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How To Write Great Dialogue 

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What makes great dialogue? In this video essay I talk about subtext, purpose, and realism. The three pillars of what makes great dialogue.
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@smolspooder
@smolspooder 5 лет назад
"Here you go, keep the change. Oh hello doggie" 10/10 dialogue right here
@reddoguk7405
@reddoguk7405 4 года назад
I've heard about it tons but never actually braved sitting through it Tbh seen plenty of memes based on it though its awfulness is legend :)
@johnynoway9127
@johnynoway9127 4 года назад
You forgot the lauht
@layicorn
@layicorn 4 года назад
that doggie was cute tho
@gryotharian
@gryotharian 4 года назад
You’re my favorite customer
@portgasdann3389
@portgasdann3389 4 года назад
"Hello doggie" award winning dialogue
@aduckwithayoutubechannel
@aduckwithayoutubechannel 3 года назад
Remember: Sometimes it’s okay to sacrifice realism for what’s more interesting or immersive.
@gamingtime468
@gamingtime468 3 года назад
The subtext of "Sometimes" here is 90% of the time.
@xeraphyx7903
@xeraphyx7903 2 года назад
​@@gamingtime468 If anything, realism makes everything less interesting and immersive, everything must go through some theatrical exaggeration/romanticising to some extent, because life is boring, unfortunately. And interesting literature is just what we use to escape that boringness for a moment of ecstacy.
@oe542
@oe542 2 года назад
Good film is like good music. I should yank the emotions out of you.
@meatball7669
@meatball7669 2 года назад
@@xeraphyx7903 Exaggeration is why the mc actually does stuff. Nobody in real life would go off to fight a giant snake thing that can kill you with only eye contact, but Harry does. You always need to make your MC braver or less fearful than normal people will be (with some exceptions.)
@ericjohnson7234
@ericjohnson7234 2 года назад
depends on the genre
@nataliecameron
@nataliecameron 4 года назад
"there are no umms and errrs in dialogue" there absolutely should be though, it's realistic, and is hilarious
@imangiomo
@imangiomo 4 года назад
Um. .word.
@69mviewsnt
@69mviewsnt 4 года назад
@@imangiomo what? i mean.. what?
@mysticfellow9843
@mysticfellow9843 4 года назад
Lol, I agree. I say "um" and "err" all the time and I relate more with characters who don't speak perfectly, thus making it more believable.
@slimkt
@slimkt 4 года назад
Umm, what about- err, what about Jeff Goldblum?
@sammiller4536
@sammiller4536 4 года назад
But not as much as in reality, it's fiction after all.
@weesalikesmilktea4829
@weesalikesmilktea4829 5 лет назад
"It's hilariously bad because it's just so boring" My life: "I feel personally attacked"
@randomrandle9141
@randomrandle9141 3 года назад
No replies with one kay lykes? How?
@toasteduranium
@toasteduranium 3 года назад
I paused the video, looked at the comments, and read this one. Then I unpaused the video, and this part of the video immediately played.
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 года назад
With that pfp of yours, Sans feels personally attacked too.
@SkylarGlider
@SkylarGlider 3 года назад
Yes
@ericjohnson7234
@ericjohnson7234 2 года назад
life is all about ones experiences, so while one may find fishing to be utterly boring, they may find nascar to be fun, that is why opinion is utterly worthless. Its pointless.
@jordanhawesmusic
@jordanhawesmusic 5 лет назад
“He’s beginning to believe” -Morpheus “Your dentist’s name is crentist.” - Michael Scott Both moments of great tension, equally memorable.
@IavoidReality
@IavoidReality 5 лет назад
"Maybe that's why he became a dentist" - Dwight Schrute
@axrtbxby940
@axrtbxby940 4 года назад
LMFAOOOO
@levarmy4339
@levarmy4339 4 года назад
Azazel Dreciare 54? You’re rollin man don’t call yourself old yet
@joonaspenttila201
@joonaspenttila201 4 года назад
😂😂
@ninaa4192
@ninaa4192 3 года назад
What blows my mind about Tarantino is that he can have his characters talking about seemingly mundane things and yet the scene and dialogue will still be so engrossing. Pulp Fiction's Royale with Cheese and Reservoir Dog's Tipping scenes for example.
@obstmann7740
@obstmann7740 2 года назад
i think a large part of that is the way it’s shot. everyone knows the iconic shot of the close-up on Sam Jackson when he says “royale with cheese” or the hand gestures each other make while smoking or the framing of the car or the hallways. it’s engrossing because it has a funny scenario behind it that gives conflict and they’re acting casual.
@pranav288
@pranav288 2 года назад
ever gave someone a foot massage ?
@williamd2989
@williamd2989 2 года назад
They talked about burgers, foot massages and defenestration in the space of a few minutes and I was convinced of the whole thing.
@WeedSmoker2025
@WeedSmoker2025 2 года назад
I was thinking the same thing because in a another video this guy said dialogue is not a conversation but yet the conversation about the things in Europe (pulp fiction) seem like a normal conversation people will have
@ShebaFr
@ShebaFr Год назад
Bill's talk about comic books and Superman. His point being that Beatrix WILL never stop being that killer even if she settled down as a mother. I absolutely loved it.
@FailoReachForge
@FailoReachForge 5 лет назад
Good dialogue doesn't need to be realistic, it needs to get immersive. Dialogue needs to feel natural in respect to the character. I feel like some newer writers often fall into the trap of sacrificing their characters for the sake of their story.
@ihazmethodz7806
@ihazmethodz7806 4 года назад
The old Jesus technique.
@killanova2494
@killanova2494 4 года назад
gotta make it interesting
@killanova2494
@killanova2494 4 года назад
sam jack in pulp fiction, the merovingian in the matrix 2, gyllenhall nightcrawler dinner date scene, the end of godfather 1
@elvimartinez5629
@elvimartinez5629 4 года назад
last of us
@samhainsvolva194
@samhainsvolva194 3 года назад
Or to make the character "relatable". I've seen this often- Scripted looking dialogue that doesnt fit that character half bit.
@alangeorge5592
@alangeorge5592 5 лет назад
Joker's monologue in dark knight was just perfect and it was delivered even more perfectly by heath.
@kingposeidon4535
@kingposeidon4535 5 лет назад
Agreed. When the video discussed how the most iconic moments of dialogue happen at the climax of a conflict, I was surprised that this wasn't cited.
@ShiddyKong
@ShiddyKong 5 лет назад
I think the reason he didn't use it was that it was a monologue, not a dialogue
@owenperry7082
@owenperry7082 5 лет назад
“Madness is like gravity, all it takes is a little push” “I believe that whatever doesn’t kill you, simply makes you... stranger”
@tuptastic304
@tuptastic304 5 лет назад
But have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?
@sidmclean
@sidmclean 5 лет назад
"Wheres Harvey?" "Whats the time?" "Why does that matter?" "Well depending on the time, he could be in one place... or several." Thats brilliant subtexts.
@NRobertAlexander
@NRobertAlexander 4 года назад
Having a conversation with a human being at least once in your life is a good start.
@gamingtime468
@gamingtime468 3 года назад
That's rich coming from the one that wrote this comment.
@NRobertAlexander
@NRobertAlexander 3 года назад
@@gamingtime468 Oh please, stranger, do tell me how many conversations I've had in my life. The exact number. I'm waiting.
@applepie1272
@applepie1272 2 года назад
Whats a human being?
@redacted487
@redacted487 2 года назад
Introverts: I’m in danger
@rakawajdi8920
@rakawajdi8920 2 года назад
A good rule thumb to make realistic dialogue is to talk to humans! Thanks
@FilmThought
@FilmThought 5 лет назад
'Wilson' - Tom Hanks
@bigcuck4361
@bigcuck4361 5 лет назад
WIIILSOOOOOOOOON
@muzyczny.kosmos.rogala
@muzyczny.kosmos.rogala 5 лет назад
Yes, but he said many thinks by that "Wilson" XD
@im.jintan
@im.jintan 5 лет назад
Press F for my boi
@JoycenatorGaming
@JoycenatorGaming 5 лет назад
Pan P. R. Exactly. That one line has more subtext than some entire movies
@snek4913
@snek4913 5 лет назад
I cried
@DrShaym
@DrShaym 5 лет назад
To be fair to Anakin, it's possible he's saying hamfisted romance dialogue because he's trying to convince Padmé to love him, but he's really bad at being romantic because he's spent half his life in a monastery. If Lucas's goal was to make him look pathetic, he succeeded.
@SvartaSnuten
@SvartaSnuten 4 года назад
Isn't that the whole idea? I don't understand how this dude could bomb the scene so hard if not to squeeze in the "hey guys laugh at the fucking prequels heehaaw". One of the defining key points in the Star Wars saga is Padme's rejection of Anakin, leading to her death, leading to Luke living on Tatooine and not knowing of his sister Lea et cetera, et cetera. The subtext in this scene is that Anakin is desperate for her because he knows he's turning to the dark side of the force and whatnot. BUT NAAAAH THE PREQUELS SUCK OMG LET'S kiLL GErORgE LuCaS
@mr.safensound4238
@mr.safensound4238 4 года назад
Let's not forget George Lucas wanted to simplify the story in order that even 5 year olds could easily understand it. He made his priority for Star Wars to be readily accessible to young children. Hence this deliberately awkward dialogue from Anakin has to be very much 'on the nose'. Look at what Padme says to Anakin in response: "...No you listen! We live in a real world, come back to it. You're studying to become a Jedi, I'm... I'm a senator. If you follow your thoughts through to conclusion, it will take us to a place we cannot go, regardless of the way we feel about each other." The dialogue was meant to explain the situation as simply and literally as possible to innocent young children. Star Wars was never written to be realistic, rather dramatic and theatrical. It's not method acting, it's pastiche, a fairytale style opera about family, made for all ages, set in a galaxy far far far away.
@pig_cakes1368
@pig_cakes1368 4 года назад
Wait. Everybody gonna gloss over the fact that this is Dr Shaym??
@doctordeathdefying132
@doctordeathdefying132 4 года назад
There’s a theory that talks about how there’s no way that Padme naturally fell in love with Anakin. Anakin brainwashes her using the force. It’s a long shot, but it’s interesting
@mr.safensound4238
@mr.safensound4238 4 года назад
@@doctordeathdefying132 if Anakin had that 'power' he'd have used it again to turn Luke, Instead he had to watch helplessly as his son denys him, and prefers jumping to his death rather than to stand by his father's side. Wouldn't Anakin have used it on the Death Star, to get the location of the plans from Leia? Instead they attempt to use torture, and blackmail to try and get her to talk. Including blowing up her home planet? Then there's the common sense question like, if Padme had been mind tricked to 'love' him, wouldn't she be mind tricked to join him on the Dark Side? Yet they argued throughout the Prequels, and particularly in ROTS. On Mustafar Anakin wouldn't need to get angry with her, he'd just mind trick her again to join his side (and rule the galaxy?). It's established lore that mind tricks are very difficult to do, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon attempt it only after becoming experienced Masters. Luke only in ROTJ after finishing his training with Yoda. It only works some of the time, and ONLY on the weaker minded. Not Padme, who regularly demonstrates more self control and resolve than Anakin, she's stronger than Anakin. If anything it's Padme that controls him.
@sonosilence2247
@sonosilence2247 5 лет назад
The dialogue in the room is some of the best I've ever heard.
@Kromiball
@Kromiball 3 года назад
Oh hi sonosilence 224
@leonardodalongisland
@leonardodalongisland 3 года назад
I want to live where you do!!!!
@UKEDNHAT7
@UKEDNHAT7 3 года назад
"hi doggy"
@emiliam2279
@emiliam2279 3 года назад
so bad its good
@aburnoutfailurewithsomemem3085
@aburnoutfailurewithsomemem3085 2 года назад
“I did not hit her it’s not true it’s bullshit I did not hit her I did not.”
@kinga6347
@kinga6347 5 лет назад
Hello There -General Kenobi
@alanhiding1471
@alanhiding1471 5 лет назад
The perfect phrase
@guillegarcia7146
@guillegarcia7146 5 лет назад
@illana partidai of darkness in the valley We can live like jack and sally if we want Where you can always find me
@anantahandley
@anantahandley 5 лет назад
@@guillegarcia7146 And we'll have Halloween on Christmas And in the night we'll wish this never ends WE'LL WISH THIS NEVER ENDS 😢😢
@guillegarcia7146
@guillegarcia7146 5 лет назад
@@anantahandley where are you?? And I'M SO SORRY I cannot sleep I cannot dream tonight
@striker8961
@striker8961 5 лет назад
You shall not say GOODBYE
@agent6959
@agent6959 5 лет назад
"There are no umm and err in dialogue" Well you see.. umm.. dialogue.. err.. dialouge, Ah, finds a way.... umm.. well there it is.
@sithtyp8151
@sithtyp8151 5 лет назад
Seems like Jeff Goldblum is the exception to the rule.
@TheSlasherJunkie
@TheSlasherJunkie 5 лет назад
He cites The Social Network during that because the use of erms and uhs during that movie was the biggest challenge to the actors. Same with Jurassic Park. Jeff Goldblum added that for emphasis.
@Saga_Anserum
@Saga_Anserum 2 года назад
Obama, I didn't know you were British!
@aj5690
@aj5690 Год назад
Yeh, well, that's just like..umm..your opinion man
@ChatookaMusic
@ChatookaMusic 4 года назад
I was at a party with my friends listening to them have a conversation and it dawned on me at that moment _this real conversation would be considered horrible writing._ Then I saw the quarter pounder with cheese conversation in pulp fiction
@alltimegamer1343
@alltimegamer1343 3 года назад
Yeah, the beauty of "the quarter pounder with cheese" is that it's a thing that you or me would talk about with our homie
@LuneyTune72
@LuneyTune72 2 года назад
The point of that dialog is to show how much killing people means nothing to the characters, so little discussion about the murder that the most mundane conversation becomes the topic at hand. It’s character development too because it shows how Samuel L Jackson’s character finds himself to be deep and worldly rather than just some criminal. That whole conversation was a mislead to viewers too. It’s the beginning of the movie and we have no clue what it’s about yet or who these characters are. Then you learn visually that they are assassins. It’s a successful and great reveal. It establishes that the movie is not serious but it will also shock you. The different storylines each have different tones. Then you find out that they’re all connected but are not in order. Again, great reveal. This was Tarantino’s genius concept. Reveal information to the audience over the course of the film. He, as the director, was in full control and manipulated us without showing any of his cards or hinting at what he’d do next.
@myrobotfish
@myrobotfish 5 лет назад
When you have zero interest in writing any type of story, yet you still watch every video essay from The Closer Look because they're just that good.
@brenokrug7775
@brenokrug7775 5 лет назад
Honestly, watching these videos makes me want to write some stories, something that never crossed my mind before.
@night1952
@night1952 5 лет назад
Knowing how to write isn't only useful for writing but to be able to appreciate good writing and notice bad one.
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
Well, it also doesnt Hurt for dnd for example ^^
@Kittsuera
@Kittsuera 5 лет назад
or maybe your subconscious is preparing you to write a book in your sleep. You just don't know it. ;D
@fubarsheir5060
@fubarsheir5060 5 лет назад
Tru
@OnyxConflict
@OnyxConflict 5 лет назад
"You killed my father!" "Alternatively, is it possible that your father isn't dead?" "What?" "Perhaps what you heard isn't entirely true, and he survived?" "The hell are you on about?" "Maybe he's somewhere within the vicinity... somewhere not un-nearby?" "What are you saying?" "Luke... I'm not unlike nor not undissimilar to he who doesn't not, in reality, share 50% of your chromosomes." "I don't understand." "Subtext, Luke." "There are things which you say that confuse myself." "Ah, I see. Well, your mother and I had intercourse and I killed her and became a Sith lord." "Wait... you're my father?" "I'm not not not not not not not your un-father." "NOoooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOOoOOOoOOooOoOoOOOooOOooooo!!!!!!"
@opinionatedarsehole6495
@opinionatedarsehole6495 5 лет назад
Spot on
@striker8961
@striker8961 5 лет назад
Truly a work of genius why didnt george do it like this
@meris8486
@meris8486 5 лет назад
Yeah, sometimes QT's dialogue feels like he's really proud of how clever he is and wants to show off.
@kingchickenwing4887
@kingchickenwing4887 5 лет назад
@@meris8486 Who is "QT"?
@vyrothevirus5304
@vyrothevirus5304 5 лет назад
@@kingchickenwing4887 Quentin Tarantino? Honestly no idea what they mean.
@jinchoung
@jinchoung 4 года назад
i'd say that there are a few times in real life where our speech turns into dialog: - a first date - a job interview - trying to convince someone to do something (includes sales) generally, when conversation has actual stakes involved. if it's just two people shooting the shit as friends then that's not dialog. but i think we come to dialog in movies because we DO have real world analogs.
@desireandfire
@desireandfire 3 года назад
Fun fact people who watch lots of movies and shows tend to actually speak like they do in movies because they subconsciously incorporate them into their lives. So in actuality the more movies we watch the more realistic the dialogue becomes to us
@Saga_Anserum
@Saga_Anserum 2 года назад
You missed the best example: shower monologues/dialogues
@Saga_Anserum
@Saga_Anserum 2 года назад
@@desireandfire ohhh that's why I sound vaguely archaeic when I talk. it's the fantasy novels and movies
@jackxiao9702
@jackxiao9702 Год назад
A movie filled with stake after stake is boring too. Sometimes you want to see two characters shooting the shit, as long as there is purpose to the dialogue, like establishing character.
@OfficialNoCoast
@OfficialNoCoast 5 лет назад
Wouldn't that be funny if random things we said during life was weird foreshadowing?
@Kaiwala
@Kaiwala 5 лет назад
Hmm unfortunately most random things we say ends up immediately forgotten within the hour, so even if this was true we just wouldn't realise it.
@leoa9474
@leoa9474 5 лет назад
Honestly I had this kind of shit happen to me a few times, to the point me and a couple of friends joke that my life may be shitty, but it's very well written
@Til_I_Collapse
@Til_I_Collapse 5 лет назад
This thread is an example of writing good dialogue (except this post, obviously). Kudos!
@OfficialNoCoast
@OfficialNoCoast 5 лет назад
@@Kaiwala Thatd be the beauty of it. Cleverly disguised as random forgetful dialogue we end up foreshadowing later events.
@skateordie002
@skateordie002 5 лет назад
It is frequently the case. My little sister and I would joke about how we seemed nothing like our father. Our father ended up not being our biological father.
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420 5 лет назад
But The Room is the pinnacle of phenomenal dialogue:(
@conradschmidt251
@conradschmidt251 5 лет назад
Oh hi Mark.
@krystalshelby
@krystalshelby 5 лет назад
You're tearing me apart, Lisa!
@randomicus4782
@randomicus4782 5 лет назад
Why, Lisa, why, WHY?!
@kulkan1
@kulkan1 5 лет назад
It seems to me like you're the expect, BSJ
@ariatolouei5908
@ariatolouei5908 5 лет назад
Fantastic videos, please do a video on why lovecraftian horror isn't made into movies or tv shows.
@davidkonevky7372
@davidkonevky7372 3 года назад
As much as realism is a must in dialogue, a dialogue that feels sharp and linear can be beautiful to the ears, especially in ending climaxes. This is cinema after all, we don't make movies because we want to recreate life, we make movies because we want to take the rules of reality, and twist them in a way that creates an entertaining, thoughtful, masterpiece.
@niomeghostdreamer3427
@niomeghostdreamer3427 5 лет назад
That moment you realize that almost every line of dialogue uttered by The Joker in The Dark Night is iconic... *Clapping in admiration*
@iBloodxHunter
@iBloodxHunter 5 лет назад
*Joker clapping meme.
@gryotharian
@gryotharian 4 года назад
But you know, so is every line by palpatine in revenge of the sith... so maybe it’s more to do with quotability than quality
@ttime441
@ttime441 4 года назад
@@gryotharian Ironic
@PriestlyBlock67
@PriestlyBlock67 4 года назад
Every line said by Bane during the Dark Knight Rises is even more iconic than the joker ones and are memes on the internet
@erik_gerhard
@erik_gerhard 4 года назад
PriestlyBlock67 Bane’s lines are equally as dramatic as tdk’s Joker’s, granted, but are they as iconic?
@chuchojuarez95
@chuchojuarez95 5 лет назад
"Oh You've decided to approach me?.." "I cant kick your ass unless I get closer" Top tier dialog Jojo
@LeoVallo
@LeoVallo 5 лет назад
My reaction reading this was: Yes! yes! yes! yes! yes! YES!
@yotsubairl
@yotsubairl 5 лет назад
*y a r e y a r e d a z e*
@SycosenMerihem
@SycosenMerihem 5 лет назад
NIGERUNDAYO SMOKEY!
@muhammadhashir6136
@muhammadhashir6136 3 года назад
The point about no ums or ers is stupid. It’s important to show a character’s power dynamic in a scene, and not everyone becomes super confident to deliver serious dialogue, it’s important to show their level and display their emotions, wether it’s discomfort or a lack of confidence or just plain confusion, it will be only natural to incorporate those elements in your dialogue. Same goes for witty remarks, that can only work if you have established your character to be passionate about the thing that is being talked about, or smart or witty in general.
@brianna6377
@brianna6377 3 года назад
It is a matter of intent. In most cases of text, the 'umm's serve a purpose. Whereas most regular conversation (at least as far as I have observed), drops that little crutch at least once every other minute. That is why professional speakers sound far more credible when they speak without that crutch.
@thereccher8746
@thereccher8746 2 года назад
The uhms and pauses add fat to the script. Cut them out. Every word has to be impactful and develop your story.
@elijahwinchester6690
@elijahwinchester6690 2 года назад
@@thereccher8746 that's just overdoing it. not every conversation somebody has is going to be extremely meaningful, and a lot of time when a scene includes heavy themes, characters themselves should still be allowed to be simple. not everyone is a poet. you can add meaning to a natural, plain conversation; you don't need to make every line clear spoken and deliberate. like a girl with abandonment issues could be asked by someone who's important to her whether she will stay in that night, as she usually goes out. say, she responds that she will and asks about him in return; he answers that he spends every night in. she's the one who hasn't been around, while he's been there waiting for her every time she returned home. this isn't insanely 'deep' for the characters, who aren't likely to outright explain everything they feel, but it carries a meaning.
@Mii..
@Mii.. Год назад
@@elijahwinchester6690 Yes, I agree.
@Mii..
@Mii.. Год назад
Facts! You're overdoing it, and some characters can sound flat without it. Especially if you want to convey what kind of character they are.
@JustFredrik
@JustFredrik 5 лет назад
Don't make realistic dialogue. Make bealivable dialogue.
@Madanth0ny
@Madanth0ny 5 лет назад
JustFredrik what makes something believable?
@JustFredrik
@JustFredrik 5 лет назад
@@Madanth0ny Hard question and if there was a solid short awnser for that then the key to writing dialogue would be that.
@WaffleAD
@WaffleAD 5 лет назад
what makes believable dialouge?
@theamazingzim3208
@theamazingzim3208 4 года назад
Realistic dialogue is realistic and by making it realistic it's alike to dialogue you'd hear everyday. so it's believable? idk
@tiagodarkpeasant
@tiagodarkpeasant 4 года назад
@@WaffleAD it must fit the tone of the scene, being witty when you are talking to a crime boss and you are not an action hero or a martial artist
@En.GergerRacc
@En.GergerRacc 5 лет назад
10:12 "There are no 'umms' or 'errrs' in real dialogue." Rick and Morty: *Laughs in hidden*
@DH_Artist
@DH_Artist 4 года назад
Gavin Smith Jesse Eisenberg: hides behind tree.
@alexmilchev5395
@alexmilchev5395 4 года назад
He is not entirely correct. There are umms and errs in movies, but they still follow these rules. If a umm is written in the script it is, because it's a character trait.
@Mecharnie_Dobbs
@Mecharnie_Dobbs 3 года назад
In 'Limitless' there are 'um's and 'ah's in dialogue. To show when characters are accessing the usual 10% of their brains and not the full 100%
@Grassroots_Hegemon
@Grassroots_Hegemon 5 лет назад
“I see your Schwartz is as big as mine! Now let’s see how well you handle it!”-Dark Helmet
@MrParkerman6
@MrParkerman6 4 года назад
Now you see that Evil will always triumph, because Good is dumb!!!!!!
@MrPomegranX
@MrPomegranX 5 лет назад
“I am really sad right now, I need a hug.”
@mohawmmadmahdi4618
@mohawmmadmahdi4618 5 лет назад
MrPomegranX [Matoi] here u go 💜
@OmegaStray
@OmegaStray 5 лет назад
Until you start using subtext, no hugs for you!
@MrPomegranX
@MrPomegranX 5 лет назад
Kave Kaviani Thanks
@ooohsexy846
@ooohsexy846 5 лет назад
@@MrPomegranX pssht hug your self actually here ya go, merry valentines
@MrPomegranX
@MrPomegranX 5 лет назад
joshuabooth top10andinfo Haha, thanks
@jacobb.9181
@jacobb.9181 5 лет назад
Trying to add jokes in a script and making the dialogue seem like actual dialogue is one of the hardest things ever, I've tried it before.
@mohdamirulsyafikamat1814
@mohdamirulsyafikamat1814 5 лет назад
Trying to make a VN right now. I can vouch you on that.
@SavCorp
@SavCorp 5 лет назад
I’m trying to start an animate series right now. You are very correct.
@tftsauce2555
@tftsauce2555 5 лет назад
It’s not too hard for me, because I normally add witty responses to my own conversations. So I’ll just add something I might respond to something
@josharntt
@josharntt 5 лет назад
@@tftsauce2555 You might not be as funny as you think yourself to be, definitely be sure that you have other people's opinions, or else it might turn out like the Star Wars prequels.
@tehyat8956
@tehyat8956 5 лет назад
A Choking Fish if you’re funny, just write how you talk
@moe3938
@moe3938 4 года назад
3:37 is that man really eating fruit with a knife and fork
@max.cr33p
@max.cr33p 4 года назад
Maybe it's a weird alien meat fruit
@juliendacoolien3454
@juliendacoolien3454 4 года назад
@@max.cr33p But it's literally just a normal Earth pear. We even see it get cut open later and it's white and has seeds. I have no idea why George Lucas went through the effort (for lack of a better word) to make the fruit CGI yet still have it be just a normal pear.
@thedeliveryboy1123
@thedeliveryboy1123 4 года назад
Hope Bryant god I don't wanna think about cutting a fruit and it's just meat
@theman-delorean200
@theman-delorean200 3 года назад
@@thedeliveryboy1123 oh man that’s a disturbing though
@pat7785
@pat7785 5 лет назад
Caution: subtext does not work in a relationship
@qualityfreak9611
@qualityfreak9611 5 лет назад
Doubt
@winesgone
@winesgone 5 лет назад
zexna Tell that to every woman.
@Torihappyness
@Torihappyness 5 лет назад
😂😂😂😂
@reynemanzano
@reynemanzano 5 лет назад
@@rnindless TRUE. lmao
@cjtrules1
@cjtrules1 5 лет назад
In relationships, direct communication is always best. Obviously subtext can be interpreted differently which is not good in a relationship.
@googleguy-ft8xh
@googleguy-ft8xh 5 лет назад
There is TONS of subtext in the line “No, I am your father” It shows Vader’s ruthlessness, as he lets his own son die. This single line increases the personal stakes in the hero and the threat of the villain tenfold. He reveals one single piece of exposition, but the weight that has on the story before and after is immense.
@gamingtime468
@gamingtime468 3 года назад
Subtext is what the character themself *means.* What you are talking about is the dialogue's purpose: and in it, like you said, it basically recontextualises the whole conflict. It is indeed great dialogue.
@maddieb.4282
@maddieb.4282 Год назад
Subtext is referring to the CHARACTER’s intent.
@kevenalbers
@kevenalbers Год назад
I caught this too. To me, this line holds a massive amount of subtext. Though I posit that Vader is upending Luke's worldview with this line. Vader is actually telling Luke that everything he knew about the world was a lie. The people he trusted lied to him. Even brings his morals into question. This was a character-changing line of subtext (as well as a nice twist). That's why it's good IMO. Though if it was proceeded by Vader saying: "No, everything you've been told is a lie because I am your father." Then we enter the world of "on the nose" bad dialogue. Anyway, I thought this was a big one to gloss over in a video about subtext making up the crux of good dialogue.
@jackxiao9702
@jackxiao9702 Год назад
He doesn't let his son die though, he just witnesses his son reject his offer and let himself fall. Vader also can see a bit into the future (force powers), so he probably can foresee that his son will survive.
@Derekivery
@Derekivery Год назад
Agreed. Vader isn’t just stating paternity, he’s (trying to) get Luke to join his side by showing Luke first Obi-Wan lied, and second Luke is more like Vader than any other Jedi
@draco89123
@draco89123 4 года назад
"I am your father." has a lot of subtext though. Luke thought of Vader as the ultimate evil and representation of the empire, someone who killed his family. Vader shatters the notion of him being an outsider and that he was his father, meaning Luke has the evil within him too, and that his father went to the dark side, Ben also lie-protected him. In addition, it shows that Vader wants to convert Luke by indirectly training him by toying with him in that lightsaber duel and finally playing "we're family" card, along with that appeal to rule the galaxy as father and son. All in four words.
@Michael-McCollum
@Michael-McCollum 2 года назад
That’s not subtext. That’s meaning. Subtext is what the character is subtly saying
@redenavari
@redenavari 7 месяцев назад
@@Michael-McCollum I think you mean context, not meaning. The meaning of "I am your father" is that Vader is Luke's father. More to the point, though, text + context = subtext. It's not limited to the character speaking the line.
@Michael-McCollum
@Michael-McCollum 6 месяцев назад
@@redenavari you’re right. It is context
@ravonne6308
@ravonne6308 5 лет назад
I loved Braking bad's dialogs, because they felt real. It was littered with ehrms and half sentenses, but had great lines and weight. So even a more realistic approach can be done masterfully, even in a drama! :)
@JishinimaTidehoshi
@JishinimaTidehoshi 5 лет назад
What about Better Call Saul?
@marcusjenkins5371
@marcusjenkins5371 5 лет назад
the wire has exceptionally better dialogue
@andrewchen9097
@andrewchen9097 5 лет назад
@@marcusjenkins5371 For me Breaking Bad's has the better dialogue. The more people told me about Breaking Bad the more I was adamant I had no interest in ever watching it. It simply was not my cup of tea, but when I watched it the dialogue pulled me in, so much so I watched the entire series. The Wire on the other hand I wanted to watch, but try as I might I just couldn't get in to it.
@marcusjenkins5371
@marcusjenkins5371 5 лет назад
@@andrewchen9097 You have to wash both series man. The wire has more compelling characters, the story is more complex and is well written. I say this having watched both shows at least twice
@andrewchen9097
@andrewchen9097 5 лет назад
@@marcusjenkins5371 I agree, and I have watched both, but that is my point. Breaking Bad is a genre I don't like, and not as well written story as The Wire, but in spite of this the dialogue still managed to hook me in.
@thisisfyne
@thisisfyne 5 лет назад
Most dialogue should have subtext, fit the theme, and grow the characters BUT direct lines like "I am your father", which are a huge revelation/twist, should leave no ambiguity ;)
@TuanNguyen-ko9wz
@TuanNguyen-ko9wz 5 лет назад
I still think it has subtext, which comprises what Luke knew about his dad through Obi Wan and what Luke experiences in the cave.
@makeshift_battlefield_music
@makeshift_battlefield_music 5 лет назад
@@TuanNguyen-ko9wz I agree with you. "I am your father" is loaded with subtext. Proof: Luke was motivated by revenge, he wanted to fight Vader because he believed that Vader killed his father. The theme of Luke's struggle was one of revenge against the empire and Vader. Vader on the other hand was motivated not by revenge but by LOVE when he discovered that he had a son. Discovering that he had a son was what allowed Vader to see through the cloud of the Emperors power because it brought him back to his former identity as Anakin. He wanted to bring Luke to the dark side, so felt that he would defuse Luke's motivation for revenge by revealing that he IS his father. In truth, Anakin was not killed by Vader, he was killed by the emperor- killed when the emperor took him away from LOVE by telling him that he killed Padme, thus turning him to the dark side. Ultimately, love for his son was what caused Vader to return to the light side of the force at the end. Only Jedi can become a force ghost so Anakin's redemption is very clear. The fact of the matter is that Luke could not have destroyed the emperor, only Anakin could. Therefore he fulfilled the prophecy that he was the chosen one, because the defeat of the empire would not be possible without him turning back to the light side- something that was only possible thru his encounter with Luke when he rediscovered love. Lots of subtext there. It is not just a 'dramatic twist', it is the crux whereby the resolution of the story relies entirely.
@RobinBonhomme
@RobinBonhomme 5 лет назад
@@TuanNguyen-ko9wz Agreed. It was a direct line which advanced the plot but created an implication which influenced Luke's character development. A cognitive dissonance in which the movie afterward had a whole section focused on him fighting with the idea that he could turn to the dark side just as easily. That he isn't far removed from evil. I do think the hallucinations in Dagobah were a little too heavy handed though to show this inner turmoil. I do think there were better lines in other movies to use because although Star Wars is a good movie, the dialogue isn't fantastic in any of them really. I personally think the line from Taxi Driver in which he says his driving record is "Clean. Really clean. Like my conscience" would have been a better choice for dialogue which seems direct but has subtext as the plot moves along
@TheRedHaze3
@TheRedHaze3 5 лет назад
@@makeshift_battlefield_music The line serves multiple purposes but there's no subtext. Not as The Closer Look defined it - being what the character means minus what they actually said. There is nothing Vader meant that he didn't also say in that line.
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 5 лет назад
It's worth pointing out, that the General Convention is to put subtext to dialogue... Meaning there IS space to "break the rule" so long as you find meaningful points and purpose in doing so. AND absolutely AVOID over-doing it. Again, Comedy, allows for the purposes of "being funny" the breaking of any and all such rules or conventions... That's exactly what sets comedy apart, that the writer has practically unlimited license to break rules, ruin formats, interchange the formal with informal, and anything else really... SO LONG AS IT'S FUNNY. The difficulty with "good" Comedy, is keeping in mind that it's strictly the FUNNY business, not the You business or the Me business. Nobody gets allowed the ego without having it torn to pieces and ripped from under them, BECAUSE it's funny to do so. ;o)
@a-10warthog78
@a-10warthog78 4 года назад
When you realize the talk scene in The Silence of the Lambs is a more intense fight scene than the Casablanca sequence in John Wick Chapter 3: Parabellum
@torysaccount5753
@torysaccount5753 5 лет назад
I think “I am your father“ is so powerful *because* it is so simple. It is a plot twist and no plot twist is being conveyed by subtext. It has to be a punch that hits everyone like a truck. In the scene, we have the duel between Luke and Vader. It is full of tension, but also has a lot of subtext. A good fight tells a story as well and here we have the evil lord having barely any struggle and the young hero trying to stand a chance. He gets defeated and is full of anger, fear and hate, about to be killed. Then, the evil lord offeres him the dark side, abandoning the legacy of his father. The stakes are clear, when BAM! Lucas slapps everyone in the face!
@asel1124
@asel1124 5 лет назад
Actually we have to thank Irving Kershner for that one!
@homer_thompson5090
@homer_thompson5090 5 лет назад
It would have been more powerful with subtext. For example: Luke, I am not your unfather!
@SycrosD4
@SycrosD4 5 лет назад
Tarantino is a beast with dialogue. Same with Aaron Sorkin.
@randomicus4782
@randomicus4782 5 лет назад
king does the best lines tho. at least he did, i think he quit the drugs
@nicoheintel3212
@nicoheintel3212 5 лет назад
Inglourius basterds dialogue was mindblowing and suspense at its best!
@toshibazenith1966
@toshibazenith1966 5 лет назад
@@randomicus4782 nose clams
@mg6945
@mg6945 5 лет назад
Aaron Sorkin’s scripts are over 300-400 pages. That’s how much dialogue he uses. He’s crazy
@apullcan
@apullcan 5 лет назад
I'd add The Coen Brothers to the list too. Maybe not AS good as Tarantino, but definitely the same league.
@jhizzlefoshizzle6406
@jhizzlefoshizzle6406 4 года назад
Anakin "I'm in agony" Me watching that scene "me too bub, me too."
@kmig42
@kmig42 7 месяцев назад
hehe
@Stopitpls
@Stopitpls 5 лет назад
Wtf, hes getting flowers for his loyal Lisa obviously
@legrandhanf
@legrandhanf 5 лет назад
I think it also shows how good his life is. People like him and he likes the world.
@Maerahn
@Maerahn 5 лет назад
@@legrandhanf And that he's the flower shop lady's favourite customer! Even though she didn't recognise him at first with those deviously-disguisely dark glasses, which *completely* distract the mind from the weirdly-fitting suit, semi-Transylvanian accent and long Goth-tresses.
@ez-cg8zf
@ez-cg8zf 5 лет назад
yOu ArE teArINg mE A PpArT liSa
@LieFieLiFi
@LieFieLiFi 5 лет назад
Anakins cheesy dialogue in episode 2, I view, is an example of how emotionally stunted he is as a result of growing up with the jedi order.
@SHiTJuFro743
@SHiTJuFro743 5 лет назад
I actually would have loved if this was the purpose: characterizing him with naivete, and a melodramatic sense for romance and attachment. It would have been masterful writing if Padme responded at that point incredulously, "Who taught you to talk like that?? Did you think that was what I wanted to hear?" This would have been a natural way to seed the idea that he is, on some level, socially stunted due to his upbringing in an order of space monks through subtext.
@5jwiqiojwio217
@5jwiqiojwio217 5 лет назад
@@SHiTJuFro743 i would have loved that
@thehmc
@thehmc 4 года назад
Can everyone stop trying to use fictional reasons to explain why real world writing sucks? There's no imaginary justification for shit writing.
@thehmc
@thehmc 4 года назад
@@thesymphonyoflife3950 Dialogue isn't supposed to be realistic. If it was realistic, it would be tangential and go one forever. There's no good excuse for bad dialogue.
@horuslv8
@horuslv8 4 года назад
It was episode 3 dialogue that got me. When Anakin and Obi-Wan were fighting. Towards the end Obi-Wan says "Anakin, Chancellor Palpatine is evil.", then Anakin like the fucking nerd he is pushes up his glasses and says "Umm, actually, in my point of view, the jedi are evil.". Way to ruin a good fight, throw in shitty dialogue.
@nicke.424
@nicke.424 3 года назад
I remember reading in a screenwriting book that a good way to see how conversations normally flow and to apply it in your dialogue is to analyze how you talk to other people
@nictheartist
@nictheartist Год назад
Also read out the dialogue out loud. Something that sounded great in your head doesn't always come across s such when spoken aloud.
@SuigaRou
@SuigaRou 5 лет назад
What are you on about? In that scene in The Room, we learned that Johnny likely has a girlfriend through his need to buy flowers. We learned that he's a pretty nice guy cause he took the time to greet the dog and told the clerk to keep the change.. And we learned that people like him because the clerk went out of her way to tell him he's her favorite customer. All that character building in less than ten seconds. Truly a work of genius.
@Dead4911
@Dead4911 3 года назад
we also learned that he is a master of disguise through the clerk saying she didn't recognize him at first. (which would have come into play with the vampire subplot which was cut.)
@auntienyannyan
@auntienyannyan 3 года назад
This is old but it’s awful because we could convey him being kind and favorite without using dialogue in a far better way. Have him see a bouquet of flowers so expensive, have him check his wallet and he has just enough money to cover it, cut to him walking with the bought flowers > kind, selfless. That dialogue wastes time that can be spent building conflict and better plot points. To further show he’s kind and likable have him make someone’s day by giving them a flower. All the character development with no wasted dialogue/time.
@Dead4911
@Dead4911 3 года назад
@@auntienyannyan no because it is showing that he is very good and being disguised, that is one of his vampire abilities.
@SJPlays_
@SJPlays_ 5 лет назад
"the beginning of the end of the end of the beginning has begun" - the grand budapest hotel (2014) on of the best dialogues in history in my opinion
@lillypfeilsticker1309
@lillypfeilsticker1309 4 года назад
"I'm fine" is the Thanos of subtext
@thatsabingo6695
@thatsabingo6695 3 года назад
I’m stupid what does that mean
@SkittlesInYourHand
@SkittlesInYourHand 3 года назад
@@thatsabingo6695 He just means nothing has more subtext than an "I'm fine" when someone's obviously not
@applepie1272
@applepie1272 3 года назад
"R u good dawg?" "Yeah,im fine" "No ur fucking not"
@thedarkjw6219
@thedarkjw6219 2 года назад
The darkseid
@ClintLoweTube
@ClintLoweTube 5 лет назад
Dialogue is natural speech with purpose and panache.
@ananimeplace.3808
@ananimeplace.3808 5 лет назад
Yeah but I can quote more lines from The Room than from any Tarantino movie
@enotsnavdier6867
@enotsnavdier6867 5 лет назад
Therefore: The Room > Entire QT catalouge
@timothyw98
@timothyw98 5 лет назад
You are tearing me apart Lisa.
@ujjwalmishra8962
@ujjwalmishra8962 5 лет назад
how many times have u seen the room
@arnoluyten3476
@arnoluyten3476 5 лет назад
Oh hai, Oda
@BlindGardener
@BlindGardener 5 лет назад
Anyway Oda, how is Luffys sex life?
@herschelschueler
@herschelschueler 2 года назад
God the way you described the first encounter between Hannibal and Clarice is exactly how I feel about it. A conversation which says so much more than what is being spoken.
@ericglenn9984
@ericglenn9984 5 лет назад
"They point a Gun at them and start reciting bible verses?" the funniest thing a YT'er ever said for some reason.
@ArtfulDodger566
@ArtfulDodger566 4 года назад
I laughed so hard at that scene. Like wtf! A bible thumping gangster who is unabashedly a cold blooded killer.
@AnnoyingMoose
@AnnoyingMoose 4 года назад
But that dialog was not actually from the Bible.
@pinkajou656
@pinkajou656 3 года назад
Hilarious.
@travellergreen6559
@travellergreen6559 5 лет назад
I’ve always felt that Christopher Nolan (as a director) has always had that issue you pointed out: a desire to express his theme openly through dialogue when it never needed it. What always came to mind for me was the scene in The Dark Knight when the Joker’s plan with the ferries fails, and Batman says: “What were you trying to prove? That deep down, everyone’s as ugly as you?” As though we ever needed that piece of dialogue. For one, Joker made his plans abundantly clear in the interrogation scene, and two, the scene itself (through visuals) illustrated the idea perfectly. It’s almost as if sometimes, Nolan wants us as an audience to know that he fully realises his ideas or something like that. Little lines like those are scene-breakers for me. Appreciate you pointing it out though; epic video man.
@migueldelgadillo9673
@migueldelgadillo9673 5 лет назад
I completely agree with you, but I think he does that very intentionally, how explicit he is with his messages. He wants to try to take elusive and challenging concepts and make them as accessible to the average joe to give the illusion of "intelligence." That's how he survives and thrives in the mainstream world. Makes you feel the smarter for it, but the trick is he's very direct about feeding you what you need to know.
@night1952
@night1952 5 лет назад
His writting is very deliberate, he spells out everything so no one is left out, he assumes his audience are morons and that's exactly why his movies are popular, it makes the viewer feel smart becase they understood the movie. On the other hand, people that'd get the message feel patronized, but those are a minority so it doesn't matters.
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
Arent you a little bit harsh or on the negative Side?
@travellergreen6559
@travellergreen6559 5 лет назад
BeThomsen Not at all; just a guy with an opinion. I’m not trying to make out like they’re not intelligent films or that the people who watched and love them to bits are unintelligent. It was just interesting for me to see the video address it as an idea, as I’ve never really seen people discuss it before, even though I’ve had it in mind for a couple of years.
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
@@travellergreen6559 you werent even that "harsh", more like the comments under your one. ^^
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 4 года назад
About Star Wars Episode 2: Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman decided to play a joke on Lucas, and read their lines as if they had no acting skills. Lucas liked it, and put that scene in the movie.
@AvatarWindy
@AvatarWindy 3 года назад
DUDE. WHAT.
@euphoric1183
@euphoric1183 3 года назад
This must be wrong lol
@FPSIreland2
@FPSIreland2 3 года назад
If this is true it changes everything
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 года назад
@@FPSIreland2 I think it was only the scenes on Naboo, or something like that.
@leonardodalongisland
@leonardodalongisland 3 года назад
Chrsitensen was so bad in that film that I walked out on it. He's slightly better than a box of Crayons-not a joke
@mnm8818
@mnm8818 5 лет назад
so Game of Thrones/ Song of Fire & Ice is 100% subtext. Drax from Guardians of Galaxy is 100% no subtext
@samsung4360
@samsung4360 3 года назад
Well yes amigo.
@Boxsteam
@Boxsteam 5 лет назад
"I need a weapon" "Sir, finishing this fight" "Relax, don't want to piss this thing off" "Thought I'll shoot my way out, mix things up a little" "I thought there won't be any cameras" "That's not going to happen" "No, I think we're just getting started" I swear, this character's almost every line is always golden
@mrplague2270
@mrplague2270 3 года назад
Masterchief
@Captianmex1C0
@Captianmex1C0 3 года назад
Until 5, "Negative infinity" "Thank you Kelly" "Cortana please" This is sierra 117 to Blue team do you copy" "Fred no" His lines sound like generic Military Talk
@johnleonard9102
@johnleonard9102 2 года назад
"To give the Covenant back their bomb."
@jp3813
@jp3813 4 года назад
You should do a video where you compare & contrast the writing styles of the most revered dialogue writers like Quentin Tarantino, Aaron Sorkin, David Mamet, etc...
@Lalle524
@Lalle524 5 лет назад
"How often do you see someone get so angry they point a gun at someone and start reciting bible verses" *Heavy Father Anderson breathing*
@Adorni
@Adorni 5 лет назад
Lallepop Lord of Ahegao Not quite. Anderson would be pointing a bayonet blade at you, and throwing in some Boondocks Saints references along with them.
@gannongarfin1634
@gannongarfin1634 5 лет назад
Adorni true
@alexanderguest759
@alexanderguest759 5 лет назад
Great video, but I disagree with one tiny bit, or rather I think that it requires a little expansion... I Personally (and this may just be me) believe that dialogue (and most other aspects of story telling in general) shouldn't be realistic, or above realistic as you suggest, necessarily but faithful to the universe of the story itself. Look at Wes Anderson: he doesn't write vaguely realistic dialogue, but it is consistent with the tones of his films. It isn't realism, or degrees of realism that are important, but verisimilitude, in my opinion. Like I say, I loved the video, keep up the great work!
@MaxToddUniverse
@MaxToddUniverse 5 лет назад
okay but there are so many awkward pauses in my conversations that it always feels like I'm in a Wes Anderson movie
@MindyPeltier
@MindyPeltier 5 лет назад
Great instruction! "Subtext is the difference between what a character says and what a character means. Subtext is the "show don't tell" applied to dialogue. It is what the character is really saying, minus the words they speak. Conversation is not dialogue. The two are entirely separate things...write dialogue that feels so real to the audience that they believe it to be authentic, even though there is very little real about it. A real conversation is like a winding river...never even completed...but a good dialogue exchange is like a train track...that serves the master purpose of the scene and builds towards that final resolution."
@tale7955
@tale7955 5 лет назад
He recommends a book... Me: The subtext says "it´s an ad"
@JPage-wl5em
@JPage-wl5em 5 лет назад
As the wise videogamedunkey once said, “Why do I even exist?”
@divine.j
@divine.j 4 года назад
Dialogue is about the character. Not the conversation. It is about the relationship. The gestures and mannerisms. The feeling behind the spoken words.
@imyoubutbalder
@imyoubutbalder 5 лет назад
Fantastic video as usual, this one came at a good time for me. I'd argue, though, that you're wrong about the moment you talk about in Empire, I feel that not only was Vader revealing to Luke that he is his father, but also that Ben, one of the last bastions of hope for Luke, lied to him about it. Not sure if that made sense, its not much, but it's there. bUt tHat'S JusT a ThEoRy
@MaxRavenclaw
@MaxRavenclaw 5 лет назад
I have to disagree with the dialogue you showed from The Room serving no purpose. I believe the idea was to show how Johnny was super popular and a great guy that everyone loved, basically a Gary Stu. The dialogue and scene was still terrible, though.
@TheCloserLook
@TheCloserLook 5 лет назад
I would argue that if a line of dialogue can be cut it, in the grand scheme, has zero purpose, even if purpose was truly intended for it. Those lines were 100% unnecessary, even if Tommy had a desired meaning when creating them, so I'd argue their lack of purpose, or perhaps relevancy to the story, is why they are at their core bad.
@urgon6321
@urgon6321 5 лет назад
@@TheCloserLook, maybe arranging the lines in correct order would make it a bit better? On the other hand actors who can't act would make any dialogue sound awfully bad...
@RickJaeger
@RickJaeger 5 лет назад
some of it was, but most of it didn't serve that purpose. only two of those lines had purpose, I'd say: 1) "a dozen red roses please" -- showing that he was buying roses for his gf, that he's a romantic, which she later shows she doesn't appreciate; and 2) "you're my favorite customer" -- showing that he's well-liked by the shop-owner, implying he's recognized and well-liked by lots of people. but obviously they're clunky, and actually i think the second one is oddly contradicted by the part where she says she didn't recognize him with his sunglasses on.
@urgon6321
@urgon6321 5 лет назад
If we give the screenwriter more credit (much, much more, even more than Greece got from EU), then maybe the subtext of this dialogue was this: "Who is this fruitcakeanyway? Oh well, I'll be nice to him so he'll spend more next time.".
@johnlewis9158
@johnlewis9158 5 лет назад
@@TheCloserLook your video would have been a lot better had you shown a few scenes from a man for all seasons which in my humble opinion and many others has finest dialogue of any film ever produced. Lets be honest there aren't that many films such AMFAS where almost every line of dialogue is a tribute to the English language
@Brilchan
@Brilchan 3 года назад
The flower shop scene in The Room is AMAZING and that dead pan delivery I adore it best dialogue ever EVER I SAY!
@treyhull7036
@treyhull7036 5 лет назад
Big rip he didn’t mention Obi-Wan telling Anakin when he had the high ground.
@directorkid3131
@directorkid3131 5 лет назад
Oh yes that's the best line of dialogue ever written
@drakeunderscoremason
@drakeunderscoremason 5 лет назад
Just get out of class and BAM! This popped up right as I open RU-vid. Hell yeah!! I love your videos, and so does my Creative Writing professor!
@TheCloserLook
@TheCloserLook 5 лет назад
Thanks, I'm glad to know he/she likes them as well :)
@joshuaolian1245
@joshuaolian1245 Год назад
“I am your father” has lots of subtext. It represents a shift from our hero having descended from a martyr to having descended from evil. For Vader personally, it means “You will join me if you have any sense” And for Luke it means he has to reconcile this
@oliverford5367
@oliverford5367 Год назад
I think what Closer Look is saying is that it's on the nose. It's purely literal. Whereas he's told us to to show not tell, and there should generally be a difference between the spoken words and the underlying meaning. Here he's pointing out that sometimes plain, literal dialogue is necessary
@InVinoVeratas
@InVinoVeratas 5 лет назад
3:30 for a second I though this scene was in _“Godfather III”_ partially because my glasses were dirty so I was internally reading Anakin’s line in an italian/godfather-esq accent (because I thought it was godfather and because I was listening this video on my mobile) _“I’ma haunted by da kiss I did not-a deserve-a”_
@purrgundy
@purrgundy 3 года назад
The accent is so spot on my goodness that is a skill you have here
@witetrashgod2547
@witetrashgod2547 5 лет назад
I LOVED interstellar. But that line about love transcending space and time was absolute dogshit
@Susman-mb6hq
@Susman-mb6hq 5 лет назад
True, but it's unfair calling Nolan an inexperienced writer, as he has arguably written some of the best movies out there (Batman Trilogy, Rest of Interstellar, Inception etc.)....
@riddlemethis2610
@riddlemethis2610 5 лет назад
@@Susman-mb6hq he never went to film school tho. He studied English
@vp3841
@vp3841 5 лет назад
It's one of my absolute favorite movies but I want to throw all that bullshit about love out of it so badly - it cheapens the movie.
@reddoguk7405
@reddoguk7405 4 года назад
Coming from a scientist I agree.
@PriestlyBlock67
@PriestlyBlock67 4 года назад
Love does transcend time and space though
@themagicbeanie3928
@themagicbeanie3928 5 лет назад
Watching this video made me realize a few things about myself. One, I probably should take notes next time I watch another video. Two, I have a lot of flaws for the story I am writing just based on what you said. And 3, writing is a lot more complex than I thought. Besides that, you’re good at giving a clear explanation for writing tips a whole lot better than any of my teachers back at high school. P.S I mostly draw and wanted to write and eventually publish a manga. But I have little to no experience in writing at all.
@HQ_Default
@HQ_Default 5 лет назад
I've actually heard some pretty entertaining stuff from accidentally eavesdropping on people's dinner conversations. By far my favorite that I've heard so far is: Guy: "Dad, you're so obsessed with money, you eat, sleep, and drink it!" Old Guy: "Gotta keep a balanced diet."
@Gaunerchen
@Gaunerchen 5 лет назад
The scene from Interstellar portrays perfectly one of the main problems I have with Anime. Some have interesting ideas, great messages. There are so many fantastic worlds displayed, stories told and ideas presented in Anime, but sometimes I feel like Anime-writers think the viewers are retarded. Maybe it stems from the fact that Anime has its roots in children cartoon, but the constant slapping in the face of the morale, that is perfectly conveyed by the scene itself, is annoying as hell. ''Hey, did you see how that character sacrified himself? Let me tell you how virtuous he is." Even Attack on Titan, which is much better in many aspects as the cliche animes, makes that mistake. They LITERALLY deliver the message by one of the characters shouting at the screen (with epic music in the background), that you sometimes have to sacrifice everything to win.
@ZaxorVonSkyler
@ZaxorVonSkyler 5 лет назад
Did you watch the attack on titan dub? Because whoever wrote the script made the dialogue extremely on the nose and unbearable to watch! The sub was fine though.
@Genesis-il6jy
@Genesis-il6jy 5 лет назад
I agree. That kind of delivery usually turns me completely off but i'll argue that it heavily depends on what you're watching. I've watched many anime that did not have that fault.
@gramps2225
@gramps2225 5 лет назад
sadly all anime suffers from that, so annoying especially when they explain the joke or show flashbacks of stuff that happened in the same episode, it makes one feel like an idiot , even Kdrama has this problem.
@Nikeel_A.W
@Nikeel_A.W 5 лет назад
DUDE YES! I was having a conversation with a friend about this! I feel like this is an issue with Japanese entertainment media in general. You have these incredibly emotionally powerful premises, ideas, and stories. But the delivery just removes subtext eliminating the nuance of reactions and emotions YOU might have about what you are watching. Drives me crazy! So much Japanese media could be so much better if they changed this!
@torysaccount5753
@torysaccount5753 5 лет назад
Try Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. Probably the one of the best shows ever made, it surpasses almost everything I've seen. And the philosophy behind it about god, religion and science is being converted very well.
@danifelicesquest
@danifelicesquest 2 года назад
I discovered what you're talking about with peaky blinders, watching every character knowing how to response in a smart way and not being too direct with what they want to say
@crippa2
@crippa2 5 лет назад
pretty much all dialogue in Game of Thrones is a masterclass in subtext
@desireandfire
@desireandfire 3 года назад
Yeah but only from s1-4. s5-7 do have lots of great dialogue but it's not as cohesive. One of my favorites is olenna tyrell's when jamie seizes highgarden
@jacattack8880
@jacattack8880 Год назад
One the most best beginner guides I've seen on learning to write great dialogue. If I may emphasize one point: write dialogue, and then rewrite it to hone it. On the second pass ask all the questions you should and try to deliver as much context as possible in as little words possible - most importantly ask yourself, "would this scene be any different if they hadn't said that..." if the answer is no, then delete it.
@theweirdofengland
@theweirdofengland 5 лет назад
Basically, what I would add to this is that rules are made to be broken. Personally I kind of get sick of how fake dialogue sounds in movies, and I really respect directors who get their actors to improvise conversation, or include takes where the actors stammer or forget lines. And I like slice-of-life stories that meander into different directions, that kind of prove that plot-relevance isn't the only thing that makes dialogue interesting. Quentin Tarantino does actually include this kind of dialogue in many of his films, such as Death Proof, the first half of which is basically one big chat between some friends in a bar, much of which could have been cut if your rule was "only include plot-relevant dialogue". But it's that kind of meandering irrelevant chat that, for me, makes the movie.
@ZhioN360
@ZhioN360 5 лет назад
Tarantino actually mentions doing this on purpose in one of his interviews. He uses non-relevant dialogue to bury exposition and develop his characters to make them seem more filled in.
@nekrataali
@nekrataali 4 года назад
Yeah I can't really say I agree with this video. Dialog doesn't need a purpose in a story. It's one of the hallmark traits of post-modern storytelling. That's basically...everything by Kurt Vonnegut, Chuck Palahniuk, and Quentin Tarantino, etc. It also includes includes stories like The Matrix, Fight Club, Taxi Driver, Blade Runner, Memento, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, The Blair Witch Project, and so on and so forth. All of these stories and writers have dialog that doesn't have any relevance to the plot or characters. Sometimes it goes as far as to just be the writer's own musings, philosophy, or opinions voiced through the characters. Like what was stated above, sometimes the dialog serves just to give us a slice-of-life and immerses the audience into the story. When it's done correctly, it's incredibly effective at building a believable world.
@i_am_thebatman
@i_am_thebatman 5 лет назад
“Tammy.” - Ron Swanson
@vicaramelia6489
@vicaramelia6489 3 года назад
“Tammy!” - Bird Person
@K38Media
@K38Media 4 года назад
I really REALLY love your content, you not only nitpick things that are frustrating in film but you point out why these things are philosophically frustrating and ways to improve upon them. Which in my opinion is more important than just being able to spot when something doesn't work.
@DylanGeick
@DylanGeick 5 лет назад
@12:25 “Again, nobody in the real world speaks like that because nobody is that clever to reply with witty zingers with such ease and immediacy” May I introduce you to the late, great, Christopher Hitchens?
@asel1124
@asel1124 3 года назад
Craig ferguson also
@DarkCode
@DarkCode 3 года назад
I
@nheyliger6378
@nheyliger6378 5 лет назад
The god closer look is back and stronger than ever
@TheCloserLook
@TheCloserLook 5 лет назад
Good to be back, see you next month ;D
@jordancecil9534
@jordancecil9534 2 года назад
The advertisement was thrown in there so smoothly, and thanks for the tips
@VernardNuncioFields
@VernardNuncioFields 5 лет назад
"What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss?"
@internetsummoner
@internetsummoner 4 года назад
Vern Fields no country for old men !
@SASdude99
@SASdude99 4 года назад
Cormac Mccarthy is the man
@ghettoeasterbasket5638
@ghettoeasterbasket5638 3 года назад
That line turned “No Country For Old Men” into one of my fav films of all time
@sharxgaming2341
@sharxgaming2341 2 года назад
The scene you brought up from The Room actually serves multiple different purposes, It Characterises Johnny and explaines where he procured the flowers. It shows how he is a regular customer at the flower shop, and that he likes dogs to an extent.
@mrkrinkleii2909
@mrkrinkleii2909 2 года назад
I've been binge watching this channel and every reference to The Room makes me want to watch it again
@kedandunn
@kedandunn 5 лет назад
"preferably literally" omg!! Imma use that forever now that's the best
@WayOfTheDuck
@WayOfTheDuck 5 лет назад
My theory for The Room : The words you hear are the Character's thoughts and not their actual spoken words.
@blakeybigd2276
@blakeybigd2276 4 года назад
“listen to audiobooks instead of a boring teacher” now thats inspiring
@pfcparts7728
@pfcparts7728 5 лет назад
"You're a big guy" "FOR YOU"
@naterk9460
@naterk9460 4 года назад
Me: "Huh, characters who just announce how they feel. That reminds me of that line from Futurama with Robot Devil." *Literally 2 seconds later* 5:32
@BadWebDiver
@BadWebDiver 4 года назад
The Futurama episode is a mini writing class all by itself.
@scottymav6389
@scottymav6389 5 лет назад
The Room is so ahead of it's time! In a 100 years it will win an OSCAR!
@ElPeejerino
@ElPeejerino 5 лет назад
This is probably an unpopular opinion but, for me, the Anakin / Padme dialog works in that scene *because* it is clunky. Anakin is a kid, awkwardly coming to terms with his emotions and just blurting out how he feels is a result of that.
@MikeSW
@MikeSW 5 лет назад
I agree. I would still take an axe to it if someone put it in front of me as a first draft, but the final thing would be REALLY similar.
@TailsSpain
@TailsSpain 5 лет назад
It ‘ s kind of pathetic but this scene works for me because he obviously cannot speak like a human being because he just fell in love with Natalie Portman. Undertandable. It is like...God I am speaking nonsense because I am ill! Unintended or not, that s my interpretation
@Vollification
@Vollification 3 года назад
This is why the movie "Live from Baghdad" was so great, the whole movie is just good dialogue and it's basically one verbal conflict in various levels after another. From "Ok we have different opinions but we are working towards the same goal." to outright hostility.
@KyleBirdwell
@KyleBirdwell 5 лет назад
Your content is an absolute gold mine, bless you for it.
@TheCloserLook
@TheCloserLook 5 лет назад
Thanks :)
@ApprenticeNick
@ApprenticeNick 5 лет назад
7:05 "It's Nolan saying 'Hey, the theme for this movie is 'love'." Small nitpick, apologies: 'Love' is not a theme. 'Love' is a topic or idea, but not a 'theme'. A rule of thumb is that it's not a theme unless it's a full sentence. Eg, "Love conquers all" is a theme. "Love always survives" is a theme. "Prioritize what you love above all else" is a theme. "Love" on its own is not a theme. Again, sorry for the nitpick, it's just a common mistake I see and thought it was worth bringing up. Great video!
@AbyssalManta
@AbyssalManta 4 года назад
I just found your channel and I'm enthralled. You really nail the subject with an eloquence I haven't seen anywhere else. Your videos all seem to have a climax of insight, in a way mimicking their very subject matter (narratives). Incredibly clever stuff.
@themocingbird2488
@themocingbird2488 5 лет назад
Oh gosh, I'm really sad to see that your latest video got taken down. I really hope this doesn't become a trend. I just figured I should let you know that you have my support, and that I hope you can continue making great content.
@sophialabella4400
@sophialabella4400 4 года назад
“Troy” -Gabriella
@MiklosBaktay
@MiklosBaktay 5 лет назад
Hi! I know everyone says George Lucas can't write good dialogue, and I can understand that why it is a widespread opinion (although I'm not 100% convinced it can be generalized like that). But, I think the scene you cited from him now is a debatable example. I think it is written from a character's perspective, a character who is a walking oxymoron, he is powerful and powerless, grown, but still a little child, he is in love but don't actually know what that is as he is rather selfish, he is on the side of the good guys but he can't identify with them and so on and so forth. Also, Vader talks like that (with a bit of cynicism added into the mix and that makes these kind of lines sound cool, but I guess that was a result of Palpatine's training ;)). So, here we have this character, he talks as this character would talk. So, in my opinion this is a fitting dialogue for Anakin as he is exactly like that, he doesn't even care what others tell him, so it is not a traditional dialogue, the character (as later Vader) never really went for a dialogue where two characters exchange opinion, etc. he just command, voices his opinion or wish and that's it. So, in this case I have to disagree that his dialogue is terrible as it serves the purpose to show(!) what kind of character Anakin is, what he says is just the thin veil upon his desires, just look at what he does - it is cringe-worthy and very intimidating so you feel very uncomfortable watching it. That's how I see that scene, and I know many of you won't agree, but I think it's worth to talk about it.
@VIK_1903
@VIK_1903 5 лет назад
Agreed
@guillegarcia7146
@guillegarcia7146 5 лет назад
Underrated opinion
@XJevoX
@XJevoX 5 лет назад
Well, youre not wrong, but here is the thing. In the 2nd movie, if Anakin was anything, but blabbling idiot with no real social interaction with other humas, that would be understandable. Or if George made his character, a walking oxymoron, a theme of the movie, then it would work. But when he is witty and cool in action scenes, can talk back to his master, jump from flying cars, and then talk like no other human in history had (if you dont count Romeo), then it is bad writing.
@thedeepfriar745
@thedeepfriar745 5 лет назад
He can’t, both scripts for Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back we’re revised and rewritten by Laurence Kasdan.
@ElectroVenik90
@ElectroVenik90 5 лет назад
What makes that scene from AotC so bad is not exactly Anakin's ramblings. Sometimes he's brutally honest, sometimes witty, sometimes rambling, sometimes awkward and socially inept. It's inconsistent, but that inconsistency is one of his main traits in that movie. He's a strange middle-ground between adoringly earnest and honest and kind Any-the-child and witty, powerful, passionate, charismatic Knight Skywalker. It works, at least in the trilogy sense. What makes it bad is Padme's reaction. She makes no sense the whole film! We don't get any insight into development of her feelings. We see them change from lingering friendship and caring affection to suicidal passion, and we get the impression that it was those awkward attempts at flirting and blatant emotional blackmail from Anakin that were the catalist for it. Which makes no sense! Those - maybe - would work on an uneducated naive woman in male-dominated society, but on a galactic senator, former queen and - at least based on the TPM - one of the strongest characters in that universe? These shit BREAKS my personal suspended disbelief immediately, which breaks my enjoyement of the movie.
@nokihan1787
@nokihan1787 5 лет назад
0:25 - 0:36 "Royale with cheese"
@seamusclarke1777
@seamusclarke1777 5 лет назад
Nuff said
@redefined4657
@redefined4657 3 года назад
You can't always have your characters announce how they feel, that makes me feel angry! Lmao XD
@jasonmoore7223
@jasonmoore7223 5 лет назад
I always felt like Anikan’s dialogue went that way because it’s a representation of his character. When his emotions are strong he becomes unstable and doesn’t really know what to do, so he just reacts to the emotions. Just like when he killed the whole village of sand people. And when he swore himself to Palpatine.
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