15 minutes total run time or 15 minutes straight? Like, in a theoreticall track where it can reach the speed for a moment but then have to break and turn stuff. But then again, the engine and transmission probably wont last that long without breaking either.
15 min not in total, it's meant as 15 mins straight. Putting load on tyres causes them to heat up quite quickly. A 1.9 ton car like the Veyron at 250 mph is an insane amount of load the tyred have to bear, so they can only do it for 15 minutes at a time before they get so hot that they overpressure (remember air expands when it gets warm) causing them to start breaking down and risking a blowout.
@@ConnorWood-i5x Yes it is... Michelin provides tires to a lot of brands beside VW... Losing the germans would be a blow, obviously, but it won't make them go bankrupt.
Career tire industry person here. To be clear, VW is a very, very large original equipment (OE) account for MIchelin. But it's just one of many, many, many. Losing VW would have hurt Michelin, but to say Michelin would've gone bankrupt over losing one OE account is pretty ridiculous. Otherwise, pretty cool story and the new Bugatti's are pretty sweet.
This video is the biggest croc of shit I ever saw. Michelin was never anywhere near going bankrupt as they are the most successful tire company in the world.
Also Goodyear was developing tires that could handle much higher speeds since the 70s. And a lot of aircraft tires are rated for 220+ mph landing speeds
@PuerRidcully True. But they don't change the tires every single landing bro. Usually around 300 cycles. Which on the heavies comes out to about an hour. On an aircraft in the 75000 - 100000lb dry weight.
@@superiorradio4540 Callaway held the record for fastest street driven vehicle, the Bugatti Veyron was still slower (253mph) it took the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport to beat the Callaway.
Well the Veyron exists because Ferdinand Piech (CEO of VW Group at the time) wanted revenge against the French (specifically Peugeot) for taking the top speed record at Le Mans from his Porsche 917 with a purpose built race car to beat that record. Piech wanted to beat Peugeot’s race car with a road car that was wrapped in leather with a radio and AC. That’s why the top speed is what it is, rather than just being 400km/h it was 408 in order to beat the Peugeot’s 407… I recommend watching Jason Cammisa’s video on the Veyron as well as his video on Ferdinand Piech, he’s a journalist for Hagerty and all of his videos are awesome. My other favorites are on the Rover SD1, Lotus Carlton, and Mercedes 300SL Gullwing.
As a business person, I doubt Michelin would have gone bankrupt from loosing their VW account, I’m pretty sure they have more than one big account. Yes it would have hurt their sales but not to the point of bankruptcy.
Aircraft tires are not built like car tires, learn more. And drag cars' tires aren't street legal. The title of fastest *production* car requires it to be legal. There's a reason when you look up the fastest car in the world you don't get custom build results but production results
@@brightonhansford3926 the video says fastest car in the world not fastest production car. The land speed record cars beat it going back to like the 40s. On tires.
@@danielkarcis1174 reference what I said. No one says "fastest car in the world" and means any land vehicle. It always refers to production cars, unless it is specified that you are including *all* land vehicles. And the land speed record is held by ThrustSSC since 97'.
@@brightonhansford3926 you are really cherrypicking to defend the vid bro. Neither they would go bankrupt, nor designing such tyre was rocket science. There was no product like that in existence only cause there was no other car that went that fast with the exact measurements. Yes plane tyres are built differently, but they take higher forces as well. Sure landing/start doesn’t take 15 minutes, but they last HUNDREDS of them. Also what a stupid take with the search results. You get a result that is searched the most, not the best answer. RN the answer you get is speed for Jesko Absolut which hasn’t even been confirmed. So there you have your „fastest production car” being a car with theoretical speed.
That's a lot of lies. Michelin already made tires for f1 cars back in 2001. Bridgestone and Pirelli have developed tires that can easily withstand +320 km/h (250 mi/h if you're monolingual)
The real issue is that the tires have to be capable of running flat at full speed without causing, well, death. I'm sure plenty of tires can reach that speed but the car won't survive if they burst.
Michelin had way too many manufacturing plants at that point in time to be threatened into bankruptcy by tiny percentage of a niche market, by a company selling a handful of cars per year that needed these tires...
The VW CEO at the time Ferdinand Piech wanted to create the fastest car in the world. Bugatti just went bankrupt at the time, so he bought it and made it into the bugatti we all know today. He was the grandson of Ferdinand Porsche btw.
We had tires that were meant for that speed well before then but they weren't meant for the road. Some racecars had tires built for that and obviously drag cars
It was $42,000 because Michelin spent millions and millions and MILLIONS of dollars to get the R&D done to make this possible. They had to recoup the money spent. Knowing that not many tires will sell since not many bugs were needing of tires as much they jacked them up and no you can get the whole set with wheels for 30k
15 min at a time at 250mph so you need breaks in between to let the air inside the tire to cool down. Not 15 min total. They'll definitely last a full track day or two.
LOL This is the type of crap that proves anyone can upload a video saying anything they want whether it’s true or not doesn’t matter. I assure you Michelin isn’t going out of business over a single car or even a single brand of car, especially a car produced in such limited numbers like the Veyron 🤦🏻♂️
@@gm6892 or f1 cars from the 70s and 80s, yeah the top speed wasn't as high but the load on the tyres due to the downforce and cornering speed was miles higher than the Bugatti going in a straight line, this video is just talking nonsense
You missed the part where Volkswagen was going to pull out of all their contracts with Michelin. That would’ve absolutely crippled Michelin due to Volkswagen making up a majority of their tires sales.
@@gm6892yes but the Mcclaren wasn’t using street legal tires for that pass. That’s the whole point. Before the veyron there was no street legal tire that could perform that well. The F1 had on race tires when setting those records.
Michelin had an exclusive deal to manufacture tires to all cars under VW umbrella, and almost ended because Michelin couldn't do it for the Veyron. VW would have gone to Pirelli or Bridgestone and Michelin would have had to close its doors.
@@phawxhunterDo you have any clue how dumb of a statement that is? Have any idea how big of a company Michelin is? Maybe do some research so you dont look so ignorant commenting on stuff you obviously know nothing about.
@@Why_Cant_I_Use_My_ProfName 0.1? Bro, what? And what Kyle said, in game, probably Forza. This fuck doesn’t have any Bugattis in irl. Tryna get attention like a sad shit.
I worked for Dunlop motorsport for 12 years. They would have made those tyres no problem at all. But they no longer build tyres here in the UK anymore thanks to Goodyear.
Dunlop doesn't have recognition it should have... I got dunlop tires on heavy farming equipment - they are pretty damn tough. Solid recommendation from farmer
Meanwhile, 1987 the Calloway Sledgehammer was a 250+mph Corvette that used street tires made by Goodyear. Michelin didn’t think it was impossible to make such tires, they just thought it was impractical and they didn’t want to do it.
This. Making tires that handle 250mph isn't difficult. Wheel driven Land speed record cars have reached far beyond 300mph with rubber tires. But those had giant circumferences which are impractical in a road car. They also don't have to deal with rain, potholes, corners and other junk usually found on public roads. In short Volkswagen demanded tires that could handle top speed while also retaining full everyday drivability like your average 195/65 R15. Which is a lot more expensive to develop. The OEM Veyron tires are also Runflats requiring special tools to actually service and replace.
@@mrspandel5737 Making tires to handle 250mph is not easy at all. Nor is it cheap. Perhaps you should educate yourself a little better before you spout off like you know some...ANYthing.
In the early 2000s OEM VW Audi group were around a 1/3 of their sales, loosing that could have bankrupted Michelin, though it would be a headache for VAG to replace them with another brand in all their factories, dealerships and service centres.
@@fritztm9261 Michelin passenger tires aren’t the main source of their revenue. They sell OTR, Tractor Trailer, Agricultural, and Earthmoving tires, two wheel, aviation, etc.. The idea that one company of passenger car brands in one product segment, a segment making up only 12% of their company revenue, could bankrupt or deal even a glancing blow to the company is ludicrous.
I can’t find much information on the subject, most sources just point to this video or very similar videos. I imagine that ending the contract would hurt Michelin but probably not bankrupt them, it would have also hurt VW which was already hurting because of the financial crisis at the time.
They are the same as train wheels,solid steel. I've seen them in Coventry transport museum,west Midlands UK.🇬🇧🇬🇧 They've got the prototype that set the land record speed. Looks more like a racket than a car 😊
That "High Tread, Inspected Used Tire" stickered tire image is of a Vredestein Ultrac Vorti (Netherlands production) tire. I run those on my 2003 BMW X5 V8 in the Texas summer heat.
@@hercegovac9999 Yeah, that’s why I said Michelin with losing ground with competition couldn’t afford to be hemorrhaging business but obviously they didn’t think so.
@@ietekoeke Michelin tire is not on base model of the car so not much modela have michelin tires… it would have big impact if the contract had been cancelled but not nearly enough to cause bankruptcy…
Customers demand Michelins and VW complies, when anyone wants high perf tires they go to Michelin. Deere threatened to go elsewhere if a certain plant didnt build the tires they wanted, and the company brought back retirees to make it happen though. VW tried to tell customers you have to buy the Castrol oil from us too, but a quick call from Lubri Moly lawyers halted that instantly.
Funny, considering the first flight of the SR-71 was in 1964 and its tires rolled down the runway on take off at 240mph at a gross weight of 170,000lbs.
Michelin est une compagnie solide, elle fabrique les meilleurs pneus au monde,elle n'a jamais été en faillite, tous ses concurrents essaient de copier Michelin.🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵
The crazy thing is that the car was built at a time when tires that complex just didn’t exist so there was no way of knowing its full potential until the tires were developed
Correction, they didn't need to build tyres that could handle the speed, the needed tyres that could take the weight of the boat trip high speeds. Agera managed to do faster with off the shelf tyres with with tread to do the run 6 more times
Cap because the 1988 Callaway Corvette aka the sledgehammer used 17-inch Dymag aluminum wheels with specially-made Goodyear tires. And it hit 254 miles per