How WARLORD ZSINJ was defeated at DATHOMIR | Star Wars Battle Breakdown 

EckhartsLadder Hello there

[147th ask] Krogan vs Brutes

EckhartsLadder Forerunners vs The Imperium of Man. (Halo vs Warhammer 40k)

We going modern Imperium or Great Crusade era Imperium? Cause the latter had literal gods running around. Roboute Guilliman wrote a book which contained every possible eventuality in war. Or Konrad Kurze dug his way out of the core of a planet with denser bedrock than Earth as a child. That stuff is going to mean a lot, so it's an important distinction.

George Lucas oh my god why was this so perfect😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Legends Chewie knows a moon when he sees one. He's got up close and personal experience.

@@justafaniv1097 ohh my god XD. I get the joke

Yes we get it, Zsinj is fat 😂😂😂

When the Fat jokes are actually funny

I would still rather use the operation cinder satellites over the orbital night cloak

I know right. I'm surprised Eckhart didn't mention it

Agreed

I can arrange that

Wtf i......

Which is why the book has the Iron Fist as a regular Imperial class Star Destroyer, and we also know that the Mon Remonda was present for the battle.

Hmm, not sure I remember that. I recall some German audiobook called the Iron First the Sovereign instead.

I read the german version as well and wasn't the space around the planet full of docks with the Iron Fist being in repair after the last X-Wing book and Zsinj using a regular ISD as his temporary command ship?

Fipse Thats what i remember aswell. Zsinj using a huge spacedock/Repairyard around Dathomir to repair the heavily damaged Iron Fist while being onboard a normal ISD. I could also sweaf that the Iron Fist never got repaired completely and got just shot to scrap still helpless without weapons & shields after Zsinj was killed.

@@ironvader502 If it was without weapons or shields, why not use it for your own purposes?

Nope, not yet. Not a battle breakdown anyways.

Everything yuuzhan vong related is garbage, but to be fair that goes for most of the EU

No thanks, Courtship of Princess Leia is garbage

It isn't that bad. For the record want to introduce new factions and planets wich are more midblowing rather generic.

Perhaps it still Can be

The worst part is its more difficult to get the books from the eu

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Oscar Medina Thanks. I’ll fix that.

He already did this

Warden - there’s a higher chance of The Completionist completing Yakuza 0

Crazybawrks He did a similar video, but only using ships from Star Wars.

I always liked Zsinj (and I especially liked the Wraith squadron stuff) because his entire run was him being clever, and then him getting beaten by others being clever. There was very little in the way of luck in those books, baring the capture of the Night Crawler. He built himself up, took on both the imperials and the republic, eventually bit off more than he could chew, and then got outplayed at the end. He was over-confidant, but for good reason unlike most.

Yeah he basically got overshadowed by thrawn. Reborn palpatine. And natasi Daala

@@declanbennett1085 Indeed. He was not stupidly overconfident. Overconfident, but just by a bit not by much. And also unlike a lot of other imperials you could see why he commanded such loyalty because he was tough but also fair. He never executed anyone for trying their best but failing only for dishonesty and concealing failure instead of owning up to it. It is also why the New Republic and other warlords saw him as such a threat. He could win.

Ardus kaine and ysanne isard deserve also respect

I appreciate him .

In the book the Iron Fist is just a regular ISD, not an SSD.

Really? Interesting, seems they retconned it to be an SSD in the X-Wing book series. Makes more sense that way if you ask me.

I'm pretty sure Zsinj is said to have at least HAD an SSD, with Han thinking it destroyed. The novel may have been unclear on what showed up later though. It's been quite a while since I last read it.

Zsinj actually had at one point in time two SSDs (though only briefly), the Iron Fist and another one called Razor´s Kiss, which he stole from Kuat. The latter was sabotaged by a covert ops team of the Wraith Squadron during the Kuat mission and was subsequently destroyed. After that, Zsinj collected the remains and later used them during a battle with Han Solo´s battlegroup to fake the destruction of the Iron Fist. If I remember correctly, he utilized a stealth ship (which had the remains of the Razor´s Kiss attached to its hull) to hide the Iron Fist, which then jumped into Hyperspace. Meanwhile, the stealth ship destroyed itself, throwing what remained of the Razor´s Kiss in all directions. So when republic scout ships scoured the battlefield in the aftermath of the fight, they found debris from a SSD. Coincidentally, Zsinj had the remains of the RK plastered with the name "Iron Fist" and one of the pieces survived the self-destruction more or less intact, leading the Republic to believe that Zsinj had lost his remaining SSD. In truth, the Iron Fist was still intact, although heavily damaged and retreated to Dathomir for repairs.

No, it was the SSD Iron Fist. The Victory class Iron Fist (after Zsinj got promoted) ended up in the unknown regions under some other commander. I think the reason the Hapans didn't care to salvage it was that they didn't like the class, and were under command of a frankly irrational prince. I mean, at the beginning of the novel the "poor" worlds of the consortium were said to be giving ISDs as their contribution to the dowry (despite ISD's outclassing both Battle Dragon and Nova vessels) so its pretty clear they prefer their homegrown classes over imperial salvage. Another thing is it isn't as easy as you'd think to salvage viable hulls in star wars (The loss of the Razors Kiss would be a good parallel). With the reactors and fuel reserves taking up a huge portion of the hull, by the time you've defanged a capital ship you've probably crippled it beyond repair. The Lusankya SSD took something like 5 years (and that was considered a short timeframe) to get combat ready again, and it only had to deal (mostly) with strikes by startfighter grade munitions.

*clicks* dead meme!

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Darth Vader LORD?! I thought you were dead

The satellites would mostly be on one half on the planet mostly and what you described is what they are but they absorb instead of block, even jamming sensors. A real way for a planet to respond would be having starfighters unless those are destroyed

coming up on infra-red NEEEEEVEEEEERRR!!!!!!!

if you´re talking about stargate replicators, then star wars universe don´t stand a chance. imagine all the resources they will get from the death star, game over.

Replicators vs. The Borg

Dont know enough about the borg but seeing how the replicators durability is based on the material they consume, i´d say replicators, although i dont know if borg has some anti robo weapon shit.

Expensive and explosive.

Charles Lathrop They're compensating for something...

its actually hundreds of thousands of crew members so its even worse

the issue is the Iron Fist was prety much doomed before the shot. Zisinj was truying to rebuild his forces after a crippling loss and the Fist was damage in that battle. so with him dead tghe Iron Fist lost it's last chance to pull somethign off and was thus battered to death.

This is inaccurate. Iron Fist was still badly damaged from the battle of Selegis. It was in dock for repair to its hull, engines and shields. It was strafed by Song of War in dock and was not anywhere near battle ready when the Hapans arrived. Further all of Iron Fist's TIEs had been lost back at Selegis.

Bruce Jedi Lee seraph stomps

The old republic did not exist during the clone wars, that was the galactic republic.

The Old Republic was the Republic before the Empire. Tarkin even calls it that as does Luke

Highly doubt that. X-Wings are probably around the same speed, they are also smaller and has more weapons

Bruce Jedi Lee some of these I can answer Tau run over the first order no questions asked Flood are gonna overwhelm the xenomorphs Chances are necrons will win out against nids X wing beats Seraphs

Same

I enjoy it, it's just dumb

Joshua Gilbert Wuffa Worms

I enjoy it as a comedy.

I had some surprising fun for it, cheesiness not withstanding. Also, Zsinj was INVENTED for the book. It was the X-Wing novels that fleshed him out as a villain.

It's still a good book. The Hapans and Night Sisters get introduced and Zsinj gets whacked. Not to mention the best line of dialogue in the book. " Kiss my Wookie".

Cool

Dark Helmet would win without a problem

@@wilkor-lc7ox *win

@@Death-bd1tl damn, i didn't noticed when i was writing it, thx

@@wilkor-lc7ox np

When I read the book I always pronounced it Zinsij. I know and knew it is incorrect but I had no idea how to say that wierd name. So I created my own pronunciation

The fighters need reinforced plot shields to destroy Super Star Destroyers.

100% American Buffalo You forgot Space Marines as well

100% American Buffalo Spartans stomp no contest

Knower of truth I know the Spartans will beat the N7s but the question is at what cost as the N7s have the same equipment, abilities, and probability even experienced but N7s greatest asset is team work as a Spartan so the N7s would already know to how the Spartans tech and abilities but the Spartans wouldn’t know what the N7s abilities are. In a one on one fight the Spartans would win but in a squad vs squad fight the N7s would probably win.

100% American Buffalo no Spartans have advantage in every way m8 and sending out a squad of them more or less spells doom for anyone the receiving end unless it's a Spartan 4 then it's a toss in the air.

Covenant Fleet snipes

I don't think it would work out that way.

Its way too vulnerable. Any random starfighter could easily disable the whole thing. If the enemy planet has literally no capacity to defend itself from orbital attacks whatsoever, you could accomplish the same thing with orbital bombardment. If the Nightcloak didnt have the whole 'a single satellite loss disables the entire network' clause it would be fine.