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How Ukraine Became Part of the USSR - The Soviet-Ukrainian War (Documentary) 

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Ukraine was right in the center of the violent chaos following the Russian Revolution 1917. After declaring independence the Ukrainian People's Republic was invaded multiple times as the Russian Civil War, the Polish-Soviet War, the Ukrainian-Polish War and the Soviet-Ukrainian War all raged across the country. The Communist victory in the Russian Civil War meant that the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic became a founding member of the USSR.
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Presented by: Jesse Alexander
Written by: Mark Newton, Jesse Alexander
Director: Toni Steller & Florian Wittig
Director of Photography: Toni Steller
Sound: Toni Steller
Editing: Jose Gamez
Motion Design: Philipp Appelt
Mixing, Mastering & Sound Design: above-zero.com
Research by: Mark Newton, Jesse Alexander
Fact checking: Jesse Alexander
Channel Design: Yves Thimian
Contains licensed material by getty images
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@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 2 года назад
I asked our Ukrainian friend Eduard (from the RU-vid channel KGB Files) for donation recommendations to support Ukraine right now. He suggested these two and said they would make a difference: www.prytula-co.org/financial www.comebackalive.in.ua/donate vostok-sos.org/en/ razomforukraine.org www.rsukraine.org/ he's also raising funds for medical equipment tight now: twitter.com/kgb_files/status/1507371659640061959
@trickstar33
@trickstar33 2 года назад
Extra like for being only channel or media outlet who pronounced Kyiv in Ukrainian correctly. "Keev" makes me cringe everytime I hear it. Key-iv
@jessealexander2695
@jessealexander2695 2 года назад
@@trickstar33 I try my best.
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 2 года назад
@@trickstar33 Its hard or at least awkward for most English speakers to enunciate. At least they are trying to avoid "Kia ev".
@jona.scholt4362
@jona.scholt4362 2 года назад
Is there a language Jesse does not know how to speak? I feel this is an entirety legitimate question after seeing him speak English, German, French, Russian and now Ukrainian in videos on this channel and on the Real Time History channel. And the thing is I'm pretty sure I have missed or forgotten others from all the great videos on the newly formed nations after WW1. If anyone out there can remember and add another to the list I'd be interested.
@jessealexander2695
@jessealexander2695 2 года назад
@@jona.scholt4362 Hate to disappoint but I can't speak any Ukrainian, at the end I spoke Russian.
@brianoneil9662
@brianoneil9662 2 года назад
Considering how extraordinarily complicated this period of European history is, you do a wonderful job of clearly and concisely explaining it.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 2 года назад
thanks
@Tom-pt5wm
@Tom-pt5wm 2 года назад
Ukrainians are a nation of the unconquered🟦🟨
@bart5158
@bart5158 2 года назад
@@LucidFL thanks for enlightening us all with your wisdom Lucid.
@slewone4905
@slewone4905 2 года назад
he left out parts to support Ukraine. The Western part was added latter. the map was inaccurate. Donetsk-Krivoy Rog was another soviet Republic that made up what is western Ukraine. THis was originally Cossack land that the Czar invited settlers.
@simonbroberg969
@simonbroberg969 2 года назад
@@slewone4905 the maps then were always changing. THey goes into detail concerning plight of the Cossacks.. They also did a very bit on the real Anarchists too!
@piotrsieminski
@piotrsieminski 2 года назад
The Russian policy of self-determination is: you can do whatever you want, as long as it is what we want.
@daredevil_37
@daredevil_37 2 года назад
exactly
@rangorico3835
@rangorico3835 Год назад
lol you don't see the hypocrisy of your statement?, switch that around to US foreign policy and it fits perfectly well too
@thepessimistictitan2655
@thepessimistictitan2655 Год назад
@@rangorico3835 it's not hypocritical because the statement is not defending US foreign policy. Russians are the masters of whataboutism
@blankeon6613
@blankeon6613 Год назад
@@rangorico3835 That is called whataboutism. It is wrong when both Russia and USA does this.
@BIGnNASTYboy
@BIGnNASTYboy Год назад
It's called pointing out hypocrisy
@eardwulf785
@eardwulf785 Год назад
I studied history in my youth including modern history. The sheer amount of historic events that shaped Europe during the early 20th century for me is a revelation. Im more than surprised how much of my education was edited and simplified. When considering Ukraine's timeline after absorbing it's history in full and in depth, one can develop a true understanding of the events that are again reshaping Ukraine in the 21st century. edit: I should of added, I'm English.
@veramae4098
@veramae4098 Год назад
A yt comment recommended "Bloodlands: between Hitler and Stalin" by Timothy Snyder. Bought it, reading, gripping and horrifying.
@juulfiend2103
@juulfiend2103 Год назад
No you shouldn’t have added that edit
@johnnyenglish583
@johnnyenglish583 Год назад
There's an absollutely brilliant RU-vid series of Professor Snyder's lectures at Yale on the history and identity of Ukraine. It's easy to find. I can't recommend it enough. He's a great lecturer and gives a very thorough but very lucid account of what happened, from the first settlements by Ancient Greeks, through the "original" Ukraine (Kyiv Rus'), through to contemporary times. Nobody who's seen the series will believe the Russian propaganda of Ukraine being an "appendix" to Russia. The opposite is true: Muscovy originated as a tiny backwater in the Kyivan state, and Moscow itself was only founded hundreds of years after Kyiv.
@eardwulf785
@eardwulf785 Год назад
@@juulfiend2103 Your opinion doesn't interest me
@eardwulf785
@eardwulf785 Год назад
@@johnnyenglish583 That sounds like something I could get my teeth into. Thanks for the heads up.
@SpicyTurkey83
@SpicyTurkey83 Год назад
As a Korean (who also have insanely complicated history) dating a Ukrainian, I have an obsessive appreciation for this video. I was in L'viv when the war began on February 24, 2022. I spent 36 hours on the Polish border, and experienced air sirens as if it were 1941. History, ladies and gentlemen, repeats itself.
@WP-cu2pf
@WP-cu2pf Год назад
Do you think that iraqis or lybians or syrians who experienced mass bombings and civilan victims experienced the same thing as you?
@bunchofletters9250
@bunchofletters9250 Год назад
@@WP-cu2pf what does this have to do with anything?
@airatshakirov
@airatshakirov Год назад
@@bunchofletters9250 despite the fair remark that no one cared about these invasions, his message sounds extremely out of place.
@HawkThunder907
@HawkThunder907 Год назад
everybody cares for fascist Ukraine but when the USA attacked and bombed only civillians like serbia 1999, Lybia 2010s, nobody cares. You surely don't know what war crimes and wars the US provicated. Much more than Russia
@Emily-ou6lq
@Emily-ou6lq Год назад
That war began in 2014 tho, when the Urk gov started bombing their own citizens.
@user-fv5ol4or1b
@user-fv5ol4or1b 2 года назад
I'm a Ukrainian, and this is the first foreign documentary or video of SUCH ENORMOUS accuracy on the topic of our history! I applaud to you, even though this is the first time I came across your channel. WELL DONE 👏🇺🇦
@henryruizmeeden
@henryruizmeeden 2 года назад
I was impressed to, but i wasnt sure it was "accurate." Thanks for the vote of confidence in the material.
@Fre3domAction
@Fre3domAction 2 года назад
Stay safe bro🇺🇦✌️
@LolAsdov
@LolAsdov 2 года назад
Let Donetsk People’s Republic and Lugansk People’s Republic be independent just like Ukrainian People’s Republic wanted back in the days
@kensukefan47
@kensukefan47 2 года назад
Z
@user-bp3lp6nv4u
@user-bp3lp6nv4u 2 года назад
@@LolAsdov +15 rubles kremlin bot
@dmitryadamenko6518
@dmitryadamenko6518 2 года назад
Not many people are able to process such a messy period of history. Thank you, sir for this video
@boanergesbezerra166
@boanergesbezerra166 2 года назад
Not many indeed, lol , ignorance of History it is abysmal around the World that it is why Media controls narrative distorting history constantly
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 года назад
very much faked
@vinllga
@vinllga 2 года назад
Real historial Ukraine is the ancient part of Russia. Ukranians of Austria is the Galitsians, nameless nation that stolen the name of Ukranians and forcibly re-identified the real Ukrainians (Russians of Small Russia) during the USSR era and especially after 1991/ Ukranians of Austria is another nation than real Russian Ukranians. Galitsians are the invaders and opressors of real historical Ukraine/ Small Russia (Ukraine), White Russia and Great Russia are three sides of one Russian nation
@vinllga
@vinllga 2 года назад
So called "Ukraine" (common Slavic term means province, edge, region, outskirts) is a taboo name for designating Russia minor or Russian lands inside the kingdom of Poland (the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth). This word "Ukraine" emerged only in 16 th century and the ancient word Rus/Rusia was tabooed, it was replaced by the Polish euphemism "Ukraine" due to fear of Moscow Russia, claiming for ownership of kievan Rus. Like among primitive people it was forbidden to name the direct name of a totem animal, so the Polish kings preferred not to hear the name of their main enemy Russia (the Muscovite tsardom) inside their lands. Thats why was created by Polish occupants myth about some "Ukraine" (instead Russia) that is als ob "not Russia" . But this is lie and absurd = Russia minor (Ukraine) means central or inner Russia. Cossacks of Zaporozhye suggested to Poles a substitute word for Russia. This became the word "Ukraine", used by Russian Cossacks of Zaporozhye for description of the border between Malorossija and tartar steppe. Now the separatist regime of Ukraine has been brainwashing Ukrainians (renamed Russians) with this myth since 1991..
@williamgill5286
@williamgill5286 Год назад
Dude guess what. I scream for ice cream and so do you jajajajaja
@chrystya
@chrystya 6 месяцев назад
How refreshing to hear the names of the Ukrainian cities pronounced correctly
@leonardjoseph6309
@leonardjoseph6309 Год назад
Thank you very much for the educational documentary 🙏
@blady7717
@blady7717 Год назад
Is wrong education -FAKE Ukraine didn't exist before 1990
@troorl
@troorl 2 года назад
That's the first time I see a Westerner who really gets our history, at least the past 120 years of it. Incredible job, would gladly shake your hand if I ever got the chance to meet you.
@jessealexander2695
@jessealexander2695 2 года назад
I will certainly come to Ukraine again after he war. Until then.
@needforspeed9330
@needforspeed9330 2 года назад
@@jessealexander2695 Make a documentary about Roman Shukhevych and Stepan Bandera as well as about Ukraine in the Second World War.
@havable
@havable 2 года назад
@@needforspeed9330 Why make documentaries about irrelevant people? Do you think David Duke runs the US?
@boanergesbezerra166
@boanergesbezerra166 2 года назад
RU-vid has excellent videos this is one of them. I devour history
@myronsamila7493
@myronsamila7493 2 года назад
@@needforspeed9330 also a video about the Holodomor where Stalin's Russia murdered 3.9M Ukrainians.
@obamavrat671names
@obamavrat671names 2 года назад
Thank you, guys, as an Ukrainian from Western Ukraine and who's lives in central Ukraine for 20 years I'm thankful to you for spreading the true history and helping our people with showing useful links. Really, appreciate your work.
@jessealexander2695
@jessealexander2695 2 года назад
Glad you liked it.
@davebrayfb
@davebrayfb 2 года назад
@@jessealexander2695 Don't forget the Makhnovshchina, the Ukrainian Anarchist society, a real democratic socialist utopia crushed by the totalitarianism of the Bolsheviks as was the Green Army in Russia.
@brotherman1
@brotherman1 2 года назад
@@davebrayfb utopia lol
@davebrayfb
@davebrayfb 2 года назад
@@brotherman1 Yeah, that's why the Bolsheviks crushed it, you silly person.
@brotherman1
@brotherman1 2 года назад
@@davebrayfb Being sarcastic or what? If not then it's funny how a so called "utopia" can't even defend itself. Same type of delusions that come from anarchism.
@tombickman9292
@tombickman9292 Год назад
Excellent presentation...thank you for highlighting the massive and almost endless struggles of the Ukrainian people
@ilyanikolenko8446
@ilyanikolenko8446 8 месяцев назад
Russian people ukraine isnt a country
@naftade
@naftade 8 месяцев назад
Chinese people! Russia isn’t a country 😊!
@Wokerr
@Wokerr Месяц назад
Szkoda że nie wspomniałeś o ludobójstwie jakiego dopuściło się UPA z pomocą miejscowej ludności ukraińskiej na Wołyniu gdzie z rąk ukraińskich zginęło ponad 100 tysięcy Polaków w większości przypadków kobiety dzieci i starców w bestialski sposób kobiety w ciąży przecinano piłami odcinano kończyny siekierami. Oj jeszcze mało wiesz o tym jakiego ludobójstwa dopuścili się w latach 1943-1945 w tym temacie panuję cisza tylko rodziny ofiar upominają się o prawdę ale strona ukraińska zawsze ma jakieś tłumaczenia i nie potrafi przeprosić a pomoc Polski jest ogromna prawdą jest to że gdyby nie Polska Ukraina by poprostu nie dała rady to są niestety Fakty.
@glenncostello4486
@glenncostello4486 Год назад
So complex. I had no idea. Thanks for the podcast. So sad that they have been fighting for decades, if not a century. Glenn from Ozz
@mykola131
@mykola131 2 года назад
Considering that Civil War of 1917-1922 is one of the most complicated and multilayered wars of all time, with Ukraine being one of the hottest regions. It’s just amazing how accurate and unbiased this video is. I love how great you explained the urban/rural conflict, which was emblematic for that era. Thank’s a lot for your hard work, you are the future of History!
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 года назад
his work is propaganda fake news
@Oneofthemones1
@Oneofthemones1 Год назад
Europeans so fragmented no wonder Russia wants to consolidate and rule over these people. So many groups of people in a small area.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 2 года назад
If you want to support Ukraine right now and be certain that the donation makes a difference, these two charities were recommended by our friend Eduard from the RU-vid channel KGB Files. Eduard is currently in Kyiv. www.prytula-co.org/financial www.comebackalive.in.ua/donate
@_melnyk
@_melnyk 2 года назад
As a Ukrainian, I just want to say thank you so much for this awesome video and for your support🙏❤️🇺🇦
@ChugsACoffee
@ChugsACoffee Год назад
Another amazing video from the best history channel on RU-vid. The ending is priceless as well 😂
@Doc_Tar
@Doc_Tar 2 года назад
I can only imagine how hard Ukraine high school history must be after watching this video. Well done emphasizing the nature of the parties in conflict with each other over the destiny of this part of the world. The history of Eastern Europe makes more sense now after your presentation.
@odinatra
@odinatra 2 года назад
When I was in school we spent half a year on those three years.
@liubar5002
@liubar5002 2 года назад
My teacher considered this period to be the most complicated. Just the number of times Kyiv changed hands...
@violetsrayreikishop2
@violetsrayreikishop2 2 года назад
Boo hoo
@Animakozak
@Animakozak 2 года назад
It was. Still remember the face of our history teacher, giving us condolences for the year ahead. It really was one year of studying those 1917-1922.
@merocaine
@merocaine 2 года назад
@@Animakozak when did you go to school? has the teaching of history changed over the course of independence? I am interested in how the communists thought this period in Ukraine, was there a Ukrainian point of view still or was it all from Moscow's point of view?
@userRuslana
@userRuslana 2 года назад
Small correction: Grushevsky not only was not a nationalist, but was also its critic. He criticized nationalism and considered it a dangerous ideology. His work "Ukraine-Rus" is not an ode to Ukrainian nationalism, which he denounced, but a work to expose Russia's imperialist myths about Ukraine and its history.
@userRuslana
@userRuslana 2 года назад
@@Ehoproxy, выдыхай)))
@Dmytro.B
@Dmytro.B 2 года назад
Sure. Socialism was main stream at that period. Everybody was socialist in that time. Hrushevsky too.
@Dmytro.B
@Dmytro.B 2 года назад
@@Ehoproxy Ботам не роздають методички путіна англійською мовою? То хоч спробуй гугл транслейт
@iceking5121
@iceking5121 2 года назад
@@Ehoproxy московии 300 лет переименования.
@user-mf8rv4wb3g
@user-mf8rv4wb3g 2 года назад
@@Dmytro.B да не раздают. Тебе как будто дали
@tesfayekenea8533
@tesfayekenea8533 Год назад
Tks, I was looking for such vids!
@sawyer4713
@sawyer4713 Год назад
Great program and very timely and useful.
@nickmacarius3012
@nickmacarius3012 2 года назад
It seems like history repeats itself much. Great video! I feel that the chaos in eastern Europe & the Russian Civil War are overlooked in history. Perhaps we need a week-by-week series to cover this subject. 😁👍
@jessealexander2695
@jessealexander2695 2 года назад
Oh God what a nightmare that would be! We have done dozens of vids about though, just check out the older vids if you haven't seen them.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 2 года назад
that would be interesting for sure, not sure if it would be possible though. like even finding books that have a clear and detailed chronological narrative with all fronts covered? might be tough
@nickmacarius3012
@nickmacarius3012 2 года назад
@@TheGreatWar one can dream though 😂🤷🏻‍♂️
@georgedoolittle9015
@georgedoolittle9015 2 года назад
"Russian German War" starting on or about 1917 and ending in 1945 i think describes this condition with a strange and remarkable clarity ("The Bismarck Omen.")
@user-db6ot5wi7h
@user-db6ot5wi7h 2 года назад
Да,история циклична,в периоде 100 лет.....а значит последний раздел Польши не за горами)))))
@namiboosterhuizen6610
@namiboosterhuizen6610 Год назад
Thank you for this history lesson, very well explained.
@highphysics3617
@highphysics3617 11 месяцев назад
What a brilliant presenter. Jesse Alexander,you are remarkable. This held my attention from the very beginning. I will watch this again. Superb presentation. Considering the current situation in Ukraine,and,the invasion by Russia,it's heart breaking to witness what is happening to the Ukrainian people,yet again. May they be victorious over this Russian aggression,and,move to be fully independant from Putin,and,Russia. They deserve nothing less. Slava,Slava,Slava Ukraine. Victory will be yours. 🟦🟨🟦🟨 Sunflowers will bloom again in Ukraine 🌻🌻🌻🌻❤‍🩹🥺
@challalla
@challalla 2 года назад
Having taken a course on modern Ukrainian history at university, I was skeptical that one could really summarize that period accurately in a video. But this channel has done a spectacular job in this near impossible task of presenting a balanced narrative that includes all the key events. I learned lots that I didn't know about despite being more familiar with the subject than most outsiders. Of course, one could go into more detail on so many points; I see from many comments that people want to hear more about Makhno's anarchist movement. I for one would have liked to hear the mention of the Crimean People's Republic and their own abortive attempt at independence in the same period.
@Slavdya
@Slavdya 2 года назад
Or Kuban People's Republic, or Green Ukraine
@feelsgoodman666
@feelsgoodman666 2 года назад
Why there is not a word about Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic? It is a really important story line to understand the origins of today's crisis. It was founded three days after the government of the Ukrainian People's Republic (UPR) signed its Treaty of Brest-Litovsk with the Central Powers, which recognised the borders of the UPR. Later that year Soviets included Soviet Republic in newly established Soviet Ukraine. In 2014 Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic was invoked during the start of Ukranian Civil War in Donbass, when the legislature of the unrecognised separatist Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) adopted a memorandum on 5 February 2015 declaring itself the successor to the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic, and comrade Artyom as founding father.
@AT-kx6fj
@AT-kx6fj 2 года назад
@@feelsgoodman666 Because it is an inconvenient truth in today's era!!!
@mariam.3612
@mariam.3612 2 года назад
People, please do NOT take a course on modern Ukrainian history - it is all fake, made up stories, nothing to do with reality
@Slavdya
@Slavdya 2 года назад
@@mariam.3612 You don't exist at all
@larrygonzalez4375
@larrygonzalez4375 2 года назад
As a subscriber since 1915, it is great to see how you guys evolved from the "former" format. Your professionalism and knowledge are outstanding. The quality of the content presented surpasses the "big networks budget". Those last 5 seconds are pure GOLD!
@ooammo632
@ooammo632 2 года назад
You had to of been the very first subscriber
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 года назад
it is faked history hate against Russians
@jaw444
@jaw444 2 года назад
@@ooammo632 witnessing all of this, live and in person!
@richardcontinijr9661
@richardcontinijr9661 2 года назад
Yeah but I miss Indy
@alrent2992
@alrent2992 Год назад
@@ooammo632 really internet in 1915 😂🤣. I'm sure he meant 2015.
@Yustick_
@Yustick_ Год назад
I'm watching you from Ukraine, and I'm surprised that you described the history of my country in quite detail, even though you omitted the period from the Second World War to the 1990s, but this is explained by the specifics of your channel. I am very grateful for your work and support🤝
@applebloom3510
@applebloom3510 Год назад
Не перший рік дивлюсь матеріали на цьому каналі, тому було доволі приємно бачити, що подібні матеріали виходять, і більше людей дізнається про те, що це вже не перша війна, як і те, що Україну не "придумав ленін".
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j Год назад
@@applebloom3510 History hahahahaha I hate modern nationalists
@JoskyJojofan
@JoskyJojofan 9 месяцев назад
​@@applebloom3510он её не придумал, он сделал это государство, которое признал весь мир, а те собачки что создала Германия и Австровенгрия это некем кроме них были не признанные собачки, так что Ленин сделал украинское государство 😊
@freikorpsdamonisch8127
@freikorpsdamonisch8127 9 месяцев назад
@@JoskyJojofan it's just "victors write history", nothing more.
@JoskyJojofan
@JoskyJojofan 9 месяцев назад
@@freikorpsdamonisch8127 maybe, maybe
@ggg-cf9zl
@ggg-cf9zl Год назад
Such a great video! Thanks for your excellent job!
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek 2 года назад
I know it doesn’t get said a lot but you guys have a great editor
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 2 года назад
I will let him know :)
@waynejohnson1786
@waynejohnson1786 2 года назад
@@TheGreatWar I second this, show him some love for us.
@flyingcow4194
@flyingcow4194 2 года назад
Your production quality is through the roof as always. Just wondering if you’re gonna continue with “current event” videos about what was going on in the world in 1922 like the Unilateral Declaration of Egyptian Independence and later on the Chanak Crisis?
@branden3785
@branden3785 2 года назад
Ehhh, while overall it's generally great...the narrator sound recording leaves much to be desired.
@oil_can
@oil_can 2 года назад
@@branden3785 What issues are you hearing in the narrator’s audio track?
@ot8468
@ot8468 2 года назад
Украйнские народы заслужили быть мирной свободной страной. I love Ukraine. From Mongolia
@eliotness4029
@eliotness4029 Год назад
since 1773, when Empress Catherine the Great conquered Crimea from the Crimean Khan And until now --------- 80% of the population in Crimea is Russian. and a few percent of Ukrainians. I don’t understand at all why hereditary Ukrainians living somewhere in Lviv or Vinnitsa should go to Donbass or Crimea and kill people who live there and shout that this is my land, why do you need it? it is not ukrain. Crime is Russia, Yes, I know that Khrushchev transferred the Crimea in 1954 to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and where is the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic now? the Ukrainians themselves declared Khrushchev a criminal and declared all Khrushchev's orders criminal, isn't it. two-faced scum.
@bonanzatime
@bonanzatime 8 месяцев назад
How do you guys like, Ted Nugent? Since he's a Hippyfied Mongoloid Man
@EonServoXA
@EonServoXA 8 месяцев назад
@@crocolocothe commenter probably doesn’t, and you all know Russian too
@orleanist
@orleanist 8 месяцев назад
​@@crocolocobut understand russian
@aleksandrokolodko3592
@aleksandrokolodko3592 8 месяцев назад
Thank you much love to Mongolia from Ukraine
@johnmaafo4263
@johnmaafo4263 Год назад
Great work ! Very informative !
@mammuchan8923
@mammuchan8923 2 года назад
Excellent in depth summary thanks so much Jesse and team. I have watched a few on other channels too and it does help to put the current events into perspective. Thoughts and prayers for any family or friends of your team that might be caught up in the ongoing tragic events. Take care
@ivanmonahhov2314
@ivanmonahhov2314 2 года назад
Leaves out quite a few things. Like what was the fate of Ukranian National Rada, like they settled in Poland during interbellum and continued propoganda of independent Ukraine , just in the part of Ukraine that was part of USSR. In Poland speaking Ukrainian in public was illegal at the time. Also omits how a few industrial regions were appended to Ukraine to shift the balance of votes to pro USSR from pro independence.
@iqry11
@iqry11 2 года назад
Ukraine is Russia. Ukrainians are Russians. Russia was born in the 9th century in Kiev. It's the time to return Kiev to Russia. Ukraine is a new country, was born in 1917 as a result of the first World War and local separatism organised by Germany.
@oil_can
@oil_can 2 года назад
@@iqry11 Since Russia was born in Kyiv, perhaps it’s time to give Russia back to Ukraine. Please ask Putin to step down. We’re going to let Zelensky run the whole Federation from here on out.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 года назад
@@oil_can no it was Swedes viking who built kiev from the prince of Novgorod who was from east of Stockholm so ukraine an russia ares Swedish
@wilhelmu
@wilhelmu 2 года назад
@@ivanmonahhov2314 it also leaves out how entente offerd to guarantee wud's independence in exchange for letting poles have lviv, but wud refused and wanted to settle the matter by arms, which led to them being crushed by polish armies
@whee38
@whee38 2 года назад
It's interesting to see how fast the "anti imperialist" Communist Russia became an imperialist dictatorship. Shows how little their words actually meant
@ng.tr.s.p.1254
@ng.tr.s.p.1254 2 года назад
Pragmatism and power come before ideologies, after all.
@stadtrepublikmulhausen4121
@stadtrepublikmulhausen4121 2 года назад
Leninism was corrupted from the start.
@Worselol
@Worselol 2 года назад
Well, his version of history is quite biased. There was no Ukrainian nationality before 19's century. They were Russians who speaks with polish accent - so called Surzhik. There were no common rules for this language. In the middle of 19's century Ukrainians were rather a political party than nationality. They have tried to create a common language using most common types of surzhik. This idea was not very popular among Little Russians, because when someone called them Ukrainians they answered that didn't stole anything (Украина = Ukraine, Украл = Stole). From mid 19's century to the beggining of 20's polish agenda sponsored political movement of Ukrainians, so during the civil war bolsheviks recognised them as a nation to get their support. Ukrainian republic was created (west of today's Ukraine), as well as Donetsk-Krivorozhsk Republic (East and South of Ukraine). Citizens of DKR were upset with Lenin's decision to unite Ukraine and DKP, because citizens of DKR recognised themself as russians and didn't speak ukrainian. Bolsheviks have tried to forcefully "ukrainize" russians, but they didn't quite succeed. Almost everyone in Ukraine still speaks Russian. That's why Ukraine is trying to prohibit usage of Russian language - their nationality is artificially made Frankenstein and it's rotting. And that is the reason for them to praise Bandera and Hitler. Far-right nationalism to unite white european Ukrainians against "Mongol horde" of russians.
@artembentsionov
@artembentsionov 2 года назад
@@Worselol and your version isn’t biased? Ukrainian language has been in use since AT LEAST the 17th century, and Ukrainian graffiti on walls date back even earlier. Just because many Ukrainians understand and speak Russian doesn’t mean it’s their primary language. Russian was the official language of the USSR, so of course everyone had to learn it, and it’s been just 30 or so years since the collapse of the USSR, so naturally older generations speak Russian. Ukrainian language evolved from Ruthenian alongside Belarusian and Rusyn. Both Russian and Ruthenian evolved from the Proto-Slavic language. To say that Ukrainian is somehow artificial is ridiculous. How do you define whether a language evolved naturally or not?
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 2 года назад
@@Worselol putin bot explaining how ukrainians dont deserve independence.
@calvinr.johnsonjr.9076
@calvinr.johnsonjr.9076 Год назад
Must say I am impressed at the debts you gone with these videos. Saw four on this era and enjoyed the information that was given
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Год назад
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
@Eugene_Ko
@Eugene_Ko 2 года назад
Ok, several notes from Ukrainian. First. Great job, guys. I cannot overestimate the work done to untangle the mess our First Liberation Wars were. Second. It`s either "Central Council" or "Centralna Rada".
@kevinobrien8545
@kevinobrien8545 2 года назад
"I'm Jesse Alexander, and this is Real-Time History, the only RU-vid history channel that ...." Translation from Russian to English, please!
@WinFedor
@WinFedor 2 года назад
…that says: russian warship, go f… yourself! Except Jesse did not censor it at all
@masterimbecile
@masterimbecile 2 года назад
The same thing the Snake Island defenders said to the commander of a Russian military water vehicle.
@alexandrakruhliakivska6388
@alexandrakruhliakivska6388 Год назад
Thank you very much. You did an amazing job. Thank you for your work!❤❤❤
@antipopnews
@antipopnews Год назад
Great video! Very informative! Thank you!
@GEMINICT
@GEMINICT 2 года назад
Excellent video very well presented. Thank you for producing it as much effort and research went into its production.
@TheDarthbinky
@TheDarthbinky 2 года назад
I learned from Seinfeld decades ago that Ukraine is not a game.
@jjryan1352
@jjryan1352 2 года назад
Kramer was right. The Ukraine is weak.
@chrystya
@chrystya 6 месяцев назад
This was so helpful. I was just researching this 😮
@user-vy1bf4jx3v
@user-vy1bf4jx3v 2 года назад
Amazing research mate.
@Dark-7070
@Dark-7070 2 года назад
Excellent overview of the history and struggles of the Ukrainian people. Thank you!
@GwynBleys
@GwynBleys 11 месяцев назад
it sounds like you didnt understand anything.
@flyingcow4194
@flyingcow4194 2 года назад
The Bolsheviks complaining about imperialism while being imperialist themselves… name a more iconic duo
@dreamofspring7930
@dreamofspring7930 2 года назад
U.S.A. freedom fighters
@marianotorrespico2975
@marianotorrespico2975 2 года назад
@@dreamofspring7930 --- . . . and the first thing, after access to the women, is that the conquered people learn English.
@mva6044
@mva6044 2 года назад
Fidel Castro and Che Guevara?
@emrekoseoglu1680
@emrekoseoglu1680 2 года назад
Because there is only one power strong enough to deal with one imperialism: The other imperialism.
@Yanto_sangat_ireng
@Yanto_sangat_ireng Год назад
ah yes Mexico man losing 50% of their land
@janveit2226
@janveit2226 Год назад
A fantastic job done by this video to try to explain a very complex issue.
@jonesrick1
@jonesrick1 Год назад
That was a brilliant explanation and a brilliant presentation. Great work.
@robertward2172
@robertward2172 2 года назад
My wife was Ukrainian descent and being a WASP I knew very little about this region. Thank you for this program it has been very enlightening.
@danrook5757
@danrook5757 Год назад
Wasp? Is that like a communist or fascism
@madhukarjonathanminj2772
@madhukarjonathanminj2772 Год назад
@@danrook5757 i think it means White Anglo Saxon Protestant
@fbinformant
@fbinformant 8 месяцев назад
​@@danrook5757far, far worse than either!
@NG-fq5lf
@NG-fq5lf 2 года назад
Awesome video. Thank you so much for posting.
@smokymcpot5917
@smokymcpot5917 Год назад
Your videos are always entertaining and I always learn something. Thanks for the videos.
@rodjarrow6575
@rodjarrow6575 Год назад
"The Soviet-Ukrainian war" this is bullshit, is a lie in the title of this lying video for suckers of ignorance! Because: it was a civil war! Starting with the fact that the word Ukraine literally means borderland, alas, borderland is not the name of the people and not the name of the country. because this concept of "border territory" exists in every country of the world, every nation
@nate3010
@nate3010 5 месяцев назад
kudos for the impartial report !
@gethyper770
@gethyper770 2 года назад
greetings from Ukraine. Thanks for this video 💙💛
@user-su8ly2rx2i
@user-su8ly2rx2i 2 года назад
Вітання, друже
@galindimitrov8720
@galindimitrov8720 2 года назад
But u are still Russian brother 😀
@Sky_Guy
@Sky_Guy 2 года назад
@@galindimitrov8720 All the more savage this war is then, for Slavic brothers to kill each other for a tyrant's whim.
@ice-gy5cw
@ice-gy5cw 2 года назад
@@galindimitrov8720 who said
@yko_7313
@yko_7313 2 года назад
@@galindimitrov8720 you didn't watch the video did you
@Lerch-zc3ww
@Lerch-zc3ww 2 года назад
It seems to me that the Ukrainian people are long overdue for an extended period of peace and prosperity.
@pedromunozdones7869
@pedromunozdones7869 Год назад
Outstanding presentation!
@jamesvioleen
@jamesvioleen Год назад
great video! especially the ending ✊🏻
@jiawei309
@jiawei309 2 года назад
A wonderful look into the region's complex history. Thank you!
@user-um1tj5nm1g
@user-um1tj5nm1g 2 года назад
They forgot about Volyn and Donbass.
@GerardLouison
@GerardLouison 2 года назад
Very interesting and well-laid out history! It is a complicated history, but is the only way to understand why the people are fighting so hard.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 года назад
faked
@juanchovila9608
@juanchovila9608 Год назад
Very informative video lectures. thanks
@sballantine8127
@sballantine8127 Год назад
So delighted this just showed up in my feed this morning after having been made 9 months ago! Whoever or whatever is responsible for this, thank you!
@antonr2-d250
@antonr2-d250 2 года назад
As a Ukrainian I find this episode pretty informative. That was very hard and difficult period in our history when Ukrainian nation was born but was still divided and has no allies. Today we are united as never and feel support from all over the world so we will win this time. Thank you guys for this episode!
@user-tv7xs4hj1w
@user-tv7xs4hj1w 7 месяцев назад
We should mention the fact, Ukraine did have allies, notably the Germans, which then got defeated and they were left on their own.
@VonFreklstein
@VonFreklstein 7 месяцев назад
​@@user-tv7xs4hj1w you didnt see the video, it tells you that Germany installed a puppet dictator, while abolshing the rada. It was only interested in taking the grain.
@rabihrac
@rabihrac 2 года назад
Great to see TGW back to track! A captivating episode about Ukraine's past, 100 years or so ago. Thank you TGW. Cheers!
@jacobdexter6594
@jacobdexter6594 2 года назад
Paul Kubicek's quote about Communism is classic
@darynagladun7082
@darynagladun7082 Месяц назад
Thank you for your video! ❤
@RLB1833
@RLB1833 Год назад
Very informative! Thanks!
@MaciejRW
@MaciejRW 2 года назад
Masterpiece! I never seen (or read) so clear explanation of such complex period of European history
@rustybedsprings2733
@rustybedsprings2733 2 года назад
Wow. So much suffering. Both sides of my mom's family left the Odesa region in 1912 to Canada, Argentina and the US. They didn't trust the Bolshoviks. So much to learn. Thank you for your video.
@richardarriaga6271
@richardarriaga6271 2 года назад
Your Mom's family was wise.
@deadlyshot7548
@deadlyshot7548 2 года назад
@@richardarriaga6271 For not trusting the Bolsheviks? I would rather say that anyone that leaves Eastern Europe including Poland, etc. is smart.
@fourtuna91
@fourtuna91 2 года назад
В 1912 большевиков не было,
@user-jj1bp3es3j
@user-jj1bp3es3j 2 года назад
What Bolshevicks in 1912?
@ivansmirnov2819
@ivansmirnov2819 2 года назад
In 1912 nobody even knew about bolsheviks
@Vlad_the_Impaler
@Vlad_the_Impaler 2 года назад
Does it not remind the situation with Ireland under Brittan?
@timmyjones1921
@timmyjones1921 Год назад
A Very Eye Opening & Educational Video Indeed.
@shvydryhailo646
@shvydryhailo646 2 года назад
as a Ukrainian history major, thank you for this unbiased covering of my country's Second Liberation wars. Cheers from Kyiv!
@andrewaldrich3602
@andrewaldrich3602 2 года назад
Stay safe
@openeyes5015
@openeyes5015 2 года назад
He forgot to tell how Khrushchev gave Crimea to Ukraine. How Lenin gave the Baltic States.
@frocwin
@frocwin 2 года назад
@@openeyes5015 Lenin gave the Baltics to us? Damn, gotta visit the Ukrainian oblast' of Estonia 🤡
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 года назад
Chit Kyiv it is Kiev in English
@feelsgoodman666
@feelsgoodman666 2 года назад
Why there is not a word about Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic? It is a really important story line to understand the origins of today's crisis. It was founded three days after the government of the Ukrainian People's Republic (UPR) signed its Treaty of Brest-Litovsk with the Central Powers, which recognised the borders of the UPR. Later that year Soviets included Soviet Republic in newly established Soviet Ukraine. In 2014 Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic was invoked during the start of Ukranian Civil War in Donbass, when the legislature of the separatist Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) adopted a memorandum on 5 February 2015 declaring itself the successor to the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic, and comrade Artyom as founding father.
@romanarem
@romanarem 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing the story of my people. Have always admired your work, recently about Franco Prussian war. Best histoty channel on youtube period.
@wordscapes5690
@wordscapes5690 Год назад
Sir, the annoying background music is a distraction to you very fascinating and well-researched report. Please reconsider doing it in your other videos. It adds nothing, and takes away so much.
@graemestansfield6170
@graemestansfield6170 Год назад
Thanks for the interesting video.
@PhilipLaLonde
@PhilipLaLonde 2 года назад
Thank you so much. As someone who studied so much history out of books and classes, I'm glad to have a resource to hand the people I cherish. This is an ancient and inevitable conflict, if your historical memory goes beyond a century.
@mesofius
@mesofius Год назад
It starts when Kyiv, one of Europe's biggest cities, was approached by a massive mongol army in 1240. Most inhabitants fled to western Ukraine. But deep behind the dark forests, thousands of kilometers away, a formerly Kyiv-ruled Finno-Ugric tribe was absorbing Golden Horde ideology of expansion and exploitation. The Mongols have changed, but their freak child with Ukraine lives on.
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j 11 месяцев назад
​@@mesofiusAren't the Slavs, the inhabitants of Russia and Ukraine, just slaves in the age of the Vikings and the Mongols? What has changed?
@mesofius
@mesofius 11 месяцев назад
@@user-cg2tw8pw7j They had slavery but it's poorly documented and historians can't tell anything about it with certainty. Slaves were usually captives from a raid or a battle. But the Vikings quickly assimilated in Ukraine and within 50 years it's impossible to tell who is still a norseman and who identifies as a local Slav, since they all took local names and intermarried. Basically, it was similar to the conquest of England by the Vikings in many ways.
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j 11 месяцев назад
@@mesofius But these Vikings were selling them to the Arabs and the Romans
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune 2 года назад
I spent over 30 years in general ignorance of Ukrainian history, there are just too many great nations in our world, but the more I learn, the more I admire the Ukrainian people.
@calicocat8213
@calicocat8213 2 года назад
Read up on Volyn 1943, and deepen your knowledge. Your admiration may diminish, though, since a handful of photographs is available if you look diligently enough. Hope you can sleep at night.
@royale7620
@royale7620 Год назад
You are lying, nobody looks up to Ukraine, besides on how to be corrupt and get away with fascism maybe
@Comrade_Blanc
@Comrade_Blanc 9 месяцев назад
Did you also learn about Bandera? Do you also admire him?
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune 9 месяцев назад
@@Comrade_Blanc Guess we better all hate Germans, they had Hitler. Russia had Stalin who got millions murdered. How about Tens of millions Chinese under Mao? Come to think of it, no country is really clean in history, so best don't show any support!
@edv2920
@edv2920 8 месяцев назад
​@Comrade_Blanc and what's wrong with Bandera? What court or tribunal convicted him after the war? Who officially recognized him as a crime ? Only soviet propaganda? What about Nuremberg trials?
@andrewvisser5805
@andrewvisser5805 Год назад
I found this article very interesting. Thank you.
@nickames3808
@nickames3808 Год назад
Maaan! You and this Channel are really great! We Know and Understand when we Watch and Listen!
@marks_sparks1
@marks_sparks1 2 года назад
This was a fantastic even-handed account of Ukrainian independence in the 1918-21 period. Great script writing and narration by Jesse and the editing and photography top notch. I'll share this video to my friends
@jessealexander2695
@jessealexander2695 2 года назад
Thanks!
@slewone4905
@slewone4905 2 года назад
It isn;t The Eastern part was not part of the original Ukraine. It was added when the Soviet Union was created. Donetsk-Krivoy Rog . The Eastern half was controlled by Cossacks and the Czar invited settlers to the region.
@physiocrat7143
@physiocrat7143 2 года назад
This conflict i's a product of the nineteenth century nationalalisms which caused WW1, but still not resolved. The Russian narrative is equally valid. Best to keep away.
@crunchy6556
@crunchy6556 2 года назад
@@slewone4905 you had one job... Donesk-krivoy rog republic was anarchist and anti czar, head of it was Mahno. Infamous tachanca's with Maxim machine guns are from here. At times they were allied with bolshevics, but generally fought against anyone
@lubatatarinoff9672
@lubatatarinoff9672 2 года назад
@@slewone4905 neither was Crimea nor Southern Oblasts.
@tonybaker55
@tonybaker55 2 года назад
A very well put together concise documentary, that brings home the struggle that Ukraine has gone through for over a hundred years.
@ludmilaivanova1603
@ludmilaivanova1603 2 года назад
not only Ukrainians suffered: the whole Europe was fighting a not needed to ordinary people war.
@tonybaker55
@tonybaker55 2 года назад
@@ludmilaivanova1603 absolutely right. My grandparents and parents suffered from 1914 to 1945 in the UK.
@dmytro_palahniuk
@dmytro_palahniuk 2 года назад
Great video!
@a.leemorrisjr.9255
@a.leemorrisjr.9255 2 года назад
As with all the Great War segments, this one's excellent! Sheds much light on a long troubled land & its rich, colorful, but often tragic history. I know "Indy" is proud of you all!
@rdelrosso2001
@rdelrosso2001 2 года назад
Very informative video! I never knew the early History of Ukraine. I knew that the Austria-Hungarian Empire existed before WW I. I did not know that the AUE contained about half of present day Ukraine.
@florianmarcelmaca8785
@florianmarcelmaca8785 Год назад
Da ai dreptate. Imperiul austro-ungar avea trupe Hungary Lituania, Estonia, Letonia, slavi Polonia. Erau soldați și din România Transilvania, erau și flamanzi, italieni,danezi.... Soldați făceau un stagiu militar cam 20-25 de ani, apoi rămâneau unde era cu armata, în acel moment,se căsătoreau in zona. De acea erau multe dialecte, germanice in Romania, Ucraina, Polonia,de azi. Așa aveau germanicii intrare. Încă ceva, lagărele de concentrare au fost păzite de soldați ucrainenii,care știau citeva cuvinte, foc ,stai (halt,gheabol,gut, ferstend)⚔️ pentru asta se zice că au fost fasciști, apoi au devenit bolșevici, comuniști și ce au mai ajuns.... In orice caz, ce a fost era istorie, nu mai trebuie sa condamnat. Eu cred că mă trag din străbunic, soldat din imperiul austro-ungar, dar nu știu ce naționalitate era.
@user-pb6wk7ko4d
@user-pb6wk7ko4d Год назад
Austria-Hungary is important part of Ukrainian history. Austrians helped us realize ourselves as unique independent nation. Austrians let us form proto Ukrainian army - Ukrainian Sich Rifleman. At the same time russians were oppressing Ukrainians during several centuries, what later led to russification of eastern lands of Ukraine
@eliotness4029
@eliotness4029 Год назад
since 1773, when Empress Catherine the Great conquered Crimea from the Crimean Khan And until now --------- 80% of the population in Crimea is Russian. and a few percent of Ukrainians. I don’t understand at all why hereditary Ukrainians living somewhere in Lviv or Vinnitsa should go to Donbass or Crimea and kill people who live there and shout that this is my land, why do you need it? it is not ukrain. Crime is Russia, Yes, I know that Khrushchev transferred the Crimea in 1954 to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and where is the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic now? the Ukrainians themselves declared Khrushchev a criminal and declared all Khrushchev's orders criminal, isn't it. two-faced scum.
@teresaolszanka112
@teresaolszanka112 Год назад
There is an explanation for why you never knew the early history of Ukraine. There isn't one. Ukraina, Europenized to Ukraine was originally the name given to the stretches of land along the Polish Crown and Kievan Rus border. The border came into existence in 1630 after Poland annexed the Kingdom of Ruthenia which bordered Kievan Rus. Ukraina means "the outermost edge/boundary" in Russian and in Polish. There was Ukraina on the Polish side and Ukraina on the Rus side of the border. There is a substantial difference between a name given to the area and a territory or a state. For example, the Kingdom of Ruthenia existed before the lands previously belonging to Ruthenia were given the name of Ukraina/Ukraine. Kievan Rus as the name suggests was Rus. This is where the name Russia comes from. Russian Empire began with Kievan Rus in 9th century, or even earlier with the settlement named Old Ladoga which later evolved into the capital Kiev. There were 2 other seed settlements: Vladimir and Novgorod. Some 300 years later Muscovy Rus began to emerge from a tiny insignificant settlement on the banks of river Moskva, then grew in relevance and size and eventually overtook its "parent" principality Kievan Rus. The tiny settlement eventually became Moskva (Moscow) the capital of Muscovy Rus. Both Kievan and Muscovy Rus were ruled by members of the same family/dynasty - Rurik/Rorik/Hroerekr. The founder was Rurik (Hroerekr) of Ladoga. Rurik was the Prince of Novgorod and Vladimir. His son, Ivan/Ingvar became Prince of Kiev as well as Prince of Vladimir and Novgorod. The first Russian ruler given the title of Tsar Ivan 1st was Rurik's descendant.
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j 11 месяцев назад
​@@user-pb6wk7ko4dHistory hahahaha
@ariaatmar9489
@ariaatmar9489 2 года назад
Great explanation!
@sanperez797
@sanperez797 Год назад
Thank for video , very educational
@janchimiak2734
@janchimiak2734 2 года назад
Some points to add from the Polish point of view: 1. Initially all military units in the west (both Polish and Ukrainian) had origins in the former armies or Austria and Germany. Some of them formed from former soldiers after 1917 while some were active as full units throughout the war (e.g. those originated in pre-war Polish movements in Austrian-controlled areas, where both Poles and Ukrainians had a degree of autonomy). Only later the Poles were reinforced by former members of the French army (under gen. Haller). The phrase "support from the Entente" is a bit of an overstatement - it was more so in e.g. Paris then on the ground. 2. The Polish-Ukrainian war of 1918-1919 was less organized then it seems from the video. It's the whole problem with "areas of the map colored in one color" which implies a level of operational control which simply did not exist at the time. I suppose it's the same for other areas at the time. 3. In 1920 the Red Army did push Poles back to Warsaw - and was trounced there (a victory ad nauseam feted by Poles). The peace treaty that followed, signed in Riga, gave Poles control over areas significantly beyond Curzon line (e.g. with significant Ukrainian and Belarussian minorities). It's worth mentioning because it's remembered in Poland as .. the betrayal of Petlyura. Among the Poles of the time two concepts clashed: a buffer-state Ukraine and "grab as much as can be held and polonized". The latter won. It's worth adding the obvious: what's presented is, out of necessity a simplification. Great job with that. To give it depth: try to fit the minor naval skirmishes on Dnieper river between Polish and Soviet river navies in this narrative. Hard to imagine, isn't it? Plus all those pogroms... Plus Lemko republic. And so on... Co
@jessealexander2695
@jessealexander2695 2 года назад
You'll be happy to know (I hope) we did a whole video on the Polish-Ukrainian War, and several on the Polish-Soviet War (including one in which we cover the Polish-Lithuanian War). Check out our previous videos.
@tiein
@tiein 2 года назад
Great video! I really enjoyed it overall. I'm wondering if you would do a video sometime on the Maknovist anarchists. My family is from the region and suffered heavily from them, but they are interesting regardless.
@BarbaRa-sx7qw
@BarbaRa-sx7qw 2 года назад
Hi, if you don't mind, could you share what your family experienced from Maknovists? I'm new here and lots of new information for me!
@andreychernyshov5775
@andreychernyshov5775 Год назад
The closing line was a surprise... But a welcome one) Thank you
@user-fb3cp5xt8j
@user-fb3cp5xt8j 2 года назад
Thanks so much!
@mijuraut
@mijuraut 2 года назад
A great, concise overview of the steps towards Ukrainian independence, well done. Thanks to The Great War channel, for teaching history in this wonderful format. As the Ukrainian independence movement was happening simultaneously with Finnish independence movement (in 1917), I feel Ukrainians were helping Finland's cause, even if Ukrainians were not aware of it. If Lenin didn't have his hands so full with the civil war in Russia and Ukraine, I feel we Finns might have ended up as part of the USSR too. Luckily we managed to escape communism and gain and later hold on to our independence. So thank you, Ukrainians. It's just too bad you ended up on the wrong side, and having to live nearly seven decades in Soviet Union, with all its atrocities.
@vincentlefebvre9255
@vincentlefebvre9255 2 года назад
Finns are one of the most courageous people in the world. Salute from Canada.
@Anton_Danylchenko
@Anton_Danylchenko 2 года назад
According to Ukrainian wikipedia: Diplomatic relations between the Ukrainian State and the Kingdom of Finland were established in 1918 - this year the embassies were exchanged (however, since the early 1920s the Ukrainian People's Republic has maintained relations with the Republic of Finland through its embassy in Berlin), On August 9, Finnish consuls were appointed in Kyiv and Odesa. States mutually recognized each other. The states were interested in economic cooperation - Finland was interested in receiving bread and sugar from Ukraine, and Ukraine - in Finnish paper, but Germany opposed this. Despite German opposition, after lengthy negotiations, on September 30, 1918, the parties succeeded in concluding an agreement to sell 1,000,000 poods of paper to Ukraine by the Finnish Paper Mill Society in exchange to 350000 poods of sugar. The total amount of the agreement reached 30,000,000 Finnish marks, a third of which was to be paid to Ukraine as an advance. The German government described the agreement as a "hostile activity" and made it conditional on the transport of the goods through German-occupied Riga to supply a certain amount of butter from Finland to Germany, putting the "Paper Agreement" on the brink of failure. It became impossible due to the retreat of the German army (the first batch of Finnish paper for Ukraine, worth about 4,500,000 marks, remained in Riga and in January 1919 was confiscated by the Bolsheviks).
@mykhailo4472
@mykhailo4472 2 года назад
Freedom, like nature, will find a way.🇺🇦🇫🇮 Slava Ukraini!
@diewolken6125
@diewolken6125 2 года назад
У війні 1917р. Фінляндії з росією, українці воювали на боці фінів проти росії. Вам допомогли та на жаль самі не змогли
@openeyes5015
@openeyes5015 2 года назад
He forgot to tell how Khrushchev gave Crimea to Ukraine.
@gabra5253
@gabra5253 2 года назад
it was much more later
@openeyes5015
@openeyes5015 2 года назад
@@gabra5253 Then why does he show that Crimea is part of Ukraine, if he was Russian. This speaks of hypocrisy and lies. Crimea became Ukrainian after Khrushchev gave it illegally, without a referendum
@lambodia
@lambodia 7 дней назад
​@@openeyes5015Is that the only issue you have with the map in that part of the video? You're not concerned about the borders of UPR and BPR being completely off? Surprising how easy a Russian 'history fan' can be triggered.
@fernandobazo6369
@fernandobazo6369 Год назад
Excellent video
@CapybaraTut
@CapybaraTut Год назад
Thank you for your support of Ukraine. It's precious and we are so grateful!
@WalterReimer
@WalterReimer 2 года назад
Thank you for the historical context, which is at times (Who am I kidding? All the time!) is lacking from mainstream media accounts of the present conflict.
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 2 года назад
Ukraine: We are an Independent Republic within the USSR. Stalin: And I took that personally.
@Nazar_Melnyk
@Nazar_Melnyk 2 года назад
Yeah, "independent"
@randomtanker4355
@randomtanker4355 Месяц назад
​@@Nazar_MelnykBolsheviks confuse me. On one hand they support "self-determination" (as long as they are not imperialist) but at the same time they tried to preserve as much territory of (ex-)Russian Empire as possible under the guise of "proletarian unity", thus prompting Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Georgia, MRNC, Finland, etc to ally with Central Powers....
@Nazar_Melnyk
@Nazar_Melnyk Месяц назад
@@randomtanker4355 Bolsheviks were never about self determination. They pretty openly declared themselves as a dictatorship of singular party, saying that they represent interests and aspirations of workers and villagers. And whomever disagreed with them or wanted a different representation (before Bolsheviks culled all competition, there were several other socialist/communist parties) they declared to be enemy of the revolution and their points regarded as invalid. Saying all this, however, I want to point out that they were not only ruthless, but smart about how they manage thoughts of the populus. While they shot down any alternative ideas about economics, at first they weren't so radical with the national aspirations. To take away any strong ideas from possible opposition or uprising, they created puppet states and autonomous republics, implemented policies of "localization" (any national "-zation" appropriate in a region ) wherever there was any strong national/ethnical sentiment that could be weaponized against the regime. That way they bought themselves a decade to get hold of the state and its economy and become too strong for any uprising to tople, later only to strip any previously given national freedoms to consolidate the reemergent empire.
@Nazar_Melnyk
@Nazar_Melnyk Месяц назад
@@randomtanker4355 In short, their policies were meant to confuse, so it is understandable to be so.
@randomtanker4355
@randomtanker4355 Месяц назад
@@Nazar_Melnyk communists are professional at infighting and deceiving i see
@user-zy2jp6zj9r
@user-zy2jp6zj9r 2 года назад
Klass Video ! Super Video !!
@utzoqiel8408
@utzoqiel8408 Год назад
Well done, bro !!!
@tfsheahan2265
@tfsheahan2265 2 года назад
Is there any culture, or country that has not suffered their own reduction upon associating with Russia? It seems all of eastern Europe has been diminished, at least, from living just in Russia's vicinity. Is it any wonder they seldom smile, at least in comparison with the West?
@Felipee_ehe
@Felipee_ehe 2 года назад
Well there is no mention of the IIWW, where they did also fight for the independency shifting sides and being more radical then ever before. Not condeming them, but OUN-B was a dark chapter of Ukraine history for many Poles.
@krutu4na_masa
@krutu4na_masa 2 года назад
Бандера був українцем і боровся разом з ОУН за незалежність Україні як проти Польщі так і проти СССР. Треба визнати це, тим паче ми українці поляків вважаємо друзями.. Польскі державні діячі захищали польскі інтереси, а українські діячі -українські інтереси. Все логічно. Зараз не треба звинувачувати один одного.
@Felipee_ehe
@Felipee_ehe 2 года назад
@@krutu4na_masa sorry i cant copy or translate what you wrote
@krutu4na_masa
@krutu4na_masa 2 года назад
@@Felipee_ehe Bandera był Ukraińcem i walczył z OUN o niepodległość Ukrainy przeciwko Polsce i ZSRR. Trzeba to przyznać, zwłaszcza że my, Ukraińcy, uważamy Polaków za naszych przyjaciół, polscy mężowie stanu bronili polskich interesów, a ukraińskie postacie broniły ukraińskich interesów. Wszystko jest logiczne. Nie musicie się teraz obwiniać.
@07Studio
@07Studio Год назад
@@krutu4na_masa I think you have oversimplified. Nobody holds a grudge against Bandera for killing the Polish interior minister Bronislaw Pieracki, for example. Those were the times, killing a political opponent was a popular method of struggle. Unfortunately, in Volhynia, innocent civilians were murdered. It was ethnic cleansing - the aim was to cleanse the area of Poles so that it could not be recognised as Polish. Women and children were killed in the most brutal way. Ukrainians from mixed Polish-Ukrainian families were also killed, as were Ukrainians who hid Poles from being killed. This is not a political struggle, it is genocide, or at least ethnic cleansing. The bodies of those killed are still lying in the fields and forests. There are no graves, no crosses, no plaques, the Polish President Duda has laid flowers in a field of rapeseed. We are not saying this to blame you, because it happened 80 years ago. It's just that this issue is unresolved and Russia is using it to divide us. And it can do that because the Ukrainian side has refused to settle it for 30 years. Now is not the time to deal with it, because there are more important things, but after the war this issue should finally be settled.
@krutu4na_masa
@krutu4na_masa Год назад
@@07Studio In the 20s, Poland occupied part of Ukraine, and there were also murders, evictions, repressions, bans on everything Ukrainian. So even if we assume that there may be some true the criminal acts of Ukrainian nationalists on their land against the Poles are the consequences of the occupation of Poland. Why should I trust Polish and Russian sources who were enemies of Ukraine at that time? Do not occupy another nation and you will not get what you got.
@SainJust-1789
@SainJust-1789 Год назад
thank you so much..wonderful
@PedroFerreira-ze5yp
@PedroFerreira-ze5yp 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video! I appreciate that ending!
@yeenit7816
@yeenit7816 2 года назад
Thank you so much for such a great job. It’s a very hard period of our history and it’s so easy to get confused in it. And thanks a lot for supporting Ukraine in such a hard period ❤️🙏🏼
@donaldcarpenter5328
@donaldcarpenter5328 2 года назад
Believe it or not, OUR HISTORY is very "complicated" too here in the USA. Even our prominent history writers like Meachem GLOSS OVER much nuance that, once fleshed out explains alot.
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