Just noticed not one interchiller upgrade done by C and A on supercharged holden Engines( which can increase power by 40 rwkw just with that upgrade ), hum wonder why, they must be able and capable to be able to do this type of upgrade ?
Because the owner of my favorite car is letting Holden die. They have systematically killed Holden by cutting Holden's exports (which was important), killing plans for using the Holden designed Zeta chassis for other cars in GM's line up etc etc.. Like i said, my fingers are crossed they become bankrupt soon.
Николай Петаларев Holden is dead without the Commodore, which they have said will not be made in Australia after 2016. The cars Holden will be selling in the future will bring the company to an end (they will basically bring chevrolet cars and re-badge them). Holden were exporting Commodores and Statesman/Caprice to the Middle East and they were selling successfully. In fact the Holden Caprice won car of the year over there in 2006, where the American cadillac was also being sold...GM decided to take over the export program from Holden and basically shut it down. GM can go fuck themselves, i wish them the worst of luck and bankruptcy.
mloutherback ***** This GTS has an entirely different drivetrain. Even the engine is in a different position in the bay. Torque vectoring diff, twin plate clutch, edi infotainment, race designed larger brakes, enlarged engine bay cooling, suspension and wheel geometry is different. It isn't simply 'power'. The brakes alone are $5000.
I am getting confused whether the power is measured at the fly wheel or rear wheel ?Can't they just measure crank HP like how the yanks do it. Much easier to understand.
the power at the fly wheel has not yet lost any power from the gearbox and shaft and whatnot. the wheel horse power is calculated after all the lost power i believe. that is why they say rwhp or whp to show the power that is going to the wheels because that is the power left the engine can give. hoped that helps...
People check this guys LSA engine build, which is what most VF HSV engines mods should be like. cheers :) pannetron.dyndns.org/newpbr/public_html/lsa-build/.
Just checked OZ Tracks computer info on all aspects of the CPU for the engine & all other aspects which have parameters, like coolant, AIR to Fuel ratios, & when all these are effected, including Trans Temp, air intake temp & so much else, i wonder if C & A & con do all this as part of the Upgrades to the tuning side of things, or just leave all those factory settings, heres a link of what i am talking about ? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Mq-Xm41dMhw.html, it looks like theres a lot to consider, unless CON has already don all this via a USB stick upload for the computer to change everything, but then again how are you going to know what was changed & what was not ? HUM I wonder how it effects the car, especially if the car is a day to day driver, no matter what it is, Redline HSV or even just a SS ?
I still have not seen a hub V's wheels spin pressure dyno and how much difference there is with the same car ? After all its all estimation, but hub dynos tell you what the rear wheels are really doing, V's the wheels pressure dyno you can change things like tyre pressures and even unroadworthy tyres compared to the hub dyno, The Wheel king showed me a container full of brand new tyres which were not technical roadworthy tyres ie: all brand new tyres from all the good brands and average brands and they were not perfect ie: small round bubbles on the outside so not round and also the outer walls were not straight due to the inner walls steel belt not put in right so much rests on those good tyres its not funny? Including perilli, contis Bridgestone dunlops so on and so on ? I have forgotten the name of his machine which balances the wheels and tyres, basically its puts 1.5 ton of pressure on the wheels / tyres surface as its spins and also there's a laser light on the edge of the tyer as its spins and then they check if it passes with in tolerances of the factory tyres manufacturing specs, if not its in the container and gets sent back . for as full refund ?
We did a back yo back test on a Mazda it went from 737 to 808hp on hub. There would be more of a difference with a higher torque engine i.e a turbo V8 over a turbo 4 etc.
@@fullboost cheers thanks for that, i thought it would be higher, maybe due to wheelspin, but i would have hub any day compared to wheel spinning dino's especially with HIGH HP Motors. :)
buyer beware, don't take your car to autofashion, not to be trusted, not up front will parts , brands, what's supplied for your hard earned money, con & andrew not honest , stay away from this place , take your car elsewhere so you at least know what your paying for , they believe their own bullshit
the engine isn't a product of holden HSV the engine is Chevy thru and thru the heartbeat of America without the chevy engines holden would have died years ago
What the hell 70 KW at the rear wheel more than stock, yet would have cost around 10K for the job, cold air filter, Heads, springs, pushrods CAM and 3" full headers and cat back system not much really when you think about it, i know whats happening, people have way too much extra cash and spend it via aftermarket performance products and the number of performance products places has tripled over the last couple of years, put this way only 10 years ago you had only a few performance upgrades and people who did them right, like Harrop, Herrod and their supporting business and now almost every mechanic how worked for some place or another went to turner school online and opened a business doing upgrades ? Just like the ceramic coating industry, not that the stuff works or that tunning your car will have extra benefits its about when something goes wrong when the real headaches begin ?
Agree 100%, but not willing to pay that much for that much extra power thats all, still a nice gain when you think about it, . :) Keep up the great work guys ? Cant wait till they have the specials going ? Maybe a supercharger fitted for less than 10K. :) Which is headers, supercharger, caskets, coolant ,tune etc, or find a 2nd hand unit off a LSA GTS and then getting it fitted would save around 5K. :)
Well a Interchiller will give you an extra 40 RWKW as well, but not sure how much it is, so with all the current mods with an extra 40, so basically around the 550RWKW is not to bad considering its a new engine with aftermarket bolt on mods and internals still stock. :) I have seen a LSa web page which is dedicated to doing mods on the engine is well worth it if looking at making the engine bullet proof, but again its like the old story, Money = HP = quicker car, but the more you spend ,then the more your want. cheers :)
This car has only 314kw at rear wheels factory fresh but factory at HSV says 430kw.... Ford GT-F has only 333kw at rear wheels but FPV factory says 351kw + 15% booster... NOW , JUST LETS LOOK AT THIS PROPAGANDA SHIT FOR ONE SECOND! HSV is lying to you, saying 430kw but giving only 314kw average from best Utube dyno tests. FPV is lying to you, saying 351kw but giving only 333kw average from multiple dyno Utube tests. HSV GTS is 6.2 litre supercharged... FPV GT-F is 5.0 litres supercharged.........The Holden, 1.2 litres larger but with less power and torque at the rear wheels than the Ford...Of course push rods Vs OHC...may , will do something... DRAG RESULTS: 100m, GTS is 4.2 seconds and GT-P is 5.1 seconds... 400m, GTS is 12.1 seconds the GT-P is 13.1 seconds.... So the falcon with more power and torque is the slowest by far... and the Holden VF GenF eats the falcon for breakfast....Also around all tracks in Aus...but the Holden VF GenF has less power and less torque...and is heavier. SO THE POINT IS, DYNOS, POWER AND TORQUE ARE A WASTE OF TIME, THEY TELL NOTHING ABOUT THE TOP SPEED OR ACCELERATION OF ANY CAR.... DYNO TORQUE AND KW OR HORSEPOWER ARE A LOAD OF SHIT.... THE ONLY WAY TO SEE IF A CAR IS MORE POWERFUL OR HAS MORE TORQUE IS TO TEST IT ON THE DRAG STRIP AND ON THE RACETRACK AND COMPARE.. So when buying a new car, ask for its 100m time and quarter mile, and top speed... If you ask for horsepower, kilowatts or torque, well then, you might as well ask the cat... BECAUSE IN AUSTRALIA, kilowatts and torque don't mean shit (!!!) and you can take that to the bank......They mean and have nothing to do with driving a car only restraining it........ The only indication of a faster car is its engine capacity....aka 6.2 litre Vs 5.0 litre... This is science....proven..Because Dyno Australia says the weaker, less powerful, heavier but comparable car will lose the race all the time, but it turns out to be the complete opposite... So from Dyno, if your similar car has less power and less torque than your mates Then be happy, knowing that your car will outrace his over 100m, over the quarter mile and also on any track he races you at..... Dyno readings, what a load of Shit (!!!) I just bought a new HSV GTS GenF and I am really pissed as once upon a time, I thought horsepower and torque actually meant something, about speed and acceleration and driving a car... I was totally wrong... Ripped Off.......
Since when does the FPV out torque the GTS? Dyno sheets that I have seen have the GTS making much more torque and power throughout the rev range and the GTF only just beats in power at peak rpm around 6000rpm. Hence the GTS outperforming it everywhere in regards to performance. And another thing its almost impossible to know the GTS makes 430kw unless you put the motor on an engine dyno
Fuck some cunts still are going on about shit like this and still don't know and understand about the difference with power from the wheels and power from the engine itself like holy shit
Mate you don't know what you are talking about. When HSV says it is 430kw from factory they mean from the fly wheel not rear wheel. If you convert 430kw fly wheel to rear wheel you get 325 rwkw (manual) @ 1.32 (loss to wheels ratio) And 314rwkw for an auto @ 1.37 (loss to wheels ratio, slightly more being an automatic) Then you there's also and hp, rwhp but in Australia, usually most dyno's go off RWKW. Anyone can give you a figure of their car but there's a huge difference if they are talking about HP (flywheel) down to Rwkw (kw rear wheel)
The 430kw that HSV quote for the GTS and the 351kw that FPV quote for the GT-F are flywheel figures not rear wheel! The ability of any motor vehicle to achieve 0 to 100kph and 1/4 miles times is obviously not limited to engine output. The GTS has a far superior suspension setup then the FPV with magnetic adjustable dampers and torque vectoring with wider rubber. May I suggest you do a little more research before spending a 100K on a motor vehicle. You would have been better off buying a 2nd hand Nissan GT-R.
9 лет назад
FlyingPhil70 except he didn't spend 100K on a motor vehicle. If he had he would not be disappointed. :)
