Why did Muslims in Maharashtra vote for Uddhav’s Shiv Sena: move to secular Hindutva with INC-NCP 

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We got secular hindutva before gta 6

Shekar Gupta Ji . Calls muslim vote as secular. But hindutva vote as non secular

Respectfully, muslims did not vote "for shivsena", they just voted against BJP and the against vote was better consolidated than ever before

Secular Hindutva is same as vegetarian beef😂😂😂😂

One important detail is missing here. Between 2004 and 2009 election, ShivSena itself got split into 2 factions. That is when Raj Thakare formed MNS. This was the more radical party for the Marathi Manus issues. Plus congress govt at that time, really made sure that Raj Thakare is able to grow. This meant that ShivSena's Marathi vote got split in two factions before 2009 elections. By 2014 elections, ShivSena further lost their Hindutva vote. This 1-2 punch put Sena really at a backfoot, by the time 2014 elections were over. During this time, ShivSena was really struggling to find its core voter base. In a way Modi-Shah really helped ShivSena by splitting it up. This helped generate a sympathy for Uddhav Thakare, which I believe was lacking to some extent before that.

INC is actually a very religion/caste conscious based party - however it is smart enough to have this fact well masked and madquardes as a so called secular entity that's pure genius

Modi got 37% in 2024 votes same as in 2019. It's just when a multicolor system is transferred into into a bipolar system, the disproportionate increase in seats comes down. So 37.5% votes in 2019 gave bjp 55% seats while 37% votes in 2024 gave bjp 44% seats. Politics is getting consolidated around two poles that's why low seats with same vote share.

Hindutva votes then why dont it be radical islamist votes or simply terrorist votes??

After falling flat on their face during LS election, I don't understand why people are still in this speculation business 😂😂

How can you say the SECULAR VOTES same as MUSLIM Votes.

BJP lost the chance to bring Uniform Civil Code in last 5 years. It could have created a pro-BJP liberal Muslim constituency, with more reforms like triple talaq. But weirdly, they decided, they want to go full on Muslim bashing to consolidate Hindu votes. I don't understand, how it was ever going to work. Now, even Naseeruddin Shah is saying, it is easy to blame Modi, but Muslims need reforms to uplift them.

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Please talk about Maharashtra Municipal Corporation elections. They are on hold from last 2-3 years

We in Maharashtra know - Uddhav the 🐧 wasn’t even mla. Even he knows he fails as a politician- he was making his sons career in politics and by chance he became cm. Without Balasaheb this Pappu was and is directionless and brainless 😂

Still waiting for cut the clutter on Tamilnadu liquor deaths.

BJP’s Hindutva does not differentiate the benefits of all programs by any religion. How is Uddhav’s hindutva different?

Hindutva has been secular from time immemorial. That is the only reason why Hindus are secular. Uddhav has not become secular by joining hands with Congress and NCP. He has become pseudo secular like them.

Muslims want to defeat BJP that too Narendra Modi particularly. They will vote to anyone who is against modi.

Sans the 'Print' spin, Mumbai's Muslims, as elsewhere in the country, had voted mainly to stop Modi's juggernaut, and nothing more and nothing less to it.

Just a radical thought. How about BJP fields Nitin Gadkari as the CM candidate for Maharashtra?

its anti BJP vote to MVA, nothing to do with Hindutva

Only power matters and not principles. Don’t be surprised tomorrow Shiv Sena becomes the new Congress, Udhav participating in Iftar parties😂

Can you explain what is the difference between NCP, Congress and SS Uddhav if they all have same votebank, same ideology ? My sense is that its floating vote bank and its unlikely to stick with Uddhav unless congress and NCP accept Uddhav as their leader, which they will not as it undermines their own position.

it should be named as cut the opinion

Shiv Sena has always been pro Marathi Manus. First they opposed South Indians. Next they opposed Muslims. Now they oppose Ambani Adani. I may not like their method of opposing.

Super planting new word ,,New Hindutva” which you can’t use for Muslims and Christian’s 😮

Muslim vote is Secular , Hindu vote is Communal : is it not the discourse from 1952y .

UBT had a strike rate of 42.85%. Shinde Sena’s strike rate was 43.75%. So Mr. Gupta…on what basis are you relaying this information that Maharashtra has recognized UBT Sena as the real Sena? It could be true in case of NCP but not so in case of Shiva Sena. I would love to hear your basis for this conclusion

Bal Thackeray, Moving from Maratha only to Hindutva, made the situation of Shiv Sena precarious vis a vis BJP. BJP being a bigger Hindutva party was always going to surpass Shiv Sena and that's what happened. Now, only time will tell how this "secular Hindutva" is going to work for Uddbhav Thakarey.

It shows that some vote intelligently and some foolishly and sg rightly said" secular" vote means muslim votes

If there was a betrayal of mandate match between UBT and BJP, the score would be UBT 1(2019,Aligning with Congress-NCP)- BJP 3( 3 day government with Ajit Pawar, Breaking Shivsena, Taking Ajit Pawar in the government)

Any cut the clutter on Hooch 😢

How UBT Shivsena is original shivsena of Hindu ruthay samrat if majority of its votes are comming from Muslim?

Dear Shekar Gupta, let me remind you one thing, you never talks about Mamta Banergy’s dirty politics. She did a lot of harmful politics in Bengal like attack opposition political peoples. You are a typical left ideology journalist. And mind you the much talk about your neutral stands is just a mask, also your viewership is much weaker than other online media. Thank you.

SS UBT under Uddhav has moved from far right to centre right like that of his Grandpa and not his Dad. What I am laughing about is how Congressi Grandfather, may god rest his soul, would have been so shocked to see a Thackeray to be the most loyal Gandhi ally.

Shiv sena is about superficial and consequently superfluous politics - signboards and renaming . Otherwise completely clueless about governance .

Its not a secular vote but strategic vote..... When bjp weakened then they finish shivsena

Shekhar wasted some 20 minutes to come the point that everyone knows in Maharashtra anyway- that UB Sena got minority votes en bloc as what is viewed as strategic option, to defeat BJP by voting for anyone who is in the best position to defeat BJP!!! It was just anti BJP vote by minority and name sake Hindus!!! Further, one to one fight by INDI Alliance against NDA helped greatly in defeating NDA! 2. BJP should NOT take back UBT!!! That will be worst mistake it will do!!

Doing his best to make shiv sena a secular party which he has been doing right after bala thakery died.

People dont get Maharashtra at all. Sena is first Marathi party then hindutva. RSS is from Maharashtra and nobody understands them better than we Marathis do. Who opposed them historically Ambedkar, Mahatma phule? . BJP thought PM would shift a project to Gujrat by one phone call and people won't react? They can dont need to teach us our religion they can teach to Gujjus and Northies

Why isn’t the President be more active and deal with Mamta and Delhi. Is she scared of them?

In the assembly elections, when SS got SS 50-odd seats after contesting elections with BJP or without BJP, doesn't it show that SS was not gaining anything by staying with BJP? It was clear, SS was not getting the BJP votes in places where they were contesting while in coalition with BJP.

I can’t help but notice SG’s (and DK’s) subtle left turn from centre after June, the 4th. I may be overanalysing, or may be not.

Winds will turn again in Maharashtra. Shiv Sena Shinde will become the kingmaker for any Govt to form and this will dictate who legitimately commands Shiv Sena as a whole (combined). November will be the final battle of this war.

Congress+NCP got 33.5% votes in 2019. The MVA now has got 43.5% votes. Ajit NCP got 3% votes, by this logic UBT brought only 11-12% or just half of shiv sena vote, the other half of 11-12% votes remained with Eknath Shinde. In fact BJP got 26.5% votes largely same as last time. So it is UBT who will be biggest loser in Maharashtra just wait for a few years

When would the presstitudes like Shekhar stop misusing the term secular???

A state and the people once patriot of the great Shivaji Maharaj now it is broken with pieces to scavengers.

Next Cm of Maharashtra again Uddhav Balasaheb Thakray 🔥 ❗️

NCP+Congress had 33.5% votes on 48 seats in 2019. If 3% NCP vote went to Ajit. It leaves around 31%. Pawar+Congress fought 27 seats and got 27.5% votes(6% less than last time). This means UBT got 10.5%(their own vote)+6%(Congress+NCP vote). This is why I am saying UBT is biggest loser in MH. BJP got 27.7% vote last last time which marginally came down to 26.3%. But UBT just managed to get half vote share of his party. So I would not be surprised if UBT & NCP(SP) ends up like BRS

This is false information Shivsena first joined hands with Sharad Pawar and then Sharad Pawar went to Modi to form a govt with BJP That's how Ajit Pawar and Fadanvis took oath But Sharad Pawar changed his mind and sena, NCP and congress formed the govt

First of all Mr Uddhav Thakre left NDA only CM post not offered to him and not on any other principled change in ideology as seems propagated by Shekhar. Next still in Maharashtra BJP has more vote bank than Shivsena and the Uddhav Sena since became a secular brand party it is bound to lose some of its core vote bank which will affect its bargaining power since it could not win without minority votes and such votes come to Uddhav Sena only because of its alliance with congress ncp and hence no more uddhav Sena could dominate the alliance. Also they may not in this election go to voters with Uddhav as CM face. Also in future Uddhav will lose the credibility on talking hindutva in any platform and even he may have to apologise for participating in babri masjid demolition. Also Uddhav need to keep silent on abusement about Savarkar and could not retaliate much to keep his secular identity intact. Uddhav will be in a precarious situation and congress will use this opportunity to take upper hand. Let us wait and see the developments.

Why I don't become a member of The Print though I like a journalism here?? Listen 29:15

Uddhav is backstabber to his father clearly.

It is Maha Vikas Aghadi, not Maharashtra Vikas Aghadi

There is no such thing as hindutva .never was

There is no such thing as secular Hindutva. Uddhav Thackeray is not Hinduwadi anymore. He is just an opportunist with no ideology, similar to AAP.

People often compare the firebrand Hindutva of Late Shri Balasaheb Thackreay with that of Soft, inclusive Hindutva of Uddhav Thackeray.. And in the process, many of them tend to criticise or demean Uddhav Thackeray's leadership and style of functioning by saying that he has bowed down to the pressure and ideology of Congress , which has forced him to tone down his stance on Hindutva.. But one must remember that between late 80's and early 90's when the issue of Ram Mandir ( and thus the fiery Hindutva... ) was at its peak and today in year 2024, the situation has changed.. the context has changed.. the problems that people face have changed.. their priorities have changed... The miilions of young voters including the first time voters, have not seen or experienced the heated atmosphere that prevailed during the Babri masjid demolition ... Today, these voters are much more rational in their thinking... they are much more smarter owing to their 24*7 exposure to mainstream media and the social media.. They consider the problems of unemployment, inflation as their top priorities instead of digging up the history and getting into dogfights over the issues belonging to such history.. Therefore the inclusive politics from Uddhav Thackeray is a smart , tactical move which has resulted in getting him the support of not just the non- Hindu's , but also from different castes,groups within Hindu's, which were not so sure about supporting the Shiv sena all these years.. Honestly, I see little scope for the policy of 'divide and rule' to become the success mantra in Indian politics.. Going forward, the voters are unlikey to fall prey to the divisive tactics deployed on the basis of religion... And one must say that it is a healthy sign for our democracy.

BJP is loosing both Haryana and Maharashtra in Vidhan Sabha elections 😂

Don't know if I am correct. Sometimes the print journalist are trying to bring real sense of data, but SG sir trys to wheel them to say the way he believes it is right.

It shows that some vote intelligently and some foolishly

Thank you shekar sir bringing good episode.

Muslims call the shot in Mumbai. Be wary of #secular parties as Shekhar says Lol End of Uddhav Thakre

Shekarji, what is your opinion about Mr, Kamala Hasan’s comments on Chennai hooch TRAGEDY

I think the analysis doesn't tell the truth as Muslims across India voted just to defeat BJP. So even if some tom dick and Harry align with Congress , they would get Muslim votes if he or she has a good chance of defeating BJP. This is simple conclusion as far as election result data is concerned.Moreover, the idea that shinde sena have performed poorly is wrong as they fought 15 seats and won 7 while udhav sena fought 21 and won 9 only inspite of Congress and ncp performing so well. This means the cadre votes was divided between both factions of sena. simple brute analysis

9:52 - breaking away and going on to the non-Hindu side. How conveniently do you use the secular term 😂

Regional nationalism is better than GeoFinancial vested interests that Rahul represents. That is much dangerous than colonialism, defeat in a war, or any big corruption. Mother of all corruption is being a tool in the hands of geo financial forces of exploitation. That will destroy the nation & its people. Rahul is a real treat to India. All his speeches are framed by geo-financial exploitative forces.

It is quite natural that SG is very excited after the Lok Sabha 2nd place. They still think they won. 😂 Let's see if the votes hold for the assembly.

Shekarji Don’t mistake Muslim vote for secular vote

BJP shot themselves in the foot. Breaking up the Shiv Sena and then taking Ajit Pawar into their party, didn’t sit well with the people. The biggest surprise to me was how BJP lost Vidarbha in a straight fight with Congress. Especially considering it’s a stronghold of Fadnavis, Gadkari and RSS

It was wrong on part of PM-HM- Fadnavis team to break up with SS the way they did for power politics forgetting Hindu cause. It is another fact that Udhav as CM was one of the worst CM may be due to the inorganic alliance he went for. Then breaking SS was a wrong move for BJP and bringing Ajith Pawar was the lowest point. In politics one always need an ideology which should never be power as BJP is doing now. People won't agree with that always because being chameleon for all seasons is never good politics and people never get influenced. Add to that how current elections were fought and candidates selected by BJP which angered BJP all over country. Continuing with SS was always the right call as anyhow SS was getting diminished naturally like other regional parties. But BJP this time by their in imaginative power politics damaged themselves and gave a big boost to all Regional parties and Congress unnecessarily harming our politics in the long run. It is sad sometimes Chanakya got many things bad since 2019 on the assumption that workers of party and people are blindly enamored by their vile. That bubble of invincibility is not good politics is shown to BJP by wise voters and workers and more importantly the middle class

Why uddhav shivsena is needed when congress and NCP is already there.

His father would have been ashamed by seeing all this mess what his son has done . The reason my he got so many votes is because Muslims will vote anyone against BJP. And his agenda is development??? What development did he do for 2.5 years?? This election Eknath shinde has a much better strike rate than uddhav. I want to see how uddhav can carry on with its own hindutva agenda. I seriously think raj thackery should have been the original to lead shiv sena. Not now but in the future uddhav and Aditya both will realize that they have left what the great balasaheb thackery did for Maharashtra and soon join with BJP

Thirty lakh population ie minority votes speaking in Mumbai.Now 2024 Mumbai population 1.80 crore and 60 lakhs minorities makes a difference.

12:38 This is true, Congress was pro-SHIVSENA and not just true in Maharashtra, also in Hyderabad. Hyderabad has a huge Marathi speaking population(Doolpet, Mangalhaat, GoshalMahal, Puranapul,..) ever since Nizam times i.e. 1800s still less than local Urdu or Telugu speakers. They started to vote BJP precursor Janata Party which once had 4 seats in united AP. In fact current BJP MLA RajaSingh is a native Marathi speaker, not Telugu. After new found success in Mumbai ShivSena tried to establish itself in Hyderabad with its street style politics. That triggered riots and congress which had sitting Marathi MPs for decades was soft on Sena. This lead to unexpected reaction i.e. rise of MIM, muslim stopped voting to Congress voted MIM, a party which hardly won few councilors and hardly won 1 independent MLA before. Then subsequent election MIM won 3 MLA and then pull off unthinkable i.e. Hyderabad MP seat.

Where is assessment?

veg biryani is not biryani. Come on!

If Thackrey goes back to BJP , his politics is over for forever.

Simply uddhav and Aditya thacker look and speak more civil. That's it.

A crushing defeat in the MH and Haryana Assembly elections will break the arrogance of the Sanghis and their IT Trolls.

Mr Shekhar Gupta.. it is not as complicated as you make out to be. Muslims would vote for any part or coalition which can defeat BJP. It is as simple as this

SG have soft cornar to UBT

A north star for Muslims under Darul-e-Harb circumstance is Darul-e-islam. Every move & partnership is made to keep North Star's interest paramount. Rest everything is tactical. Today whoever is most convenient to move half an inch closer to North Star (or on rare unfavorable days, like since 2014, to minimize movement away from North Star) is a tactically useful fool at that moment. That fool will get dumped when some other tactic has a higher probability of moving closer to the North Star. In India, the only group that has well well-defined single long-term "group agenda" is Muslims. All these verbal gyrations by Nehruvian Ashrafi Bhadrlok ecosystem about secularism, soft Hindutva, etc are just plain gas.

Why not show what was there vote strength in worli n shwedi?

Congress will contest minimum 160 assembly seats in Maharashtra

This has to be one of the worst episode on your channel. Secular parties in India are the one which receives Muslim vote. Its a hilarious concept but somehow the left has convinced people of that I pity those people who actually pay to watch this

Guptaji.. In all these years of CTC, this is the rare one, where ur analysis is wrong. Ms. Mansi being Mumbai resident should have been very much aware of the fact that Uddhav has lost most of his traditional marathi vote bank. UT segment had contested 21 LS seats and they won only 9 srats with vote share of around 16%. Most of these votes belonged to Congress. In Sangli, Congress rebel won, while UT candidate was at third place. UT sena even lost all the konkan region seats from Thane to Sindhudurg, which once upon a time was Senas bastion. On the other hand, Shinde faction contested 15 and won 7 seats with vote share of around 13%, which is not far from Uddhav. Rather Shinde did better than even BJP. He later claimed that if he would had more seats if contested on more. Especially in Mumbai, BJP and Shinde candidates have lost mostly because of Muslim votes, which helped Uddhav, but all these are Congress votrs. It will be fun to watch assembly elections as cracks will get widen. Nana Patole has already been claiming for more seat share and even CM position. Uddhav should retrospect that why his alliance ie Congress and NCP had better success rate than him in LS elections..

BJP, shiv sena, akali do politics on religion. What congress does? It's an is|amic party. A community do vote j1had for them. Mixing is|am with politics is ok. But mixing Hinduism is problematic. Wow.

I love Mr Shekhar Gupta, he is a soft GODI but a gentleman ...

Also from the time bjp won at the centre they were better resourced than the Uddhav Sena

Note: Not judging anyone's voting choice as citizen of india muslim have right to vote however they choose But there is no secular hindutava and muslims didn't voted for secular hindutva they voted for UBT because he was viable opponent against BJP if seat sharing would make INC or NCP viable opponent against BJP muslims would vote for it, because muslims are afraid of BJP and whatever the reason might be for that I am not disscusing that here but is the fact

Uddhav Sena has no ideology except power

I think Udhav Thackeray's views are similar to his grand dad Mr Prabhodankar Thackeray

Secular Hinduthva 🤩 what an oxymoron 😂😂😂

If BJP adopts Shib Sena's new ideology once again in the future, it will be even more formidable.

_Rude things_. Such a polite way of saying _horrible things_

Next CM of Maharashtra will be from Congress

Old is now getting older opt new narrative. Modern Humanity , tatva is needed separating hard hindutva to secular Hindutva humanitarian approach.

Muslims will vote against BJP IN the 2024 elections, there were 20 crore Muslim voters . Congress received all 20 crores votes

SG as usual using his winding arguements trying establish the impossible. It is,a,simple case of muslim ghetto mentality voting against BJP. If they had not voted for Uddav, BJP would hv won easily. Why 30 mts of confusing talk for this?