This is so true!! I took only 6 discs to the course last weekend. Mostly putters and some mids. The mental clarity of not having choice overload was so refreshing. I spent more time enjoying the outdoors and the sun rather than carrying a load of discs to think about.
Yeah, my local course is short and super technical. Recently went out and did a putters only round. It changed my approach to a bunch of holes and I didn't feel all the pressure I usually put on myself.
I finally built a bag this year. For me personally, I tried to simplify it like this: one understable, one stable, and one overstable disc in each category from putter to driver. Ended up at about 16 discs plus my putting putters. Honestly I really only use 5 or 6 discs religiously. It is super nice having those extra discs to match the right shot selection at times though for sure
That’s about what I did, ended up with this: Distance Drivers: Raider, Enigma, Surge SS Fairway Drivers: Raptor, Escape, Assassin, F2, Stalker, Relay Midranges: Justice, Compass, Meteor Putters: Tactic, Atom, Magic, Judge, Berg I putt with the atoms
@@PoorGamer13 Nice! I ended with: Distance drivers: TD, CD3, PD, DD3, and a destroyer Fairways: Sidewinder, FD, FD2, Eagle X, and a firebird Mids: MD3, buzzz, and RocX3 Putters: star aviar, jk pro aviar, and P3X I put with hard exo links
Some tips for a beginner that wants to add three discs to beginner set? Started with Discmania Evolution. What would ad new options to try and would be throw techniques to these added disks? Or what would be 6 beginner discs to start over? Course I play has average length of 200 feet each. Lot of trees requiring curves left or right not so many straight corridors luckily.
@@JayDeeTee They have a great beginner set! If I started out all over again, I'd wish I had started with a discmania exo link for putting (thin profile compared to an aviar, feels better in the hand to me 🤷♂️), star aviar for a throwing putter, innova rocx3 or pig for overstable mid, discraft buzzz in esp or z plastic (I bag 3 now in different plastic and stability based on how they beat in, my go to for the majority of holes I play), discmania c-line FD or innova eagle for straight-overstsble driver, and a star innova sidewinder.
Yup. I like playing what I call "Starter Pack" rounds. I still have an Aviar, Shark, and Leopard DX set, and I have great rounds just throwing those 3 discs.
We call this the “Paradox of Choice” in the training and development world. I do this with my Maidens and Mavericks. Pretty much 90% of my throws these days.
That is how I am using Sharks, Shark 3 (have backups) and Impact (have backups). These are 90% of the shots at or under 200 feet. At 210 feet or further then I use others like my Stalker or my Valkyrie's/Dragon moving only to the Archon for controlled distance stuff and using the Dragon for the open shots in calm or tailwind.
So good. The other weekend someone brought out their rangefinder at an open shot of 160 ft, with no wind. It was like...what's the decision you're trying to make? Other than showing off you have a rangefinder....lol
I recently got back into dg and am definitely falling into the “gotta try em all” disc selecting pitfall. But my main problem is throwing consistently. Idk how the disc flies if I can’t replicate my throw over and over lol
Having started this year I can say that is true. I started playing in April and using only 3 disc, I got the Innova starter set with lighter disc, and just using those 3 helped me know how consistent my throws were.
I think the best thing to do is throw a very slight hyzer at about 80% power. That's usually the most repeatable angle, so you can see how each disc flies. From there, you really only need to deviate for shot shaping.
I'll be honest, I throw my nuke ss as my main driver. I'm embarrassed bc I know others easily flip them over but I only get a good turn and then nice fade at the end
Every hole has a disc! I have a couple of favorite disc I like to throw but I might only use them once maybe twice a round. Moral of the story, let the hole layout decide what disc you throw! Learn every disc in your bag!
My bro, I’ve stumbled onto the right path by purchasing a little hand eye bag that only holds a max of 10 discs (more like 6-8 comfortably) because I figured there’s no way as a month-beginner that I could possibly need the smorgasbord of discs I see in other peoples bags. I figure a few putters so I can get extra practice in on the course, a couple midrange, and a couple fairway drivers. My current selection is: The Judge, Colt (from my starter set), Mako3, River, Underworld, Sidewinder, Leopard (from my starter set), Diamond, Mamba. I’ll test this loadout and remove overlap as much as possible so that I always know which disc to reach for.
Eventually you realize choosing the slowest disc possible for the available shot is usually the right choice. Disc down! You might surprise yourself! 😉 200ft - Voodoo (best putter) 250ft - Zone (best short mid) 300ft - Buzzz (best long mid) 350ft - Wraith 400ft - Destroyer Those discs 9 times out of 10
Me after watching this video: Okay I should simplify my bag Also me after watching this video: orders 2 pigs and a fourth royal rage 2 for down the road.
Beginner Bag Building 101: Lesson 1: you are always building/renovating your bag. Lesson 2: build from slow speed discs first. Beginners, 200ft or less, stick with speed 4 or slower. This is the aspect of the game that will save you strokes. Lesson 3: have a disc for each shot shape needed. This can be the same or different molds... you might find a disc that works in many situations...it does not matter as long as you are comfortable throwing the disc. I bag 4 throwing putters of different molds and stability, one of them will get me to the basket. Play putters only rounds often. Lesson 4: go through the same process with mids and fairway drivers. Lesson 5: only use speed 10 or higher for specific shapes and scramble shots. Move to the high speed discs when you have good angle control, especially nose angle. Lesson 6: practice and become familiar with your discs then reassess your bag. You will find you rarely need to remove the slower discs (unless they are too beat in).
This is very true! I carry a very simple bag (in my eyes at least). I carry one mold as my driver: Lat64 Diamond but I have 5 of them and all fly different for me. I have two molds for mids: Lat64 Fuse (3) and Lat64 Claymore (2). I then have two molds for putters: Lat64 Spike (2) for throwing and I putt with Lat64 Rubies.
I recently did the same about a year ago. For backhands: 3 different molds of beasts, 2 leopard3s, 2 MDs, 3 avairs, for sidearms: 3 different levels of beat in destroyers, and 2 zones for forehand up shots. Made a big difference in confidence with grip and that sort of thing. Great video.
Great video -- I will carry a full bag (for the extra work -- this is exercise after all) but limit myself to just few throwers several rounds a month (Pilot, Reactor, Drift, and Hades, or example)
Would love to have you as a caddy i a competition but hey i Live i Finland (love your videos learned a lot though) (ovr stable, straight, understable) up to 32ft Sparta (Putting) up to 164ft Jokeri, Origo, Swan up to 196ft (Trojia), Midari, Stari up to 229ft Respecti, River, Underworld up to 262ft Talisman, Laseri, Flipperi 262 ft and up Slaidi, Legenda, Fasti,
I only bag like 7 molds. But 4 of them are utility discs. 3 Firebirds from very overstable to looong teebird with a nice finish. 1 Thunderbird, 1 pnf champ orc, and 1 PNF champ Leopard. My main molds are 2 Gazelles, 2 TLs, and 3 Teebirds. Plus my 3 putters of course. 1 star Proto AviarX3 for high winds drives, Star Aviar3 for low to no wind drives or upshots, and 11X KC Pro Aviar for putting only. With small hands I can't get a comfortable grip on any disc speed 11 or higher. So my highest speed disc is a orc which I only throw on tailwind holes. But 9/10 it's my teebird off the tee which I can get to about 350 but on a line. That's my only advantage on any course. I can throw ropes. But max out at around 360ish.
I’ve purchased a few putter molds in different plastics to find “the one.” Which ended up being Innova’s Whale. I now have 5 Whales… Other than that, I bag 4 star Destroyers in different weights for different levels of wind, two mids (a max weight champion Mako3 and a max weight champion Lion) which are also for different reasons, and absolutely no fairway drivers. And then there’s the black sheep of my discs, or rather, an albino dinosaur, my max big z Raptor which I exclusively use for hyzer spikes and literally nothing else. I perform way better now than when I had 10 different molds in my bag. The best advice I’ve found is exactly what you said. If you find a mold you love, try it in different weights and/or plastics.
I was thinking I wouldn't be able to make my yearly trip to Bham this year...drive there from Vegas in mid Nov stay thru mid Jan..but watching your videos you've got me FEEMING to come back and play... Guess I'll have to get back on the good side of my local family there haha.....
Robbie. YOU inspired me to get a Zeus! I have a bag of discs purely due to their stupid names that I am unable to throw properly. Thank you Axiom. awesome disc names: Insanity, Panic, Vanish and i love throwing my Tantrum. I challenge my friends to rounds using only discs with emotional states as disc names. or animal names, you can easily play a round just using discs with bird names... Robbie. yeah i throw the same 3 discs if i want reliable results... Don't kill my buzz man..... (adds BUZZZZ to cart)
Wide open shot... 200ft R-Pro Rhyno 250ft Ricky Pro Pig 🐖 300ft Lucid Truth can get there but I usually chuck a Leopard 3 or Eagle. Champion plastic for a little more stability, Star plastic flies a touch straighter.
Putters: 3 whales, Mids: 3 sharks, one caiman One Python Fairways: One eagle, One banshee DD: 1Firebird, 2 orcs, 1 boss, 1 heat, 1 shryke. I think my bag’s alright.
At 200' it's always zone. At 250' it's a buzzz. At 300 still most likely a buzzz. 350' is a stalker. I have 3 buzz 2 stalker and one zone. I do carry other disc's for specific shots but those are the ones I play the most. And my Malta. But my Paul Mcbeth esp buzzz is my most thrown disc. And she is a beast excuse the pun... I have run chains so many times with that disc but still haven't rung one up with it YET.
I found a disk selection trick that works for me... I have a cheap bag (A 90's $10 Coke promo soft thing)... andI have 14 disks and basically play 1 course (Island Bay Golf Course Wellington NZ... It's the side of a hill). What I found was if I use a disk, then place it at the back of the bag, Top side out, no that it matters... I would end up with 3-4 disks at the front of the bag that never moved.... They now sit on a shelf and I have 10 that all get used at least once on the course (Including an RPM so over stable I can throw it near Anhizer vertical before it stays anhyzer instead of flat of a hard fade... great for a forest section that is more tree than gap). I feel bad that my Jade is sitting at home... For me, Jades are a disk that just fly in a nice S and land just left of aim... every time... and seem to auto correct for my mistakes, not going too far astray unless I release in the wrong direction but There's no need for that on this course... there's no straight clear flat basket. I've now managed my 1st hole in one, which was on possibly my 1st 1 under par... and I have birdied the whole (only 10) course... If only I can do that on one round I'll be set !. Another interesting thing I have found.... Try wrong disks on tricky holes... I challenged my friend to a putter round... on a cross valley shot (hole 1) onto a 20 deg left hand down, trees on the right, ridge - he was using mids... With the putter he got his 2nd hole in one and has been so consistent with the putter (a disk he would have never used from tee on that 250ft, slightly down hill, very windy shot) that it's now his go-to disk for hole 1. And if it isn't a hole in one... its a grippy 'near rubber' putter. It stops quick rather than floating down the slope.
I have 4 shrykes in my bag. My money G-star that is reaching the end of its life...its replacement...which is beating in nicely, a star...when I don't want as much turnover...and the Halo...when I have a head wind...and know my money g-star will just turn into a roller. Or...when I need a good hyzer shot with no flex....the Halo does just that in no wind conditions. 1 mold I throw well....different nuances, plastics, and stages of wear...that is what I picked up from the Pros...not the latest tour series Destroyer that Pro A throws 500+ feet.
I love my pigs..my " child " is a pink pig with a flat top..thing is a pin seeker..forehand touch ups..all day! Don't even hardly throw mids anymore..another great video robbie!!
The other big mistake is not just the os high speed discs or to much OS/building off a pro bag, but too much high speed discs or too heavy in weight for some discs. By this I mean players who have used one all around putter or two putters a putting putter and driving putter/slow midrange for 6 months to a year before making first bag. In my first bag of discs fastest disc I had was a 9 speed Valkyrie. Furthest discs now are my Star Archon at 170 grams for control distance, as it gets further then my Champion Destroyer's both with a dome to flat top middle but my lighter 167 gram one and the other due to sheer lightweight Dragon goes far but I have no clue where it is going. The Slowest non strictly putting putter is a Lighting number 2 Upshot in Prostyle at 166 grams, I will use the disc more for long straight approach, some longer putts with no wind as well as uphill/downhill putting. I will never get a disc faster then speed 12 in my bag due to how the rims do not fit my hand.
Need more plastic always need more plastic! Seriously I can play with 2 disc on most all holes. I grab 2 disc out of my bag every time I play a 9 speed jade and a deputy putter. For some reason I stuff my bag with no more room and have like 30 plus disc and feel like I need more room🤷♂️
Hey! Not sure if you will see this but I have an issue I keep running into. I can throw a vertex with a speed of 4 almost as far as I can throw a Archon with a speed of 11. I’m doing about 260ft to 290ft. The archon isn’t crashing left fast and has a good straight flight for most of its air time, but just doesn’t get that much further than I’d expect. Side note, I found your videos about 5 days ago and it’s already help me add consistency and a bit more distance to my throws! Keep up the good work.
I’m basically brand new to disc golf. I bought 4 discs to play my first round, with experienced help. On the course I found out I had no idea what to use or when, mostly. My friend I went with would help by telling me to use Fairway, mid range, etc. and so on. The results were horrible. I never knew what a disk was going to do or how it was going to fly. I would’ve been better off just taking my putter and playing the round and focusing on throwing properly. I still had fun however, I definitely would’ve preferred to know just get one desk and grow into all your desks.
I have six midranges. I use the heavier ones in windy conditions...and the lighter when calm. All are Innova. My go to would be the innova Mako 3....because it is straight and heavier Roc 3 is for the wind or if I need a big fade and is heavy. Stingray for flips. Shark came in starter pack. Compass for forehands...it is heavier. My overlap would be the Wombar 3.....that disc was recommended in one of Robbies videos. Not buying more midranges anytime soon. I agree somewhat..but .if you have different molds...you need to know why you have them and when to use them. For the flat 200 ft shot....the Mako 3.
Im new to discgolf. And I am trying to build a bag but my wiev is that i want to learn 1 disc at the time before buying a new one. My current setup is. 3x saint 2 are different plastic ( 1 is a back up) 1x claymore 2x Pure also different plastic one is more of a rubber type that I use for putting or approach when its wet on the ground. 1x Diamond for my forehand Don't know what to buy next but thinking of an really understable mid like pearl and an overstable one like the Anvil
I'm a beginner and I started out playing putter only with a disc you recommended for beginners. I lost it playing a wooded course and I am absolutely sure a vortex opened up and it is in an alternative universe... cuz I never found it. I replaced it with something similar and since then added a mid-range. I've played 10 rounds and can birdie with those 2 discs, which are straight flying discs. As soon as I learn how to make a driver go farther than the midrange, I'm done buying discs. 2 discs get the job done for me and I need a third that can go long. You are right, why have 5 discs that all do the same thing unless you just like collecting them.
While I get the point of the video, I don't agree with the concept of using mydiscbag to find out if you have overlapping discs in your bag. Flight ratings can give some idea of the discs flight, but is hardly ever accurate, and especially not across different discs from different manufacturers in different plastics. I've had a roadrunner that when new flew more stable than my wraith. I currently bag a halo tern and a pro beast, and according to mydiscbag, my tern is the less stable one, but take them out and actually throw them and the beast feels like a -5 turn disc, while the tern after some beating in is now pretty true to it's numbers... this repeats itself so many times, my FX-2 is far more overstable than my straight flying explorer, I have a pop-top wraith that dumps way harder left than my destroyer. I actually have 3 wraiths in different plastics, all with different flight. imo, you should only use the flight numbers to get some sort of idea of the disc you're getting to make it easier to find something that might fill the slot you want in your bag. But if you actually want to know how a disc really flies, then you have to throw it. Looking at a chart on mydiscbag won't tell you much at all... I mean imagine pro bags in mydiscbag lol 6 of the same mold, mydiscbag puts them all as equal, but because they all have different wear and tear and maybe plastics they can have vastly different flights...
I carry 26 discs at all time, but like tonight, I only used 9 of them to play a round with my club. 3 of them I only used once. 6 discs carried me to second place, because I was comfortable with those 6 discs and made good shots with them. A putter, 3 mids, a fairway, and a driver.
I have a cart that holds 12 comfortably in the main part, side pouches that hold 3 each, and a putter pouch that holds 2 so I have 20 total in my cart. (And about 35 more that aren't in the cart). I do tend to lean towards only about 6 to 8 discs out of the 20 but every disc has a purpose for a given situation. Sometimes that situation is "I don't care if I lose this disc in the water but if it goes over and I don't lose it... all the better".
I am pretty new to the game. I got a bad start by ordering a lot of higher speed discs, not realizing that they required better form, and a faster arm. I paired my bag down to almost all 5 speeds and under, with the exception of a river and underworld, as well as a tbird and Pegasus. I only throw the tbird and pegasus when I need something to throw into the wind and need it to go far, and I only throw the river and the underworld when there is now wind and I need it to go far... but anything else I will throw a mid range. I can get 250 feet out of my wombat3, and have only been playing 3 months... I actually added distance at first by throwing slower discs, and then applied what I learned from the form corrections to the 7 speeds in my bag. I throw 8 discs most often, and bag about ten discs that have really specific shot shapes that I need occasionally. I have built my bag in a way that allows me to throw straight and flat every time, and choose the disc that will fly the line I need it to fly, instead of worrying about if I should throw hyzer or anhyzer.
In addition to the mental part of too many discs, there is the physical part-- muscle memory. If you use one disc for forehand approach, you know every nuance of that disc and the exact angles and speed are committed to muscle memory so you execute the line perfectly every time. This extreme familiarity linked to muscle memory, may mean you can even use the same disc as conditions change because you know how to adjust. When you are using three different discs, you get confusion-- that link to muscle memory never happens.
This is my theory for golf too. You are allowed 14 clubs in the bag, but I play better when I haber only 7. It is easier to choose which club to hit. Plus it makes the bag much lighter which is better because I walk with it in my back…
This is so true. I switched to a smaller bag to take away extra choices. It has forced me to learn how to throw better instead of hoping a special disc would do the work for me. Can I still take some discs out of my bag? Yes. But now I have space to rotate discs in for seasoning and for specific holes when I game plan a tournament.
I've finally started only throwing a handful of discs everytime I go to a course now, and my shots have became way more predictable and have just gotten so much better with those disc
I started the more of same molds bag building myself. And I picked the ones I noticed I used more than others. So now its buying more discs and who is gonna be upset with buying more?
So my friends and I all have at least one bag full of discs...it’s funny because we always joke about how we only use a select few of those discs out of our whole selection.
Great video! I was, and I mean WAS an avid fisherman who hoard all the best lures, fishing rods/line and reels on the market. I have over 30k worth of fishing gears! Anyways, for the past year, I have been disc golfing like a mad man. I own over 130 disc and since my game has elevated so much due to fieldwork and your videos, I have a very balance bag now. It consist of a handful of drivers, 4 fairways, 4 mids and 5 putters. I remember when I first started out, I had 10 drivers, 1 fairways, 1 mid and 2 putters (big skip game) 😂 I have come a long way. Currently, I can throw 400+ ft forearm and 380+ ft backhand
It's so funny right before I watched this video, I've been thinking of it lately since I've been throwing innova halo lions, the domier ones are flipper than the flatter ones which I perfer, I use a c line md2 as my flippy disc, but thinking well if I'm throwing the flatter lion as my more stable disc, maybe I should swap my md2 for the domey lion.... now seeing literally few hours later your video pointing it out with different plastic and how a certain mold can change flight slightly might actually have me convinced on that.... or maybe I'll bag the domey lion and md2 knowing 1 will slightly comeback left while the other most likely won't
i can play any course in the world with my ontario rhyno, mac and cheese M4, sexton firebird, and dd3........ but i like having many discs and all companies so i can learn as many diff lines and discs as possible
A video ive always wanted to make or see made is to compare discs between multiple manufacturers that use the same flight numbers in all categories and plastic options. I haven't done so because that would get expensive quickly.
My bag consists of: Roach 1 Devil Hawk - 2 (approach discs, FH mostly) Marshal - controlled turn up to 300 ft Sensei - controlled straight drive up to 300 ft. Ghost - 1 understable mid Method - OS mid Leopard 3, Teebird, 2 firebird, 2 thunderbird, Rival, Roadrunner (roller disc up to 500 ft for low cielings) - all my fairway drivers for 280 to 330 ft controlled drives. OS outlaw, Force - 350 to 380 hard left and spike hyzers 2 Destroyers, Ballista pro, Enigma - 400 to 450 ft drives (Flex lines in open field)
