How Ukrainian DIY Drones Are Taking Out Russian Tanks | WSJ 

@@henryg3313 Yes a Javelin works differently than drones and has advantages like being fire and forget (the operator only needs to lock on, launch the missile and its guidance handles the rest) as well as a sophisticated tandem warhead that will defeat Russian explosive reactive armor. That said FPV drones are extremely cheap in comparison to a Javelin and have a ton of versatility.

*It's the first step to full-on Robot Warfare. If we don't do it you can bet RUSSIA and CHINA sure will!!!!*

I believe in the near future they will be banned or something because this is just the beginning and if a count like the US or Russia used thousands of these on a country like Ukraine then war would have been very different. And plus it’s like a mine where you can’t even see it till you’re missing body parts

Drones offer over 1000 fold cost/benefit

You just now catching onto this fact?

everything is flying can be use for fun, peace and war as well. It's depends by the Human Brain... (sad)

We thank you for your service in developing the technology in its early years.

I’m waiting for the day we see a power loop with a wall ride into a dive hitting a gap in a roof sunlight to hit a tank hiding in a building.

​@@ik1mdfthey use it to survive, they donxt have another choice, it's sad in other way and not in using technology the wrong way

What is the best website to check for getting Into drone racing?

the after math was that he looked like unsuccessful kidney extraction surgery on morticians table

Yeah, that guy was probably blown to bits. I bet his guts were all over that scene. But, he certainly did not feel pain.

I think its okay to hit equipment but hitting personell is cruel. For both sides. I dont think the pilot feels great after diveing that thing into a person...

@@TheDanteVergil All is fair in love and war.

Absolutely legend!

Civilians shouldn't be warriors. Imagine a country where everyone knows how to make a Molotov Cocktail, a DIY drone or an IED. Doesn't sound safe, does it?

@@JohanManchester no need to imagine, thats Ukraine

@@SirCat07 That makes civilians active targets.

The problem is that civilians don't have the same protection as regular soldiers do, if they use lethal weapons. They're not considered soldiers and won't get prisoner of war privileges. They also loose their civilian privileges in war. Not that the Russians have cared so far though... Either way, it's highly risky as a civilian to take up arms, more so than soldiers. Even though I'm sure many would want to.

@@TheAlienpope Exactly my point. Thanks for clarifying it in a more concise way, as English is not my native language. The government urging the civilians to take up arms is highly irresponsible which has most likely led and will lead to more civilian deaths than otherwise.

They call drone bird

Actually, it is the opposite. But the cheaper it gets, the faster it gets replaced. So, yeah. In a certain sense, you are correct.

@@BayuAH In some instances, the cheaper units are more difficult to destroy, simply because the weapons capable of reasonably being used against them just weren't meant for that purpose. Like, a small recon drone. If it's high up, it's going to be extremely difficult to hit it with small arms, so the only thing that can reasonably expect to take it down is probably a missile. But that missile was designed to strike much larger targets like helicopters or manned fixed-wing aircraft, so they're a lot more likely to fail against a smaller, cheaper target.

Welcome to the world of open source technology. Finally it has found its way to the mil tech

Yep, I learned that strategy in playing BAR when players use the Tick rush because their cheap and have too many to destroy fast enough. Really bogs down your weapon systems

zerg rush

Dude… take a second to think about what you wrote. Japanese kamikaze pilots cost lives and caused pain and suffering, and these drones are doing the same. Don’t treat it like a joke or a game.

Artillery is still the king of battle. The West keeps convincing themselves that technology will be magic. Afghanistan should have proved this thinking incorrect. But still this magical thinking persists.

The same is said about the converse, though. Iranian-made Shahed-136 drones cost about $20,000 to make, but it takes Ukraine about $500,000 to shoot each one down (they're using NASAMS short- to midrange air defense missiles). Long story short, BOTH sides are having a big drone problem, but Ukraine is unfortunately receiving the brunt of it, due to the Iranian made ones being sent to Russia in huge quantities.

Horses, swords and catapults oh my.

Drones are great, but drones carrying nukes are even better, like Poseidon.

just wait till electronic warfare planes jam everything

If you didn’t live under a rock you would know china just released a video of exactly that ☝️ we are doomed

Russia already have that system on bigger drones.

Why though? For range? The current drones Russia is using are easy to move and small

There already is one newly developed by Rheinmetall that can drop 3 FPV drones, the carrier drone itself is acting as an radio relay

You can learn in about 10 hours. I was slow at learning it. So with the motivation of war behide you you proaable could learn that in about 5 or 6 hours.

@@Togher01 You can fly like a beginner in 10 hours and well in 100h. For Mastery you need like 300-1000h from my experience.

@@franciscohompler2773 yes your haven't mastered it it at 10 hours. But if the goal of it is to crash the drone in a tank, 10 hours is probably enough.

@@Togher01 If you want to fly into a tank at 40kmh you need around 100h. I would argue you need accuracy but of course its dependant on the target

These consumer drones really don’t require much learning cost, Lol.

He died a painful death after invading another country 🤷🏽‍♀️

@@aidancreager4095but that’s a bit overkill don’t you think?

​@@joe6398um no

⁠@@joe6398better than slowly bleeding out and dying of a bullet wound. all deaths in war are brutal. there is no easy way out

​@@user-hk2vt2ky4k Imagine if that was your brother or your son

Good thing its only orcs!

@@tellyboy17 totally stupid comment. Complex of ''superior race'' ?

@@tellyboy17 I love how you Westerners adopted Nazi ideology of superior race so quickly lol

@@tellyboy17 Ummm.. sweaty, according to a NATO-General (Xi/Xer), the approved terms are "Slavic Untermenschen occupying our rightful Lebensraum", please use this terminology correctly, ok?

​@@maxxar92 nope, the correct term is orc and the 4 million cluster shells that have been unlocked will help with the orc infestation of Ukraine

Yeah what a way to scratch a tanks paint wow just wow

​@@Wokculture69kremlin bot kek

Russians are doing the exact same with drones. Only thing is: Russians have better electronic warfare systems and more drones. Ukraine must negotiate or vanish.

Who do you think is paying for this?!

@@captainamerica3814 the type of creativity is something that can't be bought with money. It's a aspect of their character/society/ingenuity/motivation/and willingness to bend the rules to try & see if new things work. If not, adapt it until it does work . *I wish we could do more of that here in America. That's all.

There a SciFi Book where two teams are on a computer game and during their virtual fight, same actions are real on a far away Battlefield. Young gamers don't know they are piloting real weapons, real troops, on a real War.

the drone killstreak from call of duty modern warfare 2 💀

Battle master tank reporting!

Dude, C&C Generals Zero Hour? That was a gem of a game. It's gotta be one of the best RTS games ever made. So much fun. And to think it came out in 2003 and the factions are US, Islam and China...when you think about it in 2023, 20 years later, those three factions are the ones we see IRL.

And probably tape is better than metal brackets or fittings… no radar signature

@billyb6001 100 percent correct but people don't understand. Thanks you sir. I had a argument about this I was out numbered.

Not how it's defined today. Near hit and near miss are synonymous.

@@queueeeee9000 so nearly missing something isn't a near miss?

@@billyb6001 A near-miss is when almost something really bad happens. Say, a truck stalls on a railroad and a train is heading right towards it. At the last second, the truck moves out of the way. That would be a near-miss.

@@queueeeee9000 thats dumb !

No Abrams will be taken out, only russia losing with their shovels, almighty Ukraine will win, unless media is lying, which they obviously telling the truth.

Can't fight a war with just drones, that's like having soldiers with no body armor and just more weapons, makes you weak to the weapons you doubled down on

@@mitchellcouchman1444 "only drones" Text book straw man argument. 300 million is a fraction of a larger number. It was a conceptual argument pointing out poor investments.

@@KharlHungus large numbers of drone are already being sent to ukr and have had a massive impact on the war but if they run out of tanks then the effect is dire. Is sending over priced tanks designed for a very different environment a good idea, probably not but these old Abrams don't cost their sticker tag anymore. Saying they are a $10 million dollar tank when as far as I'm aware they are stripped of western era and have already been in service over a decade is America over pricing their contributions. Turbine powered tanks are a bad idea without good logistics and when your opponent can out range you it strains logistics so having a fuel hungry tanks is a bad idea. There's a reason they prefer even old Leos To my point would more drones be of benefit to Ukr, possibly, what you miss is how many drones are destroyed every day in this war. Turkish drones have been sent and are being lost by the 10s - 100s per day. That's why the Iranian derived 1 use drones are great, they are smaller, as they don't return they have a good range, and are only really detectable at audible and visual range. Making then a very effective drone at low prices.

@@Shinshocks555 you are massively underestimating the era of the T90. The logistic issues the M1 will cause due to fuel consumption. The T80 has become the most deserted tank in the field as a ratio due to its fuel consumption as it to is a turbine.

Украинское мясо точно так же разлетается от российских дронов, вместе с кулачками. Радоваться этому взаимному убийству славян могут только англосаксы.

you probably don’t know that Russia is doing the same thing, and in terms of the ratio of drones, forces are not on the side of Ukraine

Yeah I'd fly into the hatch of the tank, fly into the windows of vehicles. You could get 12 pilots flying at the same time. I'd do swarms of drones to maximize the amount of fear.

I was with you until you said that they could Dodge missiles.

​@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 FPV drones are too small and maneuverable to be easily hit directly by a missile. FVP drones are very different from filming drones like DJI and the ones you show on your channel.

Yup, Betaflight. It's crazy to see the FPV race quads that I and many others have been building for fun all these years turned into kamikaze weapons. I think everyone in the drone hobby knew it was easily possible, but it's just nuts to see the fuzzy analog DVR footage of it actually hitting targets. I'm surprised Russia can't easily jam the TX/RX, but maybe their capabilities are truly overblown.

Bomb Drone in CoD Warzone is straight reference

Depends on the game. I play stuff that lets you load a Humvee with C4 and absolutely ruin the enemy's day.

I bet some of the new tactics are based off videogames, most military personnel under the age of 30 have played a CoD or Battlefield or any other futuristic War game at least once

similar to switchblade 600, basically a commercial suicide drone. So more capable than these DIY quad copters but much more expensive

@@chamonix4658 switchblade are more expensive because they have targeting software with AI integrated.

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WSJ will probably never report it, but the Russians are using far more of these FPV drones. Lancet drones take out dozens of tanks/ artillery pieces each month, if not each week. Russian military has improved vastly (at great cost) since February 2022 and is now grinding up the Ukrainian counteroffensive

​@@akshittripathi5403Lancet is decent but They're not doing that much more work than fpvs. Also because of the distance it operates at the lancet has a lower kill percentage. Because the fpvs operate basically on the front line of they disable a tank it's much harder for the enemy to retrieve the tank and take it safety since follow up strikes happen a lot of the time , while lancet operates at intermediate distances and if they don't take out the equipment on the first hit they're much easier to retrieve and tow to safety .

You better get over there then....

That type of drone would be shot down before it can do any type of meaningful damage. The only benefit of these fpv drones is they are small and agile.

Leopard don’t fly like Russia tanks

@@yihuda7459 still the effectiveness now in question.

That is simply not true. There are various estimated costs for both Leopard 2(A4 and A6 variants are given to Ukraine, not the latest most expensive A7) and T90M, but there's no 10 times difference, maybe 2-3 times, depending on the source.

@@shlyupendrenec 1 leopard 2 stock version cost around 11 million USD while T-90M cost around 2.5 M USD. And thats before inflation. According wikipedia.

I think they’re harder to detect because of the communications signal being harder to intercept, not because of the image quality.

I've yet to see any of this footage on RU-vid/media. You only see one side of the war depending on which continent you live on.

​@@ConsensusXred efffect has some videos about it

​@@laksamanaagiladitya1093yeah, good channel, found it recently too

Can you google it for us?

How do you cope that Russia is no longer a superpower? Ukraine is gonna leave Russia toothless

submarine drone that could target sub are a deadly threat but good like finding an enemy sub in the first place in the very vast ocean also it's will be probably hard building sub that goes under water cause of you have to factor in the water pressure and you need to build a sub that is smaller and compact that the enemy sonar couldn't detect but if someone manage to build this kind of drone sub and manage to find ways to locate enemy submarines nuclear submarines would be in potential danger

Destroying an armored vehicle by means of a drone and sinking an attack or missile submarine by drone are different things. Quite possibly for the United States losing a submarine due to a drone attack or not would mean a declaration of war, and going to war with the United States is something that everyone would avoid.

Until the they start using your radio signal to track your position, we are only at the early stages of drone warfare and they are quickly being nerfed in effectiveness

@@mitchellcouchman1444 meh. it's only wifi, and doesn't reach far - at least on mine, and most of the commercial ones. that's why the ukes have to guide it from so close to the target. by the time the find it, it will be over by then. you apparently have no experience with commercial drones.

@@skip123davis if its short range that further creates issues with use and WiFi is traceable like all forms of signals and jammable which many are experiencing, without a reasonable range their use is very limited

I hear the Ukranians are sending Hornby train sets with grenades attached.

Yeah its a misleading report.

When in position, on site, russian tanks have a camo net above them and many drones explode in that net, with little or no damage for the tank. Some 'beautiful explosion' vidéos are failed attacks.

Russia is doing the exact same, but slava nograin🇺🇦🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

To the last Ukrainian! (not long left)

You can't fight a war with these, just like you can't just win a war with artillery, otherwise why are both sides still using tanks? Most tanks are lost to commercial drones or artillery though.

They do not outperform arty, arty is still the leading cause of death and injury

Notwithstanding that, the cost/benefit for drones case is immense. Ultimately drones could outperform arty as kill all machines. They just have to locate arty and destroy them. As long as they are significantly cheaper, drones will ultimately outperform all battlefield vehicles, except perhaps anti air. However head to head pitted against each other, drones still outperform arty. It would come down to tactics. You just need a drone that can detect and target arty with a large enough warhead. 1000 drones will be cheaper than 1,000 arty pieces. If they both start at the same time against the enemy, drones will win, because they have greater range, so the drones will detect arty, well ahead of arty detecting and destroying drone forces. Yes arty have a greater firing rate and can cause more destruction, however they have to get closer to their target first and in a one on one race, all else being equal, drones have the advantage over arty. i.e. anti arty drones appropriately deployed. When AI vision becomes standard for drones ( as available commercially ), arty will have nowhere to hide. The AI vision tech is already there, but it's being held back. The nature of war will change and arty wont be able to get close to targets with sufficient drones in place to defend against attack. They just need drones specifically designed for arty. Not only that however, once the payload capacity and firing rate of drones is improved, it will be game over for anything on the ground. We are just seeing the beginning of this type of warfare. Anyway my point was with regard to cost/benefit of drones vs tanks and arty and that aspect is very clear.

@@JoeyBlogs007 they are not currently out performing arty in the future im sure but not rn

Much depends on tactics applied also. Drones can seek and take out arty munitions dumps. So once they identify the arty, the munitions are close by. They just have to take out the munitions dump and then the arty is disabled for a period of time. Larger drones can be called in to take out the arty with heavier drop munitions, or they can provide GPS targeting coordinates for GPS arty of Kamikaze drones. Based on the 2 million dollar arty piece, even if a Kamikaze anti artillery drone cost $4000, that's still 500 anti arty drones for every one arty piece. Even if it takes an average of 3 drones to disable one arty piece, that's still around 166 to one cost advantage of the drone against the arty. So they could take out 166 arty pieces using drones, for the equivalent cost on one arty piece, based on a conservative 30% effectiveness efficiency rate of the drone.

He'll feel that in the morning.

@@Sdakouls3 I don’t think he’s feeling anything now

That drone would not be $50 by the time US Military gets it. Probably $50k each

"Reclass in an instant" ... good luck with that.

How about we have a competition that brings the best of Western minds to see who can build the best / most cost-effective military drone, with the winners getting a large award funded by donations, with people like Star Wars actor Mark Hamill and others leading the effort.

Russia converted an old mall into assembly plant for drones. They are using 100s of kamikaze drones per day. Many other plants are operating. Russian drone production and innovation is huge.

Cope? Lower bound 90% of the drones from china we are not talking about parts, then that’s prob 95% of parts at minimum. Even reporter can’t ignore the existence of drone supply from China in video. Chinese manufacturers still biggest beneficiaries from this type of warfare

Yep weyr cost 100x millions roubles ))

Lazers have a massive problem, they need super capacitors and a nuclear reactor to run then, they are currently only a naval weapon and I don't see that changing soon

@@mitchellcouchman1444 They are also notorious for being sensitive to jostling/perturbations (plus weather) - Anything military that is going out to large amounts of vehicles has to be ruggedized. Which is easier said than done.

it's not that big of a question. as the drones operate via radio signal, they just have to jam it. a piece of kit as big as a modem could do it effectively. the thing is tho, that it just won't happen. both putin and his generals are braindead and rigid. they can threaten with nukes, but they can't adapt. russia is not prepared for modern warfare, and with all the embargoes i doubt they could get all the chips and semi conductors necessary to mass produce the required equipment, even tho it isn't a big deal at all. putin and the russian military are both had beens.

@@allaci17 you're delusional, they are already jamming many of the drones... Even many of the military ones let alone the little civilian drones

​@@mitchellcouchman1444 all the drone attacks in the last few shows how delusional you are. you think the jammed drones did 200M in damages the last few days? :DDDDD EVERY SINGLE vehicle needs a portable transmitter, and there has to be a stationary transmitter every 200-300m in cities to have the border jammed. portable transmitters have a range of about 15m, stationaries about 100-150m.

Yeah but they’re still trying to catch up with Ukraine. You’d see a lot more videos posted by Russians forces doing this if the had invested in the tech earlier 😂

There are also (electronic) counter-measures. It's a constant cat-and-mouse game.

@@Niven110 as far as I can tell, it’s pretty even on FPV platforms, and Russians have a gigantic edge when it comes to loitering munitions like the lancets.

​@@Niven110 you are in the dark,the lancet drones has no competition in this war

@@Niven110 You don't get to see the Russian side because most media are pro-Ukrainian, most Russian videos get downvoted, disliked, or reported while it's the opposite when Ukrainians post theirs. Also, the RUssians are busy winning on the battlefield while Ukraine is busy winning on social media.

Stop supporting Nazis. 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

@@nastynas9610 It really sucks when a fascist regime invades a neighbor and kills civilians without any reason.

@@nastynas9610 Russia started this war so those who value freedom should be supporting Ukraine and hoping to see Russia decisively beaten.

I can only imagine how much motivation I would have if a foreign country wanted to take land on which my family members are buried, as well as everything they are doing to my country and its citizens.

Same because it would be pretty safe as your far away from the enemy. But I feel it would be pretty demoralizing to watch your drone fly into human beings.