Probably China where money is no object, unless they get into a war over Taiwan. The technology they lack they can steal, have you noticed that every Western research project has multiple Chinese scientists involved. Then probably Space X who aren't afraid of taking risks. Then a tie between Nasa and Russia, Nasa projects take 10 times longer and cost 10 times more and they are risk adverse, Russia has the will but lacks the financial resources unless the sanctions are lifted.
The idea of building a solar panel ring around moon's equator has a small logical problem. If you look at the numbers its a no brainer. a) If you can cover the moon with solar panels. Why can't you put in on earth instead, if the purpose is to supply earth with energy. b) When you convert solar energy (photons) into electricity (electron) via solar panels. the efficiency is at best 25%. c) Then you convert the electricity (electrons) into laser (photon) at a conversion efficiency of between 50%-85%. So you are left with 12.5% or 21.25% of the original solar energy. d) then on earth you again convert the laser (photons) into electricity (electrons) at maybe 30% efficiency with the best photovoltaic cell humans could produce. So you are looking at 3.75% (practical figure) to 6.375% (best case scenario) of the original energy. So the sensible thing to do is just put the solar panels on earth and you get 25% of the solar energy as useful electricity. Think about solar panels in space as a resistance to the free flow of photons from the sun and not as a giant collector of solar panels. Putting solar panels in space only makes sense if our energy needs are greater than 30% of the energy the sun gives us and we have already tapped into all of it. Then to collect more energy you have no option but venture into space.
a gsa (global space agency )would be good save alot of money by not keep repeating projects on a national level instead spend on new projects develop ing new space technology quicker
I am a 50 year old man who was a baby at the time of the moon landings and am Mega excited about returning to the moon I just cant wait to see it on the Tv I will be GLUED. I only wish i could live another 100 years to see a Moon and Mars base.
Ahh "H-3," staple point of Gundam lore, where compact Minovsky reactors use it to generate a form of fusion that has the side effect of dispersing Minovsky radiation. That radiation scatters radio wave based communication systems... forcing people to fight ... in Giant Humanoid Robots(mech) called "mobile suits." This Minovsky radiation might have played a catalytic role in the emergence of humans with enhanced situational awareness that is geared toward optimizing orientation(in space but also intrapersonal and interpersonal orientation, allowing for functional but totally virtual~false boost in I.Q). These people sense multiple layers of subtext and context that are generally outside the attention~awareness of those who aren't the top of their respective fields of study or skill. This makes them borderline superhumans that have adept adaptability and a greater than normal range of potential for mental development + corresponding kinesthetic capability~proficiency. A small percentage of these "Newtype" characters do develop their faculties into the realm of "ESPER" like ability to read the nature of people and things. This ability triggers harmonic resonance that amplifies the flow of cognition and communication between two or more characters that touch on the threshold of Newtype awakening. This is their entering a state of "transcending themsleves," similar to bypassing our hands to imprive the "data link rate" of our minds and the A.I in our phones, as Elon Musk puts it. Not every one of these enhanced Humans can reach "esper" levels of "intuition," perception and cognition but nearly all of them can reach Ace level proficiency in whatever they practice, all within a few short months after they are initially exposed. The Newtype wasn't meant to be undermined as a mere magical being to be scoffed at as it has been by many "fans" of Gundam but an avenue of hope. Hope that people can mature past the *binding GRAVITY of insecurity* so we might then see the inner light of possibility, the light that resides in every heart as we all hope to grasp an ever improved quality of life for every interrelated being that is part of that life(biosphere).
I really love the idea of a Luna Telescope, especially since it would be constructed on the dark side of the Moon. We would be able to see so much more of the universe without all the light polution and other environmental obstructions.
The dark side is not dark when sun ☀️ shine on it, it is called the FAR side for this reason. The idea of a telescope 🔭 there is good goal, not having the earth in sight is perfect for radio astronomy and optics too.
Oh yeah magnetic particle acceleration and taking the particle accelerator and scenting antimatter eons are electrons through microwave bursts or a stream of energy off of a particle magnet magnet on the end of a pipe or a 12 inch speaker magnet and putting the nether pipe contain it and then another magneton that and directing the energy beam to another said magnetic substrate on the magnetic particle accelerator sending electrons wirelessly through the air just as in Nikola Tesla Nikola Tesla Tesla coils structures on the main productions and wireless energy sending devices
The electro ion drive in the ion energy thermal axial flux energy thermostatic induction flying up and the Galaxy or in a Boeing 747 and using an aeon Flux electrothreads generator and an electric microwave jet engine to go out into space with the electro-conductive 747 and the biocontainment already there on the 747 for high-altitude
Here's a crazy thought NASA's Galaxy remember the giant Galaxy aircraft that the giant one that we transport all the NASA equipment for and now you know if it fits little Huey helicopters and shit like that inside of it and giant NASA Galaxy play nevermind I'm just playing up on the thought about an electro axial flux magnetic engine and the Galaxy aircraft and the 747 flying into space NASA
Those aliens at the end 😂 I can't believe you only have 24k subscribers! Your content is top notch 👌🏼 Thank you for all of your efforts to give us such quality content!
at 9:33 you imply that Hydrogen is frozen in those cold traps at 60°K. Hydrogen melts at 14°K, and goes to gas at 21°K, so even in a cold trap, it would be a gas.
Once a lunar base is established, besides in-situ resource utilization, the Moon can be used of source of construction materials. Space liners, orbiting hotels and other facilities can be constructed from lunar derived metals. It is clearly very expensive to haul from Earth to orbit construction materials. Things as simple as steel plate can be manufactured on the Moon, shot into orbit and used for the base materials of large ships and structures. Eventually metal (M-type) asteroids can be maneuvered into an Earth or lunar orbit for similar purposes.
All this stuff sounds neat, but what is the economic incentive to do it? I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about resources. Would you REALLY want to live on the moon, or on a space station? Imagine, never being able to go outside, no mountains, no hiking, you are in a structure, for years, maybe a lifetime. Unless there's a resource to be obtained, it's unlikely we're going to be establishing any colony somewhere any time soon.
@@Riteaidbob Well, ironically, orbiting hotels have been proposed for the commercialization of space. Some realistic, some that couldn't be done in this century.
On minute 5:00 you claim that "SpaceX's plan is to tip the starship and cover it with regolith". You're actually talking about a project that I conceived and worked on with a group of talented friends. While I'll be overjoyed if SpaceX makes it their plan, currently its not. But if Channels like yours keep promoting our project maybe it would become a reality.
With the advent of reusable launch vehicles, the game has changed in a big way. Falcon 9 is already about 20% the cost per ton to orbit of its closest competitor... And Starship will be even cheaper per launch than Falcon 9, with nearly 5x the payload. A whole order of magnitude cheaper! I hope other launch providers start competing too
I have been watching US Military moon base videos all evening, and yours was giving me data points unlike any other videos before. Excellent job and presentation!
@@poppz3395 I wouldn't imagine it would be too hard to supply the structure with any ingredients necessary to maintain plant life. I also just watched a video today where he mentioned that he wants to use glass domes for plant life.
@@jessepollard7132 and people exhale carbon dioxide thanks to the food we eat, so it's an egg and the chicken kinda thing. If u want to have crops or any sort of life u need some sort of carbon source, and maybe u could get that from those cold traps on the moon, or from some other sort of geological structure there
Building actual crops maybe too hard for now, so I think sending food and such would be the best option for a while. Altho maybe u could engineer crops to use up less resources that are rare on the moon, and then it could get easier to get crops. But for sure food production is a very important step to having a long term moon station
Bloke, you need to post during live NASA streams or something. I've only just stumbled on this channel, and I follow about a dozen others and had never heard of The Space Race. Subscribed.
Many good ideas in the video. As for a far future human DNA bank underground on the Moon, why not build a far future city underground on the Moon? Underground protects from radiation. Power the city with the solar panels mentioned in the video. Structures can be built underground to grow crops and for living habitats. Sleeping quarters could be put in underground centrifuges to create artificial gravity and so on. Lots of potential on the Moon.
@@gordtulloch Agre to Your comment about automation, but a scientific research station and maybe later transformed to a tourist place could be build. SpaceX could have some use for their coming StarShips.
@@Riteaidbob How about it being astronomically wonderful to be able to go to another planet/moon?? Be in zero G, rocket launch, space walk, moon landing, low gravity, look at the Earth from another object in Space etc etc etc. But no Steve... there is only "tunnels"
A moon base would only make sense if its a stepping stone for further travels. Sure there could be a station for some research etc and tourism could be something too. But mostly at this point in time it would make sense to use the moon as a low gravity stepping stone. Fuel production and storage etc.
LOL.......gateway space station is a 110% grift and has no possible way of EVER being built in your lifetime. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yVd-PCo6NbU.html DEBUNKING GATEWAY FOUNDATION Pt1 (1080p)
Return to the Moon is a must and look at all the time we have wasted by procrastinating over the last 60 years. There is a whole universe out there just waiting for us!
Moon observatories are a good idea. The simplest would be a radio telescope and/or spun pool of mercury, forming a large parabolic mirror. But there will be clutter in the moons orbit, too, if we are there. Rare earth metals have been identified. He3 also could be mined there from the regolith. The first Lunar Starship can bring 100 tons of machinery to the moon, which is a shopping list I'd like to see. A Tesla Cybertruck with a plow Could be 3 tons of it.
Well that won’t happen until some of the alien races have decided that we’re worth making contact with. Then I’m sure most earth country leaders will think of them as an enemy that we all have in common. We would of course think of them as a threat, as we currently do with each other. 🤨
@@kirra7406 if terrestrial find us, them gonna colonized first we don't know their occupation to can be large community like country, race unity or tribalisme or more worst small community like pirate, family or company
Update (Ref 8:40): Recent studies released by NIST state there ARE in fact rare elements worthy of investing in mining operations. On Sep 8th 2022, China announced successfully harvesting Helium-3. This was big news, not only for the fusion design community, but also because it had been theorized for decades that the lunar surface - without atmosphere - makes it a perfect breeding ground for elements like Helium-3 difficult to locate or synthesis on earth. Thus, justifying lunar mining investment long term. Still, great video!
It may take a number of years figuring out but a space elivator could help in the construction on are nearest celestial satellite. Also, Digging underground could provide us with endless room for expansion with 3-D printing in mind. For right now, like said, the starship is are best option with out spending billions more for the first base on the moon. China and Russia can do what ever they want in space but it would be better if we earthlings were all work together for all mankind.
So True & less Carbon foot print 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 while Starship is the best rocket(s) able to carry the most people & cargo it still requires more fuel than a electric elevator system would.
@@TidusCloudRulez Carbon footprint? Take a minute to think about this silly and misleading term. The media has convinced many that releasing Carbon into the atmosphere will lead to an abnormal condition of increased carbon and higher global temperatures. The reality is that CURRENT conditions are abnormal, and our attempts to combat "global warming" are actually an attempt to delay the inevitable transition of our planet to its normal condition. The fossil record shows that for most of the existence of this world, conditions were much warmer, with higher humidity and higher CO2 levels. There have been multiple periods of colder temperatures (ice ages), generally coupled with extinction-level events. Science tells us that fossil fuels are the result of millions of years of heat and pressure acting upon the remains of plants and animals killed during these events. The elephant in the living room here is that nobody wants to discuss exactly where the carbon in fossil fuels came from. We say "ancient plants and animals" and leave it at that. OK. Assume that ancient animals ultimately got their carbon from either plants or from eating animals that ate plants. No prob...that is where MY carbon content came from. Now, where did the ancient plants get THEIR carbon from? We know the answer to this one..we learned it in grade school. Plants take Carbon Dioxide from the atmosphere, and release oxygen. From. The. Atmosphere. So, if a plant takes CO2 from the atmosphere, dies, turns to oil, then I burn that oil releasing the carbon to the atmosphere, all I have really done is put it back where it came from in the first place. If I throw a log into the fireplace and light it, part of the carbon in that log will be released to the atmosphere...right where the tree took it from while it was alive. The only difference is that one was living 50 years ago, the other 50 million years ago. There exist many good and valid reasons to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels, including that fact that they are a finite resource better used for purposes other than energy production. "Carbon footprint" and "Climate Change" are simply terms used to justify taking your money away from you while the inevitable happens with or without any action from humans. All we can do is (perhaps) slow the process.
8:56 No, it wouldn't be. Rare Earths are really common on Earth, plus the moon has lots of Helium-3, which is really useful, and moon mining doesn't disturb the Earth, which we kind of need to keep undisturbed. We can carry out large-scale mining operations without harming environments
We can send sequestered CO2 to the moon as fuel and fertilizer. It can help build the infrastructure to remove CO2 from our atmosphere while supporting a sustainable food and energy system for earth and offworld settlements.
@@Heliocentric you can create biochar from nearly any biomass feedstock. Then you can charge the biochar with rich organic microbial compost, all of which is carbon based. Living soil with a high carbon content will be valuable off world. Graphite, methane, and other carbon based products would be valuable too. Ammonia has immense potential too. The Haber Bosch process uses hydrogen generated from methane currently. We can transition the whole world to a sustainable economy using solar and batteries to produce ammonia with electrolysis. Send as much CO2 offworld and to permanent building materials as possible. Re wild as much of earth as possible by using advanced indoor and marine agriculture as well as regenerative permaculture and agroforestry methods inland.
@@jessepollard7132 The cost of getting to orbit continues to fall. As space exploration takes root in the coming years, i think sending high quality carbon rich topsoil would be very valuable.
Better smarten yourself up first. Early explorers will have skills needed, maybe PhD's (especially geology, physics, astronomy) or M.D.'s (in case your appendix bursts on the moon), or mining experience (that would be an easy route)! Good luck!
The thought of mining ⛏ the moon sounds like an awesome idea 💡 & it might be risky or might not. Who knows. Why? Ok. Listen carefully. Iffy we mine the moon for many reasons for our needs, then the moon WILL GET smaller & smaller. Someday in a thousands years from now, the moon we all see in the sky will be like a small rock 🪨 that you can carry it in your hands. Shouldn’t we be concerned 😟 about that? This mining ⛏ on the moon has bothered me for a long time. Perhaps mining on any asteroids will be safer. Feel free to debate.
They still have corporate HQ on earth in the USA or their various country/ies the regulator officials on earth are able to penalize said company. I mean you Can't live on the moon forever Yet.
If trillions of $$$ is gonna be spent to go and live there; you can bet your last$$$ that whoever spends that dough, will eventually claim ownership of the area that were chosen for the construction of those facilities. It is just another Real Estate potential grab. There will have to be laws developed here on Earth ; to insure that whoever has the capabilities of making the first settlement on the moon ,can at least have the right to defend its location from rogue nations that have the capability to go there too.
Came to think of it...im a noob but...if we mine on the Moon and we reduce its mass, what exactly does it mean in long terms? I mean, yea there r not enough worthy things to really reduce mass of it. But what if o.O
yes you can beam power back down, but it is not very efficient the solar panels themselves are not very efficient either. plus it may also ruin the natural beauty of the moon. it would also still take lots of time, resources, money, etc to construct. by the time it is build we probably would of solved things like nuclear fusion.
@@goldenbananas1389 yeah, it kinda looks like early concepts for human flight, with guys on bikes flapping wings like crazy or the poor guy who jumped of the Eiffel tower with his "wings", ending with a predicable result!! :(
Adding mass to the moon must be compensated by removing other mass, otherwise, the delivate moon orbit might be offset by the added mass used in building projects.
An interesting fact about being on the moon, is that the Earth appears stationary in the lunar Sky relative to your position on the lunar surface. This is because the Moon is phase locked with the Earth, this means the same side is always facing us. The phases of the moon are the day and night cycle, which lasts about 30 days.
That was great! For power they should bring teleoperated reactors and just stick them into a pit 1000m away. Mining, processing, refining and production of everything useful in an assembly line factory, including water, oxygen, etc., into the tanks. The mining, strip mining since there is no environment, can be in the form of pits and trenches, that are later turned into habs and tunnels (with full wall LEDs showing the outside surface). Food is TV dinners and water they have. I think a continual presence of 11 crew rotated every six months, plus facilities for double, would be sufficient to prove the concept. Once everyone knows the cost and risk, people/orgs can build their own copies.
teleoperator commands would take too long to execute on the moon... anything you send to the moon would need to be automated and self sufficient. Six months on the moon would likely make many humans sterile afterwards and they would start losing noticable muscle mass .by the third month. so that coming back to Earth could end up being a death sentence
@The Richest Man In Babylon "Meanwhile kids die every day of Beri Beri et al..... in the tropics". That, my friend, is a POLITICAL issue, NOT a SCIENCE issue. In many small (and some large) countries around the world, a healthy and educated populace is the government's worst nightmare. When a person is isolated and uneducated, they will not realize that better conditions exist elsewhere. When a person's existence revolves around a daily struggle to get enough to eat to repeat the process the next day, they will generally not be able to consider actually changing their circumstances. Most of the starving and disease-ridden people living in "third-world" countries have "leaders" who get fat on imported food, receive the best of modern health care, ride around in limos, and have a private jet sitting on the tarmac if they want to be elsewhere. North Korea comes to mind.
Using a mixture of gallium’ aluminum’ and water, all can be found and liberated from the surface of the moon, to make hydrogen using the Grotthuss mechanism with very little power output. Also, after the reaction of the aluminum two the gallium and water the gallium is available for reuse.
Solar ring sounds good with nuclear and also, a dome village to support a colony of 1000 people to start. A large orbiting outpost to hold at least 100 people would be good too. Setting up green houses on the surface to grow plants and good would be good also!
If you have the industrial capacity to build something as preposterous as a ring of solar panels around the moon, and the astronomical budget to afford that project - then you have the capacity to build a hundred times as many on Earth instead, complete with battery plants. Loved the video, but that was a very, very nonsensical point..
I think this video is good but how about this approach. Send robots to build, and make a factory's there to recycle water, garden domes. Then send robots to Titan to see what kind of resources to use to live their without space suites. I sure at one point the atmosphere is breathable. Make it a mining colony and make large spaceships, recycle water, farms, animals, fish farming. We would have to bring a lot of these things with us to start. Maybe we could build Stucco homes?
Beaming energy using lasers actually sounds like a terrible idea for many reasons. The first one is the sheer amount of inefficiencies introduced in the system. The second one is that you need to realize what beaming Terawatts of energy with lasers actually looks like. It looks exactly like the name implies, gigantic lasers operating at terawatts of power, it's negligently dangerous and that's IF things go the way you want them to go to receive enough power on the other end. Focusing this much energy on a small area would be massively challenging if feasible and incredibly dangerous if achievable.
However; "inefficiency" already means "of or relating to being inefficient" = "inefficiencies" is an inefficient~redundant double conjugation. A faulty conjugation formed by those who breathe through their mouth, they overuse the suffix "s" as means to facilitate this vile~destructive misuse of the mouth.
@@linyenchin6773 You are actually wrong, inefficiencies is just a comon conjugation of the noun ''inefficiency'', as in multiple instances of inefficiency, which is exactly what I meant when I said it. Is there any point to your bullshit or do you simply want to be unnecessarily and erroneously pedantic without engaging with the argument?
Fair and righterous efforts toward space explorations would be the direction of the U.N. space justice council, with faith. Appreciate all sincere considerations with trust.
I wonder is musk thinking of putting a future version of the Star-link satellite 🛰 in lunar orbit especially on the dark side of the moon? Mars as well
Good video - but you forgot Helium at the moon for fusion energy at earth. The idea to lay a rocket down and cover it with Regolith was good, and robots to work is good too. IF we do it, we can in the year 2100 (or 2200) know how to make bases at planets and we will know the price. Maybe we could use this knowledge on Mars, but more proberly we find out, that it will be too expensive and at that time robots will be so advanced, that we dont need humans at Mars.
It has always been our destiny (from the first time beings lifted their eyes to gaze into the heavens) to travel into space. With all the fits and starts of the space program it looks as we may have a chance! Doesn’t it make more sense to focus our energies off earth than to do the alternative … finding better ways to kill each other and destroy all we have struggled to create!
@The Richest Man In Babylon We could always stop making weapons systems to kill each other and use .1% of the money we save to make our species multi-planetary?
@The Richest Man In Babylon the us military spent 2 trillion making craters in the mode East for 2 decades and NASA has only been allocated 20 billion a year
@@RestrictedHades Yeah, interestingly, I heard, at the time, that the whole Apollo project was funded for a total of 20 billion, back in the sixties. Many a Senator howled, on TV, at that then, calling it a "boon doggel" and better spent on "the poor people of Earth". Now, since then, we've spent trillions on the poor and nothing has changed for their "improvement", since we first landed on the moon in 1969. In fact there are more "homeless" now (we just called them hobos or bums then). But, because of space spending then, we now have mini computers (aka your phone) and Corning Ware to cook in; just to name a few "spin offs" from Apollo!! Interesting perspective on gov't spending huh?
Pretty confident they will be NASA astronauts exclusively for quite a while. NASA have the training programs that actually develop astronauts. Though we might see NASA astronauts wearing SpaceX suits at some point!
Right, there will be many combinations, with special training before they go, by whomever is the lead on vehicles used. Even Apollo had non-military astronauts as well as mostly military (active and retired) and a PhD in Geology (Harrison Schmitt) on Apollo 17. Key is they will be very smart folks; no "goombahs", who just think it would be neat to go, need apply!! So, kiddies, stop texting, gaming, and generally goofing off, and learn something useful for a career in space!! :D
moon wars are inevitable , were humans for gods sake ..its all we do , mate spawn fight and die ..yarrrrr there's a reason military spending is at an all time high .
@@Mark-eb2jc sadly or gladly, take your pick, we humans are predators, not sheep, that's why we are fearless to do things like explore an unbelievable hostile environment like space. No soy boys will go, but alpha males will and some really hot "manly chicks" too!! Some very wild humping in low gravity to come boys!! :D LOL
I think that the first two things we need to build are a lunar space station and a lunar cycler. The lunar cycler would be on a fixed orbit around earth and the moon, so a lunar mission only needs to escape earth’s gravity and the moon’s. After leaving earth’s atmosphere, the spacecraft docks with the cycler and ride it to the moon. Once at the moon, it undocks from the cycler and enters lunar orbit. At this point, it docks with the lunar space station. This would allow for extended stays on/around the moon. After a certain length of time they undock from the space station and catch the cycler back to earth. The transportation between the lunar station and the surface would require very little fuel; which can be produced in situ on the moon. So all we really need is enough fuel to escape earth. That allows for larger payloads to ship stuff to the moon. We could then use the moon as a testing ground for the technology we would need for things like Mars colonization.
Sounds good, like NASA's lunar orbit strategy of the late 1960's: Blast from Earth to orbit, blast out of obit to the moon, achieve lunar orbit, descend from lunar orbit to the moon, ascend from the moon back to lunar orbit, blast from the moon back to Earth, splash down in Earth's oceans. Was easy peasy, for all 6 American moon landings in 1969-1972!! Even Apollo 13 did it, w/o the landing of course! :D LOL
I have my doubts that the lights coming from any moon city would out shine the reflected sunlight. And the lights from cities on the dark side would simply be out of sight .
@@marstheplanet477 whenever I look at a new moon light sliver..it's always really close to the horizon .I believe this observable phenomenon would be applicable to every observer. ...no matter where they observe it from. And whenever you see a big part of the Moon during daylight it would be too bright to observe any light coming from it. I believe the only time you could see a City Light from the Moon would be during a full moon eclipse in my opinion
Astronauts would have health problems at one quarter earth's gravity. Fifteen days of blistering sunshine, and fifteen days of deep freezing cold could be difficult too.
Imagine being one of the first people to go to the moon in 5 decades, only to do manual labor on your trip. Like these are scientists with PHDs, and we're giving them a shovel and a spacesuit
@@Riteaidbob Yup, even Fred and Wilma Flintstone lived above ground! And our prehistoric ancestors went on "walk abouts" from time to time to kill a mastodon, or something, to eat!! Seriously, "baby steps" may require some "primitive" shelters at first, on the moon or Mars. Then we'll have, much later, more "acceptable dwellings to reside in! :D