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How was Life for History's Most Hated Queens? 

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Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into we are looking into the life of various queens who were disliked and even hated in the country they reigned!
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@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Check out my video on Insane Queens: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Pslxs4PGa6o.html
@emilien.
@emilien. 2 месяца назад
Have you done a video of the most beloved queens and if not, would you consider doing so?
@greekre
@greekre 2 месяца назад
friansico looked a goer, leg up for him
@ELKE-
@ELKE- 2 месяца назад
Back to relisten to your videos before I sleep. This is the 2nd one. Thank you for your great work on your videos. Listening to the ads also.
@floraposteschild4184
@floraposteschild4184 2 месяца назад
People talk about the Hapsburg jaw -- but what about the Hapsburg nose? Yikes.
@peggyjaeger9280
@peggyjaeger9280 2 месяца назад
And to think the artist probably tried to flatter them, so they must have been even uglier. LOL
@jamellfoster6029
@jamellfoster6029 2 месяца назад
LMBO 😂😂😂😅😅
@DulceN
@DulceN 2 месяца назад
That’s the typical Bourbon nose. Maria Luisa was a very unattractive woman, see Goya’s portraits.
@jeni040866
@jeni040866 2 месяца назад
Females tend not to HAVE haemophilia unless they are unlucky enough to inherit the fault from both parents. they have two X chromosomes so the healthy one is dominant but males have only one X chromosome which may have the fault on it and nothing to prevent it's expression. Women can carry it as several of Victoria's female descendants did and can pass it to their daughters as carriers and sons as sufferers. Think it is thought to have originated with Victoria via a spontaneous genetic mutation.
@suzannehall5200
@suzannehall5200 2 месяца назад
I have always wondered how Queen Victoria inherited it. It can’t made her a carrier out of nowhere. There must be some genetic pathway before her and some record of it in her ancestors.
@jeni040866
@jeni040866 2 месяца назад
​@@suzannehall5200Spontaneous genetic faults do happen though and I suppose that as royal families are better documented than most it was thought that something would have been recorded if it had been noted before. It is possible that if it was present other illnesses killed them before the haemophilia so there was never a pattern to see or they had unaffected children as it is something of a genetic lottery but I suppose the most logical explanation is that it did originated with her given there is no mention of it in her family before her and presumably it did not express in close relatives of hers who were not descendants of hers. For example Victoria's half sister by her mother had sons whose health might have been reported on.
@hollieBlu303
@hollieBlu303 2 месяца назад
Thank you for explaining it in finer detail. Really. I'm fascinated by medical channels. History focused channels are another of my favourites (this one is soooo underrated). Your understanding is truly valuable to a layman. My thanks. ...and keep on the love for this channel! He is the BEST!
@janeyrevanescence12
@janeyrevanescence12 2 месяца назад
I think it was proven recently that the older the father is, the more likely it is that his children will have a spontaneous genetic mutation. IIRC, Victoria’s father was in his late 50’s when Victoria was conceived.
@superlizrocks
@superlizrocks 2 месяца назад
*barely pubescent children marrying first cousins from the family wreath* "None of the babies are surviving! Shes cursed!" 🙄🙄 But i love the way you tell stories. 🤩
@peggyjaeger9280
@peggyjaeger9280 2 месяца назад
🤣
@royalproductions8704
@royalproductions8704 2 месяца назад
As a Portuguese myself, I think it’s wonderful to see more people talking about our beloved Queen Amelia on RU-vid. Amelia was simply an amazing person, a devoted wife and a great mother. This woman did more for my country in just 18 years than all the first ladies of the Portuguese Republic combined, and to me, this was a great video! I really liked how you used photographs and paintings of the period. Great video! But I would like to point out a few aspects you missed, and please take this as constructive criticism because I enjoy your videos :) 1# - Amelia and Carlos already knew each other prior to their wedding, so in any way, they started “dating” according to letters written between Amelia and Carlos shortly before their wedding in 1886. Also, Amelia did speak some Portuguese around the time of her wedding with Prince Carlos. 2# - The Royal Wedding Mantle that Queen Amelia wore on her wedding day is currently in the National Museum of Coaches in Lisbon (this museum was also founded by Queen Amelia in 1905 to preserve the older carriages and coaches of the Monarchy). I work there, and I had the honor and privilege to hold it while helping staff move it down to the workshops to be restored. 3# - Queen Amelia was someone with whom you could talk very openly about anything, and she was, for her period, very down-to-earth. Not just her, but the Royal Portuguese Family around this time was very accessible, and on that note, the word “subject” was no longer in use in Portugal since the establishment of the Constitutional Monarchy in 1834, and if memory serves me right, this word “subject” was, let’s say, abolished with the 1838 Constitution (Page No. 2 / Article II) since it declared the Portuguese people as “Citizens”. 4# - Angola and Mozambique weren’t achired around this time; they were already part of the Portuguese Empire since the 15th and 16th centuries, but what happened was that in 1883, with the Berlin Colonial Conference, Portugal was forced to explore and expand into the interior by the larger colonial powers like France, Germany and of course, the UK. In fact, the borders that Angola and Mozambique have nowadays been the same ones from the 1880s. 5# - Cecil’s Rhode’s ambition of building a transcontinental railway from Egypt to South Africa was also one of the main reasons for the British Ultimatum. In many ways, King Carlos I and even his father, King Louis I, had nothing to do with the Pink Map Project; this project was commissioned by the Portuguese Government, by the Lisbon Geographical Society, and by the Geographical Commission of the Portuguese Ministry of Marine Affairs. Not only some ministers and politicians doubted that Portugal could have a coast-to-coast empire, but even King Carlos I was skeptical of these colonial dreams. 6# - By the early 1900s, Portugal was not indeed an industrial power, but that didn’t mean the country was industrialized; we had a railway system that boasted 2380 km by 1900. During the reign of King Carlos I and Manuel II, 10 new railway branch lines were opened by them. The Tejo Power Station was built in 1909, and several other buildings, like public schools, where built around this time by the Portuguese Monarchy. A perfect example is the Camões Secondary School, built in 1905 following the approval of several important reforms to the lyceum educational system. 7# - When Portugal declared its first bankruptcy on January 29, 1892, shortly after the consequences of the British Ultimatum, King Carlos I and Queen Amelia decided to give away 20% of their salaries to aid the country in its difficult time. In fact, they also stated that until the financial crisis could be solved in a short time of period, the government was instructed by the King and Queen to cut 20% of the Royal salaries for the next few years until the end of the crisis. 8# - Queen Amelia created the National Institute of Assistance for Tuberculosis on August 17th, 1899. Amelia didn’t simply create one hospital there; this woman had created an entire national health care system in the 1890s. The goals of this institution were to build a hospital in each district capital, and these hospitals weren’t just to treat tuberculosis; they also served to treat all kinds of people if they were sick and, as well, assist large families and their mothers. By the time the Monarchy ended in October 1910, 5 sanatoriums and 12 hospitals where built in Portugal by this institution, which was under the personal protection and patronage of Her Majesty Queen Amelia. 9# - The Portuguese Socialists around the 1900s where not anti-monarchy. During the reign of King Manuel II, many Socialists formed special friendships with Portugal’s last King because Manuel was deeply dedicated and interested in the struggles of the working class, and the young King wanted to improve the living and working conditions of the people. Manuel II met and befriended many socialists between 1908 and 1910, like Azedo Gneco and Alfredo Aquiles Monteverde. Luis Figueiredo, a Portuguese socialist, said in a speech in 1897: “The Crown has the virtue of acting as a moderating institution”. 10# - During the Lisbon Regicide, Amelia did protect her family members by standing up in the carriage. This is somewhat incredible since Amelia was a very tall woman (she measured 1.86 cm in height). 11# - The modern idea that we have of King Manuel II as a young, naive, but nice King is somewhat a product of not only our modern perception, but also something that was created by the Republicans in the late 1900s. Manuel II was 18 years old when he was Aclaimed King of Portugal on May 6th, 1908 and even though he did not have the same political education his brother had, Manuel II tried his best to bring stability to the country in the early stages of his reign. When he toured the North of Portugal, he was hailed and received with all honors, and the people were very enthusiastic about the new monarch. Many photographs that can be seen in newspapers and magazines of the time show huge crowds cheering and supporting Manuel II. What Manuel lacked was support from the Nobility and the Government, who were more busy fighting themselves than helping the King to fulfill his duties as a Constitutional Monarch. 12# - The Portuguese Republican Party was founded on ultranationalistic and colonialist values, and this party only existed in the suburban areas of Lisbon and Porto, thanks to the Freemasons and to the armed violent faction known as the Carbonária (a terrorists anarchist organization that was behind the Lisbon Regicide of 1908 and the Republican Revolution of 1910), but outside these areas, the Republicans were hated, due to the fact that a lot of Republicans were upper class, almost aristocratic snobs who some, like Afonso Costa, believed that the rural world of Portugal shouldn’t even have the right to vote. The Portuguese Republican Party used its power in parliament to boycott several attempts by the Monarchy to reform the country, and they would spend their time making life miserable for socialists. Many workers unions were banned and outlawed by the Republic between 1911 and 1915, and several Socialist newspapers claimed they preferred to have King Manuel II back. 13# - Ironically enough, João Chagas wrote in 1908, his published “Political Letters - Volume I / Page 41”: “Thanks to him (King Manuel II), the monarchy played for eleven months the role of a form of government compatible with freedom and order. 14# - The Republican Revolution of 1910 only occurred in Lisbon, and it began on October 3rd, 1910. Contrary to popular belief, the Portuguese government was expecting this, and they ordered several Army regiments to “stay put”. Most of the revolutionary leaders were linked to the Republican Party and, of course, to the Freemasons. Another misconception is that the army and navy simply up and abandoned the Monarchy but couldn’t further from the truth. During the fight, many units, like the 2nd Lancers Regiment and the 5th Cazadores Regiment, fought bravely against the Republicans on that day.
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 2 месяца назад
I love when these people get corrected or when they miss info and the comment section fills it in
@lluviathewolfgirl
@lluviathewolfgirl 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the info!
@JPsMum
@JPsMum 2 месяца назад
I knew nothing of these Queens before watching your excellent videos. Not just entertaining, but very informative. Thank you so much
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Wow, thank you!
@hollieBlu303
@hollieBlu303 2 месяца назад
This man is a legend! His channel is phenomenally underrated and should be boosted at all cost. His work is brilliant, detailed, true to known history, not over-dramatised and.... takes a moment to get into... but ultimately this is one of the singley, most detailed history channels available on RU-vid.❤ Anyone else who is doing this is sponsored by the BBC, Timeline or something of that ilk. Exceptional x
@rosemaryfranzese317
@rosemaryfranzese317 2 месяца назад
Poor Queen Ena, she was blamed for all of Spain’s problems. Alphonso knew that the British royal family carried haemophilia but he was determined to marry one of Queen Victoria’s granddaughters. Albert Prince Consort had brought striking looks to the family and many of the Queen’s granddaughters were beautiful, Ena was no exception. Interestingly haemophilia rarely effects females which probably accounts for Alphonso and Ena’s daughters not having the same issues. At least if you are going to be exiled, Lausanne is a very nice city to be exiled in!
@cindchan
@cindchan 2 месяца назад
High child mortality rate. "She lost a lot of kids! She's cursed!" Uh.....yeah....😒 Seriously though, to lose so many kids must have been absolutely heartbreaking!
@rosameryrojas-delcerro1059
@rosameryrojas-delcerro1059 2 месяца назад
Some DNA tests would confirm allegations of infidelity on the part of MariaLuisa of Parma, as well as Isabella2.
@charliekezza
@charliekezza 2 месяца назад
I think miscarriages were only higher in royalty because they were more documented. If you go back a few generations and look at the timing of the births in a family, you can see gaps where there was miscarriages but it just wasn't talked about. When I was doing the family tree until I found evidence of dead babies I was not told a thing it was just kept private.
@deborahdean8867
@deborahdean8867 2 месяца назад
I wouldnt assume those were miscarriages. Women wouldn't get pregnant often by breastfeeding, and often because they just left off having sex for a while . That's something you really cant tell about from the timing of births
@rachelann9362
@rachelann9362 2 месяца назад
@@deborahdean8867most of the gaps I see in my tree are closer to 2 years. If it’s closer to three, I start for evidence to see if they were separated, like one going off to war. Given most of my family came over in PA colonies (quakers), Jamestown (plantation families & indentured servants), and Mass Bay, there was a LOT of gaps simply due to conflicts with natives, other colonies, etc. It can be hard to find those records though, particularly in the south of the US. I live in VA now, actually coincidentally moved onto lands my ancestors owned and worked on, east of Richmond. during the civil war, there were a LOT of records that were burned to disguise owning workers (censored to not get my comment deleted) and the trade of such (some were illegal, ie after import was made illegal.) The closer you are to the former Confederate Capital, Richmond, the more likely it is that most records were destroyed. That includes Census records which would help piece together birth records and such more clearly.
@deborahdean8867
@deborahdean8867 2 месяца назад
@@rachelann9362 yes, I'm not fond of Lincoln the industrialist brute. Going to war against your own people is like beating your wife and kids. We had it rough in SC too, but managed to retain most records.
@raquellofstedt9713
@raquellofstedt9713 Месяц назад
In my mother's family, women who mourned miscarriages were mocked. It wasn't seen as anything to mourn. Not exactly healthy, but there you go.
@deborahdean8867
@deborahdean8867 Месяц назад
@@raquellofstedt9713 likely from the days of little birth control, more familiarity with death, and more acceptance of nature's decisions.
@aceofspades8634
@aceofspades8634 2 месяца назад
Does anyone else think Amelie of Orleans doesn’t deserve to be on this list? I mean, I loved FL’s biography on her, but by this account, it seems like she was quite a good Queen (perhaps not brilliant in political reform, but she certainly was not worse than the average queen consort). It was the monarchy (her husband and what the institution itself stood for) that was despised, not she personally. Anyways, I’m sure there were queens, especially from Medieval history, that were far more “hated”.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
I agree she herself wasn't hated and was good, but the monarchy definitely was as was all her spending! Tbh, I didn't just want to put in Spanish queens and didn't want to repeat videos I've used for my insane queens video! There are plenty of other medieval queens I still need to do videos on!!
@aceofspades8634
@aceofspades8634 2 месяца назад
@@ForgottenLives That’s fair. In that case, please, please do make more series on less well-known Queens! I am a little biased towards stories from the Medieval period (which I love so much), but I greatly enjoyed both your videos on the Hated and Insane Queens! Watching your videos always makes my day. :D
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
@@aceofspades8634 for sure! And thank you 😊
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 месяца назад
"Isabella" is actually the Spanish form of the name "Elizabeth" and this may cause some confusion.
@desstanbridge8283
@desstanbridge8283 2 месяца назад
I feel sorry for them .. the forced marriages and eye watering amount of pregnancies. The immense sorrow they must have felt with their children dying so young too.
@jeschada6638
@jeschada6638 2 месяца назад
First comment!!!
@rachelann9362
@rachelann9362 2 месяца назад
53:20 Him: *gets told their children may have hemophilia as it’s in prospective wife’s family* Him: *blames wife for the kids having hemophilia* Uh. Alfonso sir, you walked into that willingly.
@MayaLarsen-y3r
@MayaLarsen-y3r 2 месяца назад
Because these were acts of misogeny with the sexist attitudes at the times. What about hated kings....?
@nyxspiritsong5557
@nyxspiritsong5557 2 месяца назад
Love this video! Always awesome to learn about little known monarchs! I'd love a part 2!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Coming soon!
@hollieBlu303
@hollieBlu303 2 месяца назад
Thank you for such a detailed breakdown of the history. This channel deserves SO much more love. Big up!
@ELKE-
@ELKE- 2 месяца назад
Thank you for awesome video. Your narration makes all difference, it's always very enjoyable listening to you
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Thank you kindly!
@ELKE-
@ELKE- 2 месяца назад
@@ForgottenLives You're welcome, always! 🙏You
@hollieBlu303
@hollieBlu303 2 месяца назад
I have to say, every time I start watching this channel, I feel like I'm not into it...and then I'm BLOWN AWAY by the sheer intrigue and historical detail. Sir, I salute you. You are fantastic ❤❤❤ Please, never, NEVER, stop. Underrated channel x
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@donnalynnmcclary8027
@donnalynnmcclary8027 2 месяца назад
I love all your content! I learn so much, and your voice and style are so pleasant.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
I'm so glad!
@emmacarroll3665
@emmacarroll3665 2 месяца назад
Has anyone ever told you that you look just like a young Eric Roberts?
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
I dont think so, I hope its a compliment 😉
@yvettegagne7308
@yvettegagne7308 2 месяца назад
I thoroughly enjoy your channel, love learning about history, especially when it's told with such a calming intriguing voice. Thank you for all your hard work. ❤ I heard my family's name in one of your stories "Armand Gagne" now I'm trying to find it again so I can stare it with my Father. We know that two (GAGNE) brother's from France came to Canada in 1644. That's how we traced our family.
@gonefishing167
@gonefishing167 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much, most interesting. Some of them did not deserve the kickback. 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
I agree!
@peggyjaeger9280
@peggyjaeger9280 2 месяца назад
I can see why they had so many children but those poor women. All those pregnancies. They were just baby machines. I think a lot of them were maligned unfairly just because they were women. They didn't like women having any power. Interesting presentation . I didn't know about some of them before.
@anthonytroisi6682
@anthonytroisi6682 2 месяца назад
Eleanor of Provence, wife of Henry III, was so hated that Londoners pelted her barge with stones, mud, and rotten eggs,
@peggyjaeger9280
@peggyjaeger9280 2 месяца назад
@@anthonytroisi6682 I always wondered who would keep rotten eggs (and vegetables) around to throw at people. It's so much easier to pick up stones and mud!
@sandeesimons6045
@sandeesimons6045 5 дней назад
King Charles of England still carries it! Thankfully, neither Wills, nor Harry carry the nose, nevermind the jaw!😂
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 2 месяца назад
2 of Queen Victorias granddaughters ruined many monarchies with bad blood .
@ladyjusticesusan
@ladyjusticesusan 2 месяца назад
I did not know anything about these women. Thank you so much for your video. Very enjoyable and informative. You are appreciated.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@MDiStefano10
@MDiStefano10 2 месяца назад
Be still my heart :)
@Wheelchairspeeder
@Wheelchairspeeder 2 месяца назад
Is it just me or did the dad of the last Spanish hapsburg ( charles the mad)..but didn't that guy look alot like Mark Zuckerberg 😂
@MiaTiffany-mt8hg
@MiaTiffany-mt8hg 2 месяца назад
I really enjoy your videos! I watch to unwind and learn! Thank you so much 😊
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Glad you like them!
@itsmonday7450
@itsmonday7450 Месяц назад
Do the descendants of Queen Victoria still suffer from hemophilia?
@amandavoges1526
@amandavoges1526 2 месяца назад
She fell pregnant and gave birth 11 months later? Lol
@Grammy245
@Grammy245 Месяц назад
Very interesting!!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives Месяц назад
Thank you 😊
@Lucy0809
@Lucy0809 2 месяца назад
Cowmilla parkup bowels 🤢🤮😡
@carolmanning8367
@carolmanning8367 Месяц назад
NO IDEA WHY, A MONTH LATER THIS STORY JUST CAME ON MY PHONE. IM A SUSCRIBER FOR QUITE A WHILE. BETTER LATE THAN NEVER.😊
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives Месяц назад
Enjoy!
@ANAMaria-lj8lq
@ANAMaria-lj8lq 2 месяца назад
Someone put Camila in the video
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 2 месяца назад
Funny how Queen Elizabeth 2 was also very close to her Grand daughters Beatrice and Eugenie.
@nasiasteel9105
@nasiasteel9105 2 дня назад
God damn this is insane
@Unfiltered_Hottakes
@Unfiltered_Hottakes 14 дней назад
No Sherry Pie? 😂
@BradleyWilliams-vu4us
@BradleyWilliams-vu4us Месяц назад
Ask camilla
@nataliep501
@nataliep501 2 месяца назад
Your videos helped make my bad day feel better, thank you ❤
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Very glad to hear that, thanks for the support 😊
@bobbyrutherford9359
@bobbyrutherford9359 2 месяца назад
Forgotten Lives uploaded another great video thanks again
@blackwidowspider9852
@blackwidowspider9852 2 месяца назад
I just subscribed and thumbs up to you Your channel and the way Your channel and the way you tell and narrate the story is fantastic it's so exciting thank you
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Welcome aboard! Thanks 👊
@greekre
@greekre 2 месяца назад
isabella was a gunt
@juliapalmer2344
@juliapalmer2344 2 месяца назад
🩷🩷🩷Thank you for another great video.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Thank you too!
@zero_bs_tolerance8646
@zero_bs_tolerance8646 2 месяца назад
Very good. Thank you.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
As always my pleasure!
@bekkakay8573
@bekkakay8573 2 месяца назад
Great video. Thanks
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
Glad you liked it!
@adrianadealmeida1472
@adrianadealmeida1472 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
No problem!
@gingernightmare9152
@gingernightmare9152 2 месяца назад
Firebrand movie is a good watch.
@jchang76
@jchang76 Месяц назад
Sorry, young man, but NO human pregnancy lasts 11 months!!! This is a pretty basic fact. The fact that you don't seem to know that is frightening. The cadence of your reading is incredibly, unbelievably, annoying !!! You really need to listen to this episode, with your eyes closed, and you'll hear that to which I'm referring. This would be incredibly interesting, and a very good video, if it weren't for that.
@elagabalusrex390
@elagabalusrex390 2 месяца назад
Ask Hillary Clinton lol
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 2 месяца назад
She was a queen? 😉
@elagabalusrex390
@elagabalusrex390 2 месяца назад
@@ForgottenLives What is a queen (consort) but a First Lady in ermine robes and a tiara? lol
@emilien.
@emilien. 2 месяца назад
If MM ascended to the throne, she would top the list or at least figure somewhere near the top. I sincerely pray that never happens.
@lilymarinovic1644
@lilymarinovic1644 2 месяца назад
That would require Charles, William and all three of.his children to predecease Harry, and all before having any children of their own. Quite the unlikely series of events.
@emilien.
@emilien. 2 месяца назад
@@lilymarinovic1644 Yes, and aren't we so veddy, veddy glad for those odds!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@susieschlotzhauer9924
@susieschlotzhauer9924 2 месяца назад
Ohhh a long episode, you spoil us ❤
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