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Hubitat vs Home Assistant - Best Smart Home Hub 

Paul Hibbert (Hibbert Home Tech)
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Which Smart Home System is best? Which Smart Home hub should you buy? This video will anger the nerds to the point of total melt down.
This video is sponsored by Hubitat, all opinions are my own.
This is a Hubitat Elevation C7 review, and comparison to Home Assistant. Both systems aim to get all smart home devices in one app, both aim to make your Smart Home cloud free, and both are Zigbee and Zwave compatible. The question is, which is the best Smart Home Hub of 2022?
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TUYA ZIGBEE MOTION SENSORS AND DOOR SENSORS:
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ZIGBEE PLUG SOCKET (REQUIRES ZIGBEE HUB SUCH AS HUBITAT OR SMARTTHINGS):
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MOON LAMP (TUYA SMART LIFE WIFI - NO HUB REQUIRED)
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US: Unavailable :(
LIFX BEAM
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SOMA SMART BLIND MOTOR:
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:53 - The Problem with the cloud
1:43 - What is Hubitat?
2.50 - What is Home Assistant?
3:35 - How Much does Home Assistant / Hubitat Cost?
6:43 - Home Assistant vs Hubitat Ease Of Use
9:14 - Smart Home Automations
10:02 - Device compatability

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@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
Happy Saturday everyone! In case it's not clear, both systems are awesome, but no Smart Home solution is without it's faults. I imagine this sentence alone has enraged a large group of lunatics 🤣 If you're interested in buying what you need to put either solution together then they are linked below!... ***BUY THE HUBITAT ELEVATION BELOW*** GLOBAL LINK: hubitat.com/products ***GET MY HOME ASSISTANT SETUP BELOW*** As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. By buying through any of the links below I will earn commission at no extra cost to you :) BUY THE CONBEE STICK: UK: amzn.to/3JOseIr US: amzn.to/3sn3KzX BUY A RASPBERRY PI (Power supply case and SD card not included so make sure you order them too!): UK: amzn.to/3z3kS1J US: amzn.to/3hlmuJS BUY THE NES CASE (*Be aware that this case has a shielding issue that affects Bluetooth and Zigbee, you can solve this by swapping the USB cables round in a weird way, more info here*: www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/ipvbon/retroflag_nespi_4_case_issue_with_24ghz_wifi/ UK: amzn.to/3lqPJgu US: amzn.to/3G3GOeA BUY THE KINGSTON SSD DRIVE UK: amzn.to/3Pp2ohE US: amzn.to/3LrB27p
@covertpuppytwo3857
@covertpuppytwo3857 2 года назад
Finally, you admit that Hubitat ALSO provides local control of your home automations without the need for the Cloud. One thing though...in the video you talk about the need to add apps to Hubitat then go on to say why wouldn't Hubitat automatically include the Dashboard... well... because Hubitat actually has more than one dashboard app that you can add that it supports!!! Why would I want all these apps pre-installed in Hubitat if I'm not going to use them... that's the reason!!! I'm currently using two of these dashboard apps and neither one is the one you showed in your video!
@darrians2912
@darrians2912 2 года назад
Having trouble finding pies
@espressomatic
@espressomatic 2 года назад
Hubitat is anything but awesome. The ui is terrible. It’s slow AF. Poor support for integrations compared to HA or even something as esoteric as Indigo for macOS. Just a terrible experience. Lasted 2 weeks here and I pitched it back to Amazon lightning quick.
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
@@covertpuppytwo3857 I "admitted" it provides local control 3 years ago when I first reviewed it 🤣 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hLy0MOpSbmI.html
@philliphugh3347
@philliphugh3347 2 года назад
I bought a new yacht yesterday 💯 true!
@garethjones5068
@garethjones5068 2 года назад
Surely Home Assistant is a Yamlgotchi………I’ll get my coat
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
You can stay on this occasion. That's just brilliant. Xxx
@garethjones5068
@garethjones5068 2 года назад
@@paulhibbert Script doctoring & punny caption writing services are available for a meagre £300 per word
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
Bargain! Xxx
@walkerleigh
@walkerleigh 2 года назад
Lol!
@walkerleigh
@walkerleigh 2 года назад
More like Yamlgotcha.
@JamesScholesUK
@JamesScholesUK 2 года назад
The reason Hubitat does local ZigBee and zwave so well is that it was put together by a bunch of disgruntled SmartThings enthusiasts who got sick of waiting for Samsung to fix things and rolled their own instead. Basically it's all the amazing developer community who built all the amazing third party stuff in SmartThings, now with their own hardware. I believe the two original aims were: 1. everything local that can possibly be local 2. stability over whizzy new features
@espressomatic
@espressomatic 2 года назад
But their Z-Wave isn't as good as Z-Wave JS. And their entire platform is flawed at the core in usability with no signs of improvement. Yeah I did that for a week and quickly returned the product. I was so pissed at the lack of quality and polish that I didn't even have time/effort to be disappointed.
@nickharvey5149
@nickharvey5149 2 года назад
@@espressomatic I expect you are also kind to small animals and children!!
@bz3086
@bz3086 2 года назад
Paul Hi'ert! Your skits remind me of Saturday morning cartoons. Always pumped on Saturday mornings because of you! PS- We built a temple in your name!!
@michaelboys2602
@michaelboys2602 2 года назад
Brilliant video, as always, Paul. Also, your NES home assistant shell is awesome!!!!
@bonivuselderheart2716
@bonivuselderheart2716 2 года назад
I went with the hubitat primarily because of the 'no-subscription' amazon integration feature. There's also a 3rd party integration that lets you send strings to the amazon devices ("Echo Speaks") which will let you do things like pushing a zigbee button and have a specific echo device start a timer or do other interesting things. (At least that's what I use it for; I have a couple of the bluetooth clocks paired with a couple echos, so I push a button and the one at my desk kicks off a 1 hour timer to remind me to get the laundry, for example.) I will note that hubitat does have updates on a regular basis for bugfixes and quality of life improvements; but it's not intrusive about them, and they do require internet access. It's been ridiculously stable for me otherwise.
@bonivuselderheart2716
@bonivuselderheart2716 2 года назад
I want to add that before I went in with the Hubitat, I did try Home assistant, and it was OK but I ran into some of the same issues described with the utterly crap dashboards out of the box and the pay wedge for amazon integration.
@Mr_Gadge
@Mr_Gadge 2 года назад
I have a tuya Wi-Fi blaster for IR with hubitat. Works great! I don’t need rf but I’m sure they do one? It was a tenner and I’ve had it a couple of years with Alexa “let’s watch telly” etc switching the lot on. I never thought I’d hear “sexy” in the same DAY as hubitat dash’s being mentioned lol. It’s truly awful lol. Sharptools comes closer to “I would with 10 pints” but still not sexy. I just wish they’d flatten this complaint once and for all. I tried HA, meh. Too nerdy and needy. If you like ignoring your family and spending hours to make a device work it’s fine I’m sure. Keep up the great work! Oh and keep bringing the moaners in 🤓 I’ll just sit back and wait for the HA nerds to kick in. ☺️
@garathekd
@garathekd 2 года назад
I started with Hubitat and then added HA as something fun to play with. I now use them together. Hubitat handles the zigbee and zwave and will use the hubitat cloud for notifications and Alexa/google. HA controls wifi devices, connection to homekit for siri control, and TTS announcements. Automation is divided up between which ever platform does what I want the best for that task. I also like hubitat better for making virtual devices.
@sygad1
@sygad1 2 года назад
I completely agree, you CAN go the long way round and connect it manually (I did) but OMG, it is ridiculously difficult and many times I had to replay the YT video that was guiding me
@reviewassistant6891
@reviewassistant6891 2 года назад
Hey the better option is to buy into a cloud company because there is no way that can fail you 😜
@Enispecialist
@Enispecialist 2 года назад
Hi Paul, excellent video. I’m one of those bizarre users who uses both platforms together. Someone wrote a wonderful home assistant integration for Hubitat. I initially bought a Hubitat, but ran into two problems: 1. Using their dashboard configuration is akin to smashing your hand repeatedly with a claw hammer 2. Their documentation was absolute garbage so writing any integrations, or more advanced automations was hopeless for someone like me who can code but is not a hardcore dev. Therefore all my zigbee and zwave devices are on Hubitat, and I also use Hubitat for my more rudimentary automations. Initially home assistant had really awful automations. I also use the echo integration for Hubitat. I use home assistant for the dashboard and for any advanced automations such as my automation that uses the high and low temperatures for the day to determine which mode my thermostat uses.
@jayextarys8616
@jayextarys8616 2 года назад
Been a long time since i watch your vids. I looove your humor. Not enough yachts and Ohh the zigbe are my favorite moments
@TomWard-jd7it
@TomWard-jd7it 2 года назад
Have watched you for years, very glad you’ve covered Hubitat which is my smart home hub of choice. I’ve had a great time with it and it suits me fine. Would love to see more Hubitat content, or just mentioning in the future the the devices you cover are supported by Hubitat? It would help my purchasing choices. Thanks from another East Midlander.
@ArnoSnyman007
@ArnoSnyman007 Год назад
I bought the Hubitat based on a lot of Googling and I think it was a waste of money. There are so many things not supported (including user drivers). They have a VERY small Ikea list, which makes up a lot of my smart home set up. I am trying my best to make the best out of a bad situation, but I will say that Hubitat feels like a waste. I should have gone with Home Assistant.
@smitty9398
@smitty9398 2 года назад
Just recently got started with my home automation system. My focus has been home security. I went the Hubitat route and stayed with things that were directly compatible. Hubitat has worked great for me. With my home security system stability, reliability, and much less need to maintain the system were important to me. I can see how enthusiasts would appreciate Home Assistant but for me I already have a ton of time consuming hobbies and I just need this thing to work and to be low maintenance. And... NO cloud. Paul... I just need to hear you say... Hubitat, Hubitat, Hubitat!!!
@alfredallen6113
@alfredallen6113 2 года назад
Nice one. How did you set it up?
@smitty9398
@smitty9398 2 года назад
@@alfredallen6113 I would say the most interesting part was getting my wired cameras that operate with Blue Iris in the system. The Cameras have Deep Stack AI running so they only trigger if it is a human being. And, the doors all have sensors. Glass break detectors throughout. Motion detection.... Next I went with several sirens and lights as action devices. Even connected up a police/fire rotating red light like you see on EMS vehicles. So, if someone gets near the parameter or comes through it the lights and alarms go off all over the house. I set up several tablets to control the system. There are even small windows that display what the cameras are seeing on the tablets. Everything is local and battery backed up. I do not have Alexa involved as in my experience... it is just not reliable enough. I set up Text-to-Speech on the tablets and my laptop to do the announcements. I have a ton of rules that control everything. I have been able to stay mostly with the apps supplied by Hubitat. Although my Kasa lights are driven locally by a community set of drivers. With a security system it has to work when you really need it to work so, I have worked to keep things as simple as possible. Some downsides... the dashboard really needs an upgrade. It is pretty plain and is in need of more enhanced functionality. Also, I found that the zigbee devices were apparently interfering with my LAN to a degree. I run Unifi equipment and the dashboard started showing a lot more errors after setting up all the zigbee devices as they run on the same radio spectrum. So, I switched to z-wave which seems to be better for security as it has built in security and it runs on 900 MHz. After switching to z-wave the error message rate returned to normal on the Unifi equipment. And, lastly I have found that some vendors sensors/devices work better than others. I have replaced several and went with other vendors. Depending upon your point of view... typically stuff that is very feature rich is going to involve a steeper learning curve. Getting all of this to work took an effort. I got through it all with Google searches that started with the word Hubitat. I think I have only really needed to ask questions about one device that was difficult to pair. Most of what I needed to know I found that someone had already mastered, so I just followed along. If I take home automation out any further than home security I would probably set up another system. Again, I want the home security system to be very reliable and straightforward... less moving parts.
@alfredallen6113
@alfredallen6113 2 года назад
Thank you for the thorough reply. Can you give me your email, assist to set up something similar?
@PopCultureMixTape
@PopCultureMixTape Год назад
@@smitty9398 What door contacts, motion detectors, and keypads did you go with?
@fp30e
@fp30e 2 года назад
Hi Paul, You mentioned Philips Hue (sorry) without being sick!!!!! Loved the slap. Another interesting and great video. Have a great week. Take care.
@JohnMcLaughlinPlus
@JohnMcLaughlinPlus 2 года назад
This is a pretty good comparison -- I've used both and while I think home assistant is more expansive (in terms of device support and crazy things you can do) habitat basically just works. For me I settled on habitat -- My devices & automation have worked effectively flawlessly for a few years now and there are a lot of community drivers (and honestly it's not that hard to write you own drivers)
@AlsoAlaskanBeard
@AlsoAlaskanBeard 2 года назад
I think future compatibility is something to consider as well. Home assistant, since you're using a dongle and running off an RPi means if a new standard is released you can upgrade for a fraction of the cost of a competing product. And anecdotally, I barely have to touch HomeAssistant. I've been using it for over 2 years and only had a couple issues, both of which were related to breaking changes in an update I didn't bother to read patch notes for. And honestly, I should be reading patch notes before upgrading any infrastructure in my house. Obviously this is just my experience, but I don't think HomeAssistant needs any attention unless it's to add or keep up to date.
@martynlidbury3700
@martynlidbury3700 2 года назад
This video has inspired me to try home assistant again. I too have a lot of Tuya smart life gear but when I last tried the ir sensors I have (and something else Iv forgotten) weren’t compatible so gave up. Thanks Paul :)
@kurtwilliams3943
@kurtwilliams3943 2 года назад
I’m not afraid to admit it. You are easily my favorite RU-vid channel. The fact that it’s smart home stuff is entirely beside the point. You could switch tomorrow to a show about the Kardashians and I would still watch, though not after hovering my thumb over the play button for a few seconds of self introspection. All things considered, I’m glad you chose Bezos jokes over Kanye jokes. Well done. I launch RU-vid just to tune in to your channel.
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
That's really kind of you to say man ❤️ thank you 😊
@DrFiero
@DrFiero 2 года назад
Yay Hubitat! Got mine when the C5 first came out, it still works perfectly.
@spencerbigum1309
@spencerbigum1309 Год назад
Need a re-review now again I think with all the latest updates! Great job 👏
@georgeboydratcliff1036
@georgeboydratcliff1036 Год назад
Bang on! I was a keen Home Assistant owner, but got sick of fixing it. I’ve had Hubitat a couple of years, and it just keeps working
@pimw9805
@pimw9805 2 года назад
Hi Paul, thank you for the comparison. I've never used Hubitat but i've worked with Home Assistant since a year or two. Your pointers are pretty spot on: Home Assistant can do a lot, but it is high maintenance: there are many breaking changes with every monthly release. This way of working has also a big advantage though: innovation speed is crazy fast. Preventing breaking changes would directly mean that innovation speed would go a lot, lot slower. If you're not considering yourself as a tinkerer, i would stay far away from Home Assistant. Don't put it in your moms house. Community wise, there are a lot of friendly people on the Home Assistant fora and Discord channels, but there are a few fanatics as well (your impersonation is pretty funny) which sometimes feels as an energy drainer. All in all, i'm pretty happy with my choice for Home Assistant: i'm considering this as a hobby, and yes, every hobby costs time. I'm just hoping that the release cycles will be chilled down once the platform is solid enough so that non-tech-savy-people can start using it.
@willdwyer6782
@willdwyer6782 2 года назад
Nobody says you have to update home assistant every week. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
@pimw9805
@pimw9805 2 года назад
That's true. If it is blocked from internet access, that would be my advice too. If it is connected to the internet, security is a consideration and regular updates are advisable.
@reviewassistant6891
@reviewassistant6891 2 года назад
You could always yanno not update monthly?
@flipside1o1
@flipside1o1 2 года назад
I guess it's like anything that attempts to support all the things there is no way to fully test all combos and your always going to break something. I've never had an update issue but still diligently check the release notes just in case
@asdkjh4370
@asdkjh4370 2 года назад
With all respect but promoting this "platform" is really like selling "snake oil" - countless security issues - within HA and with "integrations" not to mention HACKs, and when you addressing this with examples - "developers" banning you from official forum without warrning. There is also politicaly correct bias with community so if you not following current trends you will also get banned. Deveopers started even banning russian developers:)))) Which is just crazy. And last but no least - non existing stability which has long lasting tradition and it seems that it will never end. If you really thing that you want put your famili safety and security in such a "profesional" and "responsible" envirnoment then good luck. If you just want reliable system - stay away from this "dumpster fire" and chose commercial solution or even alternative because even free alternatives take security way more seriously. By installing this software there is very big risk that you will expose your smart home to the World. ['[
@royperkins694
@royperkins694 2 года назад
The conbee vid was a game changer for me, moved all my zigbee devices to HA and my hubitat is now gathering dust.BTW you can easily use both as the hubitat has a brigde app or whatever it's called to integrate devices from HA and the home remote app for android by Home Remote LLC supports both and many other devices too.
@peterrockell1527
@peterrockell1527 2 года назад
For HA on an SD card, make sure that it is of the V30 variety, that'll survive the abuse that HA will deliver to it, mines been running for over a year now without frying the SD card :-)
@leopold7562
@leopold7562 2 года назад
Shunting the recorder database off to another device (like a proper NAS that will handle MySQL or MariaDB will help with that, too. Massively
@Thompsonnumber4
@Thompsonnumber4 2 года назад
I solved the SD card issue (yes they do die eventually) by using two sd cards, a usb card holder and a cloning script called rpi_clone. It also solves the backup question and gives me a really easy way to roll back (swap two cards). I think this is mostly a fair comparison other than rpi and dongle price where you got ripped off. But HA is still a bit more suited to someone willing to put time into it and fix things.
@peterrockell1527
@peterrockell1527 2 года назад
@@Thompsonnumber4 Sounds like a good idea, better safe than sorry and all that :-)
@ruostee
@ruostee 2 года назад
Smartthings with edge drivers is mostly local too. Comminity have produced lots of working drivers already. You should definitely try it!
@JWW855
@JWW855 2 года назад
I'm gonna try to get over my ocd of having all my devices made by the same company for compatibility sake, and try Hubitat with different types of devices. Thanks again for another intuitive video that gives me the courage to try this!
@chrislarge8704
@chrislarge8704 2 года назад
Just over a year ago I got fed up with the "cloth-eared bint" (AKA Google) so did research on both these platforms. I plumped for Hubitat. The system has been completely reliable and I'm really pleased with it. The help & support from the on-line community is great, not to mention that Hubitat's staff are also actively involved in the forum. Whilst it will function completely locally, some linked systems (like Tado) still need an internet connection to work properly. If you're happy with having that internet connection then there are IFTTT, Alexa & Google integrations that will allow you to control pretty much anything. As for Tado - there's no need to pay for their automatic geofencing or "open window" functionality. With the addition of a bunch of cheap contact sensors on the windows Hubitat will do it!
@danc6464
@danc6464 2 года назад
Well thanks Paul I had to buy a Hubitat now. I have been on the Fence but but since I saw this video I pulled the trigger. I am mostly in the Emperors eco system too. I am going to use Homebridge to integrate to HomeKit. I appreciate all of your videos and look forward to Saturday mornings to laugh and be informed about something. Great work!
@chris_croft
@chris_croft 2 года назад
I do like a bit of home automation on a Saturday morning Paul👍
@theviperman3
@theviperman3 2 года назад
Great comparison video and very entertaining. Love the content. Cheers mate!!!
@rogerkant3696
@rogerkant3696 2 года назад
Went through an interaction process myself, started with HomeKit, then migrated to SmartThings to get more devices, found this was too limiting and the hub was running out of power for a full home automation and now am on HA on a Raspberry Pi. Still run HomeKit for cameras and some use of Siri, use the HomeKit integration into HA. Run some Wifi lights from Lifx as well as a Hue Hub, lights and sensors. HA manages it all and is controlled from a wall mounted Samsung tablet. Did not look at Habutat as by the time I got to HA I was delighted to find most of my devices were supported locally and HA recognized and had support for nearly everything in my setup. There is a bit of system maintenance to keep it all running but mainly it involves a few updates every month to the software. Loving Home Assistant.
@mesoed
@mesoed 2 года назад
Nice too see something on Hubitat. Hard to find a lot of people talking about it. Usually it's Home Assistant, Smart Things, HomeKit. Good to know it's still a viable alternative.
@cyberdude1010
@cyberdude1010 2 года назад
I have a house full of Insteon devices that quit working last month. It took me an hour to get everything back working on HA. I didn’t look at the Habitat to see if they supported it, but I’m happy.
@bryanjenks4991
@bryanjenks4991 2 года назад
@Paul there’s some community apps for Hubitat that I think are game changing: * webCoRE: open source rules engine originally created for SmartThings, ported to Hubitat. Works totally offline, more powerful than the built in rules, and easier than HA’s rules IMO. * HomeBridge provides a rock-solid HomeKit integration with most any device connected to Hubitat. * Hubitat Package Manager: community built tool for installing device drivers and apps and keeping them up to date (saves the copy and paste install process for most things) Adding those has made Hubitat an absolutely awesome hub for me. (Also I’ve been using a retired broadlink device driver. For whatever reason the dev took it down a while back, but the code can still be found on the internet and seems to work fine at least with the older devices) Been watching for years- really great content. Thanks for all you do!
@smitty9398
@smitty9398 2 года назад
I added in the community created drivers for my Kasa plugs. Works great, works local too.
@JoshuaWyde
@JoshuaWyde 2 месяца назад
There's a new driver written from scratch. Used it for months and it is great. Install with HPM.
@ytshotmaker
@ytshotmaker 2 года назад
Long time home assistant user here, it runs my house and I have been looking for an escape from its horrible constant maintenance demands for so long! I STILL have PTSD from trying to connect home assistant to alexa without a subscription a couple of years ago! It took me DAYS (that bit isn't hyperbole!)! And today the maintenance is just an absolute nightmare with the constant breaking changes. If I had a sworn enemy who wasn't incredibly tech-savvy, I'd convince them to go all in on home assistant. Without their own personal Dennis Nedry I'd give them months before their tech enabled home becomes a medieval hovel and they're sleeping on straw! The moment hubitat gets broadlink is the moment I switch. Thanks Paul!
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
Glad it's not just me! 🤣
@ytshotmaker
@ytshotmaker 2 года назад
@UCb46C2G3mpUGJ6e1nePY4eA This was really useful, thank you! That's it, if I find that link in their forums I'm buying one today! No more being scared of my lights or heating not working without hours of pain due to HA's ridiculous system breaking updates 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 2 года назад
Dennis Nedry / "Bloody Stupid" Johnson - separated at birth... Now, where did I put my dilophosaur. PS 16 hatchling cornsnakes are really fast.
@JoshuaWyde
@JoshuaWyde 2 месяца назад
There is a rock solid BroadLink plugin now. Super easy to install with the Hubitat Package Manager. I have 3 BroadLink RM4 Pros working with my c8.
@massivesaucer
@massivesaucer Год назад
Thank you. I understand now.
@JasonWho
@JasonWho 2 года назад
As an HA user from the very challenging start… fair video with the one exception of not even mentioning the HA Blue or (as I read below) Yellow devices with built in support for other protocols
@RockGaudreau
@RockGaudreau 2 года назад
I went with Home Assistant because I already run a full fledged pc as a server and just ran HA as a virtual machine. Added a sonoff/zigbee bridge with Tasmota and I have everything I need with minimal hardware cost.
@FPVMike
@FPVMike 2 года назад
great video paul. There is obviously a lot more to both of these solutions, but as a long time hubitat user, i can say the lack of integrations is the biggest downfall. The RM4 is by far the biggest and most annoying problem with hubitat. But there are also so many other things i can't get to work with hubitat that others have working in home assistant. I just dont have time to stuff around with home assistant.
@markandjennyhesketh7149
@markandjennyhesketh7149 2 года назад
I started out with Hubitat but didn't get very far. Now I have switched to Home Assistant I can at last make progress. Hubitat lives all alone un plugged in a drawer!!! I used a NUC for HA and along with the iOS and Mac apps for controlling it I can't imagine using Hubitat again.
@joerirotthier5409
@joerirotthier5409 2 года назад
I'm using both platforms. Started out with Hubitat, then went home assistant and am using them together. The reason for that is the Single point of failure. I'm adding more and more devices and become so reliant on those little boxes that I'm actually scared of the hubitat dying on me at some point in time. For home assistant, I'm not that scared cause I can have a new one installed and restored in under 2hours as a temporary instance on a computer, or another raspberry pi. I wouldn't know what to do if the hubitat dies... . So it's not all about functionality, more about outages for me. Love both platforms though.
@Drinkyoghurt
@Drinkyoghurt 2 года назад
One of the things that people should practice with home assistant is automatic backups that get uploaded to your Dropbox or google drive. My HA makes a backup at 3am and keeps 7 of those files locally, the rest gets sent to my Dropbox. And definitely agree with Hibbert on not using an SD card, that shit gave me a massive headache. It’s just so weird to see how expensive a Pi4 has gotten since I started. I think I paid €55 for a 4GB version pre-pandemic.
@asdkjh4370
@asdkjh4370 2 года назад
With all respect but promoting this "platform" is really like selling "snake oil" - countless security issues - within HA and with "integrations" not to mention HACKs, and when you addressing this with examples - "developers" banning you from official forum without warrning. There is also politicaly correct bias with community so if you not following current trends you will also get banned. Deveopers started even banning russian developers:)))) Which is just crazy. And last but no least - non existing stability which has long lasting tradition and it seems that it will never end. If you really thing that you want put your famili safety and security in such a "profesional" and "responsible" envirnoment then good luck. If you just want reliable system - stay away from this "dumpster fire" and chose commercial solution or even alternative because even free alternatives take security way more seriously. By installing this software there is very big risk that you will expose your smart home to the World. 87
@joerirotthier5409
@joerirotthier5409 2 года назад
@@asdkjh4370 You are right, and will stay right no matter how far in the future we go. If you are throwing in all sorts of IOT and an open source platform, any platform really, holes will turn up. It is therefore important to protect your diamonds and not your paperclips. I understand and accept the risk that such a platform brings. I'll segregate, keep my firewall as closed as humanly possible and monitor my networks thoroughly. It's all I can do really. That, or stop my home automation, and that is not going to happen. The risk is accepted.
@Max_Jua
@Max_Jua 2 года назад
I have hubitat and I am using broadlink. The community made a driver. It is not easy to use but it works
@hangin6602
@hangin6602 2 года назад
Another awesome video Paul - both informative and good for a laugh. Love your work! I’m using Sonoff gear for most of my devices, some Tuya and Tasmota, brought together with “She that shall not be named”. But the system is less than ideal, because often the devices and scenes in eWeLink seem to “go walkabout”, and come back to active duty at a time that suits them. The logical solution seems to be Home Assist, but I really don’t want a Yamlgotchi. Thanks for reminding me about Hubitat, I will try that out first, then include HA as a last resort. BTW, where was the HA hip-thrust?
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
I forgot to do it! 😮 Though at my age I'll need a new hip if I carry on. 🤣
@ugh635
@ugh635 2 года назад
I would say, as a professional techie, that it would depend on the SD card you use. I have it on an SD card for 2 years now. Although after watching this, starting from scratch I'd probably go with hubitat for start up costs. But I had 4 pi 3Bs floating around already so I'm using home assistant instead
@Walhor
@Walhor Год назад
could it also be because he has so many devices?
@dougtoombs9195
@dougtoombs9195 2 года назад
Hmmmm. If only I'd seen this about one week ago ... could have perhaps saved myself some future headache. Just got a standard RPI kit for building out a new HomeAssistant configuration. The new guidance is apparently to look for "Application Class 2" level SD cards which apparently handles small reads/writes better ... so hopefully that might make things last a bit longer for me. But thanks to you now I know ... I'll need to make backups of my HomeAssistant config just in case. Thanks, Paul Hibbert!
@scabbyjoe21
@scabbyjoe21 Год назад
I've got HA running in a VM on my NAS integrated with Hubitat to give Zigbee and Z Wave connections.
@tinasewell1604
@tinasewell1604 2 года назад
Love the info. I tried hubitat but struggled with set up and devices that were compatible at the time. Maybe my smart home IQ has improved since then and I should try it again.🤔
@amisakie
@amisakie 2 года назад
As a HA fanboy this is a pretty accurate comparison. HA does require a huge investment of time initially but ones you figure it out nothing compares. The other issue is finding a reliable setup that works. If you can get good reliable hardware (which is a crapshoot) it can make for a really terrible experience.
@asdkjh4370
@asdkjh4370 2 года назад
With all respect but promoting this "platform" is really like selling "snake oil" - countless security issues - within HA and with "integrations" not to mention HACKs, and when you addressing this with examples - "developers" banning you from official forum without warrning. There is also politicaly correct bias with community so if you not following current trends you will also get banned. Deveopers started even banning russian developers:)))) Which is just crazy. And last but no least - non existing stability which has long lasting tradition and it seems that it will never end. If you really thing that you want put your famili safety and security in such a "profesional" and "responsible" envirnoment then good luck. If you just want reliable system - stay away from this "dumpster fire" and chose commercial solution or even alternative because even free alternatives take security way more seriously. By installing this software there is very big risk that you will expose your smart home to the World. ;l
@matts1978
@matts1978 2 года назад
It was a good video, and more people should see it. Thank you for your hard work!
@SmartAndTidy
@SmartAndTidy 2 года назад
Hi Paul. Zerotier. It is magic. It runs as an Add On in Home Assistant, and there's an app on Android. Then your phone and HASS are on a "global area network" and you you don't need the fancy AWS stuff or the subscription. I also ZeroTier with Blue Iris that has painful security for off-LAN access. Because my BI machine is on 100%, I run HASS in a linux Virtual Machine using Hyper-V (easy setup in Windows) so I don't need a dedicated HASS Pi. Only downside is that Hyper-V doesn't pass-through USB, so I use a Sonoff Zibgee bridge (flashed with Tasmota) connected to my LAN. Very happy with this setup. Always happy to help!
@HonStuartK
@HonStuartK Год назад
Hubitat now supports Apple HomeKit. It would be nice if you could edit the video to put that banner at the place near the end of the video where you say Hubitat doesn’t support it. Also, the ease of use test is basically the set up. As you also mention, Home Assistant seems to require a lot more tinkering over the long run, so I would think that would be a tie, if not a win for Hubitat.
@1stevenreid
@1stevenreid 2 года назад
As someone who is just getting started with a smart home, these videos have helped me so much with making purchases. I've actually been looking at the hubitat vs home assistant choice. This helps a lot.
@PierreLeroy76620
@PierreLeroy76620 2 года назад
And did you choose one ? I'm in the same situation as you. I did go into the home assistant forum a bit and I was like : WTF IS ALL THIS ! I was expecting some tutoriels, or some gitbub integration but no I need a developper background to understand what they are doing xD. But hey when I will really did into it, it will probably make more sense to me
@1stevenreid
@1stevenreid 2 года назад
@@PierreLeroy76620 I'm leaning more toward Hubitat because I don't have a developer background.
@chrislarge8704
@chrislarge8704 2 года назад
As a Hubitat owner I'm a bit biased, but: I too don't have a developer background and I lurked around the forums before making a decision. The answers to most of my questions were already on the Hubitat forum. The community are genuinely helpful and of the mind-set that everyone was a Noob at some point. The fact that Hubitat's staff are actively involved in the forum is a huge bonus. It's a product that's constantly evolving & improving. Depending how far down the home automation rabbit hole you want to go, Hubitat can be really simple to deal with but is capable of insanely complex stuff.
@1stevenreid
@1stevenreid 2 года назад
@@chrislarge8704 I have just stuck my head in that rabbit hole, but I'm ready to dive. Currently, I have an Amazon speaker, a couple of light bulbs, and couple of plugs, and a million plans.
@PierreLeroy76620
@PierreLeroy76620 2 года назад
@@chrislarge8704 Still interesting to get you point of view ! One question, how do you handle detection and simple lightning ? The main reason i'm hesitant to go Hubitat is to spend money on the hub and found out to be limited to what i want to do. My plan is to put multiple presence detection so i can get a "vector" where people go. Using this vector i can predict what room to light or not and this i think it may required more "capacity" like Home Assitant Have.
@c-tech_
@c-tech_ 5 месяцев назад
Your videos strike an excellent balance, being both incredibly informative and delightfully humorous. One of my favorite channels.
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 5 месяцев назад
Thanks dude!!
@movingloz
@movingloz 2 года назад
Great info. Thanks 🙏.
@gavinmorgan8861
@gavinmorgan8861 2 года назад
I had Hubitat before moving to home assistant. Couldn’t do anywhere near as much on Hubitat as I can on home assistant because there wasn’t enough tutorials out there. Automations we’re harder to write. Couldn’t even get my hive to work with it. GUI wasnt as good as home assistant either. Not enough developers working on Hubitat is the problem. I’d never go back.
@reviewassistant6891
@reviewassistant6891 2 года назад
Hey man how do you get on with hive? My parents have it and I've given up with it, seems every 5 minjtes it wants me to confirm 2fa again I use Drayton wiser for my home and although it's more difficult to setup it works locally unlike hive Do you have 2fa issue?
@gavinmorgan8861
@gavinmorgan8861 2 года назад
@@reviewassistant6891 I’ve never had to do an authentication on it. Strange one
@nefariou5
@nefariou5 2 года назад
Yup. I also bought a hubitat (at Paul's recommendation a year or so back). It's pretty telling that he uses home assistant and not hubitat though. I too ended up unplugging it.
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
To be fair to Hubitat I only unplugged it to test Homey and never found the time to switch back, and I only now use Home Assistant because I made a video on it and haven't got time to move to or from any solution 😂 I don't recommend Homey though. Good solution, but I don't trust the people running it to keep it that way. I was actually happy using LOOOOOAAAAADS of different solutions and tieing them together with Alexa routines and simple voice control. Never had anything fail. Probably my most robust setup!
@TheVexinator
@TheVexinator 2 года назад
I run both - Hubitat handles all my zigbee pairings and HA handles my automations. I ran with just Hubitat for a year and agree that it's the best place to start. If you have a need for HA features, you can control your Hubitat from your HA.
@arkagl
@arkagl 2 года назад
I run both also
@guatagel2454
@guatagel2454 2 года назад
Thank you!
@tupid84
@tupid84 2 года назад
Love you stuff , keep up the awesomeness, peace all the way from dubai , UAE 🇦🇪
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 2 года назад
Thanks Paul. Happy Saturday!
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
Happy Saturday Ron!
@ecotts
@ecotts 2 года назад
Paul , have you tried a Sant-Sudo01 (Ewelink PCI X1 device (Under a tenner)) for your PC or server. You can bootup and shutdown your PC with it versus using a home plug which just cuts the power. Its useful if you have a machine which your might need access too when you're out and about and you don't want to leave it running 24/7, its also nice when you set your routine for returning home to find you PC is already booted up and ready to go the second you step foot in the house. The device shows in Ewelink like all other sonoff devices.
@HATipsByLarry
@HATipsByLarry 2 года назад
i use HA with MQTT intergration and a windows service called IOT Link. It shuts down the computer correctly instead of just cutting power to it like a smart plug would do. Then i do use a smart plug and set the bios on the computer to power on after power is restored. then i have a automation that can turn the computer on by powering it down while its already off then back on which will cause the pc to turn on and boot up.
@LarMorgan
@LarMorgan 2 года назад
Thanks.. as always, entertaining and useful. Your point on why to migrate from Alexa struck home. One point of confusion; how do you migrate from Alexa to Hubitat? Do you just delete the skills on Alexa? Can you still give voice commands to Alexa, or does switching mean no more Alexa? Thank you.
@kicker10bog
@kicker10bog 2 года назад
I've had Home Assistant on an SD card and working fine for well over a year. But at the house we're going to move into, I installed it on a VM and that works even better. Only cost so far has been a z-wave stick and a zigbee stick. You don't have to use a pi or dedicated machine for it.
@mosth8ed
@mosth8ed 2 года назад
This is a pretty great thing, too. Before I actually started using Home Assistant, to test it out I just loaded up the premade HomeAssistant image on to a VM on my laptop and ran it there. I actually ran it there for 6 months or so before I actually built a whole elaborate system and moved it to dedicated hardware..
@hof_prod
@hof_prod 2 года назад
on any modern hypervisor you should be able to pass USB Devices, through the VM.
@kicker10bog
@kicker10bog 2 года назад
@@hof_prod yeah, that is exactly what I'm doing. The zwave stick does occasionally stop being passed through after an update though, so I have to reboot the host system to make it work again.
@hof_prod
@hof_prod 2 года назад
@@kicker10bog well, thats bad.
@kicker10bog
@kicker10bog 2 года назад
@@hof_prod eh, it works. And rebooting the windows host doesn't hurt to do every so often. Not a big deal.
@markvk42
@markvk42 2 года назад
Hi Paul, another great video, thanks, i use Hubitat, i have 2 of them, i havnt found them to be 100% reliable by a long shot, but i do believe they are value for money and will with time and attention, prove to work You can actually control IR devices by integrating Global cache wifi2ir or ip2ir devices, ive use 6 of them around my house to good effect. I think that you can also integrate harmony hubs, but ive yet to try it. the only thing i havnt managed to get to work so far is RF, but i cant say that ive really tried to sort that out as i only have one device that uses it.
@Reject06
@Reject06 2 года назад
Would really enjoy seeing some more hubitat vids from your channel. I see a lot of home assistance creators but only a weirdo trickle of hubitat ones
@DallasHerrmann
@DallasHerrmann Год назад
Just spun up a Home Assistant install on an old laptop, and am currently running it in tandem with Hubitat
@darrylrichman
@darrylrichman 2 года назад
While I did convert the RPi 4 that I run Home Assistant (and other stuff) on to an SSD drive, the RPi 0W I use in my weather station project is running with an SD Card, and has been for at least a year, with no issues about SD Card corruption. Just a data point/anecdote. (My RPi 4 is also running Open Media Vault so it serves as a NAS, and MQTT to obtain information from the weather station, which Home Assistant also picks up and displays.)
@BrunoVoeten
@BrunoVoeten 2 года назад
I am using them both, pick the best of both worlds. However, I would prefere Hubitat supports more devices OR HA is less complicated. I import all devices not available in Hubitat from HA using Home Assistant Device Bridge. Works fine The community of Hubitat fits way more my needs.
@mikhailkovalev7762
@mikhailkovalev7762 2 года назад
You don't have to buy a Raspberry Pi just for running home assistant. I'm running my install on my (10 years) old computer (in a VM along with other stuff) which I already had, so in total my expenses for everything were about 17€ for the Sonoff ZigBee stick (and I had also successfully set up an Alexa skill by myself for free). Since it has a hard drive, I'm not worried about it dying or getting slow from having too much writes. And since it's (slow, but still) an x86 computer, I don't have to worry about possible performance issues either. I think old hardware is a great option for running Home Assistant which everyone is always forgetting about.
@HATipsByLarry
@HATipsByLarry 2 года назад
yep running mine on a older PC as well and its a lot faster then running it on a PI.
@MaxC.94
@MaxC.94 Год назад
thank you for this detailed comparison of hubitat and home assistant -- it's a comparison i specifically am looking into because my partner and i want to move away from cloud-based services asap (our smart home journey started with an echo dot and ring doorbell and zero knowledge of just how many options are out there for everything under the sun). this video along with the comments below have been extremely helpful in guiding my decision-making process because, even though i'm a very tech-savvy person and have been my whole life, i don't want to jump into the deep end when i don't even have many devices and i want something that is easy and not intimidating for when my partner has to interact with any of the process because she is not a tech person. so i think i'm going to start with hubitat and if my smart home expands and i start wanting that extra level home assistant provides, i'll move to/add in home assistant later. cheers!
@gamingz5245
@gamingz5245 2 года назад
You should try dwains' dashboard in home assistant, it auto configures a dashboard based on device areas/rooms and it looks really nice
@markholmes1158
@markholmes1158 2 года назад
Great video. Any idea what the range of Hubitat is? I currently have 2 ZigBee hubs to cover my home
@greetp
@greetp 2 года назад
Cheers Paul, excellent & interesting video! Still no HomeKit, sort of?
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
Its mentioned at the very end 😉
@magnussvensson5153
@magnussvensson5153 2 года назад
Wonderful video. I like hubitat, but my daily drive is domoticz for all automation. I love how the ui are on hubitat and how you can customize it. But I want a more robust language, I have a environment script for each room and scene script for movies and other occasions. It feels to messy with behavior for each thing. For my living room I have one script that sets the light and Kelvin depending on time, and lux in one script. I used to have my scenes in it too, but to make it easyer to manage so are they in a own script. Easy to overview how it is and to make changes in. Ha gives me nightmares trying to get that working. I would love to see your take on domoticz 😊 Thanks for all the good videos!
@orlandofreitas7266
@orlandofreitas7266 2 года назад
Great video! 👏👏👏
@svenmuller5950
@svenmuller5950 2 года назад
Damn, that was magical. At 6:20min I subsribed and liked the video and as u picked up the phone my doorbell rings ... but it was only my chimney sweeper :D
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣
@Theguitarguy972
@Theguitarguy972 2 года назад
I’ve actually got a Hubitat and homeassistant. I run zigbee/zwave through Hubitat and pass devices through to home assistant. Hubitat supports more devices which is nice.
@rocteur
@rocteur 2 года назад
Thanks very much Paul, a couple of weeks after I asked a similar question, here is the answer in detail. My fear with Hubitat now that every room in the house depends on it is, what happens if it dies in the arse ... I mean, hardware failure, should I buy one as backup or just pray it never will. I have a bunch of SBCs here in the house, but only one Hubitat box... Not sure.. GREAT video and hilarious as usual! Looking forward to seeing the wrap up of attacks and retaliation from your viewers on your Facebook page ;-)
@ChiefBroady
@ChiefBroady 2 года назад
I just installed home assistant in a VM on a Windows machine I already had running 24/7. For the zigbee and zwave connectivity I used my old samsung SmartThings hub. Agree on the subscription.
@thebigmcgoo3365
@thebigmcgoo3365 2 года назад
G'Day, just wanted to say thanks for all the inspiration and much savings of the financial type by testing all these gadgets (as these gadgets are very expensive her in OZ down under). In fact it was actually one of your vids that gave me the courage to try home assistant, and on that note, I hope I maybe able to inspire you...to run as fast as you can from those unreliable and costly raspberry pi's . I actually have several HA units set up over multiple locations and all of them run vey nicely (= quiet, reliable and cheap) on thin clients and micro pc's such as Dell Wyse 5070 and Lenovo M910q with a google/coral module for running frigate. These types of unit are cheap, plentiful and easily upgradable...so much better than the pi imo. Thanks again for all you work, has saved me a packet, not to mention the partner saving time factor.
@SpicyOliv
@SpicyOliv 2 года назад
You remind me every Saturday to update my Home Assistant.
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
For that I am truly sorry. 🤣
@Dazdigo
@Dazdigo 2 года назад
You can get a zwave adapter for around $20-30 if you get the Zooz option. It work great in home assistant.
@Sammo-w2y
@Sammo-w2y 2 года назад
love the balanced view of this one, enjoyed today's video and given it a thumbs up 😂😂😂
@mr.bianchirider8126
@mr.bianchirider8126 2 года назад
Thank you for this video. I am looking for a future exit plan in case Samsung decides to exit SmartThings. I have been wary of depending on 'free' cloud devices ever since I got burned by TCP Connect's cloud shutting down and being stuck with stuck with 15 (previously) smart light bulbs.
@evamuhlhause
@evamuhlhause 2 года назад
Really fascinating but it's most likely more than I will ever want to do. I've reluctantly decided to fund some yachts for Bezos and have added some other stuff that works with She who shall not be named. Love your voice here, always interesting information that's not from the US, two thumbs up. Maybe one of these days 🙂
@Joseph2290w
@Joseph2290w Год назад
Hey Paul! I love your videos! Your skits are brilliantly funny. My "motion not detected" for Shelly stopped working in Alexa. Me and Amazon cannot seem to figure it out so I tried to run Home Assistant. I bought both the Shelly motion sensor and Broadlink bulbs based on your videos but cannot seem to get either of them to work in HA. Broadlink for example uses Fastcon which is not supported by HA. How did you get Broadlink to work? Does using the Broadlink hub help with this? Thanks again for all the wonderful videos!
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert Год назад
Thanks dude! Sadly the bulbs aren't home assistant compatible I don't think. Not yet anyway! I've not tried to get Shelly's motion sensor in home assists t either so can't really help you there. Could be worth contacting Shelly to ask why its stopped working in Alexas routines!
@davidburris3500
@davidburris3500 9 месяцев назад
Call me crazy, but I'm using BOTH. I use Hubitat as my Zigbee/Z-Wave hub and Home Assistant for the dashboard(s) with Node Red for the automation logic. I'm using the PI 2 with an SSD. Like you, I started with HA on PI with an SD card and had the same results, it would die after a while with a corrupted SD card. With the Hubitat integration and Node Red, I opt to create a Node Red tab for each device I want to control. Then I drop the appropriate Hubitat devices onto the tab and create the logic for that device. When I started, configuring HA was a bit of a hassle, but now you can install an HAOS image onto an SSD. I'm not claiming my solution is for everyone, and cost-wise this includes BOTH rather than a choice. It meets my needs and has been working reliably for my needs.
@JoshUddin000
@JoshUddin000 2 года назад
Installed HA 2 months ago, enjoying the tinkering. Can you do one on energy monitoring options for HA?
@cheetoritos
@cheetoritos 2 года назад
Been drinking around in HA for a while and I definitely agree that while it's possible to get external network access and voice assistant access for free, it's definitely not easy...Good to know there is a good all-in-one alternative! I do have to complain that MSRP of most RPis can be found much cheaper. Though they are a bit hard to find at MSRP currently. And a good amount of people considering HA may very well already have a spare Pi (or NAS) lying around, which would be another advantage. In that case, you already have everything you need to get started save for a zwave/ZigBee dongle.
@PennyAfNorberg
@PennyAfNorberg 2 года назад
That case! I got the one for rpi 3 modded to rpi 4 but I would like a better one.
@matijasemenic3543
@matijasemenic3543 2 года назад
I use Node-Red inside HA to control Ale... with voice commands.
@MichaelToub
@MichaelToub 2 года назад
Well done !
@donaldhoudek2889
@donaldhoudek2889 2 года назад
Good Morning, You can eliminate the "Home Assistant" cloud subscription by adding a LOCAL VPN on a Pi and connecting to it when remote! Works GREAT!! Another GREAT video!!!!!
@neekster28
@neekster28 2 года назад
I am running HomeAssistant on my NAS, a device which I already had running. This made the hardware effectively free, and I'm not running it on a crummy SD card.
@wizdude
@wizdude 2 года назад
I'm also interested in how the remote cloud access for Hubitat will end up. Be aware that if you wish to remotely ADMINISTER your device, there is already a subscription fee for that. I think it's currently around USD$30/year. still cheaper than home assistant, but i wonder what will happen in the future. Home Assistant Yellow will be available at the end of the year. Cost will be around 150 pounds I believe but does not include Z-WAVE which is an optional module. Both Hubitat and HA offer great options for different people. I'm in the HA camp as I love to tinker and hack, but Hubitat does bring a good experience to the table for those who don't like to hack as much. Thanks again for another great video Paul! :-) :-)
@paulhibbert
@paulhibbert 2 года назад
I think the fee for remote admin is because a lot of professional installers were buying up Hubitats and setting them up for customers. If they want the convenience of remote setup then they pay Hubitat for that access. For home users it shouldn't make a difference because you'll usually be at home when you want to do any admin anyway. I know they charge for cloud backup, but that's fair seeing as there is a free local backup option anyway 😊
@Karyn451
@Karyn451 2 года назад
@@paulhibbert Your implication is that Hubitat have replaced a free service with a paid one to gain revenue from (or discourage) pro installers. It is still possible to do your own remote admin, the paid Hubitat service is just a simpler way for home users who may not have the tech skills to setup their own VPN etc..
@JenaGuitar
@JenaGuitar 2 года назад
I think that now you cannot switch on a device from outside your local network without setting up a vpn… am I wrong?
@ingejones8240
@ingejones8240 2 года назад
@@JenaGuitar You could do it via something like Google Home integration anyway - it should work exactly the same as it would if you were at home as that provides the cloud connection
@youngmug
@youngmug 2 года назад
@@JenaGuitar You should still be able to control devices remotely with Hubitat as long as you have them on a dashboard. Anything more complex via the admin web interface requires either the paid remote admin service or setting up a VPN.
@TheLebbs2001
@TheLebbs2001 2 года назад
Omg a grumpy I almost choked on my coffee from now on a plop is now a grumpy thanks Paul 😆
@erikjoha
@erikjoha Год назад
I tried Home Assistant when I was moving away from SmartThings. After tinkering with it for a while, I was unable to get all my z-wave devices to play nice with it - so I gave up, grabbed a hubitat, and boom, worked out of the box. Lack of Homekit support in hubitat isn't a big deal, I run homebridge for that, and that makes that integration a piece of cake. Home Assistant looked promising to me when i first started, and had it been able to make my z-wave network happy, I would have kept it - but i ran out of hours i wanted to dedicate to it - so I am glad I made the switch to hubitat (and I already had homebridge running from my smart things days, so moving that integration over was a piece of cake)
@johnward6516
@johnward6516 2 года назад
One thing I think that might have been missed in the setup is that Home Assistant can be installed on existing hardware such as PCs or in my case I have it running on a SAN. HOWEVER you still need the extra devices such as zigbee /rf/ir dongles or devices, so there is still a cost. I do like the idea that all of these are built into the hubitat. On a side note the subscription for HA Cloud seems a bit on the high side just to have a connection to Google and Amazon
@claytongreer7532
@claytongreer7532 2 года назад
I believe the HA cloud subscription is priced at a level to fund their business model for ongoing development and support. Given the history and current state of the industry, how a hub supports itself is another reasonable selection criteria. Wink? Smarthings?
@magnusgustavsson2230
@magnusgustavsson2230 Год назад
Considering to install HA on an old TV-box.
@ustoopia
@ustoopia Год назад
You are hilarious in all your video's. You're helping to maintain the cliché that people from the island are the funniest folks in the whole world. Good job sir.
@sanjivrpatel
@sanjivrpatel Год назад
Hi Paul, I love your geeky zany mix. Looking through your videos, the excellent Ajax Pro GU10 bulbs have 134 colours, but infinite if you use Hue hub. If I use the Hubitat, will I get infinite colours? Regards Sanjiv
@deepakvrao
@deepakvrao 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for another great video. I have a bunch of wifi switches made by a company in India which is not integrated with either of these. Would I be able to get them recognised by either in any way?
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