vid incase you answer it, eventually aha

@MediocreHobbies 11 месяцев назад

Any sort of moisture will reactivate it so if you want to paint over a motel spray if may varnish is a good idea.

@cheetor_sho3box Год назад

Hiya, thanks for showing what doesn't work with this stuff, as well as what does. Did you find a way to seal the rust afterwards without ruining the effect? As good as a Death Guard force with this effect would look, it would wear off with handling because of the water solubility. Spray can varnish deadens the effect significantly too. Any thoughts on ways around that?

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I didn't bother sealing it! It's not anywhere where i would handle the terrain so i'm just leaving it for now and being careful with it!

@cheetor_sho3box Год назад

Fair enough @MediocreHobbies , thanks for getting back to me. If you come up with a plan for sealing a force of Blight Kings or Plague Marines that have had a generous amount of Dirty Down Rust applied, then I'm all ears :)

@craigstewart8069 Год назад

The biggest question I have after watching this video is why do you own a hair dryer???

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Exactly for this reason 😄 I refuse to believe you meant anything else by this comment 😂

@peterbuckby7319 3 месяца назад

Do you need the seal it after

@MediocreHobbies 3 месяца назад

Cheers pal.

@benn1181 Год назад

I keep trying everything in these guides but mine always just looks brown

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I think its the shaking thing. It really is a nightmare to get it all mixed up. Make sure your stirring it really well.

@jeepnwithdog Год назад

Thanks for the vid. I use similar however I struggle to think that 40K years on the future we have nor figured out an alloy that does nor rust

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

That is an excellent point! I doubt it’s a big priority though given the utter chaos going on everywhere 😂

@M50A1 6 месяцев назад

They probably have but its probably too expensive to waste on random defensive barriers, knowing how the Imperium is

@therealjonaswp602 3 месяца назад

Jesus chr... been looking for a REAL rust looking paint - one without having to use various brands and a LOT of different colors... I will definately be getting this one! Having some grates and chains in a dungeon that I need to "rust up" haha :D Oh also - #1000 like from me ;)

@MediocreHobbies 3 месяца назад

Make sure you check out the comments on the video too, some people added some more tips that might help you!

@docremington1589 Год назад

Others have said it here, but I’d like to confirm. Adding water to it and drying it with warm air both create great effects.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes still need to try more stuff with it and it’s great getting tips in the comments! I’m sure you’ll see me using it in future videos too!

@lordunborn Год назад

Peachy over at the Painting Phase hit it out of the park with this stuff. Go watch his video on the Gallowdark Terrain. Use water! Lots of water.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Will check it out, thanks so much!

@EpicTheVerb 10 месяцев назад

Now what about sealing it.

@MediocreHobbies 10 месяцев назад

No need ad far ad I can see once dry it’s touch safe.

@igorguerzoni7313 Год назад

Use a black Primer, and After use the rust, the effect Is very Rust.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Will give that a go as some point too, thanks for the tip!

@igorguerzoni7313 Год назад

Thank you.

@TheRotbringer Год назад

You need to mix water into it before you apply it, and you’ll save yourself tons of time.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I haven’t seen anybody mix water with it. I need to try This. What ratio are we talking.

@davesmith9844 Год назад

This works better when diluted with water

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Interesting. Need to try it.

@adamsinnott8367 Год назад

Looks really good, now I have to work out how I get it in the UK.

@Sleepysod Год назад

Ebay

@ecMonify Год назад

pretty sure the company is uk-based, is it not? :P

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Pretty sure you can get it from element games.

@zeroireland Год назад

@@ecMonify Ireland. No.

@markhickson9087 Год назад

As people have said, a number of online model shops sell it. I got a pack of rust, verdigris, and moss off eBay at a slightly better price.

@PoulEbbe 7 месяцев назад

2 min intro xD wow

@MediocreHobbies 7 месяцев назад

Every dam video. I love hearing myself talk.

@youtubevanced4900 Год назад

You have to use a black background to show off your paint job. That white background is blinding. I can barely see the piece.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I do agree, white is usually the standard, but black does look better!

@tonyking4631 Год назад

Good video but I don’t think it’s really worth it overall.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

That’s fair enough! Thanks for watching and commenting anyway, appreciate it!

@tonyking4631 Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies you seen the Steel legion are available to order shortly. Shall I buy all in anticipation of future videos ? 😂

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

@@tonyking4631 I do have a full steel legion army that requires paint so maybe lol

@tonyking4631 Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies ya know ya wanna lol. I got the email about special ordering them. Waying it up as the are expensive in relation to vehicles etc

@SharkBelk Год назад

first

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Hahaha cheers pal.

@markhickson9087 Год назад

Never seen it used like that. Great product but too expensive to use like that. Add water, put on where you want it, when dry add more water to get a brighter orange. There are lots and lots of people that have videos on how to use this stuff. It might have been better if you'd done a bit more research. Just saying😊

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I watched quite a lot of the other creators videos and learned that they all do it differently and get different results. I’m not sure if you actually watched the video as I go through the process of trying out different ways and found my way to be the most useful for me. And I guess we have different ideas on expensive. Just saying :-)

@markhickson9087 Год назад

@Mediocre Hobbies thanks for the reply. I said expensive because compared to, say, citadel paints (which I feel are expensive), dirty down rust is twice as expensive per ml in the uk and then there is the p&p on top because not many shops stock it. I did watch the whole video, and in general, I love your videos and painting style. However, with this video, I was less impressed. I was. It felt like your first attempt you hadn't read the instructions nor watched any videos of others. You appeared to just smear on a thick brown mess over everything and were surprised when it looked like you had thrown a bucket of gravy at the piece. I've been using it for a while, and while I liked your final piece, I feel you could have got there from the beginning AND then tried to perfect the approach. Maybe this video wasn't aimed at me? I use a mixture of approaches from about a year ago, Artis Opus and a few others (though I now can't find the video on watering it - could have been squidmar. Firstly I use a texture paint where I want the thickest rust, fine chalky dust in some brown paint, then hairdryer, then dirty down where I want the rust(crevices, under rivets, corners and streaks etc), finally stipple with DD rust where I want darker rust and reactivate with a damp brush where I want orange and lighter rust. I dry with a hairdryer again. Finally, a coat of matt varnish. It works for me and uses far less paint and goes where I put it mostly. There are other ideas like using clingfilm to give a random surface rust pattern, etc, that are good ideas. Keep up the great work👍.