How to use threads in C++11 (multitasking, mutual exclusion, etc.)

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In this tool-assisted education video I explain the tools that C++11 introduced for creating multi-threaded programs. We will study each concept individually from #threads to condition variables and from futures to promises.
ENGLISH-LANGUAGE CLOSED CAPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE.
The source code and other materials can be DOWNLOADed here: bisqwit.iki.fi...
You can contribute subtitle translations at: www.youtube.co...
If you want to help me with money, I have a Patreon page at: / bisqwit
Music used in the video, in order of appearance:
- Wizardry V :: Artifacts (Kentarou Haneda)
- Star Ocean :: Calm Time (Motoi Sakuraba)
- Wonder Project J :: House (Akihito Mori)
All music was converted into MIDI and played using OPL3 simulation with homebrew software. The exact process is described here: • SNES music through OPL...
Footage music (also played through homebrew software):
- Cave Story :: Geothermal
Cameras used: Canon EOS 1200D, Canon PowerShot SX110IS
Lens: Tokina AT-X PRO 11-16mm F2.8 DX
Programming footage in: DOSBox
Resampling with: ffmpeg
Video editing in: kdenlive
Audio editing in: audacity & kdenlive
Muxing in: mkvmerge
Production dates: 2015-12-03 through 2016-01-22
Desktop computer is: Raspberry Pi
Secret code: OwjQkUo9Bgk
Compilers used: GCC 5.3.1
Robot is: Nao V4
If anything in the video requires clarification, please write a comment. I try to reply to every unique comment that contains a question addressed to me. Please make sure your privacy settings (possibly found as far as in Google+) will not prevent me from actually replying.
The editor used in the video, with Mario and all, is a 16-bit homebrew editor that only runs in 16-bit DOS. You can download it at the download page, but note that it is only designed for video making. It’s not meant for actual use, but it does work and is largely modelled after Joe.
Joseph Allen’s “Joe” editor makes an appearance at 21:11. You can find Joe at: joe-editor.sour... . It is my primary editing environment, both in Linux and in Cygwin. I am not using any other IDE.
Linux is used under DOSBox (for purpose of video production only) by using a modified version of DOSBox that provides forkpty() functions as DOS interrupts, and a homebrew terminal program running in DOS, that supports xterm-256color escapes. The terminal program is useless without the patched version of DOSBox (and furthermore this patch will only work in Linux). Nonetheless you can find both on the download page, linked above.
Reference material used and highly recommended:
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About author: Joel Yliluoma is an author who publishes videos in RU-vid under the name “Bisqwit”, ranging diverse topics from programming to gaming and from cats to religion. He has been programming since 1992, and for most years since then, it has been his primary, sometimes only hobby. Though most of his professional life has been spent developing business web applications, he prefers working with low level code targeting older systems. In 2014―2015 he was also a coach driver working for Savonlinja in Finland. He is also known for founding TASVideos.org, a website and community centered around making “tool-assisted” speedruns of classic video games. Outside Internet, he is known for teaching Israeli folk dance in Finland.
Twitter: / realbisqwit
Patreon: / bisqwit (alternatives at iki.fi/bisqwit...)
Twitch: / realbisqwit
Homepage: iki.fi/bisqwit/
The source code and other materials can be DOWNLOADed here: bisqwit.iki.fi...
You can contribute subtitle translations at: www.youtube.co...
If you want to help me with money, I have a Patreon page at: / bisqwit
Note to self: Possible topics for a hypothetical second episode:
- Thread-local variables
- Memory order declarations
- What the standard says about memory interactions between threads
- What the standard guarantees about when variable changes are committed into RAM
- Clustering
- CPU affinity
#Bisqwit #ThreadProgramming #Tutorial #Parallelism #Programming

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@Bisqwit 5 лет назад

Information evacuated from annotations that RU-vid dropped support for in 2019-01-15: 12:35 “std::async is more convenient to use than std::thread, but std::thread has lower overhead. Use std::async when you are running something "asynchronously" on the background and you need the results only later at some particular point in the program. Use std::thread when you are doing threads in bulk for parallel processing.” 13:13 “You would use std::promise when you want to send a value into std::future, while still continuing to execute the thread/asynchronous function.” 13.39 “Clarification: The std::promise is not the only way to pass exceptions. E.g. if the function, that is called with std::async, throws an exception and it is not caught, it will be transmitted through the std::future associated with the std::async call. The same goes with std::packaged_task.” 14:00 “In my opinion, the reason why you would use std::future at all, is that it is more convenient than some alternatives composed from lower-level constructs.” 21:33 “Note: Using sched_yield() or std::this_thread::yield() would be a mistake. It is ineffective solution.”

@yayafitini 8 лет назад

it's not like i understand what he's doing , i subscribed cause i wish i could do this. fascinating

@Hrithmus 7 лет назад

Hahahaha same here man

@TheClockwerkman 7 лет назад

Go read the about threads

@RoamingAdhocrat 5 лет назад

Forget threads. `std::cout

@michaelscofield1970 4 года назад

That ' ' info blew my mind. I am forever in debt to Bisqwit

@rebecca6683 8 лет назад

your voice is so soothing i love it, i just listen to your voice while i'm at work

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+a Thank you!

@mighty2146 3 года назад

Also the bgm its just too good and nostalgic + his sound is somewhat robotic it makes it even better

@kenkelvin4023 3 года назад

>She

@Bisqwit 3 года назад

@CP200S 8 лет назад

Bisqwit, the world needs more people like you!

@lfa8903 8 лет назад

You talk very clearly, going straight to the point and not waisting time. I like your tutorial. Thank you!

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Mikko Finell It's a matter of whether you prefer thinking much to type little, or thinking little to type lots, to achieve the same outcome. As the saying goes: work smarter, not harder. (Also, I can't reply to your comment directly. Please check your Google+ privacy settings.)

@treldar 7 лет назад

Which do you prefer in a context of your choosing? I usually find myself thinking lots and typing little, though i've questioned my process due to possible recurring inefficiencies. Unfortunately, i fear a lack of perspective to realize if my process is ripe for change, hence my seemingly shallow question.

@paulkerrigan9857 8 лет назад

You are a smart man, thanks for these tutorials. I learned with C# and use PHP for my day job. I worry that those are far too high-level to learn about how the computer operates, so I'm learning C++ in my spare time, with Direct3D 11. I'm still a beginner, because I feel embarrassed each time I read my old code. I don't want abstractions to hinder my understanding. Can you tell us how you learned to code? I'm guessing you experiment a lot - you write your own editor for DOS and demonstrate familiarity with a great deal of subjects. Thanks for your videos. Very interesting.

@danilo2735 4 года назад

update, did you learn c++?

@jockey7779 3 года назад

Hope you can learn C++ it really is a good language

@tototrapsilo Год назад

How it's now?

@MarkIn4D 8 лет назад

Oh, and I was just trying to be educated about this topic a few days ago, how nice of you to share a video about it. Excellent editing as usual. :)

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Márk Morshu Thank you!

@FirstLast-fx3mf 7 лет назад

Bisqwit So std is function? I thought it was a sexual transmitted disease

@Bisqwit 7 лет назад

std in the context of C++ is an abbreviation for standard. It is used as the identifier for standard namespace functions. I realize this may be a totally revolutionary idea that you have never thought before, but abbreviations and acronyms can actually have multiple meanings! For example, P.S. may mean Post Scriptum, but it may also mean Photoshop, Playstation, Psalms, or about three hundred other things. There are a number of free websites cataloging well-known meanings of acronyms and abbreviations. For example: www.acronymfinder.com/STD.html Hope this helps!

@FirstLast-fx3mf 7 лет назад

+Bisqwit I'm just joking I know what std means in C++ 14. Hey I got question like do have tutorials that involve making emulators in C# in visual studios because I'm more fimiliar with coding in C# and I really want to make my first emulator but I don't know how to start because they really isn't any tutorials on how to make emulators on C# and I'm really fluent in that programming language. I only seen emulators being done in C++ or in java but never in C# and I know it can be done in C# because Visual Studios has intergated OpenGL ES 3.0 support for applications your making. Like I already made my first application which used Threads, while loops, if and else statements. The threads are really easy for me to code in C# there's some differences between C# and C++ 14 but it's the same functions it does because I remember when I ran the threads for the first time I had to modify it because it was you using the cpu 100% so I had to make the threads sleep so it can run perfectly only using 1% of the cpu. Same concept but it just structure differently.

@Bisqwit 7 лет назад

I know you were joking. It is also my type of humor to respond to such joke in an all serious and excessively smothering style, in case that wasn't obvious. As for C# and Visual Studio, I'm not fond of vendor-lock-in and products of that vendor in general -- or in fact, products in general, so no. I like teaching people ideas and technologies, not products. "because it was you using the cpu 100%" I think I'm having trouble parsing your message. You seemed to be talking about C# and about your adventures with thread programming, but suddenly there was a word "you" out of blue. What are you talking about?

@NonTwinBrothers 2 года назад

(Thank you for putting subtitles in all your videos!)

@whynot-vq2ly 5 лет назад

the only problem I have when watching your videos is the amont of informations there is it's really great and well done. no side talks no long and boring explantions only pure code juice. thanks

@Bisqwit 5 лет назад

That doesn’t seem like a problem! Thanks for writing.

@whynot-vq2ly 5 лет назад

@@Bisqwit thanks for replying :]

@CalBart42 7 лет назад

You Sir are a true gentleman and a pleasure to listen too and learn from ... thanks for sharing your knowledge

@haxpor 5 лет назад

Only 5 minutes mark, it already packed several of new knowledge for me. Thanks!

@whatamievendoing 8 лет назад

You've become one of my favorite broadcasters on RU-vid! Your videos are a lot of fun to watch.

@vittorioromeo1 8 лет назад

Excellent tutorial! Shared it with my followers. I have been guilty of using "busy loops" before getting acquainted with `std::condition_variable`...

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Vittorio Romeo Thank you! Also congratulations on your 3000th!

@velocityra 8 лет назад

WOOHOO new Bisquit video!

@SuperNolane 8 лет назад

I love your manner of explanation. Perfect work.

@meJevin 7 лет назад

ага

@graphoverflow 7 лет назад

His voice and the music is so calm and I could just watch it because it's soo soothing :)

@jacobsullivan8512 8 лет назад

Thanks for the video! I always enjoy hearing about what you have been working on.

@josemaria2094 5 лет назад

You are an example for me, totaly awesome!

@mikaelmoizt 8 лет назад

Nice to see a new video! Although I don't understand much of it, I kind of get the idea of it. The elgegancy of high level programming always fascinates me :)

@tamburine 8 лет назад

Thanks! Introduction to futures is great. I was struggling to understand it since I read about them in "C++ concurrency in action", and only now I feel I get something.

@Humble_Electronic_Musician 9 месяцев назад

Clear, concise and very good explanation 🙏🏻!

@wesmatron 8 лет назад

You are a bloody legend.

@KamiKagutsuchi 8 лет назад

The music, narration and style of the entire thing reminds me so much of the Hitchicker's Guide to the Galaxy tv show!

@version191 8 лет назад

Heart of maelstrom soundtrack is amazing. Love your videos, cheers

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+version191 It is, yeah. I haven't listened to the entire soundtrack, as I picked this song (Wizardry V, Artifacts) by random from a selection of all SNES games, but the couple I did listen from this game were quite nice.

@revoiceful 6 лет назад

I liked the concept of diving deep into an example and then coming back to an easy one again. This really refreshed the concept and made the following example a lot easier to understand. I even found the pending error on the Producer/Consumer example before you explained it (I am no C/C++ programmer, just scripting languages)

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

Thank you for your feedback!

@goldchalice 8 лет назад

Promises and futures are very popular concepts in apps found on the web. Learning to use promises really made asynchronous programming eloquent.

@anonimenkolbas1305 8 лет назад

Great video as always. Thank you for taking the time to teach us! :)

@jojodi 8 лет назад

Great video :) I hope over time we can have more tools in the standard library. Standardized threading is wonderful!

@luisponce3580 4 года назад

Liked the video because of the video's description

@lauretivan6231 7 лет назад

Found your channel like that ! awesome what you do and learn, programmer too, your blog is awesome too !!!

@Junior7setti 8 лет назад

LOL! I am still laughing cuz of that blue screen of death. Unfortunately I had to learn this topic in the hard way. Nice tutorial! I wish I had it when I first started working with threads. About the game loop, I spent months trying to figure out that LOL!

@monolyth421 7 лет назад

♪(Nice music continues)♪

@bibasniba1832 4 года назад

Thanks Bisqwit!

@jarrad2000 8 лет назад

Thank you, very nice tutorial. I'm a new subscriber and even though I think your channel is a little weird it somehow has a distinct charm. I don't mean this offensive (I'm German so I have an accent in English as well) but at first I thought your voice was some kind of speech synthesis ;) Your english is very good, it's just about the speed / pitch... I don't know... it just sounds really similar to early speech synthesis to me.

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+jarrad2000 Sorry about that. That is just me trying to tackle the triathlon tongue twisters in the English language. That, and the fact that everything I say audio-only in this video is 100% scripted, because if I try to go off script, I totally lose my train of thought and fail to put things in the concise format you are familiar with in my videos. (You can see an example of me going off script at 0:54-1:15. Compare with subtitles. Or compare with video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-h37xb8YkMJ4.html which is me going _entirely_ without a script.) There's very little that I can do about these, except to shut up and not talk, or to keep doing it and hope that within the passage of years some improvement is made.

@jarrad2000 8 лет назад

Bisqwit No, I am sorry. I did not mean this as critique or offense. Your english is good and can be well understood. I even like the accent but like I said I just think it sounds similar to early speech synth. That's not a bad thing, it's kind of cool :)

@lupinedreamexpress 6 лет назад

I pray for your health, a blood pressure machine and some medical cloth in the video is not a good sign. You are intelligent and need to be blessed to share more with the world.

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

Thank you. The “cloth” is just an ordinary sheet, nothing medical about it. I do monitor my blood pressure sometimes.

@lupinedreamexpress 6 лет назад

You're welcome. Question for you while you are awake. The MIDI file that is played in your typing game in the background, do you have that available ? I'm a composer and would like to give it a mix-up, with your permission ofcourse.

@theseriousaccount 8 лет назад

This video is great. I'm subbed , looking forward to more

@kikos055 7 лет назад

This is just amazing Bisqwit ! Keep up please ;)

@godDIEmanLIVE 5 лет назад

Just implemented my first thread yesterday and cheered triumphantly. After watching this I feel like a damn peasant :D

@FlavourlessLife 5 лет назад

Bisqwit is the real deal. You know the child's toy where there are different shaped blocks with matching shaped holes?... After watching Bisqwit I feel like my programming abilities are equivalent to a baby trying to repeatedly smash the triangle through the square shaped hole. Then I give up, throw it on the floor and look for something else to play with.

@InnocentEX 8 лет назад

Great Video! Your explanations are excellent.

@rafaelmoura8688 8 лет назад

uhuul, nice Bisqwit.

@halemm 8 лет назад

wow excellent video, as always!

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Hal Emmerich Thank you very much!

@ronaegis 8 лет назад

Great video! I would suggest declaring the 'end' variable as volatile at 19:04 since the tests on it could be optimized out by some compilers. :)

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+ronaegis You may have misunderstood something. Declaring a variable volatile never leads into optimizations. Rather, it is very much the opposite. It means the compiler can _never_ optimize and combine two reads into one, or assume that a variable that was just written will have the same value when read again. The only reason why people think it's good for use with threads is because it forces the compiler to always access the variable from memory, ensuring that it will never use a cached value from the very fast CPU registers, because it might possibly be stale. It most definitely will not lead into optimizations.

@thetrickster42 8 лет назад

+Bisqwit I think he means that the optimiser might 'optimise' away the tests without volatile in the variable's definition.

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Conor Manning Oh. I see. That makes sense. I am not really sure, but I _think_ the compiler is not really permitted to do that either. What _is_ apparently permitted is that the writes into memory are not synchronized between CPU cores, and `volatile` is _not_ designed to help that in any manner. Quoting stackoverflow.com/questions/4557979/when-to-use-volatile-with-multi-threading: The C++11 Standard now _does_ acknowledge multithreading directly in the memory model and the language, and it provides library facilities to deal with it in a platform-independent way. However the semantics of `volatile` still have not changed. `volatile` is still not a synchronization mechanism. _Bjarne Stroustrup_ says as much in TCPPPL4E: "Do not use `volatile` except in low-level code that deals directly with hardware. Do not assume `volatile` has special meaning in the memory model. It does not. It is not -- as in some later languages -- a synchronization mechanism. To get synchronization, use `atomic`, a`mutex`, or a `condition_variable`."

@thetrickster42 8 лет назад

Yeah, this thread (stackoverflow.com/questions/24126091/is-it-a-bug-for-g-and-clang-optimization) cleared it up in my mind. The asker has a bug in his code which I can reproduce on my machine. The top answer to that question is helpful: "No. The C and C++ memory models do not permit cross-thread interactions for non-atomic variables, or when not protected by a mutex/lock. This is a data race and in violation of the abstract machine, so the optimizer is perfectly within its rights to launch Nethack. The optimizer is written to assume, as it is explicitly permitted to do so by Standard, that external sources (including other threads) cannot magically mutate your program's state without explicit control by the user." So if we want to use optimising compilers, we have to be careful to eliminate data races, even ones we don't care about. That said, atomic can be used to eliminate bugs like this, still no need for volatile.

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Conor Manning Thank you! Not as entertaining an explanation as the traditional references to nasal demons, but very useful nonetheless.

@RahulJain-wr6kx 3 года назад

Excellent Tutorial

@JovenAlbarida 7 лет назад

what kind C++ editor you used? I like the Mario characters running on the top status bar :D

@BucifalulR 7 лет назад

@Joven Albarida: I was wondering the same and it actually seems our question's been answered in the description :). I'll copy-paste, but you can also find this in the video description: "The editor used in the video, with Mario and all, is a 16-bit homebrew editor that only runs in 16-bit DOS. You can download it at the download page, but note that it is only designed for video making. It’s not meant for actual use, but it does work and is largely modelled after Joe. Joseph Allen’s “Joe” editor makes an appearance at 21:11. You can find Joe at: joe-editor.sourceforge.net/ . It is my primary editing environment, both in Linux and in Cygwin. I am not using any other IDE."

@misterj9817 7 лет назад

Thank You so much, Great work. I really appreciate it.

@MindLessWiz 8 лет назад

Brilliant!! Thank you so much!

@redchards 8 лет назад

First of all, very pleasant and informative video. But also, your english speaking really improved, especially the speech flow ! Oh, and one question, I'm not aware of you having any blog or things like that, do you plan to make some written articles along with your programming videos ? It could allow you to speak about subjecst you wouldn't have time to cover in one video, without all the work video recording and editing. Anyway, always a pleasure to watch your videos !

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Loic Urien Thank you for the very nice feedback. As for speech, I think it got a little better in the second half, as I had been listening kdenlive play my speech at slow speed (because it's extremely laggy with 60fps 2160p video) and I was beginning to notice some patterns in my inflection. No, I don't currently have any blog the sort you are described. I may at some point add some potentially missing information on the download page, that currently is just a list of downloadable files.

@nthexwn 8 лет назад

I'm currently writing a multi-threaded program where I have a boolean flag which I forgot to wrap inside a mutex lock. Curiously, it seems that one thread is always able to read this flag at the same time that another is writing to it. Initially I suspected that this was a race condition between the two threads which always favored one of the threads, but my understanding of context switching in most OS'es tells me that both threads aren't always necessarily executing at the same time anyway, so that wouldn't fully explain it. The code is also structured such that one thread reads the variable at very even intervals (based on monitor refresh rate) while the other thread writes to the variable quite sporadically (game calculations involving random numbers and such). This leads me to believe that, statistically speaking, there should be a collision between the two threads when accessing the flag after having run the program all night... But it still seems to work! My current guess is that the boolean flag fits inside the memory bus on my PC so that the hardware itself is making the read and write transactions atomic. Could this be true? If so, wouldn't there be a third case at 20:20 - 20:35 in the video?: "If the object being accessed by both threads is of a primitive type which takes up less memory than the bus width of all hardware devices on which your program is intended to be run, then you also don't need a mutex lock" I feel that this would still be a generally bad programming practice, but it does seem like it might be a fun trick to use when performance REALLY matters (probably not often though since I believe mutex locks only take O(1) execution time).

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Alexander Johnson So your case is that one thread is reading the variable and other thread is writing the variable (sporadically or not). Unless the reading thread uses one of the synchronization primitives (atomic, mutex, condition_variable), there's no guarantee that it will ever notice writes by the other thread. Unless the writing thread uses one of those synchronization primitives, there's no guarantee that any other thread ever notices those writes. Bus width has nothing to do with it. It's simply a matter of undefined behavior. (A practical explanation lies in variables fitting registers, spilling pressure etc, but it is irrelevant.)

@yashwanthcb 8 лет назад

you are so obedient

@nk361 8 лет назад

Please more advanced tutorials! I love advanced tutorials but they're so tough to find.

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Neil Kline Any particular topic in mind?

@nk361 8 лет назад

Lots of threads lol Collision detection for abstract shapes Lighting physics and creating working light sources Disk readers A compact installer for software Memory managment and memory leaks Multithreaded graphics 2D collision with a quad-tree or similar Disk checker Checking port for listening services Checking for installed software and running code to use the installed software General file managment and naming schemes in c++ software projects Creating procedurally made objects that fit parameters Thank you in advance, you have some very valuable content already!

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Neil Kline Thanks! Be mindful though, that quite many of those topics are very platform-specific. I never do anything Windows-specific in my programming videos.

@nk361 8 лет назад

Bisqwit I didn't know that, I'll be happy with any of them you decide to do. Also, if you come across some code with some sort of trick in it, I'd like to know. I've heard of someone using for loops as if else statements once. I don't know why though lol

@terrencecoccoli524 7 лет назад

Your voice reminds me of that classic film The Seventh Seal.

@nominatim538 8 лет назад

Hello, Bisqwit. I'm a junior-to-middle C# developer and after watching your videos I've really wanted to learn C++ and create emulators. Which books about C++ and computer architecture would you recommend. Thanx a lot

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Lex Cerveza Sorry, I'm not much a book person myself, as nearly all of the material I use is free in the Internet. People have told me to recommend C++ Primer though. ISBN 9780321714114

@Luftbubblan 7 лет назад

Nice video. It feels pretty hard for me to follow doe so i have to watch it multiple times :P

@tomhijkl 7 лет назад

I miss programming videos a lot

@JovenAlbarida 7 лет назад

like all your videos :) thanks

@pleinair6318 8 лет назад

amazing tutorial!

@losav96 7 лет назад

+Bisqwit Hi, can you explain me why do you use "auto" type so often instead of int, char, long, etc. types? Is there a reason behind that? Thank you in advance, I'm here to learn :)

@Bisqwit 7 лет назад

The auto keyword is used when it is not relevant for the calling code to know precisely the datatype returned by a called function, or when it would be pointless to repeat that information multiple times in the program. Using "auto" gives greater freedoms to change the type later, with fewer changes to the program being necessary. It (usually) decreases the amount needed to type and (usually) makes the program more maintainable.

@losav96 7 лет назад

Bisqwit Thank you! When "auto" came out (C++11/14) I saw "some Python" inside the C++.

@monolyth421 7 лет назад

Hi Bisqwit, I am confused about what is happening on this line: return Out((r

@Bisqwit 7 лет назад

Where ever it reads std::forward(x), you can just read, x. std::forward just ensures that the type is perfectly forwarded without any conversions. So basically, the function definition, that this line is part of, does this: Out(r, a, things...) becomes Out( (r

@drewnoakes 8 лет назад

Another great video, thanks. Where is the C++ 3D engine video? I enjoyed your C video from a year back, but the footage you show here looks unfamiliar. Is that video available?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Drew Noakes It's still work in progress. It's missing features (most importantly, moving actors, which are technically possible, it's just the rotation math and actual placement that is missing), and the core must be compacted a lot before it can be presented in any reasonable-length video. You can find bits of the current design here: twitter.com/RealBisqwit/status/687000747007946752

@pavelp80 6 лет назад

Good work. You deserve a biscuit :-) or box of them, well a donation ...

@cr9pr3 8 лет назад

excellent video!

@ancientapparition1638 7 лет назад

Thanks much my friend

@akapype 8 лет назад

I would have hope std::atomic ...

@DusteDdekay 8 лет назад

Great video, interesting subject indeed! :) I have a question, I've noticed your voice change when you explain the code on screen, and I wonder if you've made your own text-to-speech for this? It's your voice, but there's something different about it compared to when you talk in front of the camera.

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+DusteDs Stuff When I talk on-camera, the speech is captured by the camera’s microphone at a distance of one meter. In other parts, the speech is captured by a headset microphone a couple of cm off my mouth, via a laptop's microphone jack, further postprocessed in Audacity to remove an extremely obnoxious 50 Hz noise (and other noise). In the on-camera scenes I also captured the speech with the headset, but because the camera's audio was surprisingly good enough, and there would have been lots of work to sync the computer audio to the camera audio (because each recording device has deviating timings for some reason), I discarded the headset audio for those parts.

@DusteDdekay 8 лет назад

+piggy66 go show us something better.

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+piggy66 Sorry man, but what is your problem? Noticing your other comment, you seem to be on a hostile mood. I hope everything is fine with you.

@Fr3akyPL 8 лет назад

You are crazy! Great video!

@0XAN 7 лет назад

you are the best!

@danaadalaide5648 6 лет назад

The curl c api isn't that bad, you have the easy functions and just set a callback or use a lambda

@kafkawood 8 лет назад

I like the camera angle change, very pro :) Whats that sphygmomanometer for?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Gentleman Thanks! The blood pressure meter is a random prop I had laying on the table. In retrospect, I should have put a telephone there (which I did in my Patreon campaign video). I do actually use the gauge occasionally, because I have high blood pressure (and always had, to my knowledge). I have never heard that Greek-originating word before. Medical terminology in English is so weird and difficult.

@kafkawood 8 лет назад

+Bisqwit The greek term is insane, agreed, provided by google translator :) Have you ever considered to put your programming skills to some stand-alone project? Or is it just individual problems that interest you?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

I have made several stand-alone projects. You can find a (incomplete) listing here. bisqwit.iki.fi/src/

@kafkawood 8 лет назад

+Bisqwit Cool, thanks. I see you are a fan of Go, what do you think about the recent defeat of champion by AI?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Gentleman Hmm. I hadn’t finished watching the match yet, when your comment was posted, so you sort of spoiled the outcome to me, because I wanted to and did watch the whole match. Of course you had no way of knowing that. In any case, I have two viewpoints to this. As a Go player, this is tremendously exciting for me. The Japanese Go players are already calling the computer program AlphaGo-sensei. This is a title of respect given to anyone who is in a position of superior knowledge. The very prospect, that there might be a Go player who is stronger than any human player today, is exhilarating. It might even open up a new era in Go: For now there is a source of new ideas, a potential new world of theories of openings and other areas of play. It may entirely challenge some existing beliefs on how the game is to be played, as has happened on several occassions in the history. On the other hand, there is the scary possibility that AlphaGo is nothing more than a monument of technological prowess to Google, and that as soon as this publicity period is over, the resources allocated to it (which cost money) are directed to other things and that the Go players are left standing in the snow. This, too, is a thing that tends to happen with research projects driven by PR. As a programmer, I find this very exciting. I have tackled the problem of Go AI myself, and I have studied Go programs like GnuGo, and I know all about the problems that Go-playing AIs are facing. Among many other things, AlphaGo is using neural networks. I have personally tried to use the same idea years ago for Go AI, but neural networks are still somewhat black magic to me. I’m not quite sure what makes them tick. Neural networks are doing some very impressive things today, particularly in the area of image processing. The concept of emergent intelligence is at the core here. I’m not sure what to make of it. Until I can figure out what’s the deal, there is a real chance that this whole thing may end up challenging my beliefs on things like evolution and singularity. As a programmer I would like to put my spoon in the soup and hands in the dough, but like I said, neural networks are still somewhat a mystery to me. I have read articles, and I have read mathematics, and I have studied source code of numerous libraries, but I am still not there yet.

@aham3687 6 лет назад

Sir, can you also make video on deep neural network?

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

Maybe some day!

@brucen83 7 лет назад

dude i like you your weird accent, i dont really use c++ for anything - but i have done some simple stuff with it in the past, but this was a nice recommendation from youtube. what do you do for a living?

@Bisqwit 7 лет назад

I do actually do C++ for living right now. But I have also done other things, not all even programming related.

@huyvole9724 6 лет назад

You're Super Senior Programmer C++

@ProjectPhysX 6 лет назад

I have an array of lets say 8 threads all running infinite loops and I need to synchronize the threads multiple times within the loops, so the 7 fastest threads need to wait until the last one reached the synchronization point and then can continue. What is the best way to implement this?

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

OpenMP would make this easy with its #pragma omp barrier keyword. EDIT: But if you would like to do it in standard C++, you would probably use a condition_variable or two, and an atomic counter. Each thread entering the barrier will increment the counter, use notify_all() on the condition variable, and if the counter is smaller than the expected number of threads, block on the condition variable. The thread will wake up any time a new thread enters the barrier and calls notify_all(). (It can also wake up spontaneously.) In such event, check if the counter has reached the expected number of threads, and if so, try_lock a mutex so a single thread will reset the counter to zero. That is the overall gist of it. It may need more details to it, but if I needed to do it, I would probably check what an existing OpenMP implementation actually does at the barrier.

@luizgabriel98 4 года назад

This combination of DOS and C++17 bugs my mind! LOL

@BronzeDoc 8 лет назад

Love your videos Bisqwit, what is the font you use for coding?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+BronzeDoc I use -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso8859-15 when coding. But I suspect that's not what you really wanted to know. You are asking about the font that is shown in DOSBox, which I use in video productions. DOSBox uses (a copy of) the ROM/BIOS font(s) that is built in all VGA compatible graphics cards, regardless of operating system, drivers and files.

@thdotaku 8 лет назад

>A blood pressure meter on the table. Do you have blood pressure problems bisqwit?Or any other health issues?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

I do monitor my blood pressure at times. As for my details of my health, I rather not discuss that in RU-vid comments :-)

@thdotaku 8 лет назад

+Bisqwit Thank you for your answer, got a little bit curious and maybe worried, since you are of the few good content creators on RU-vid.And I thought maybe I should expect your content to stop cause of health issues.Best of luck :-)

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

thdotaku Thanks. I actually began a new job two weeks ago, and I'm deliberately slowing down my video production schedule to give myself more energy to catch up to speed at the work. I'm doing IoT firmware programming. I expect to make a new episode of CVP next weekend and release it a couple of days after that. Although researchwise this particular game is proving to be somewhat tough. It has already been researched by others, but I want to see if there's something people have missed or if the mechanics can be simplified.

@thdotaku 8 лет назад

Good luck with your new work on the Internet of Things.Though i don't know why this sector of technologies is being pushed so much,(i.e. why would I need all my home devices and appliances connect to the internet or my phone). Keep up the good work.

@thdotaku 8 лет назад

But if its for example controlling the traffic by making cars communicate with the roads and passengers then automatically adjusting speeds or routes then i guess its funding is justified.

@darktrece 8 лет назад

what online courses for Cpp do you recommend? thanks for sharing

@martinh7544 7 лет назад

What console or IDE is that? It's great!

@AlexNiebla 8 лет назад

I am quite interested in knowing your setup, machine (hw, CPU, GPU, amount of GB of RAM, type of HDisk, screen size and resolution) your operating system, your code editor, that small keyboard .... just curious.

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Alex Niebla You know I'm using many computers. For instance, the computer connected to the little keyboard and the tiny display (actually a car reversing monitor) in the beginning is a Raspberry Pi. You can find a picture of that setup on my Twitter page.

@pchandu1995 8 лет назад

you're an insane programmer i ever seen, you have to stream in livecoding.tv.

@Aerospyke 8 лет назад

Thanks for the video! Have you considered starting a patreon account so I can send a few euros your way?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Aerospyke I do in fact have one already at www.patreon.com/Bisqwit . (Just in case, so someone else doesn't take the name.) But I haven't advertised it anywhere because I haven't yet thought of content to put on that page. Thank you very much for your consideration!

@imode256 8 лет назад

The bottom-left annotation links to your Doom tutorial, but shows a different video..? It looks like the OpenGL scene you worte a while back.

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Ryan Jones Actually the link changes in the middle of the clip, as does the scene. :-)

@imode256 8 лет назад

+Bisqwit Ah! Was wondering how you did the non-Euclidean geometry without a portal renderer. Thanks!

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Ryan Jones Well, what you see in that clip is all rendered in one go with a single program. You'll see what it's really about when the time comes. :-)

@imode256 8 лет назад

Bisqwit :D! Exciting!

@jaiggm 6 лет назад

What distribution keyboard are you using for programming? Do you write so fast as the video is showing?

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

I use qwerty, but these videos are tool-assisted performances.

@jaiggm 6 лет назад

Thanks for the answer and thank you for the content. I'm learning a lot.

@JozuaSijsling 4 года назад

From experience I know it's easy to mess up mutual exclusion, but I've also seen it many times in production code. Lock too much and the thing you tried to parallelise will actually run sequentially. Effectively paying the cost of locking threads and the cost of spawning threads but gaining nothing. Lock too little and your code effectively hides dangerous multi-threading bugs. Such bugs are notoriously hard to trace and it's quite common that programmers think they've locked things well and don't need to review the locks, while the bug comfortably hides there. And finally there is the dreaded dead-lock, something you desperately want to avoid but requires good understanding of how the locks you place interact with other threads and their lock-state. It's complex. You should use it but with care.

@Bisqwit 4 года назад

Yes, this video is a tutorial on the low-level “how”, not the high-level “how”. To put it analogously, I am telling you how to solder components on a circuitboard, not how you should design your circuits. There is a _lot_ to making multithreaded programs.

@shahabmeteor8975 5 лет назад

Thanks a lot for your video, Is 200 Bytes is normal with your additional extra code? at the cost of cpu utilization?

@Bisqwit 5 лет назад

Sorry, but I don’t understand what you are asking. Can you try to be more clear?

@shahabmeteor8975 5 лет назад

@@Bisqwit At 22:25 you compare cpu utilization with condition variables for busy loop, there is also memory beside, it has been increased 200 bytes I think, how is it explained? Thx

@Bisqwit 5 лет назад

I would not pay attention to the memory usage when the difference is that small. It is within error marginal. Differences can be caused by alignment/fragmentation losses in memory allocator. You can notice even the two successive runs had a different reading for memory use.

@shahabmeteor8975 5 лет назад

@@Bisqwit Exactly, that was also strange to me, In any case it should be increased compare to without condition variables but it's complicated to understand how. Thank you for your clear explanation

@tw7522 7 лет назад

That's a nice keyboard. What brand is it?

@Bisqwit 7 лет назад

It is a cheap USB mini keyboard. I am having trouble locating the exact model again, but it is very similar to this: bisqwit.iki.fi/dx/p/241319

@eleganteatinginjapan659 6 лет назад

Hello, I was wondering what "dltotal ? dlnow*100./dltotal : 0" does or to be more precise what the difference is between calling it with and without the dot before the division with the total bytes of the current file

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

So you know the ternary expression, right? So let’s focus on the dot. The purpose of . is this: 100 and 100. are both numeric literals, but the type of 100 is int, while the type of 100. is double. What happens when you multiply an integer by an integer and divide by an integer? You get an integer. But when one of these values is a double, the result is a double as well.

@eleganteatinginjapan659 6 лет назад

I've tried changing the format for the progress from int to double inside of the printf statement in my C Implementation and together with your explanation it makes sense. Thank you for your quick response, I got it now :D

@vladimirfomene2847 7 лет назад

Hello I saw a video where you implemented a DCPU-16 emulator and I will like to know how to do it? Where to start?

@Bisqwit 7 лет назад

You mean this? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MvDtr3cNaLU.html Tip: Comment at the video you are talking about, so others who watch it can also benefit from the discussion relevant to the video.

@rickveens92 8 лет назад

Do you actually type this fast? Or is it sped up? your cursor blinks a lot, but the time seems to be normal speed in the top-right corner... hm

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

That is the normal cursor blinking speed for VGA text console. As for my typing speed, check out this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jnkOcAkLkBU.html

@KishoreG2396 5 лет назад

Why use an anonymous namespace instead of a static function?

@Bisqwit 5 лет назад

With the “static” keyword you can only limit functions and variables into the current compilation unit. With an anonymous namespace you can also limit classes and other type names. Personally I use “static” unless I need also the latter, but I digress; it is not so important to me.

@iProgramInCpp 4 года назад

What's the S suffix at the end of strings? Is it just to mark that the things in quotes should be treated as a std::string, instead of a char*?

@Bisqwit 4 года назад

It means the compiler will insert a std::string construction there, and the expression has the type std::string. For example, "mocha"s is the same as if you typed std::string("mocha", 5). Notice the number 5, which is inserted by the compiler. It is the length of the string. If you did std::string("mocha"), the program would have to calculate the length of the string at runtime, because all it sees is a nul-terminated character pointer. It’s just a tiny thing, but good to be aware of. This does require that one additional line though, using namespace std::literals::string_literals;. Which can be shorted to: using namespace std::string_literals; (which I didn’t know when making this video).

@iProgramInCpp 4 года назад

@@Bisqwit Sounds interesting. Maybe adding that makes the program more stable/efficient? That's cool regardless.

@Bisqwit 4 года назад

Totally a trifle. But it is attention to many of these small things that makes one a professional programmer.

@iProgramInCpp 4 года назад

@@Bisqwit trifle? Sorry, English is not my native language.

@Bisqwit 4 года назад

www.google.com/search?q=trifle

@DFsdf3443d 6 лет назад

is that vim you are using?

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

nope

@Tudorgeable 8 лет назад

Modern operating systems like Linux, as opposed to what? DOS?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+Tudorgeable Yes. This was my tale from mid-90s.

@ppBizU 8 лет назад

I am looking at a clock in an editor (or TTY). Do you really write a program so fast?!

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+ppBizU Watch this video to find out how I make programming videos: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5Da6ZyQJjE0.html

@ppBizU 8 лет назад

+Bisqwit Thank you!

@KishoreG2396 4 года назад

19:26 How can you call std::async() without asking the main thread to "join" with the thread that async launches? Why is that only necessary when creating "std::thread" objects? How would the main thread automatically know to "join" with the thread that async launches? Is there RAII happening here somewhere? Also, in what situation would one want to use std::async without specifying std::launch::async nor std::launch::deferred (meaning that the default will be implementation defined, or equivalent to std::launch::async | std::launch::deferred)? What is the purpose of the standard providing the default for std::async to be implementation defined and out of the control of the programmer rather than making the default std::launch::async, since most people want it to start an asynchronous task?

@Bisqwit 4 года назад

std::thread does not need to wait for the thread either, if you call its .detach() method. However, std::async() returns an _object_ that incorporates some kind of reference to the thread. When you call the .wait() or .get() method on that object, it essentially does the same as the .join() method for std::thread, except it also returns the value (and launches the thread first, if it was a deferred async method). As for why there is no default, no idea.

@KishoreG2396 4 года назад

@@Bisqwit Yes, std::async returns a future.. But if you had code in main that was just an async() call, and nothing more (you don't call "wait" or "get" on the retrieved future object), then the program still works without abruptrly ending or throwing an exception. Why is that? Normally, with std::thread, if you launch an std::thread in main() and you don't call join() or detatch(), the program will just throw an exception and abort. However, with async, the program automatically seems to join() with the thread called by async() even if you don't do anything with the future object returned by async(). Why is that? Here is an example code: onlinegdb.com/HJUQlLSsU As you can see in the main function, we retrieve the future object, but we never call wait() on it. Yet the main() thread still waits for new_thread() to finish before getting to the "return 0" statement. Why is that?

@Bisqwit 4 года назад

If you have just an async() call, it still returns a value. If you don’t store that value in a variable, then the destructor of the returned object is called. For a std::future created by std::async, the destructor will block until the return value of the asynchronous function becomes available. In other words, the destructor of std::future will wait for the thread.

@KishoreG2396 4 года назад

@@Bisqwit I see. Does the destructor of the future only do that for async() calls, not any other calls?

@Bisqwit 4 года назад

That’s how I understand it.

@happyman_smiling 6 лет назад

hii what is your view on rust programming language.

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

I have tried it a bit when I made this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ex1iFZuUdJ4.html It feels clever and awkwardly stiff at the same time. Like Pascal, but better.

@happyman_smiling 6 лет назад

Bisqwit thanks for your quick reply, I played Prince of Persia and Aladdin many times on DOS in 1997-98 😀

@huyvole9724 6 лет назад

Oh my god sir. One week ... one week ... I try install curlpp library with Visual Studio 2017 but not work ....I'm so saddened

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

My condolences for you to have chosen to be stuck with a Microsoft system.

@huyvole9724 6 лет назад

Sir I installed MingW, can you teach me how to install curlpp from curl (I searched and I built curl success)?

@Bisqwit 6 лет назад

Where did google search for curlpp take you, and what happened as a result?

@huyvole9724 6 лет назад

I will install Linux ^^ so difficult on Windows

@huyvole9724 6 лет назад

Hi sir. I installed Cinnamon 19 and I setup curlpp by easy way. Hope you share skill about C++. You's the best C++

@WiresNStuffs 8 лет назад

Hello, You know when you are pushing elements to the downloaders vector. I have never seen code written inside like this. [p, l=line,++, &total]. Thats amazing I had no idea you could do that in C++ could you tell me what this is so I can research it please? Thanks, Dan

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

+NibbleBits The [variables to capture] part is part of a lambda function syntax, that begins with [], optionally has (parameters) and ends with {code to be executed;}. It is a function defined in the middle of code, and treated as a variable that can be passed to another function. You can find more information here: en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/lambda and here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_function#C.2B.2B_.28since_C.2B.2B11.29

@WiresNStuffs 8 лет назад

Thank you :)

@SkillTrailMalefiahs 8 лет назад

Bisqwit pls u have tutorial... how to used you editor?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

For the most part, the same way you would use Joe. The list of keys is available here. bisqwit.iki.fi/jutut/kuvat/programming_examples/e_editor/keys.txt But the best way to _use_ it is to uninstall it and use an editor that is _actually_ designed to be used by people. E is designed to be used as a video production middle-end.

@SkillTrailMalefiahs 8 лет назад

Thank you very much friend! Brother and I can run it on windows 10?

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

E? You can run it in a DOS emulator. It's a DOS program. Joe? You can run it under Cygwin or Mingw. Perhaps even under the touted "Windows Subsystem for Linux". For best experience, switch to an actual operating system that is not encumbered with closed source software and annoying license politics dictated by a money-making motivated vendor.

@SkillTrailMalefiahs 8 лет назад

I'm new to programming I do all this for hobby and because I want to learn for the moment I would not do anything for profit! ... (E.exe) I want to use it because I like the way you program and I want to practice as you do! I am from Venezuela!

@Bisqwit 8 лет назад

There is no magic whatsoever in the editor. It's just a screen on which you type. You can use Notepad++.