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I disagree, not just with the penalty argument but also with the "someone could've died" statement. 1. If caution was properly displayed, why did so many drivers not act accordingly? 2. We've seen MUCH worse crashes from GT3 cars that have not ended in serious injury or death.

@@Maverick9kthere are clear yellow flags shown and they don’t obey them. and the whole “we’ve seen much worse crashes before “ idea is pointless cause all it takes is a small impact at the wrong angle and it can cause serious injury

@@Maverick9k Under double yellows drivers would be getting out of the car, if the car cant move anymore due to damage so they wouldn't be strapped in or worse outside of the car. So yes someone could of died due to driver's incompetence.

@alvinsacic4762 These cars are much safer than the whole "at the right angle argument." The only time I can see drivers getting seriously hurt in these cars would be a direct impact on the drivers side. But again, if the caution was properly shown, why did SO many drivers not act accordingly?

@IIIErebusIII that has nothing to do with the crash. The driver/s would be getting out of the car a lot later after the crash after the WHOLE field has been slowed down and safety personnel are already at the car. That's still not a proper answer to my question about the caution being shown properly, though.

Totally the speed those last 6 cars came through was ridiculous you can see it was under double yellow very quickly

@damarfadlan9251 I wholeheartedly agree, in such instances, an immediate disqualification should be handed out before the cars even reach the pitlane. To hell with it, I wouldn't mind a mutliple-race-ban for these drivers. You either follow orders and slow down under double yellow or you have no place on that racetrack.

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This is largely down to drivers not being penalized for abusing yellow flags. Double yellow means you need to be prepared to stop. In reality its more or less, Lift off the throttle so it shows in the data, then back on it.

I think he was focused on the car in front and wanted to pull out of the slipstream. Still he definetely ignored the yellows.

@@Celciusify everyone forgets that "be prepared to stop" part. I was flagging a club race earlier this year, and the top 6 all went flying by a flipped car and nearly took out the safety vehicle. All six have had there licences revoked FOR THE REST OF 24! Unfortunately money talks and we are only going to see some long stop and hold penalties.

lifetime ban for porsche driver

There were no flags

Drivers don't respect yellow flags, because they know they won't be penalized, if they just lift the throttle slightly for a few seconds, so there is a visible "dip" in their data. We have had quite a few massive double yellow crashes through the years in all kind of racing series. Even Bianchi in F1, who was one of the fastest drivers through that double yellow zone. It's almost redundant to wave that second yellow flag because it barely has any real effect on the drivers over a single yellow flag. They should be enforced more heavily across all racing series, to make them much more respected.

There was nothing out when he drove in him

@@Histoe 0:47 0:57 ???

Gentlemen drivers...

​@@Histoelook at the top left, the digi flags are showing double yellows (2 flashing triangles)

They actually have a large light on their dash that should have flashed yellow as well.

@@kudos_ that’s what I was thinking too. To me, to those who didn’t slow down disobeying yellow flags, should be penalized. Could’ve resulted in very serious injuries.

Everyone ignored the yellow.

This series more pro am than actually pro series. Lol

Did need to see the yellows or be notified, just need to use your eyes to look ahead.

I remember marshalling at a Willhire 24 hour meeting. During the Honda CRX support race there were so many violations only one driver went home with a clean license. Some got points, some were suspended and one driver was chucked out of the championship for putting concrete in his bumper

​@@stephenbrown4211they rlly should make it clear here too that smth like this is unacceptable.

@@bioshock9998 would be nice if its not just a recommendation

@@bioshock9998 Rubbish! Yellows mean the same everywhere. Caution, NO overtaking, be prepared to stop. To ignore any of those rules expect a visit to the naughty step. What if marshals were on track dealing with the incident. Would you be salivating hoping they’d get hit?

@@bioshock9998 Wrong! Yellows mean Caution hazard ahead, slow down and be prepared to stop. No overtaking in the hazard zone. Bet you would love it if marshals were on track judging by you definition

When you treat a double yellow like it was a mild suggestion, you should not be driving on a professional level. FFS, I bet you can go to any random Go-Kart track and see the rules get applied more seriously than this.

You must be new to endurance racing. Yellow flags are more of a recommendation/its your own risk in endurance racing. They don’t have to follow them read the rulebook

@@bioshock9998double yellow is the opposite… it has the added meaning of “be prepared to stop if needed”

​@@kivori3438ok but is there a clear procedure? Is there an exact speed limit or button on the wheel? No. Racing drivers will not lift unless they absolutely HAVE to, so lifting there would have meant positions lost or time lost to your opponents that don't lift. Imo there should be a clear procedure and strict. Otherwise you can't expect racing drivers that fight for miliseconds per lap to lift at what is considered more of a recomandation than a fcy for example.

And nobody told that driver over radio that there is a car parking in the middle of the track there?

You must be new to endurance racing. Yellow flags are more of a recommendation/its your own risk in endurance racing. They don’t have to follow them read the rulebook. This is part of the sport

@@bioshock9998 you know absolutely nothing about motor racing do you.

​@@bioshock9998 Everyone in this thread missed the rule book including yourself. The yellow flag doesn't "suggest" anything. The yellow flag alerts you to a hazard ahead and the rule (endurance included) is that you cannot attack during a yellow. This doesn't mean you have to stop behind the crashed cars or slow down - it just means you stop racing (FIA releases a PDF for each race). Double flag just means the road is partially blocked which means it's extra important to be ready to get into single file. There is no rule being broken; there is no suggestion being ignored. The cars are all passing around the crashed cars and the one numb nuts tried to zig when he should have zagged. He was nowhere near attacking the car ahead.

These assholes can count themselves lucky they got their licenses back if you ask me. I'm all in for some hard racing, but when there's a crashed car on track, you slow down.

You must be new to endurance racing. Yellow flags are more of a recommendation/its your own risk in endurance racing. They don’t have to follow them read the rulebook

@@bioshock9998 it's more of an enforcement issue. Same with penalty points in F1. Because it would look so bad if the "best" drivers in the world got a race ban / suspension fpr stupidity...

@@bioshock9998 Feel free to cite a source on that one, cause I think that's bullshit. Yellow flags are to be respected, they are neither a recommendation nor a suggestion, they are to be respected unconditionally. Here's my source, in case you need it: FIA World Endurance Racing 2024 Regulations: "9.1.11 Applicable penalty Any infringement of the provisions of the International Sporting Code or of the present regulations concerning general discipline and safety will be liable to a sanction. [...] During the race, in case of: [...] non-observance of flags, [...] Penalty left to the Stewards’ discretion." So no, flags are not a "recommendation", they are something the drivers have to follow, else they are penalized.

@@h.a.9880 He's copy/pasting this 100% wrong response to everybody. The driver of the #61 car got a penalty for this incident due to not respecting yellow flags.

The way he said "So anyway..." was like an old topgear joke from Clarkson.

Pretty crappy announcing. If that doesn't get your attention I dont know what you're doing calling a race. The f'ing car even caught fire and the bloke is like lets move on. Same attitude as the drivers who sped by like amateurs.

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More and more every day man.

This is the problem with having too many rich people with nothing to do.

​@@stfu6397based yeezus

They simply want to keep the speed up through Eau Rouge to get the speed onto the straight to overtake those who lifted. Very very wrong. But thats what being entitled gets you I guess.

You must be new to endurance racing. Yellow flags are more of a recommendation/its your own risk in endurance racing. They don’t have to follow them read the rulebook

​@@bioshock9998 his comment said nothing about yellow flags

@@lax4life0607 He's just copy-pasting this on everything

When bronze driver (idk if it was an am, but it looked like one, otherwise can't explain the severe lack of understanding...how atoms can't vanish)

It's racing, this happens in racing from time to time lol

good point, that's really plausible

They could've still notified them through their radios.

Not the guy who hit the Ferrari, not that thats an excuse.

Some are amateur pay drivers.

it was a 24 hour race and can use if requried the pit lane for a tidy up

A yellow flag is not an unrelated question. I drive many 24h races in the sim and what you say is correct, apart from things on track. Brain fog, maybe - but I prefer to liken it to tunnel vision. But you are completely aware of everything on track, including flags

No It was not "brain fog". It was like, 8-9 o'clock iirc (race started at 4:30), second lap restarting from another SC. So no, everyone was in full focus trying to race and overtake.

Yeah, it was. You should get ACC, it soon becomes boring!

Not allowed on race track until given the ok by race control

I think the slowest corner of the track is the last chicane where the pit entrance is. But yes, that one is super slow too. That straight that leads up the hill thought is very-very fast, 5th gear in a GT3 easy

Split second decissions at 200 kmh should be reserved to pros only. Imo these pay drivers need to go asap. Also nothing would have happened if the yellows were respected.