How to Use the AR-61 Tenderizer in Helldivers 2 

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The Tenderizer absolutely shreds bots after the patch. It's now my main primary against bots, replacing the Liberator. Yes, the Liberator. That default assault rifle is actually a very competent primary weapon, even right up to level 9 difficulty, provided you pair it with the right support weapon (AMR, Autocannon). And you have to play to its strengths (it can clear an entire patrol of chaff troopers in one mag if your aim is on point).

I've been running the tenderizer recently on semi-auto, and it's actually been a dream with how good it is at recoil control, and good damage per shot!

Been really liking the adjudicator over the tenderizer with the new patch, 80 damage vs 95 isn't that big when one's got medium pen, same rounds per mag, recoil's nasty though but fine for up close fights with bots, nice handling too. Would be neat to see a vid on that one too. Medium pen ends up really nice vs bugs with all the bile spewers, hive guards, and brood commanders around.

It's because the stats are perfectly fits fighting bots more than bugs because it has the traits to take out smaller but more compact patrols of either front. Bots are more dangerous but less numerous with exposed weaknesses. This suits tenderizer because it has lower mag size which won't matter too much against lower enemies but the higher dmg and lower recoil is very much appreciated so long as you aim for the head or the torso of the small and medium enemies. They go down quick and you make the most out of your ammo so long as you don't miss.

I feel like if they gave it just 2 extra mags, or maybe increased the mag size to 35 or 40, it'd be about perfect. I love how it feels, I just don't like having to reload constantly and eating through mags like potato chips

The buffed tendie is my fav primary weapon for bugs. It makes QUICK work of brood commanders and everything below. You can even kill a stalker (quickly) and thats important when there are a pair of them bearing down on you. Using it vs the bots (devastators) is even better because of their weak spots EDIT: Just finished the video and I pretty much copy/pasted the assignment.

I think putting this gun on burst is better then full auto, in my own opinion. You have so much precision with this gun that using it as a precision rifle will compliment it much more then using it as a full auto assault rifle

Remember! Short, controlled bursts!

8 total mags is correct. 7 spare + 1 already in the gun. The total mag amount for all guns in the game is spare mags count + 1

“A soul (the pummeler) for a soul (the tenderizer)” -some weird guy with a cloak.

Thanks for the detailed deep dive! Can you do one for the recently damage buffed Eruptor too pls?

I really like it. The recoil of 10 is great. Reload is kinda long, though.

Think they should give it a 35-40 round mag OR a faster reload. Both would be awesome.

Hold on, the AR-61 has stagger? I USE IT ALL THE TIME NOW AND IT DOESN'T STAGGER. I really like this rifle tho, it's my new main rifle. For heavy armor I just use Autocannon. I really like having the flexibility of being a frontline fighter and ranged support role. It's accurate and has good zoom. I take it vs the bots too and it's very nice in my hands.

i feel like rework is strong word ngl

Its better than it was, but there's still no reason to use any AR over the Sickle. Even the adjudicator with its medium pen, it's nice on paper, but having to mag dump one single medium enemy to kill it is still atrocious. Every AR needs at least 10 more rounds per mag and 20-30 more damage to even be decent

Isn't it just a worse Adjudicator now? I'm not too upset because: Yes, it has zero recoil - but really I don't find that really helps me because I have been playing this whole time adjusting for recoil. *I think it may* do a little more damage pershot, but the Adjudicator penetrates medium, so at that it does full damage where the tenderizer cannot. Maybe for the bots its better, I've been been farming that sweet E-710.

Needs a 60 round mag to be viable in upper levels

Remember when it was green?

I want a Kalashnikov

0:46 ?

In conclusion Reload reload and reload

i believe hell divers has run its course. unless something changes i doubt ill play the game again which im not even sure what that "something" might be

Tried it. Felt very mid to me. Sickle and plasma are still META for the Bots. Incindiary breaker are still META for the Bugs ( even a must have nowadays with the chaff spam buff ). Can be fun when you go at a lower difficulty ( 3 to 5 ) from your usual 7+, but otherwise, kind of meh.

Like all ARs it needs a bigger mag to be worth considering. Next.

I still dislike your username tho…

Still useless

I just wish they hadn’t touched ammo capacity. The 5 rounds taken away from the mag and removal of extra mags makes an ammo pack a necessity but then again that’s most assault rifles at the moment.

It says 8 in patch, cos it counts the one already loaded in gun +7 in stash,

before the patch, I heard people actually enjoying it for the recoil control lmao

You’re wasting time and ammo by shooting the brood commanders more than you need to, once the head is destroyed move on to another enemy, they are dead they will just make one last charge and swipe before they fall over.

Its not the magazine size, yeah the ammo goes quick but where it really lacks is the RELOAD SPEED, the BR-14 Adjudicator reloads faster, if there is 1 final tweak to get this gun "on point" its that its reload speed needs to be as fast as the Liberator Penetrator, getting that reload time down would turn this gun into a A+ tier weapon against the bugs.

Fighting bugs with this thing on full auto makes me feel like one of Rico’s roughnecks. Dashing cover to cover and firing quick bursts at bots makes me feel like I’ve just dropped feet first into hell, a real walk in the woods. I love this gun, and I held out hope that they’d buff it after that botched initial release. I’m so thankful that it’s fun to use now.

1) Take it to the mission 2) Shoot it 3) Reload when clip empty 4) make a 10 minute video out of it

still lack of ammo .... SICKLE will always be the KING OF AR due to ammo economy

Short answer, it’s good

I think a good booster would be a reload speed boost

8 mags 7 reloads bro cant count lol 1:05

I still feel it’s not great. The assault rifles in general all stink in this game

I take assault rifles when I'm playing difficulty 6 or lower just having fun, otherwise you'd be far more helpful to your team with other guns

It is certainly better than it was but... like the rest of the rifles it still feels anemic overall and I wish it still got medium pen, I mean we already got 3 (7 if you include the Diligence, Sickle, Scythe and Scorcher) other "rifles" with light pen, did we really need another? As of now we've only got 2 medium pen (4 if you include the Diligence CS and Dominator) rifles would another one really have hurt all that much? As for the rifles in general I think a better way to get them on par with the other firearms, would be instead of buffing the overall damage they should just buff the durable damage quite a bit, I think it would make them feel like they have more of a punch per round compared to say the multiple tick per shot damage by volume of say the shotguns. Which would make sense given the rifles likely shoot a 5.56x45mm or 7.62x51mm equivalents respectively and those rounds are designed to penetrate rather significantly, compared to say buckshot which is likely what the shotguns are throwing out (minus the Slugger of course), I think that would be a good compromise for their use case when picking a loadout.

Personally I wish Tenderizer had increased rof on the burst setting, a "hyper burst", 3 rounds at 1000 rpm. Burst fire I find useless on low rpm guns. Yes, it looks like the Halo BR and I wish it just was a Halo BR

Damage break points (when bullet to kill goes down compared to other similar classed weapons) isn’t good. It’s geared to killing medium health pool enemies quicker, but, still takes too many shots for smaller enemies, totally over killing them at times. This makes it feel like crap overall when you switch back to - the liberator, or to the las-sickle. The issue is the spawn type and size and how enemies in the medium health pool tend to have lots of armour, whereas small health pool enemies come en-mass. If they just spammed warriors non stop, with a tiny few brood commanders, this weapon would be good. Unfortunately, the target priority are always hunters and their smaller variants first. The handling of this weapon is not good enough to reliably dispatch them quickly enough before flinching causes costly misses. Lacklustre pick vs bugs. Against bots - armour + the problem with AR - you aim at torso/legs to reach comparable ttk to diligence counter that goes for heads/body on smaller health targets. This weapon overkills or handles like crap relative to lighter calibre rifles. The breakpoints are bad. Switch back to the liberator and suddenly the game feels good again. Not different, just good. Balance isn’t always about tweaking numbers, but about balancing the kill time/spawn size/enemy mobility against the weapon as a whole. They would have to severely imbalance the spawn of enemies to favour the tenderiser before it feels any good (take out all the small health enemies) - but even then, heavier stagger weapons would feel even better

It eats ammo more than any other primary I feel like. Especially w the removal of THREE extra magazines, and 5 bullets. I just can’t use it bc of those reasons

They either need to give it higher pen or change which parts of bots have medium armor. You have 30 bullets, and it does shred the little guys and devastators. But there are also a lot of striders and berserkers in each drop. You can’t take the time to stand there lining up the perfect sniper shot.

The 8th mag is the one in the gun? You can have a full magazine and that number still say zero. It just means you're out of additional mags.

against bots, I dunno about the Tenderizer or even Liberator. It doesn't feel good seeing all our shots bounce off their armor.

The weapons overall in the game is kind of bad. Most people use the same weapon because most of them suck...

Informative channel, but the channel name could use some work. I feel some slight disgust when I see the channel name.

they need to buff the sound of the tenderizer , i cant shoot that weapon without bursting out laughing

It still sucks ass ngl, can't even clear a terminid crowd in a reasonable amount of bullets and time

MAG EMPTY

you dont even have to look at the stats if it said light armor penetrating and explosive dont use simple

can we get a video on the pummler

IT does have 8 mags, your forgetting the one that comes in the weapon. :)

1:04 one clip in the breach. 7 spare bullet holders in the back pocket.

seems to be the theme the pummeler seems like a worse version of the defender.

They should've give this gun fire damage modifier.

If you throw it in burst, it's just the Halo 3 BR.

8 TOTAL mags, 1 in the gun + 7 on standby.

I still don't like it. I prefer the adjudicator

Pair it with the Senator and you're a 1 person army

Adjudicator needs buff bad

1. Point at enenemenmeny 2. pull bang switch 3. watch fumny robot man fall down 4. reload a *LOT* And that my fellow helldivers is how you use the French Tickler I mean the Tenderizer.

It's a Liberator with ~+50% damage, -33% mag size, and -33% recoil. It's about the same total damage per mag; it just gets it out there faster. Reload speed is 10% slower. In the end, it's a straight upgrade to the Liberator.

Short answer. Yes

what the tenderizer needs more than anything right now is a reload speed buff and at least SOME of those mags back. the way it is now, it's only really good if you're running supply pack, HMG, and a decent sidearm like the bushwhacker to make up for the close range. basically a long range full auto marksman rifle, making full use of that 100M range limit on the scope to pop trooper heads, switching to medium range with it to headshot devastators, the HMG to handle anything heavier and the bushwhacker to handle anything that sneaks up on you while you're caught in that ATROCIOUSLY LONG reload animation for the mag size. If it had more mags and a faster reload it would be a decent all around option, to hold the opposite use case versus the liberator carbine. As it stands now it requires way too much planning around to be considered a proper weapon in its own right.

What a glow up. Its super fast And it hits like a super destroyer. Id say this is the goden standard for ARs from now on

I'm doing my part!

Sickle has been my primary for both fronts. I guess the tenderizer could be an alternative for high heat planets

I just switch to single shot mode, by nothing wasting ammo the 30rnd magazine is plenty enough. Anything that requires more than 3 bullets to kill I deal with a medium pen weapon or a flame thrower.

Sickle nothing else needed

Id still take the ajudicator over this... now it has even more ammo than this +medium armor pen and if u use it on semi auto it can and will 2 shot devastators in the head also from even futher away...

Pretty accurate but I do have to mention that you have to use other equipment and strategems get the job done properly with any main weapon you run.

If it was Medium AP I'd use it from time to time but as it stands all of the Battle Rifle primaries just collect dust.

It's really good, soo good they might nerf it in the next patch/update

Honestly the gun is even better now since they fixed the ergonomics passive.

The tenderizer is my favorite assault rifle in HD2. Very reliable!

I may be the odd one out but i feel like they shouldve made most of the assault rifles medium penetrating on top of the current changes, or also be able to penetrate through an enemy and have more damage across the board. The way assault rifles feel are more akin to how SMGs are. But they're also in need of TLC, I feel like they fit more of the role for class of weapon that is to be clearing light enemies.

Bruh 1.5x playback speed saved this video

No medium pen means its irrelevant unfortunately, for me.

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I don't get the smaller ammo size. When you play on higher difficulty. This gun gets overwhelmed by numbers of enemy's. It should be 30 rounds times 8, is just 240 rounds. Why not give us 5 times 50 rounds? Or even 6 times 40. Its should kill hordes of low armored enemies. Because of the ligth armor pen.

0 reason to use it over the sickle

Actually, actually.

Tenderizer now tenderizes

It is better now. I would still rather take the pummeler. The mag is still laughably too low against bugs.

It's still shit. OH NO did I say that? As soon as you pick an AR you are already picking something with limited ammo and with shi* penetration... and something that constantly need reloading. When you COULD use something like Blitzer that demolish light-medium targets without reloading. Or plazma punisher that do heavy AOE against light and medium. All AR's need medium pen. If not, a massive mag. And AR bullets NEEEEED to 1-2 shot every light-medium targets!!! (!) One mag need to take down a small wave of enemies. If you cannot operate an AR in single target and have it being effective, it's GARBAGE! And completely wrong. They designed the AR's in this game as SMG's. They feel like them. perform like them. It's wrong for all reasons. One bullet should wreck any small enemies. Given you fire it accurately, if the devs have any idea what they are doing, at all, they allow AR's to be beasts. This is a "futuristic" setting, we have such BEAST primaries, AR's have no place in this world. They equip us with tooth picks against tanks. Basically. They need fitting weapons for the task at hand. And if AR's are gonna be "realistic" but they really really are not, they are forever gonna be shi* and we can try and tell us they are OK, but we all know there are better options anyways.

Ok, ARs in HD, by themselves, arent THAT bad. The issue for me is this: the sickle has 90 rounds (est.) that replenish, no recoil, & a clean scope, & same damage as the AR family's base line. Weapons like the orange breaker are miles and miles ahead of light pen weapons against bugs. Bots, maybe the abjucator, but again, there are weapons that are just so far beyond the ARs. There just isnt a reason to take an AR over clearly better options. Theres no utility. Theres no class of weapon they beat on TTK. Theres no damage. Theres no pen. Theres limited bullets. All the things the ARs can kill, i can kill groups of with different weapons with a 1/4 of the ammo. We need a new mechanic, like internal damage/internal bleeding. Something blasts of an AR can inflict that adds some utility. Maybe have it reduce movement speed, or accuracy, or a dmg tick, something to separate the ARs and give them a unique purpose. They are all lacking. Love the game. Play it as often as i can. I highly dislike the ARs

As an AR, it's good enough. However, the best weapon for bug is still automatic shotgun (for quickly take down swarms of small enemies). And the best weapon for bots is still explosive weapons (for anti-medium armor and weakpoints). AR is just at an awkward position as a whole weapon class.

This gun should have gotten medium pen.