How Writers Can Create A Powerful Dilemma To Make Their Stories Better - Jeff Kitchen

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@MrSilvUr 3 года назад

Predictability isn't always a problem. If he ditches Skylar and ends up working his miserable job, that's a viable -- kinda tragic -- ending. If ends up working with Skylar's people and gets burned from his career and left out in the cold, that's also valid. There's nothing wrong with a story that shows you a character who is set up to be destroyed between two ends of a dilemma and then _is_.

@Ilamarea 2 года назад

Exactly. FBI accosts him, they show evidence and make him cooperate, forcing a decision. But then his love is too strong and he breaks the law and sacrifices himself to warn Skylar, but she tells him that she's going to be fine, that she's got protection, that he's a great guy and he should go and live his life with someone that would truly love him, and then maybe he notices a woman that's been present in his life but he never appreciated her or something.

@Ryan-lp3qw 2 года назад

I agree, predictability isn't a problem, and I believe the execution is what matters more. 1984 is an iconic example that is very similar to the narrative pitched here, although the internal dilemma was between security and ethics. It ends in one of the two predictable endings. I think what caught everyone off guard was HOW it was delivered, and it was the details of the delivery that made it so horrifically memorable.

@rodschmidt8952 2 года назад

What if he works with Skylar's people and gets away with it? What if he makes all bad acts look like the company's fault?

@andrewryan2814 Год назад

Everyone sees endings as having to be happy or tragic, but a resolution can linger and be as morally gray as the story dilemma.

@LuriTV Год назад

@@andrewryan2814 that's also a good opportunity to take the readers own morality into account whether the outcome was a good or bad one and whether Dereks decisions were justified.

@psotos 2 года назад

This guy is amazing! My whole direction in writing has been changed by watching this video. What an epiphany!

@TroySpace 2 года назад

Same here!

@Skeletor611 9 месяцев назад

Donate money bro be grateful

@terryfriend16 Год назад

This is great. I loved how you gave the outline so the guest could work it out live. This made for a great teaching lesson. Thanks so much. Learned quite a bit.

@Darien_England Год назад

I have a rule when I write. "It's never just one problem." It is very simple, but j find it always, always elevates the visceral reaction of people listening to my stories once they realize that. The second problem is what makes two simple problems a completely unique one

@DAMON409 Год назад

You need one problem, one character.

@erikbakonyi9186 Год назад

Thanks for the tip this is very intersting

@afrosymphony8207 10 месяцев назад

@@DAMON409 absolutely not...u need interesting emotional and physical problems arranged in a heirachy.

@jck9590 Год назад

Watching this man develop an otherwise milquetoast character into something worth following is worth the time invested in this video. Brilliant!

@AnaFolkenstal 3 года назад

Wow, I need this guy sitting next to me and help me with my script. He's so good o_O

@admworldent 4 месяца назад

He makes it make sense which is always appreciated. In essence he gave her a true representation of her story even without knowing much about her story.

@DenkyManner 3 года назад

All of this makes sense to me, which is reassuring for my own process. Just need to be reminded you're on the right track sometimes.

@zcotty358 3 года назад

Dang! He really ran with that! And I love the "Is that helpful?" at the end there. XD

@CraigHinrichs 3 года назад

One of the reasons Derek got into IT was because he had been burned by relationships in the past. In IT you have stakeholders and computers and Derek knows how to handle them. Also being in computer security he is really keen on sniffing out social engineering attacks. He works with the people in his company on a very professional level and doesn't get intimate about anything. Until he meets Skylar. Even though he has a keen nose for fraud he is bewitched by Skylar because he has fallen for her. He opened him self up when he knew better not to do that. This would make for a great dark night of the soul.

@filmcourage 3 года назад

Love it. I hadn't totally envisioned Derrick's backstory (or Skylar's), just a bit about their upbringings. Great addition to figuring out why he would be in this situation. Thank you for watching.

@passage2enBleu 3 года назад

Besides her looks, he is attracted to her because of her high intelligence that he quickly discovers on their first 'chance' meeting. He realizes that they speak the same 'language', so there's also an irresistible intellectual attraction. In one night while throwing ideas around, they develop a conceptual framework for a new algorithm that will revolutionize...(fill in the blanks). They would make a good team, but in that there emerges the conflict of loyalties... Great interview that ties in beautifully with the Alan Watt (90 day) process.

@rodschmidt8952 2 года назад

Con artists use emotional manipulation, they stir up your emotions rather than let you make rational decisions. For example, every phone call begins with shouting your name.

@level_ken5231 Год назад

In the end, he skirts between the two wolves (worlds lol) by giving Skyler what he wants while maintaining his career integrity. Despite that, Derek and Skyler go their separate ways, see each other in passing, and then become rivals in their individual unique positions. Enter soft cliffhanger for sequel.

@level_ken5231 Год назад

I know I’m 2 years late but I caught this interview today on a story crafting binge and I found your idea fascinating. I hope you’re still working on it!

@ComicPower 3 года назад

If this movie got made I want Miles Teller as Derrick and Margot Robbie as the seductive Skylar

@filmcourage 3 года назад

Perfect! Thank you for watching.

@MdJuwel-zo2rc 3 года назад

You spoke my mind!

@jeffkitchen1549 3 года назад

Great casting. Margot Robbie is the perfect piece of cheese in the mousetrap. There's a great line from a detective novel I read somewhere, "He knew she was a trap, but the cheese in the mousetrap was just too awesome to walk away from."

@megaultradamn 2 года назад

@@jeffkitchen1549 cheese too awesome to walkaway from? Idk "awesome" seems to generic a description for me

@davidursin2150 Год назад

Perfect! Thank you! Your discussion of the protag's "internal dilemma" helped me sharpen my story's outer and inner conflicts that, up to this point, were muddled and running into one another.

@BudsCartoon Год назад

This is how you should write. Just sit and get into it, get high, whatever, and just let your mind wonder. The physical part of typing is manual labor, THIS is the creative process.

@frankiefrank4853 2 года назад

These videos are pleasing to watch and the audio feels raw and real.. like your sitting there with them.

@klauslorentz4113 Год назад

Interesting story, Jeff Kitchen is brilliant. Out of the blue expanding the importance of dilemmas as part of a story in such a short time, clear thinking, but also in principle describing the issues of human nature in a very touching way. Simply brilliant. it could be an amazing job to describe and develop the magic involved in Skylar's atraction without clichés in outrageous ways and make the reader so interested to help creating ideas for the third option with his own imagination. And surprise him!

@silverscreencc 2 года назад

I luv that Jeff said it’s like he gets out of jail. That’s a great description. This talk is so helpful.

@stuffa01 2 года назад

Perhaps over the course of the movie theres a change in his personal character and he decides to do the rite thing. He leaves his corrupt company/career and also leaves the woman he loves because he realizes that she was just trying to use him. basically loses everything and moves far away. The girl is so surprised and enamored by his decision and finds out that she has actually fallen for him. in the last scene we see the guy working his simple shaved ice bar in a tropical location. someone places the help wanted sign on the counter...he looks up to see the girl he loves...Romantic comedy ending...

@StanleyNunn 9 месяцев назад

This was very helpful. Thank you. Mr. Kitchen is brilliant.

@x1101126 3 года назад

Wow, this guy is amazing!

@Phoenix5365 2 года назад

Derek wants to play along with Schuyler because he's interested in learning how much complexity she has to offer; he enjoys the potential challenge. As they become more entangled, he finds she's actually the pawn of a bigger player, perhaps a mastermind of corporate espionage.

@capuchinosofia4771 3 года назад

(around 27:10) I I will need to rewatch this bit again, because I don't quite get the bit about everything going wrong/everything going right but that being the worst possible outcome. Nevertheless, I really liked this talk. I feel like it helped me a lot. I specially enjoyed that his teachings came from a general story idea, instead of just telling us the techniques without applying them to a story. Thank you so much!

@filmcourage 3 года назад

Great to see you finding value with this segment! We like this one a lot and think of it like a mini-class.

@Ruylopez778 3 года назад

He's saying that the crisis point is where the main character has to make a decision and/or take action based on the pressure they are under that has been building. It could be that everything was getting worse and worse leading to that crisis point. It could also be that everything was going to plan, but a sudden reveal/turn/twist means failure (worst possible thing happens at the worst possible moment even if on the brink of success). Either way, the end of act 2 usually ends in failure, to some degree (assuming it is a story with a "happy" ending, and not a tragedy) otherwise the story would be resolved at the three quarter stage. I think Pixar movies are good examples of movies with dilemmas that are perfectly paced (if perhaps a little conventional)

@robhardingpoetry 3 года назад

@@Ruylopez778 it’s also the case that the crisis point comes when the character achieves their action goal and should feel victorious, only to discover it wasn’t the true action goal or that it didn’t fulfill their emotional need and so they turn into the third act to attain that true victory

@stefanfeist9893 Год назад

This was awesome and I instantly had an idea to change the objective of my protagonist. Thanks!

@MadScientist222 2 года назад

Immediately bought his book after watching it

@mikegrecamusic5917 2 года назад

Very cool interpretation. I wonder if Derriks resolution of his dilemma can become a love dance with Skylar, making it more of a romantic nerd comedy :)

@galateojlatteo 11 месяцев назад

Make her truly fall in love to him as well and then that's how you make the conflict more realistic and stronger and in the climax both of the companies are going after them and then make them run away together. In the resolution something happened between the two companies and now they're free. The final picture is they both have different jobs now and have made a family of their own.

@quantumindicesfuturestrade6873 27 дней назад

Cool my script is following what hd is suggesting in this presentation. My hero has several dilemmas surrounding him. All seemngly impossible. Fun

@PoetryInHats 2 года назад

The guard-dog personality he describes reminds me of the "fixer" character in Hail Ceasar. (What a great film!)

@anthonysabatino4317 3 года назад

I think the best way to inflate the adventure part of the dilemma, is that Derrick lost his wife, and has been avoiding moving on. Skylar broke him out of that rut, so he becomes loyal to her even though she is playing him. If his weakness is arrogance, then he might try to outmaneuver Skyler, then this will let him betray his loyalty to his company, while thinking he is engaging espionage for the betterment of both Skyler and the company.

@robynmarler1951 Год назад

Reminds me of one of the greatest short stories ever, New Rose Hotel😭😭😭

@ronaldcaceres3273 2 года назад

What was the movie call, Fern? I'm trying to look for it but this guy bring so much value in stories and characters I don't think people are going for nowadays, awesome insight

@deanniematheson1062 2 года назад

Is it more believable for the audience if Derek is revealed half way through to have know from the outset that Skylar is working for others? So he knew he was going to be betrayed but is faced with the choice once he understands her better? Parallels The Thomas Crowne Affair and Point Break. How does the audience feel about a character if they forgive someone who betrays them? Thanks for a very enjoyable listen!

@Write-better-fiction Год назад

This isn’t a story. It’s just a situation. What’s the premise, what’s the point of the narrative? A story must illustrate a premise. Otherwise all you have is one thing happening after another after another after another.

@iOnRX9 2 года назад

this man is a wizard!

@mesolithicman164 7 месяцев назад

Derek has to value his dream job, so that when confronted by an alternative that he never expected, and one that is potentially dangerous, he really has a major dilemma. Does she really love him or is she just playing him? Does he risk his career and jail for her? Maybe the only way he finds out is when she reveals all to him and tells him that it was all a plan and that she can't go through with it. What about if it turns out that the company that is paying her is funding her mother's essential heart transplant and that if she fails the mission her mother could die. Perhaps Derek uses his computer skills to undermine her bosses and figures out a trick to syphon a lot of money out of her bosses 'black ops' account, enought to fund her mother's operation. The two stay together and Derek is promoted for his loyalty to the company.

@LeoMumford Месяц назад

I'm at 1:27 and i don't care about the story but I think it's simply because there's been no expression of loss for and the dreams of the main character. Without subjective suffering and with only objective goals stories become boring

@jerr7345 2 года назад

this is so cool to watch

@filmcourage 2 года назад

More to come...

@LouCadle 2 года назад

This is beggging for some big twists/reversals. First, the "company" is the NSA and the rival company is the FSB (for highest stakes, something lesser for not-highest stakes, but I'd still make it super-high, like a pharm company Derrick words for has the cheap cure of HIV). Derrick turns it on them, uses her knowledge to get into their system. These are very smart people, and they keep jumping two steps ahead of the other, so the audience is always surprised at the cat and mouse game. One reversal is she's actually working for the Chinese, not the Russians, and she's trying to screw everyone up, not just Derrick's side. But all along, Derrick has some secret too. And of course Skylar has to do this because back in China, her child is being held and is at risk. Otherwise, no way would she. I'd think a lot about Skylar and her motivations and "what if this is her movie" to inform how I'd develop Derrick's story. If it's the pharma company instead, a big plot reversal would be, Derrick discovers that his employers have this, but they aren't going to bring it out and do it cheaply so that Africans can be treated; that they're all about profit. And Skylar is African-American, not many generations removed from Africa, with a brother who is a doctor there.... (But I'm a novelist, and probably don't know what I'm talking about, but it seems to me that "a company" needs to be really increased from "some company" up to life and death stakes.)

@AndrewDChristie 10 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@filmcourage 10 месяцев назад

Thank you Andrew! We appreciate your generosity in giving back to this channel and our work!

@filmcourage 3 года назад

What are your main takeaways from this video?

@megavideopowermegavideopow8657 3 года назад

How to look for conflict and find ways to put in character development ideas making for a better story and better movie

@G-Blockster 3 года назад

I've heard it said before, but I've never witnessed it during the brainstorming process until now: Story is a synthesis of character, setting, and plot. When pressured by conflict and an unsolvable dilemma in an organic way, all three become crystallized into a singular, powerful thematic principle. This is very instructive. Thank you.

@HomeAtLast501 3 года назад

Banal starting idea.

@Ruylopez778 3 года назад

@@HomeAtLast501 They presented a premise that is lacking, and discussed how to make it more compelling for the writer and audience. It's taking an abstract idea and showing an example of how it works in practice. That's what the video is about.

@HomeAtLast501 3 года назад

@@Ruylopez778 I know.

@jordanhenshaw 2 года назад

Question 1: What genre is this? Romcom? Thriller? Action? Drama? Q2: Is this a feature film, indie film, short film, show, 90 minute stage play, 120+ minute stage play, novel, short story, or something else. (An issue I’m seeing is that this could easily end up as a short film because there just isn’t much potential for hardship unless you really milk it. Dramas in and of themselves ate already hard to get produced if you don’t have name (in film)). Q3: What is your goal for this story? What are you trying to make the audience feel by the end? Q4: Where does the actual story begin? You started with a backstory, but I’m not sure where you intend to place the first scene. It should be as late as possible. Q5: What does your main character want to achieve at the beginning and how is he showing that? These are the kinds of questions you must ask before monologuing for 25 minutes straight. Honestly you should never monologue for 25 straight minutes when giving advice to someone sitting right in front of you. Talk WITH the person, not AT the person.

@raven7Mason 8 месяцев назад

good sting reference

@deanpapadopoulos3314 Год назад

This man is a bit of a genius.

@rodschmidt8952 2 года назад

What if he hides out in the Cayman Islands but only until the statute of limitations is up, or some other time limit is up?

@SusanModregon_WritersHopeChest Год назад

Her story did need more dilemma and motivation for her protagonist. She had him laying down too easy. - but his head strong can’t get past me attitude did not fit with her story as she described it.--I would instead make the dilemma about loyalty. If this was his dream job and somebody gave him his chance, he shouldn’t want to betray them, even if he is bored. And what if there were consequences like people getting hurt or losing their jobs. All that could be one side of the dilemma. Then on the side where he’s in love with her, maybe he sees something of himself and her. Maybe she confessed her deception because she feels for him, or he saw through her. But either way he senses that she’s somehow trapped the same way he feels trapped in his job. So he wants to be with her but how can he make it work with them on opposing sides at rival companies? Could be like the movie speechless 1994

@rodschmidt8952 2 года назад

What if he makes a decision but can't stick with it? (Other problems that come out of nowhere should be foreshadowed; nothing should truly come out of nowhere)

@InsideOutInkDemon 2 года назад

A true gent gives spoiler warnings for 20+ year old movie

@HerzogVonMartian Год назад

If I had to write that story with Derek I would have him one up Skylar and then offer her his head as in "you can take all you want and succeed or you can have me" and then she obviously betrays his love and trust and he becomes bitter and decides to destroy the rival company stopping only after Skylar is assassinated by the Rival company that she worked for because they assume it couldnt be anybody else but her who revealed their secrets. and so the Big Corporations "win" and continue their war, the two human beings lose all because of their choices. Derek who starts his own Tech Company could have chosen a less drastic method or perhaps just found a different woman to love, Skylar could have not sold her soul and the Companies ought to remind themselves they are dealing with humans, which Derek may or may not be mindful of in the future.

@vyomab515 3 года назад

He sounds like the creator of the world the scientist gets disappointed in. There's no one thing to point at without touching others, it's all possibilities and a huge network of pathways. P.s. The third path, yes. Thank you.

@ghostagee5232 2 года назад

Outsmarts the predator, forgives her and marries her! 🤗 Can't wait for the tragic sequel. Set in the suburbs.

@immaculateorganicsoaps3533 3 года назад

Plot twist: A groggy Derrick is awakened by banging on the hotel door. His head is pounding worse than the banging on the door. Laying next to Derrick is a scantily clad dead Skylar. She is mostly nude except for the scarf tied exceptional tight around her neck.

@klauslorentz4113 Год назад

Or he transforms the dilemma from 2 unaceptable options in some other alternative way moving the dilemma to the predator. Make the predator appear as such for whata he can use Skylar.

@challahsmith3257 Год назад

I think he complicated things she asked a question towards where she wanna take the story not conventional writing 😊

@rodschmidt8952 2 года назад

What if he comes up with the third path, and it STILL goes sour and ends in disaster?

@AltCTRLF8 3 года назад

Derek kills Skylar, wears her skin, then infiltrates Skylar’s company to take over.

@arthurpendragon8192 3 года назад

woah, the thing x matrix

@rodschmidt8952 2 года назад

What if the business shows him that it's NOT worth protecting--because it's corrupt, exploitative and so on?

@Beep1122POP Год назад

Anyone else feel like they share Derrick's dilemma?

@at-last 3 года назад

12:09

@dineshbichitkar5658 2 года назад

👍👍

@rebelyoot1927 3 года назад

Im glad he brought up training day, because Jake is NOT what he appears to be.

@dandyrevisionist7879 3 года назад

That Derek story is not compelling ,sorry it needs more spice to it.

@kamuelalee 3 года назад

Derrick is transgender.

@dandyrevisionist7879 3 года назад

@@kamuelalee now it can win an Oscar, but it won't sell movie tickets.

@kamuelalee 3 года назад

@@dandyrevisionist7879 A darling of the critics but flops with the average movie-goer.

@dandyrevisionist7879 3 года назад

@@kamuelalee good one.

@philipmann5317 2 года назад

I was thinking the same thing, lots of people get recruited, and people choose. It isn't that unusual or that compelling.

@horusseth9496 3 года назад

Out of all film courage videos, I had a hard time understanding him

@dustyhills8911 3 года назад

I feel like with Jeff you have to be patient and listen intently to his slow pace. I feel like his brain is going a million miles an hour in there with all of the concepts and language he knows, and he's trying to boil it down to terms we all can follow between his brain and his mouth. I think he has some really great ways of thinking about story.

@rodschmidt8952 2 года назад

What if there's a bad guy in the company, and the exposed facts make that bad guy take the fall?

@____uncompetative 2 года назад

This is what you do. You switch from Derrick to Skylar mid way through the movie and show the dilemma she is in which is forcing her to use sex to manipulate hapless men to betray their employers. Perhaps the 3rd act is when they are honest with each other. Perhaps Derrick says he knows he is being manipulated and does not care. Skylar admits she does not love him, but breaks down in tears, upset at the manipulation she was forced into. Derrick cares for Skylar beyond his needs, and although it is a hard pill to swallow he respects her more for being honest with him and wants to help her in what her predicament may be. Who is forcing her to trap him into espionage. How can this be subverted? Can her employers be fed false information regarding a chip design in which Derrick is aware of a known bug (which he has yet to tell upper management of) that would have led to an expensive recall has they gone to production with it, which they can let the rival firm steal and mass produce, crippling the rival company with lawsuits for this bad product? What does the rival company have on Skylar? Is she a blackhat phone phreak that got caught war driving and was given a choice of prison or the FBI's cyber division, which has been corrupted by this large corporate Democrat donor. Mix some NSA in there. Have the chip needed by Northrop-Grumman. Have a car chased by three unmarked silent black helicopters. Something more interesting for the trailer than what would look like a 'meet cute'.

@MyMusic-cd3do 10 месяцев назад

He could have condensed this into a ten-minute video, but it wouldn't have been as gripping watching his process.

@klauslorentz4113 Год назад

Option: I like my Job and I like her. Where is the dilemma?. Send it back to sender.

@jck9590 Год назад

The nerd in me is still trynna figure out why Derrick, in his 30's, born around 1990, would have a Commodore 64?

@filmcourage Год назад

He's into retro technology? It was his Father's? Good catch. Back to the drawing board. :)

@griannaashwood6394 Год назад

Through a failed attempt to assassinate her, Skylar (while with Derek) learns that she has a price on her head from a previous "mission" gone wrong. Perhaps this job was her last chance? Perhaps Derek contacts an old college buddy that now works for the FBI? Derek could set up another darabase with fake data to use and gives her the key to the fake one. There's many different possibilities including a happy turned tragic ending.

@thepaulinemarie 6 месяцев назад

Well what he does is he thinks he can have his cake and eat it too. So he builds a backdoor in what he does so that he can pull the plug anytime he wants, because his company is owned by his mentor - like a father figure. What happens when he tries to pull back, is the bad guys shoot Sykler in front of him and threatens his mother and handicapped sister if he does not complete the task.

@OnyxKwina 2 года назад

I love this channel. But, I wish that the interviewer would think out her example premises or MC before asking about how to improve on a weak idea. She seems to have made up these example ideas on the spot. (Derek, Pam, or a plot example of an unhappy office worker who moonlights as a lingerie promoter... ect) The character examples or plot ideas here and in other vids are often so uninteresting that it would be difficult for anyone to improve upon. Perhaps, allow these professionals to give their own examples, highlight the changes that could be made to improve their work or idea example, would better highlight the creative process.

@filmcourage 2 года назад

Thank you for the feedback. I will take it in. Actually many (sadly) are not thought of on the spot. A few details may be added in the moment (I guess a testament to the work that needs improvement). Thanks for letting me know and we appreciate you watching the channel. Hope all is well. :)

@gutenbird 3 года назад

Actually The Firm, the movie version was a copout of an ending. Over billing. Seriously lame compared to the book.

@ArchiduquesaMA 3 года назад

I dont know if anyone here watch AoT but this whole video screams Eren Jeager

@Mellorolo 2 года назад

First off, the dude hates the fake name "derrick"... "whats his name again???"

@jacobstaten2366 3 года назад

This guy could probably make a career of just take existing ideas and scripts instead of working on his own stuff.

@ACanofHopePodcast 5 месяцев назад

This was a 40-minute way of saying this isn't the best idea

@BlueJazzBoyNZ 3 года назад

The set up is Pure BS This is click bait

@robhardingpoetry 3 года назад

@jameswarren2150 2 года назад

My take-away is, Jeff Kitchen is a genius at formulating and expanding a story. In a matter of minutes, he wrote your entire story. WOW! I gleaned so-o-o-o much for my own story. I, no doubt, will need to rewrite my entire outline, and first chapter. wow! I feel he was actually picturing that story in his mind and probably forgot about the interviewer and that she was there, the way he kept looking up and using his hands. My goodness. I'd give anything to have Jeff's mind for just an hour. Too bad I can only like this once.

@peterdollins3610 3 года назад

He could then try to play her to bring down the company she is working for? Lots of possibilities.

@jacobstaten2366 3 года назад

Sort of like Jin-Roh.

@therunawayrascal 3 года назад

wow, he really ran with that one in an impressive way! good stuff. thank you both!

@filmcourage 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@TheWorld_2099 3 года назад

He was working hard to breathe some life into that idea...!

@TomorrowisYesterday 2 года назад

Not good. I don’t how he thinks he can go on for that long without asking a single question. Just likes to hear himself talk, I guess. You ALWAYS ask questions. The most important thing in giving advice isn’t giving advice: it’s asking the right questions and actually ENGAGING with the artist. You can’t just monologue. WTF. This isn’t advice: this is a preacher.

@sharminmeghjani417 2 года назад

@@filmcourage hi I’m writing hindi script but I’m not getting pick up points i want see old script just to compare

@Chofer944 2 года назад

@@TomorrowisYesterday except she specifically asked him to TEACH, which is what he was doing. The entire point of this exercise was to give an example of how to break down broad concepts into concrete ideas that could potentially result in forward courses of action. The intended takeaway here was not for the specific plot details but broad-stroke ideas and processes. She gave him a rough example and he demonstrated different, specific methods for thinking through dilemma escalation and conflict resolution. He did exactly what she asked him to do and I found it fascinating and enlightening.

@josephl9619 3 года назад

I have watched a lot of these kinds of videos. I think this guy is the best i have watched. He gets it. And he explains things very well.

@RattledEditor 3 года назад

he is amazing! THANKS to film courage for featuring Jeff Kitchen because i am now one of his students.💯💖

@Neomatrixology 3 года назад

First take away is that Jeff Kitchen is brilliant at expanding ideas. I was excited to realize I had already created a "3rd door" for my protagonist. Listening to Jeff explain why the dillemas in films like *Training Day* & *The Firm* connect with the audience gave me a few notes on how I should approach cranking up the drama.

@Rikalonius 3 года назад

So if this is a real script, send me a message on you tube. The character of Derrick, or Derek if you want to use the form my father used to name my brother, is very much like me. I had a commodore 64, I was big into computers as a teenager, and today I'm a cyber security engineer. However, my life between those points was much different than "go to college, get job, work my way up in job." It was more windy with a military career in between. I think I could help with the idea. As I listened to the whole video in my car on my way to work I kept thinking of different ways to move the characters, depending on the genre. Just a thought.

@seanferguson5460 Год назад

This is a masterclass. It's amazing watching his process. What an extraordinarily generous guy!

@filmcourage Год назад

More to come!

@AG-vk5or 3 года назад

More of a jeff kitchen!

@filmcourage 3 года назад

We still have a lot more!

@dustyhills8911 3 года назад

I concur!

@Xero_Wolf 3 года назад

I like way that he looks as though he's seeing the story develop right in front of him when he looks up or off to the side.

@Ruylopez778 3 года назад

The Firm ends quite differently in the novel, and I prefer that ending. It is also a 'third way out'.

@tonebenderx 2 года назад

Agreed. The movie, in my opion, was decidedly meh. Case in point, watch the trailer ... so much running and running and running.

@two-moonz2953 3 года назад

The idea reminded of Ex Machina. The computer programmer is a pawn in a game of manipulation.

@theTeslaFalcon 2 года назад

I think the more eviseral transition where the dilemma comes to a crux is when he discovers at the end of Act II that she has been manipulating him. So we, the audience, might know / suspect that she's dirty, but the series of security breaches at work & the blossoming romance should be fairly separate story lines until late. Thus his work life comes into conflict w his personal life and his inability to solve the IT problem is shown to be directly related to his off-work activities. This whole thing has been about Derek's dilemma, but another option is for HER to be an unwilling pawn in the situation. Thus Derek might he able to rescue her from them (thus salvaging their relationship) & turn the tables on the hackers at the same time ala Luke turning Vader from the darkside. In the final scene, the cards are revealed to show the reality of the situation which could be 1 of several different scenarios depending on the writer's choice. A) She lied. Her sad backstory was made up. B) He lied. He used her to get the hackers. C) Her handler is her husband. Her relationship was a lie. D) He lied. He paid her husband to hack the company to steal a billion dollars, but now he's double crossing them so they get nothing. E) etc.

@AshwinKumar-rj8ot 3 года назад

Great video. That’s a great recipe from the kitchen!

@Upploadz 3 года назад

These interviews are great!

@filmcourage 3 года назад

Thanks Thomas, we have a new video with Jeff Kitchen going up at 5pm PST tonight!

@gabriellag2611 Год назад

Jeff gives 30 minutes of gold and then says "Is that helpful?" Haha -- YES! Excellent advice. Breaks things down simply and reassuringly to get a plot on the right track. I really appreciate this interview.

@jeremybuchholz6804 2 года назад

It's amazing to watch the process evolve. I take a lot out of the typical talk on how to make your writing better. But to see it in action is far more impactful.

@christianjadot4459 3 года назад

He tried way to hard with Derrick. Make the company he works for a fundamentally a company that is trying to do good and it’s rival not so much.

@Bat_Boy 3 месяца назад

I dunno...alot of words, for what we instinctively know. Dilemma. My input...dont do this too much.

@safiya5940 Год назад

Predictability is really boring, in real life or in stories, amplify the dilemma, the magnitude, don't make sedative dilemma's where the audience says - "so what, who cares", the third creative solution decided on the feet, the story must have a powerful impact on the audience, they must be transformed, transfigured, never think the same way again, a great story must change the world, and the BEST ONES DO!!!! great lesson from Jeff Kitchen, thanks to FC.

@evanantonola4935 2 года назад

I'm thinking of Derek not caring about anything just to be with Skylar is sad. That is a story arc you need to change and make a happy ending. I think the story needs Derek to care about 'what is at stake' with his life to intensify the problem. A realization of what makes a man really happy. He needs to find out what life is really all about. Adding romance is telling us that romantic love solves everything. But i think it is deeper than that. If i am the writer, i will add a ticking bomb, maybe a terminal disease to push him to live a happy life. That is better than boredom as a catalyst. Maybe the medication causes him to hallucinate. :). Maybe Skylar doesnt really exist. And maybe a backstory explaining why he chose to stay in that stagnant world of IT because no one can force anyone i believe. Skylar is an embodiment of someone in his unsettled past. We know he can leave the IT world if it bores him. It is not really a problem. And romance is not enough solution. There is no life and death situation and real 'at stake'. It is a rebirth story of Derek.

@hamuArt Год назад

in his mind :D and wakes up to go to the construction factory... - How was your trip Tomas?

@letsgo9901 3 года назад

Thanks Film Courage !

@rufusballa-mallard3288 3 года назад

More like Jeff HOUSE! This guys got it all!

@AustralianInSiberia 2 года назад

My current character drafting could use some of this. I can see them with much more impact. Brilliant, Jeff.

@LeonAllanDavis 3 года назад

What the heck is a "moral compass"? This is one of those terms that has no meaning and in fact, clenches my jaws when I hear it. For example, General Milley called a Hellfire missile that killed seven small Afghani kids "a righteous strike". No doubt the general regards himself as a highly moral man with a 17-jewel moral compass.