How To Write Orchestral Music - Using Woodwinds for Realism and Detail

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Today's tutorial: Woodwinds and How To Use Them in your Orchestrations.
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Music Recommendation for Woodwinds:
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Libraries used & PC Specs:
Strings: Metropolis Ark 1, Cinematic Strings 2, Fluid Shorts
Brass: Metropolis Ark 1, 8Dio Century Brass
Choir: Oceania
Woodwinds: CineWinds CORE
Percussion: Rhapsody Orchestral Percussion, 8Dio Epic Toms & Epic Dhol
DAW: FL Studio 12.5
PC Specs: 3.4 GHz i7 CPU, 16GB RAM, 512 GB SSD + Extra HDD
Song: Green Hill Zone
Original Composer: Masato Nakamura

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3 окт 2024

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@AshtonGleckman 6 лет назад

Just another thing to add: Woodwinds are actually used very commonly in big film scores (Pirates Films, Maze Runner, Wonder Woman, Prometheus, even low winds in Inception, etc) but they are used more as blending tools, and not soloistically or necessarily for ornamentation. There’s also tons of huge woodwind ensembles in Interstellar. They are a fun batch of instruments that are actually really great for layering, and for the right moments, have a really great ability to add something rich if you put them on the surface! :)

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

Ashton Gleckman for sure! Their precise sound is exactly what makes them perfect as layering agents, I show examples of that in the second half of the video. I think we give them less credit than they deserve, but once you try them and see the effect, there's no coming back.

@AshtonGleckman 6 лет назад

Alex Moukala Couldn’t agree more! Keep the great content coming! :-)

@zaharishtonov 6 лет назад

The Woodwinds have always been my favorites! :) There's always something cheerful about them and when they are missing from a composition it's like someone forgot to put _the salt_ in the meal.

@aiden_macleod 4 года назад

I guess that Beethoven or Mozart never got the memo about Woodwinds not being solo instruments and used more for blending tools, huh.

@jimifriedman18 4 года назад

@@aiden_macleod Didn't know that Mozart or Beethoven wrote film scores.

@aiden_macleod 4 года назад

A great way to tell if your Winds part is to long is to sing the line, and if you run out of breath, the line is too long for the instrumentalist to play. Easy Cheesy.

@anthonynelson1699 2 года назад

John Williams and woodwinds go hand in hand, man!

@kellybmackenzie 6 лет назад

YESSS, that's what I requested in that one stream!! Thank you so much, Alex, oh my gosh!! Woodwinds are between my favorites in the Orchestra and I love writing for them so this will be really useful, thank you so so much!!!

@peshtiwarbotanimusic Год назад

Honestly this is way more than just a Woodwinds tutorial in my opinion, it's phenomenal. Alex mentions something very fundamental and important around 6 minute mark, what he mentions is instrumentation register, in this example he talks about the register of woodwinds instruments but this is true for a lot of instruments. There is a lot of instruments that can reach certain octaves, notes etc but they sound more realistic on some notes than others. This is really important to understand and this video is basically a shortcut if you pay attention.

@yasutakeuchi 5 лет назад

Dude, this orchestration is incredible. And this video and your explanation (especially the part about fundamentals and harmonics) was super insightful and helpful! Thank you

@AlexMoukala 5 лет назад

You're welcome

@Vizeral 3 года назад

I've been hunting for good orchestration tutorials and dude, yours just cuts through the haze like nothing else. Yours are the kind of succinct, pointed tutorials I'd want to make. Eloquent and abundantly informative. Thank you!

@yasutakeuchi 5 лет назад

Your music is so full. I love it.

@dillonmderosa 6 лет назад

Thanks for the video Alex. They are the hardest section to write for, fact. Yet, we shouldn't be afraid and be inspired to dive deeper, learn harder, and write for such amazing instruments.

@TiagoNugentComposer 4 года назад

for an example of a really high bassoon solo, check out the one at the beginning of Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring

@ToastedCigar 6 лет назад

Thanks for this awesome video, I've been struggling with writing for woodwinds. You are right that they are not a very prominent part of today's "epic" orchestral music, but they are a very powerful tool when it comes to layering them on top of other instruments or used in softer passages.

@olukz2529 6 лет назад

This is the best explanation on woodwinds I've seen on RU-vid. Thank You!!!!!!

@geraldtoaster8541 6 лет назад

Hey what's up Alex. Thanks for all your hard work :)

@daddydanny5588 4 месяца назад

Thanx for sharing

@varunm.s5597 6 лет назад

Hey thanks for your tutorials man.I am a newbie to composition and your channel offers a lot of knowledge to me, and I want to share something woodwind players sometimes do play over 40 seconds. They use a technique called circular breathing to achieve that.

@bquek4168 3 года назад

Thank you Alex for your amazing tutorials! Greetings from Malaysia!

@davidklemencz 6 лет назад

Yep! Anže Rozman is a very talented guy.

@SvintMvrcus 5 лет назад

Man I learned more from this video than I have in a lot of composing videos I’ve watched ! I love the final fantasy references too lol

@storytimesymphony5395 6 лет назад

As always, I learned a lot. Thanks Alex :)

@JordyChandra 6 лет назад

yeah! I always look up to japanese music :D I found they tend to write somewhat different than western style track even the chord progression hahaha.

@adorethered 5 лет назад

Another good point of reference is some thriller movies from the 90s they have a more moody soundtrack that has more winds and strings and brass is used for texture

@Trance_Kitsune 2 года назад

Ah yes, Green Hill Zone. Very nice touch! ;)

@vinnypwilson6625 3 года назад

Man! Thanks for that!

@BaraMatahariPagi 4 года назад

Hi Alex, have you already made another tutorial on woodwinds? Because I would like to watch that :D

@boriswilsoncreations 3 года назад

2:34 Ironically, I came here to learn more about woodwinds just because I watched a free masterclass by John Powell in the "Mixing With The Masters" site. He was breaking down also one of the tracks he made for How To Train Your Dragon 3, called "Third Date", which is the title of the masterclass as well. Btw, it has five videos between 15 and 25 minutes approximately. I recommend to everyone interested on learning some very interesting and meaningful lessons (that apply to career and to life too).

@crabtreewoodworks 4 года назад

I just found you on You tube. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, very informative .

@tommy_shooter632 4 года назад

Thanks for another great video! Jesus Christ, Pledge of Chaos is a brilliant piece of music. I can't wait to listen to the 4-odd other hours of music from that game.

@AlexMoukala 4 года назад

Literally one of the best orchestrations in Final Fantasy for me!

@elijahjflowers 3 года назад

Thank you.

@ozcarturgue942 6 лет назад

thx you ALEX...…. i was waiting for this tutorial for a long time. thx you a lot.

@chrispantos3559 5 лет назад

Great tutorial! Thank you Alex!

@DarkVayu 6 лет назад

Dude, you're awesome! Thanks a lot for share your knowledge.

@adamcourtenay5437 4 года назад

I was thinking about what you were talking about the other day and was wondering what your take on Eastern Orchestral Music (specifically Japan) was, and I was also wondering if you could maybe do a tutorial on it, maybe like scoring for an Anime, J-RPG, Martial Arts Film or something. P.S. Love your Channel it really does break down Orchestral Music so well.

@soundfxlab2837 6 лет назад

Great stuff as always. Thanks!

@MikeBurnsArrangedAccidents 5 лет назад

Looking forward to Cinematic Studios Woodwinds. OT has a great solo winds program that's been around a while.

@Conrick 6 лет назад

Great Video Alex!

4 года назад

Thank you for this!

@mukulkataria9128 4 года назад

Any tip for preventing distortion when playing midi instruments? What can I do to make them sound real ? Thank you.

@Self_Explorer_Project 6 лет назад

Thanks for this tutorial Alex! I think you should make a tutorial on how to compose japanese soundtrack!

@ProfessorNobody_ 6 лет назад

You are cool, bro! hi from Russia

@RustyWalker 4 года назад

I'm a new sub :D I'm just about to try and write some woodwind parts, so came straight over :D

@thekingsmatter5845 2 года назад

Can you perform an orchestration tutorial on an MPC?

@rosycj8777 6 лет назад

Please complete tutorial of ur track Codename highwind

@sidneyscaccio 6 лет назад

in 9:53 what is the name of the plugin you use for control expressions in the piano roll

@mrsaxophone4765 2 года назад

Also, why do you put saxophones into the brass instead of the woodwinds?

@NeverBackMusic 6 лет назад

Yes, indeed, You can hear a lot of woodwinds section in japanese orchestral composition. Here another example : Donkey Kong Country played at the symphonic games orchestra 2 : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LGZtPht11pg.html . The woodwinds section can enrich the full song, like double some strings part, but also, they can bring a really new feeling, color, atmospher to the song. Emotional feeling like : mystery, slyness, fun, humor. But also you can create some transition effect like you did at 13:00. I think the high frequences that you are talking about is this kind of woodwinds does not create the "Overtone" that we can clearly hear with lower instrument.By the way alex, I signed up to evenant. And i just finish the course of Arn. Really intersting and helpful! Less is more!!

@peruibeloko 6 лет назад

Thanks Alex for all the great content! But the explanation on "why higher notes cut through the mix better" is a bit hazy. Higher sounding instruments cut through the mix better partly because of why you have explained on the video (the amount of harmonics is smaller, thus, less harmonics to clash with other instruments), but the main reason is in physics: Higher frequencies naturally have more energy stored in them, not needing to have so much amplification in order to be heard. Fun fact, the same thing happens to light! Light of higher frequencies (or shorter wavelengths, your choosing) also has more energy associated with it (E = hf)

@Palontras 6 лет назад

Really great video! And just to mention it: your microphone has a very quiet feedback/echo after you speak.

@huckwalton2307 5 лет назад

Great video. The tones that aren’t harmonics are called overtones for those who want to know.

@toolmanproductions 4 года назад

20 min mark can you do the stretchy trick in cubase?

@ChristopherSiu 6 лет назад

Hey Alex, great video and discussion on the frequencies/harmonics! Would you consider doing a review of CineWinds Core?

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

I did a fast review of it here around minute 30: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X6yNLvk8POE.htmlm14s

@ChristopherSiu 6 лет назад

Cool. Do you find the sound in Cinestrings is 'older' too?

@mrsaxophone4765 2 года назад

Alex you are quite wrong about long phrases for woodwinds. You can actually play long phrases depending on how much air it requires. Imagine lomg notes that should be played piano or mezzopiano, it can last lomger than a lomg note played fortissimo, and also you can catch breath without stopping playing, even if it is a very difficult technique, used mostly in contemporary music.

@vgm_central 5 лет назад

god damn.. is it so hard to play a sample of the full project at the start of the video xD

@hypermix1 6 лет назад

i like your videos and i hope you make video about your plugins in fl studio and your kontakt plugins please

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

I already did: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X6yNLvk8POE.html

@DemiurgePhoenix 5 лет назад

Spettacolare serie! Sto imprando tanto, e lavorando nella industry dei videogiochi amo che prendi per riferimento altri giochi :) Mai pensato ad un'orchestrazione del main theme di Chrono Trigger? Thank you!

@AlexMoukala 5 лет назад

Non ho mai giocato a Chrono Trigger purtroppo!

@DemiurgePhoenix 5 лет назад

@@AlexMoukala lo so...1995 :) ma grazie di tutti questi video. Sto iniziando a comporre musica orchestrale, e grazie ai tuoi video ho molte più informazioni!

@iamnobody8905 6 лет назад

Thank you for this wonderful video. You should actually do a video on BRSO . I have watched your tutorial on that but i do not think it is complete

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

Iam Nobody a tutorial about what aspects of it precisely??

@iamnobody8905 6 лет назад

about how you map the expression and how you edit it in the piano roll itself. I have watched almost all of your streams and i am still trying to figure out. Plus your workflow is really fast , you should do a video on that too :)

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

Right click on the expression knob -> edit events in piano roll. As for my workflow, I guess I'll make a video about my favorite shortcuts. But they're few!

@iamnobody8905 6 лет назад

thank you :)

@randomcommenter6734 6 лет назад

There's a library from cinesample that have woodwinds runs called hollywoodwinds, much more realistic.

@thimovijfschaft3271 5 лет назад

Star Wars is the first movie series I think of with woodwinds in it

@zaharishtonov 6 лет назад

Hey Alex, thank you for another great video! I have a quick question for you: Do you use step input to program the ostinatos/runs in your projects?

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

Not really! I just do that with velocities. But I guess it could also be done that way.

@HashtagObi 6 лет назад

an another amazing tutorial, is there a coupon code that you have for when we sign up to Evenant?

6 лет назад

Hey Alex, a question to the evenant course: Is it as precise explained as you do it? And does it cover everything ? Like what you need in a template and stuff? I noticed you sometimes use the whole string essamble for chords and than layer cellos basses solo cello and 1st and 2nd violin over it I don’t know why you should layer cellos and basses on top + solo cello Just want to know if it‘s really in-depth since I‘m thinking to get this course for a few months now and invest in that Thanks a lot! Always love your tutorials and your quality posts on Instagram Greets from Germany!

6 лет назад

Because 355 is a bit of money for me 😂🙈

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

For sure. I wouldn't recommend you something that's badly made or a scam. That course is the biggest and most-full resource I know and tried for when it comes to learning about writing Modern Orchestral Music. Arn's way of teaching is a bit different than mine since we had different backgrounds and skill levels (he's five times more talented than me) but it's still understandable and easily-relatable. I think, if you follow both my channel and his course, and practice what we preach, then you'll get two different perspectives on the same thing which will just make you grow much faster.

6 лет назад

Alex Moukala I know you care about your audience and never would recommend something that’s not good, thanks for that really detailed information ! I‘m using FL and he is using Cubase but I think that won‘t be a problem since I‘m seeing your videos for making a template etc. :D

@donnycui997 6 лет назад

Hey, check out harry potter 3 film score.I think the woodwinds arrangement in there is amazing.

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

donny cui love those! Especially the first two scores more than the third. It's sad that we almost don't get that type of classical movie scores anymore.

@donnycui997 6 лет назад

You know there are original music sheets available for harry potter 1&2,you can study the orchestration bar by bar.Tons of info there.

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

That's literally the only thing that makes me regret not being able to read music. But there's much more I feel like I should learn personally before I even tackle that.

@mrquintontheone 4 года назад

Hey, so I only have the volume and velocity and pitch control. How do you get that dynamics control? Also, Does anyone use Ghosthack at all libraries? I think it’s more tailored toward EDM type stuff. Just wondering.

@Formula400Pontiac 6 лет назад

Boggles your mind that the scale run 20:48 sounds very legit and still seems impossible to perform on real instruments? That can be "easily" achieved with two instruments playing the scale run. Playing that (19:37) in perfect sync will be totally impossible and the result will end up very close to the duet sounding scale runs. Just try layering two simple scale run and offset the key notes in the piano roll just ever so slightly. Sounds almost identical to the 20:48? Mystery solved...

@chrismeyers7487 6 лет назад

Dude, how do you EQ the Giant? I feel like I have to put a high-pass all the way up to 600Hz before it starts to sound clear, but loses so much of that 'giant' sound... :(

@berpmorph2946 5 лет назад

Not EQ. Only arrangement. With a good composition, the EQ is unnecessary.

@improvementTime10.3.17 4 года назад

6:35 types of woodwinds

@randomcommenter6734 6 лет назад

how do you add markers on the timeline? and what piano do you use? I feel like I heard it before

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

Alt+T. And for the piano: The Giant.

@randomcommenter6734 6 лет назад

Alex Moukala oh thanks!

@anthonytavarez1092 6 лет назад

I think you would be helping many people if you only explained how you configured kontakt with all those channels .. if you can help me with something, it is making a video explaining how the hell you do that... I really need that

@AlexMoukala 6 лет назад

I already did: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ekReYnYA5a0.html

@anthonytavarez1092 6 лет назад

wow I did not expect you to respond so fast ♥♥♥♥.. keep working hard master!!!

@nilstarlight 6 лет назад

I luv u

@EduardoPastorCampos 6 лет назад

hello!!

@dreamermidnight6888 6 лет назад

I use Clarinet mostly as a solo instrument since my best friend is a talented clarinet player. Before I met her I thought Clarinet was a very boring instrument. You can also think of woodwinds in a different non-classic way to spice up your compositions for example as we did in the beginning of this track. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LqFTV2Zx2Co.html Though I built the track upon recorded improvisations and learnt everything about trailer music from the evenant trailer course.