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Using the new external tap tempo feature on the TC Electronic Flashback 2 isn't as straight forward as it seems.
I figured out how to make it work and thought I would share this!

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@ludophono
@ludophono Год назад
Thank you for taking the time to explain and demonstrate this. After seeing your diagram of the connections, I grabbed an existing Y-shaped TRS stereo > dual TS mono cable and used one side of it as a temporary fix. Would have been guessing for a lot longer without your help.
@ThiagoRochaA1
@ThiagoRochaA1 6 лет назад
I was looking forward this. TC says it's compatible with MXR tap but they should be more clear on this. Thanks bro.
@hyperliteBo
@hyperliteBo 6 лет назад
Thiago Rocha no problem! That's exactly why I made this video :)
@joelbizzle4174
@joelbizzle4174 6 лет назад
The mxr tap does work. Just got to adjust the dip switches inside 👍
@nazmoking3171
@nazmoking3171 6 лет назад
@@joelbizzle4174 Good info. Where do you find the info how to adjust the dip switch settings in the MXR?
@briantost7125
@briantost7125 5 лет назад
Ten minutes with a soldering iron and cutters and I have a fully functional tap tempo with parts I already had. Thanks! This video is such an immense help.
@jonhiggs7698
@jonhiggs7698 6 лет назад
Thanks for this. Used a patch cable, substituted a stereo plug at on end soldered to your specs , worked a treat with an old latching pedal.
@stevefranklin7125
@stevefranklin7125 3 года назад
Many thanks!!! I was also very puzzled by the unclear instructions by TC Electronic, so this is just what I was looking for - nice clear instructions!
@filipzo
@filipzo 5 лет назад
Man, the previous flashback HAS the "strum" tempo. It IS actually a tap tempo, but it doesn't use an external switch! You have to hold the button and thge led starts blinking, then you strum your tempo with your instrument and its done! It is super useful and really effective... have a nice day ;-)
@rgudin0424
@rgudin0424 5 лет назад
Yeah, while that may be true, it may not be efficient enough or fast enough for us guys that oka6y one don't after another almost immediately.
@davehein1418
@davehein1418 6 лет назад
If you use the MXR M199 Tap Tempo, then you can use TRS-TRS. You just have to set some dip switches inside the M199 to map the signals. DIP setting with 1 & 3 down, 2 up.
@goodnightmediaintl
@goodnightmediaintl 4 года назад
Big thanks to you, now I know which tap to grab! Just grabbed this delay as an end-all be-all for fiddling with and wanted the convenience of a tap without losing that mash switch!!
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад
@@goodnightmediaintl Same. I got a Disaster Area TNT and a one-off custom triple-tap with the Floyd "Pulse" logo on it :) Both work. I had my guy make one output compatible with the FB2. DIP switches, my man.
@RobertDuchemin
@RobertDuchemin 5 лет назад
Thank you very much! It worked for me with my Ernie Ball Tap tempo. Your explanations are cristal clear. I've learned a lot!
@les.sketches
@les.sketches 5 лет назад
Hi, what kind of cable did you use? Did mono to mono (i.e. a normal jack cable) work for you?
@gkathmandu
@gkathmandu 4 года назад
hello i have earnieball tap tempo too, is it same as in boss tap tempo?
@bandbaaja
@bandbaaja 6 лет назад
I did this - it works perfectly - thanks a ton BOSS :) It's amazing how this is not officially documented at all - Yes a TS to TS (half inserted inside the Flashback such that the tip is at the ring position) also works fine but that's prone to errors as mentioned by GuitarGAS (errors like sometime if the foot touches the cable it can give out a noise, if the cable is loosely put in, it may change the tempo if shaken) so this Solution is the BEST - Thanks Again GuitarGAS :)
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
Padmanabhan N. S. Absolutely welcome!!
@andytongdee921
@andytongdee921 3 года назад
Vids like this save us a lot of time and frustration. Thanks!
@PhillipAlcock
@PhillipAlcock 4 года назад
Thanks for this. Had a short patch lead and a spare stereo jack so made up required lead. Bought a cheap tap pedal from Thomann and it now works to tap the tempo! Can’t yet get the loop function to work though...
@meone6929
@meone6929 3 года назад
@tcelectronics should pay you for supplying the info they should have put in the manual! thanks
@akxeman
@akxeman 8 месяцев назад
Very helpful, thanks! Why a fine company like TCE the using the tap tempo on the Flashback as complex as possible is beyond my reason. Including a on-board tap temp in a small box cant be that difficult - Nux figured out how to do it for $50.
@peterbrusch1493
@peterbrusch1493 5 лет назад
In other words: If You are not able, to solder a cable, You'll never be able to use the tap-function. Great work, tc electronic. This is not explained in the manual. Excellent video, thank You for that :-)
@noelgranados8344
@noelgranados8344 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for this information! I just bought this pedal last night and in so glad theres a tap tempo i can download onto it
@bunny-detox
@bunny-detox 5 лет назад
Thanks a lot for this video, it works perfectly! I've done it with the Ernie Ball tap tempo... Great!
@cyrildia
@cyrildia 4 года назад
Yay, thanks! Grabbing my soldering iron right away!
@countstoneula
@countstoneula 6 лет назад
Thanks so much! Just got this V2 for Christmas and was wondering what was up with it. Kind of a silly way for TC to do it, but at least you figured it out and we have tap tempo. I had the V1 before and sold it because I couldn’t use it live without a true tap tempo.
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
No problem! Yes the external tap tempo really is a big plus vs version 1, it could be a little user friendly tough :p
@countstoneula
@countstoneula 6 лет назад
GuitarGAS I did a little reading yesterday and apparently the MXR Tap Tempo switch has an internal dip switch allowing you to use the ring and the sleeve for the contacts instead of the tip and sleeve, this allows you to use a standard TRS cable. I had an old DIY tap tempo lying around, it already had a stereo jack installed, so I rewired it to use the ring and sleeve and was good to go with a TRS cable. Thanks again for this video. :)
@nielsott
@nielsott 4 года назад
Thanks for this essential hint with the TRS adapter. I even had one floating around since I had needed it some time ago for my Kawai MP6 stage piano (which also requires for the second foot switch for the tip contact to be left open, if you want to go for your BOSS switch and not buy the expensive original double pedal). I use the Flashback II together with a self-made switch that serves as an analog tap button and a MIDI Clock Foot Switch... (Arduino project). Unfortunately the Flashback II will not stick to the tap tempo when switching presets. Nevertheless, I really like the sound of the Flashback II and also I appreciate the fact that it does not introduce any audible noises.
@regmonmusic
@regmonmusic 6 лет назад
I've been going nuts trying to figure this out! Thank you so much!!
@mastereact
@mastereact Год назад
wow ! That function is awesome !
@tlb2732
@tlb2732 Год назад
You might try only plugging in the stereo TRS plug till you hear the first click instead of all the way in where you would hear two clicks. This may engage the parts of the male quarter inch TRS plug that need to be engaged to make tap tempo work. If so, you've saved yourself a lot of soldering and custom work.
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 Год назад
But also made yourself a very dodgy connection. I rather not in a live setup.
@vadymmedvediuk2146
@vadymmedvediuk2146 Год назад
Hi! Help pls, have a few questions. In looper mode external button works like a stop, and in delay mode it works like a tap tempo, do I understand correctly? Is it possible to use for example a looper first, record a layer, then switch to delay mode, and play with a delay on top of the layer? What kinda footswitsh i need to buy SPDT switch, or some else?
@luisangelmedia4459
@luisangelmedia4459 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this. I ordered a “Monoprice 109439” patch cable from Amazon because it was cheaper to get a TRS patch cable than 1 right angle plug. I used my own Mogami 2524 cable and a pancake mono plug like my other pedals.
@pcanarsky
@pcanarsky 2 года назад
dude, thank you so much for that explanation!
@god1stguitar2nd
@god1stguitar2nd 5 лет назад
The best instructional video I seen in awhile. You’re awesome! I’ve been a guitarist and multi-disciplined engineer for over 30 years. It’s refreshing to see young people who know what they’re doing. Just bought the TC Electronic Flashback 2 delay and was, excuse me, really pissed at the idiots who wrote instruction manuals. The most important part of using a tap tempo delay, and they short change the instructions. Forgive the wining. Keep up the excellent work and thanks!
@paulyang300
@paulyang300 4 года назад
Thank you so much you help me a lot! I also have this pedal but I just put in my effect loops, No I can use my boss pedal to control it! Can it works with the reverb pedal?
@vipingaur6332
@vipingaur6332 2 года назад
Strymon DIG works only with TRS to TRS Cable, Will this cable work with DIG, if I use the BOSS 5FU tap tempo pedal ?
@funkybasstrix
@funkybasstrix 5 лет назад
Thank you brother, that answers my question. Now I will consider buying the latest version
@MrOkon79
@MrOkon79 28 дней назад
Thanks, you just solved my problem:)
@luisangelmedia4459
@luisangelmedia4459 3 года назад
So I made the cable and it works, but I was wondering what polarity you have the switch set to, normally opened or closed? I ask because I modded a Diamond tremolo with external tap that I tie my Boss dd-7 into and it works great, but the TonePrint app keeps giving me different tap values, I know we can’t tap exactly the same time, but it jumps from 300ms to 400ms and everything in between. On my Helix and tap metronome and I’m not this “bad” at tapping in time.
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 3 года назад
It's normally open :)
@luisangelmedia4459
@luisangelmedia4459 3 года назад
@@guitargas1894 guess it’s time to add a polarity switch on that tremolo as well 😂 I don’t feel like swapping the leads on the jack because I may not even keep the FB2
@danielfoligearreviews
@danielfoligearreviews Год назад
Lo que buscaba! Gracias genio! Like! : )
@somethingelsedoesmatter
@somethingelsedoesmatter Год назад
Based on this, I wonder if you could add a second footswitch to the case and connect it to the ring and sleeve pins directly, to have a built-in tap tempo switch (without losing the Mash functionality)?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 Год назад
Probably, I see no reason why that wouldn't work!
@redmcmannus
@redmcmannus 2 года назад
Thanks so much, really helped.
@danielmiller2886
@danielmiller2886 Год назад
Does the polarity switch on the Boss pedal not make a difference?
@CanalUHF
@CanalUHF 5 лет назад
You save my day (and a few bucks). No I can re-use my FS5.
@crottedepingouin
@crottedepingouin 4 года назад
Followed the instructions, works Fine. Perfect, thanks
@pierre1084
@pierre1084 6 лет назад
Excellent video, but just tell me what cable I gotta buy, thanks ;)
@CanalUHF
@CanalUHF 5 лет назад
As two connections are actually needed (tip A - ring B & sleeve A - sleeve B), any standard mono cable (guitar or patch cable) is ok.
@timothy2204
@timothy2204 3 года назад
@@CanalUHF but he just made a whole video about why that doesnt work
@surygarcia6823
@surygarcia6823 3 года назад
The comment is old, but if someone hasn't noticed yet, the cable you need to but is a stereo cable
@marcelohorsth
@marcelohorsth 3 года назад
Thanks!!! Precious info!!
@lucasbelloni
@lucasbelloni 4 года назад
Thanks man, that was really helpful!
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 4 года назад
No problem :)
@ericbedard3597
@ericbedard3597 5 лет назад
thanks, I am debating on buying flashback because of this exact reason, this make's it easy fix without spending more.still think strum tempo with MASH switch is the way to go for TC (it seems like a feature on the original flashback)Since I dont have a stereo rig, I can live with this method, Thank youthey sell foot switches for this @80-100$
@TomWillemsGuitars
@TomWillemsGuitars 4 года назад
Question, would it be possible to still use a stereo input? Because the tip is still unused, could it work that tip-sleeve is an input signal, and ring-sleeve is the tap function? You would have to solder custom cables for that of course.
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 4 года назад
From the manual: " Note that external tap tempo must be enabled in the editor software, and this causes both output jacks to operate in mono."
@redrum22
@redrum22 Год назад
So this means you could have both the signal and the tap tempo in one cable? You just use the tip of the stereo cable for the signal and the ring for tap tempo
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 Год назад
Not sure, let me know if u try it!
@PaoloC.
@PaoloC. 4 года назад
someone says that it works even with a normal cable (mono-mono), you just need to pull out a bit the jack from the pedal side.
@Norman0507
@Norman0507 4 года назад
just tried it out, thinking now way, but hey... IT REALLY DOES WORK!
@surygarcia6823
@surygarcia6823 3 года назад
4:40 here is the explanation, your are connecting 2 to 1 and 3 to 2, but when you pull out the cable you are connecting 2 to 2 and 3 to 3, that's why you can do that "strange" trick, however, maybe it can produce some noise around
@afi6061
@afi6061 5 лет назад
Any idea what sort of voltage is required to send the tap signal?
@Matt-hw2be
@Matt-hw2be 5 лет назад
ant f none
@patrickstefurak3124
@patrickstefurak3124 6 лет назад
Excellent video. Thank you for that.
@benjacordoba
@benjacordoba 6 лет назад
Thank you very much! Just what I needed
@fooltightslivemusic6004
@fooltightslivemusic6004 7 месяцев назад
I do the same thing on the external home Made Switch to the mini beat buddy 2 and it Works
@fuentes_
@fuentes_ 6 лет назад
Great Job, fantastic explanation. Thanks so much!!
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
My pleasure :)
@Matt-hw2be
@Matt-hw2be 5 лет назад
you can buy the EBS ICY-30 it also works
@zeesee4298
@zeesee4298 5 лет назад
I have the mrp tap tempo switch. Could I use a y cable to maintain stereo input and use the tap tempo at the same time?
@boengelen3714
@boengelen3714 5 лет назад
No, if you wanna use the external tap tempo, you lose all stereo possibilities.
@shalabazertheboltstruck8645
@shalabazertheboltstruck8645 3 года назад
Maaaaaan KILLLERR thanks sooo much
@ChiefNugget6233
@ChiefNugget6233 6 лет назад
You could also use a TS-TS cable and plug it in until only part way, so the tip contacts the ring terminal in the Flashback jack, no?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
Maybe, but that would be quite cumbersome at best imo :)
@ChiefNugget6233
@ChiefNugget6233 6 лет назад
GuitarGAS I agree not a great long term solution, but good to point out for those looking for a quick impromptu fix. Thanks for the info that should have been in the owners manual!
@famusel
@famusel 5 лет назад
great tip! this helped a lot thanks!
@jcex
@jcex 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot for this video ! I asked TC and appart from recommendeding the MXR tap tempo pedal, they don't provide any other solution. Do you think it will work with the BOSS ES-8 (tap tempo signal from EXT CTR output) ? Thanks !
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
Jean-Christophe Lhotellier yes that should work...
@floridaman7079
@floridaman7079 5 лет назад
Its because of boss's version of tap tempo, which is normally closed loop tap, instead of everyone else's normally open tap
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 5 лет назад
Nope, not true
@guitarelaxed
@guitarelaxed 6 лет назад
Does the tapping function detect short tap intervals, like 120ms for slapback? I had a TC Nova repeater and it had problems to detect tap intervals shorter than 200ms.
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
guitarelaxed I had no problems with that whatsoever :)
@kabassa
@kabassa 4 года назад
They did this way because that input is hybrid, for audio (stereo) and tap tempo function
@julielocke-balish1707
@julielocke-balish1707 3 года назад
I don't know how to do this....can't I just buy a cable to do this?
@almandodouglas1563
@almandodouglas1563 6 лет назад
Can this type of cable be bought?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
Almando Douglas not that I'm aware of
@myfight22
@myfight22 6 лет назад
Thx so much. I got my Earnie Ball tap tempo switch to work.
@nazmoking3171
@nazmoking3171 6 лет назад
Did you have to assemble one of these custom cables with the Ernie Ball to make it work?
@gkathmandu
@gkathmandu 4 года назад
hello how do you make work with ernie ball tap tempo. I also do have flashback 2, how can i add ernie ball tap tempo?
@stephdup
@stephdup 4 года назад
There is a new firmware (1.2.00) on the website of TC electronic for tap tempo since october. You do not need to buy a tap tempo pedal anymore.
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 4 года назад
How... The pedal only has one switch so there is literally no way for a separate tap tempo be included in a firmware update....
@stephdup
@stephdup 4 года назад
@@guitargas1894 you can choose between mash or tap tempo with the TonePrint editor.
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 4 года назад
@@stephdup So then you can't switch the effect on and off anymore?? Anyway, the mash function is something that defines the pedal, you don't want to give up on that for tap tempo so it changes nothing imo.
@legolego204
@legolego204 5 лет назад
I've made the TRS to TS cable and I'm using a MXR External tap tempo with my FB2. The tap tempo feature works, but when I'm tapping the tempo in it distorts my output sound. The mash affects seems to be applied to the signal by the external foot switch, for some reason. Any idea why this might be occurring? If I go into the pedals settings and turn the mash affect off this doesn't occur. Cheers, great video by the way.
@boengelen3714
@boengelen3714 5 лет назад
No man I'm afraid I have no idea :/ better contact TC directly for that.
@GabiLotcu
@GabiLotcu 4 года назад
Can you still use both outputs to operate in stereo mode? For a ping pong L&R ?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 4 года назад
I'm not sure since I don't use stereo but I think it still outputs stereo (stereo IN is not possible anymore ofcourse)
@GabiLotcu
@GabiLotcu 4 года назад
@@guitargas1894 The stereo in is not necessary coz i'll use the hall of fame. I had the fisrt flashback but sold it because of the tap tempo. Thank's! 😉
@thiagosantos_gtr
@thiagosantos_gtr 3 года назад
does this work for tc eletronic alter ego v2 too?
@kabassa
@kabassa 4 года назад
helpful video, thanks!
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад
Disaster Area TNT or MXR M199 both work fine with the FB2.
@ivan70050
@ivan70050 6 лет назад
si yo utilizo el tap de mxr tendré problema con el cable?
@myfight22
@myfight22 6 лет назад
ivan balla no, el mxr tiene un "switch" interno para que funcione con un cable normal
@cabangbangq
@cabangbangq 4 года назад
Can you tap the tempo on the BOSS even when the TC is bypassed?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 4 года назад
YES !
@osanan
@osanan 6 лет назад
Thanks for this awesome tip!!!
@MrLazyNick
@MrLazyNick 5 лет назад
Excellent video)
@patricioolave7173
@patricioolave7173 5 лет назад
thanks!!! now I can use my fs-6 :)
@uapuat
@uapuat 3 года назад
This has put me off the flashback! Why don't they do it so it just works with any tap tempo switch?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 3 года назад
Yeah it's a design error without question but if you're able/willing to solder it still is a good budget delay that can offer tap tempo.
@gkathmandu
@gkathmandu 4 года назад
how can i use it with earnieball tap tempo?
@HarryAndAGuitar
@HarryAndAGuitar 6 лет назад
Yesssss Bo
@frankdedo5458
@frankdedo5458 6 лет назад
Does anybody know if the digitech fs300 or fsx footswitch works with it as tap tempo unit? Thanks
@shckltnebay
@shckltnebay 5 лет назад
Can you put a signal on the tip and still use the pedal in stereo?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 5 лет назад
No, when using tap tempo you lose stereo functionality
@shckltnebay
@shckltnebay 5 лет назад
@@guitargas1894 Kind of bummer, ive had the El cap(loved it, but wanted modulated) and have the Obscura but not totally happy with it.
@realmixonline
@realmixonline 5 лет назад
Nice video dude
@Tatopalmett
@Tatopalmett 5 лет назад
hi, do this work for the alter ego too ?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 5 лет назад
Nope, only flashback 2
@lucagregori963
@lucagregori963 5 лет назад
Thanks mate!
@yellowband5112
@yellowband5112 5 лет назад
I heve flashback 1 delay I can make this ? In flashback dilay 1 ?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 5 лет назад
No, only with the flashback 2
@yellowband5112
@yellowband5112 5 лет назад
@@guitargas1894 senck you wery mach
@electricolimon9054
@electricolimon9054 6 лет назад
Hello! do you know if this works for the Flashback x4?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
Eléctrico Limón nope it doesn't :/ this feature is only for the flashback 2 atm
@kimhansen6384
@kimhansen6384 6 лет назад
X4 has a dedicated tap tempo button!
@josuezuniga2123
@josuezuniga2123 6 лет назад
Hi! It is compatible with flashback triple delay?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
no it is not :)
@josuezuniga2123
@josuezuniga2123 6 лет назад
GuitarGAS so dad :(
@davepradomusic
@davepradomusic 6 лет назад
It is compatible with flashback 1?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
No unfortunately not :/
@AviG789
@AviG789 6 лет назад
The flashback 1 has the strum-tap feature (see the manual) which means a tap tempo foot switch is unnecessary
@hamdybahasuan9416
@hamdybahasuan9416 6 лет назад
Does it work for alter ego v2?
@guitargas1894
@guitargas1894 6 лет назад
Hamdy Bahasuan no unfortunately not :(
@uluiepra
@uluiepra Месяц назад
Странно, что Н смогли достигнуть передачу данных по usb midi. Просто по проводу.
@gonzoUAE
@gonzoUAE 6 лет назад
Good demo, are you Deftones's Abe Cunningham brother? LOL
@tanguydelooz2881
@tanguydelooz2881 6 лет назад
Great and helpful thanks. Though the title is misleading and should be "How to use the FB2 tap tempo with any footswitch". I expected some info on wether the tap tempo can be used with stereo delay on the FB2 and if there is still strum tempo available and with which modes (toneprint or stock).
@silasemportugal3791
@silasemportugal3791 5 лет назад
Tanks man very nice video you halp me...
@Beat13uk
@Beat13uk 6 лет назад
🙌🏼
@davidethangraham
@davidethangraham 6 лет назад
On the old one, you held down the switch for 1 second and strummed the beat
@hyperliteBo
@hyperliteBo 6 лет назад
True, but that is useless in a live setting imo :) thanks for watching !
@aintnothinbutdablues
@aintnothinbutdablues 6 лет назад
Great demo. Just what I needed to know But, couldn't you also use a TS-TS cable and plug a stereo jack adapter or a TRS-TRS with a mono jack adapter? www.thomann.de/de/the_sssnake_1844_adapter.htm www.thomann.de/de/thomann_sk140_winkel_klinke.htm?ref=prod_rel_275718_12
@HarleyMace
@HarleyMace 6 лет назад
or just get a BOSS DD-7 and be done with it.
@NathanHassall
@NathanHassall 6 лет назад
*I laughed out loud when you did the 1 2 3 4 5 ...nothing is happening!*
@jwstout007
@jwstout007 5 лет назад
WHY SO DIFFICULT?!?!?!?! JMFC & I bet they sell this cable for a "nominal" fee >=(
@gunjabeans
@gunjabeans 2 года назад
What a royal pain in the butt. Get it together TC.
@w.rustylane5650
@w.rustylane5650 3 года назад
Yeah, you solder this one first then you're fucked!!!
@zenithpinch
@zenithpinch 4 года назад
This is a great video. Thanks
@JW-lx2qe
@JW-lx2qe 6 лет назад
Can the output still do true stereo if you use tap tempo? Obviously cannot input stereo...
@spblat
@spblat 6 лет назад
No. If you config the pedal to use the tap pedal, stereo is disabled, even on the output side.
@narco73
@narco73 6 лет назад
Damn.