It's really funny how Arch gets thrown as the complicated distro, when it reality it still comes down to reading a manual and typing in the equivalent of a few commands. Anyone who's used command blocks in Minecraft or the console in TF2 or Gmod can figure out Arch.
@@kimgkomg no it isn't. But that speaks to the problem of tech literacy. It isn't that people can't, it's often that people are too lazy or busy to try and hapily encouraged to remain in such a status quo.
@@arandomguy4478 arch focuses on bleeding edge instead of stability. If a distro based on arch tries to hold packages for sometime for more stability, the AUR packages have more chances to break. The bleeding edge nature of arch makes the AUR possible.
btw kenny, some advice. Simply type 'yay librewolf' without the -S flag. It does the same. Press Enter on all yay prompt, instead of typing Y. It work. Also running 'yay' without any flag, runs 'pacman -Syu' + aur updates.
the y/n prompts actually capitalize the letter that is going to be the default use if no input is provided. The only problem with that is in its existence by default. If every prompt used the same default, be it Y or N, it would be useful, but since that is not the case, looking for the capital letter takes the same amount of time as typing the letter you want to use anyway, which makes the feature obsolete imo.
Its gonna be interesting to see how many people get interested in Arch and or Linux in general once the Steam Deck launches, Valve confirmed it comes with an immutable file system which can be removed with a few commands. These vids will definitely come in handy for the newbies and your vids have definitely helped me use to use Arch properly
probably still mutable by system updates, also probably a lot of people trying to tinker with it are gonna mess up the system, because they're used to stuff like Garbage Bin style deletion
I recommend creating a "aur" folder instead of "git" in case you clone some other repositories besides AUR packages. Also you could make a video about making own AUR packages if you know anything which still needs packaging. It's much easier than anything I have encountered on different distros because it is essentially using bash. Also what's important to add is that anyone can create AUR packages. So people should be careful what to install from there because it has contained viruses in the past. It's likely package maintainers will get banned from the AUR for uploading a virus rather quickly but it depends on how popular the package is and if users are checking the PKGBUILD script. So yeah, I really like the AUR but it's still important to understand it first before using it. Definitely a good topic for videos. ^^
imho it's not worth making an AUR package if you're not gonna maintain it...which there's ALREADY quite a few that aren't quite kept up to date, not to mention that I think this would increase the duplicate packages, like, if there's package-git package-mypatch package-flumpus package-opensesame-git, for example, you wouldn't even know what is the actual difference between them, they'd be someone's forks, but often they seem quite unneccessary
@@jan_harald Unmaintained packages can easily be reported and you can also request to maintain them. I also rarely encounter actual duplicates because I think those would get reported quite fast. There are in fact differences between -git or -bin packages. So it makes sense to have those in separate to choose from. Sometimes even forks or patches are a reason to create a different package because there are important changes which can be required in other software using it as dependency.
Thanks brah. I've been using Arch as my daily driver despite having just moved into university (who doesn't like a challenge lol). Its been tough at times (due to professors expecting people to use mainstream systems), but I've been making it work regardless. Thanks for the explanations and demonstrations, they have definitely helped in my understanding!
One little tidbit at the end is that I believe if you just run yay without any flags, it defaults to running yay -Syu, so if you want to do a full system upgrade, you can just drop the -Syu part and just type "yay".
honestly the AUR is one of the things i like the most about using linux, being able to install anything even remotely known the same way you can install system packages (if you use a wrapper helper like yay) is just really nice, and it's one of the reasons why i recommend endeavour (pretty much just arch but a bit more bloated and with a GUI installer) to beginners, not mint or anything debian based, honestly even vanilla arch would be better for beginners than something debian based considering how much of a pain it is to get software on debian and how outdated it is, the only harder than average thing about arch is the installation process, and it's still not that hard
@@alexdelarge9425 When did i say i do? It's simply a night and day difference between being able to use a package manager and all its features vs having to unpack a tarball or .deb that doesn't update with the rest of the system, neither is hard, but one is way more convenient
I can definitely see how it would be time consuming if installing by only reading the wiki and choosing from programs you know nothing about, but now there are tons of tutorials that walk you through it and even some install helpers exist.
Best part about aur is how easy it is to make an aur package. Community participation is top notch with aur. Bugs take almost no time to get fixed. Also many times I was able to successfully compile package of different architecture. Thats the advantage of compiling.
I use arch since a few months, tho it’s alway great to see a video like this one. Great job! 👌 Also, to fully update your system, you can just write "yay", no need to write "yay -syu". 😅
I've gone to the tiling window manager rabbit role recently and I think I'm finally ready to do the change and go for a full minimal distro like arch. This video will come handy, thank you as always Linux Chad.
You saved my life! I´m on Garuda linux for a few weeks now. It´s my first arch based disro and I really like it, especially for gaming!! This was my last problem to solve... Octopi and pamac alwas hang up when I try to install an AUR package. But after following your instructions it just works! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS TUTORIAL!!! From now on I´ll try to love the terminal even more 🙂 I will use yay from now on to install AUR packages and clean the cache manually from time to time. Keep making such useful tutorials!
I'm rarely writing comments and I don't know if you noticed but as I already wrote one for some of your previous videos - we (Arch and generally Linux users) really appreciate this kind of short video guides. For example, this video particularly, helped me understanding YAY package manager. If I'm someone who would be asked for something - I would recommend you for a professor. We have here one proverb - "Knowledge is not knowing something but knowing how to give / pass your knowledge to someone".
Interesting to see the git+base-devel vs yay. The only package I've ever made was yay, so I didn't know how much of what I did was git+base-devel or the yay package. Nice to see.
After an hour of trying to figure out how the fuck do I use all that git clone stuff with no avail came back to this tutorial and was done in 5 minutes. I rarely leave thank you's but literally thank you so much for speaking noob-friendly language and making tutorials I actually can understand.
the difference between just the package name, or adding -bin and -git, is package-bin is precompiled, you don't have to wait to compile the package package-git is up to the latest commit of the git repository, not the latest stable release or whatever package by itself is the latest stable release
As an arch and a Linux noob, yay has been super useful. Got me out of the habit of going to a software’s website and looking at their install instructions.
I understand like 5% of things from this channel and I wish I knew how to learn more about these things because I want to be more tech literate, a lot of holes in my knowledge
I was just a regular PC user until I switched to Linux. It would have never occurred to me a few year ago that "would you rather save disk space or save time" would be a "pondeous question" in my life, but here we are now...
I got the PGP error message so I paused the video and spent 10 minutes solving the issue. Then I unpaused the video and not 1 second later you explain what to do when the error happens. Unfortunate pause on my part lol
This is a tutorial, thank you! Ah, if I had had these explanations a few years ago when I landed in the Arch world ... That said, yay is awesome and he's the one who saved my life. And hop, I subscribed. 🙂 -- Ça, c'est du tuto, merci ! Ah, si j'avais eu ces explications il y a quelques années quand j'ai débarqué dans le mond Arch... Ceci dit, yay est génial et c'est lui qui m'avait sauvé la vie.😎 Et hop, je me suis abonné. 🙂
I'm fairly new to Arch-based distros (Garuda, at the moment) and this was helpful. I'd also be interested in a comparison, with pros and cons, between the AUR and the Chaotic AUR.
Which version of Garuda are you running? Dragonized? I like it okay, but it’s bloated by arch standards. Every Pacman -Syu is always a lot of packages. I removed a lot of software so it’s not too bad now. But it still takes a long time to boot compared to my arch install. But you get a lot of eye candy for your waiting.
@@tylerdean980 Yeah, the Dragonized edition. I agree with you that it has more stuff than a minimal Arch install, but I want a lot of that stuff -- both the functional and the eye candy. And what I don't want, I can remove, as you said. What I don't know yet, though, is whether I want to use the Chaotic AUR that it uses by default or if I want to use the regular AUR instead.
@@babitasaha6655 I would, but I really like the gaming stuff that it comes with out of the box, like having the GE version of proton, and retroarch set up out of the box. Honestly they set up so much for you that it would be more time consuming to do all that yourself than it would be just to uninstall the things that you don't need. But there are some things that I still can't remove. Like for example, they ship with 2 terminal emulators, I don't really need alacritty, but the system uses it to run the commands that the graphical programs do.
trizen > yay, imho mainly because trizen 1) sorts packages with AUR ones at the bottom, and 2) it actually shows when the package was last updated, if it's out of date or unmaintained, and also lets you easily edit the MAKEPKG and stuff in the middle, if you want to (I alias it to not do that, but it's very useful for some packages that don't work properly as-is, e.g. the version got updated, but the shasum didn't)
Hey, what are your thoughts on the arch GUI install script. I’ve installed arch through the command line a few times but idk if I want to do it on my new computer if the GUI script is legitimate. Thoughts?
You can, but then you are installing what another person deems fit for a running system, not what you do. Defeats the whole purpose, and Arch's "KISS" philosophy. When I first starting using Arch, I used to feel the urge to use install scripts, etc. I have in fact used them in the past but ended up with a lot of bloat and who knows what else installed on my machine that I probably didn't need. Installer scripts are typically created as a universal "catch-all" for all PC's. But do yourself a favor, use that time to learn to install and build up your own system. It really is not hard at all, it just seems daunting at first (just like anything new, right?). Once you learn, you can literally have a running Arch Linux system in less than 15 minutes, just use the Arch install guide and take your time the first few tries. Once you get that right, then move on to installing your choice of desktop environment (XFCE, Cinnamon, OpenBox, etc). Even easier, just learn the process in a Virtual Machine and then when you're solid and ready to go, install on your real PC. The great part here, is by taking the time yourself, not only do you learn a lot about Linux in the process -- but you can easily make your own install script in the end and it's truly a great feeling to completely enjoy your lightning fast system that you built up. You will thank yourself in the end. ;)
Please ignore the guy above. The Arch install script literally just automates the base Arch install and nothing else, which is exactly the same on every PC. The script is included by default in the Arch iso now, just run archinstall to use it
The chances of mental outlaw reading the fresh comment are probably higher, so I' ll write it here. Just thank you man. You're doing a great job and it generally makes me feel better. greetings from russia btw
I have a tip for you At 0:22 ; you said it's little bit similar to overlay "Gentoo" Do you really think if someone move from Gentoo to arch he needs a video to understand AUR?
Thanks, where was this video when I learned it the hard way yesterday lol. You should do a quick vid on verifying checksums or mention it if you ever revisit this again.
I saw a comment about the thumbnail. I don't know if this violates the license or not but Luke Smith's video description states: License Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)
Do you think you could make a video that would teach us to create packages for the AUR? I'd like to make the AUR repo better for aarch64 software availability but I don't really understand how packages are made for it...
Are you perhaps interested to make a video about the linus tech tips challenge with linux? I think it would be interesting to have your opinion on the matter
@Mental Outlaw hey, I've been watching your channel for quite a while now and really love the content you serve us with. You've also made me fall with linux and it's most talked about distros, you don't bring up the gaming topic though, so I would like your opinion on it.
MO, do you know of any Android apps for torrenting or mining Monero? Completely unrelated to the video, but you would be one of the people I would trust to give me accurate, safe information on this. Thanks.
Paru is written in Rust rather than Go and has some different, slightly more secure defaults, so overall it's safer to use, faster and more stable. They have about the same CLI, so actual user differences are nearly negligible.
@@comicsans1689 Rust came to being about the same time as go, and is the most loved language, AND is currently huge (has it's own foundation). The chance of being unsupported is around 0%. Although is you are talking about support, yay is barely supported as well. It's a tiny program, it doesn't require much support.
maybe using makepkg with "-si" flag is way more convenient correct me if im wrong or if there's something more to add : ) edit : wait nvm i should watch it entirely first
Is there a way to costomise a fresh arch install into archcraft like environment complete with openbox context menu (which auto updates all files) with just one command? And is there a similar method for ubuntu based system to make it like arch craft with one command? Thanks!
It's not recommended to use Yay anymore as your AUR helper. Use Paru instead (exact same install process as shown here) or don't use an AUR helper at all, but organize your packages yourself. Using a helper is 1000x easier though and they're not large programs
Why you don't use *paru*, the _yay_ replacement by the original _yay_ author? Has this a specific reason or don't you like paru? To my knowledge, yay is deprecated and should not be used anymore but I could be wrong with that.
"yay is deprecated" No it is not, you're wrong kid go back to your mom's basement. Moreover paru is writen of all things in that pile of junk that is rust.
