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Slovak uprising happened only in Western Slovakia, most of Slovaks fought on the side of the Revolution. You forget that too: Around 40% of the private soldiers in the Hungarian Revolutionary Volunteer Army consisted of ethnic minorities of the country.[5]
Fatherland? Only a fool can call the land Father. It's motherland. It's "szülőföld" = birthing place / anyaföld = female. U throw in the seeds and it takes care of them. By the way most of the Hungarian words have 2 meanings at least: szülő = parent the person who is giving birth = mother. Sun = father (Sol Iustitiae) = male, Moon = female (Hold = mirror of the truth = Holy Mary) also Hónap (Holdnap = 28 days which is also the cycle of a woman approx) Esztendő (year) = Istenidő (God's time) and there is much much more :D - 'cos it's a very ancient language.
Yes! And the many Poles who fought with us in 1848 are always in our hearts and we consider them Hungarian, in fact more Hungarian than even Hungarians because they gave their lives for this land even though some of them did not even speak our language. Greetings to Polish brothers from Hungary.
Thanks for a video about Hungarian history, and also for the attention for details! Keep it up! Not even in scholarly literature have I seen such a detailed description of troop movemnents; and the political contexts is also well briefed. You could check the pronunciation of Hungarian and Croatian names. :) The 51K vs 17K might be inflated, possibly you counted all personel (even Roth division) for Croatia and only the directly involved troops for Hungary. Although both sides retreated after the battle, politically it was a great victory for Hungary, as the revolution survived, and the military had more time to prepare. Still the the Hungarian Army day is celebrated on 29th of September as commemoration to this battle.
No, according to the best specialist of the 1848-49, Hermann Róbert, the Croatian troops which were near the battlefield were these: - 1. division led by Lieutenant General Karl Hartlieb with 14,108 soldiers and 12 cannons, - 2. division led by Major General Johann Kempen von Fichtenstamm with 15,389 soldiers and 12 cannons, - 3. division led by Major General Johann Schmidl with 20,961 soldiers and 36 cannons, This makes in total: 50,458[ soldiers and 60 cannons. Because of the fact that Hartlieb arrived too late, only the second and 3. divisions fought in the battle, with 36,350 soldiers and 48 cannons. But from the initial 17,516 soldiers and 46 cannons at their disposition, the Hungarians involved in the battle only 10,444 soldiers and 36 cannons. So it was more than 3 to 1 Croatian superiority among the troops which effectively participated in the battle. The troops of Major General Karl Roth of 9,000 soldiers and 12 cannons were far away, heading towards Székesfehérvár, but they never arrived. So the total number of the Croatian troops which attacked Hungary was around 59, 458 soldiers and 72 cannons. Hermann Róbert's article about the battle with the exact number of troops on both sides is this: Hermann, Róbert (2010), "A pákozdi csata. 1848 szeptember 29", Hadtörténelmi Közlemények 2014 (volume 127, nr. 2)
Awesome video. There are lots of good details about conflict beetwen our ban Jelačić and Hungarians. There are also many more details, but to fully cover history of Croatian and Hungarian relations in this period you would need an even bigger video than this. You said everything what is important. The only criticism I have is pronunciation of croatian names, but I understand its hard for many people. I can't wait to see more of this.
hungarian names are the same mispronunced in this video but who cares he doesnt have to speak every language in the world. Other thing is that Jellasics was the single person in that time period who could change the history if he allies with Hungary against the Habsburgs we could have been independent together....imagine if there were no WW1 and WW2 or the first WW1 could have been much more worse in an other time period, who know. There are a lot of small bits in the history that if that doesnt happen who knows where we could have been now.
@@KOVROL The problem is that the new Hungarian Parliament and Government dissolved the idea of supporting Croatia as a state and let them use their language. We showed the same disrespect towards Croats that the Hansburgs showed to us. THAT is why Jellasics had no intention to talk.
I'm so hyped for this series! I really, really wish you will gave the same kind of love to this series as you gave to the Frederick the Great one! 6:28 Formation of a *responsible* government. Hungary had a government prior too (headed by the Palatine), but it was not subject to scrutiny from the parliament and lacked designated ministries. Otherwise, your description of Hungary's status within the Habsburg Monarchy is more or less on point. I would only suggest not using the term Austrian Empire when referring to the entirety of the Habsburg Monarchy, since Hungary was legally and administratively a completely separate entity from Austria. In the same vein, I would also suggest not saying that the Austrian Emperor was the King of Hungary, instead I would suggest saying that the Habsburg Monarch was the Austrian Emperor and the King of Hungary at the same time. Hungary's relation to Croatia, Slavonia and Transylvania is a bit murky, but legally speaking all of them where "attached" or "partner" countries of Hungary. Transylvania was directly incorporated into Hungary Proper during the summer of 1848, but the rest retained this status. Lastly, I would also suggest not using the term Budapest, since Budapest didn't exist at the time. Well, technically you could say Budapest, but I would suggest spelling it "Buda-Pest" in the subtitles. Alternatively, you could say either "Buda and Pest", or "Pest-Buda" (afaik this last one is the most widely used term for the twin cities in this period). With all that being said, thank you so much for covering this conflict. I really hope you will do it justice!
It is interesting how low the casualtied were, considering that more than 60 000 men were involved. However best Croatian grenzer troops were in Italy at the time, majority of Jelachich troops were reserve 2nd line troops.
In this battle the Hungarians too had very low value troops. Like half of them were national guards and militias, many of them using scythes instead of riffles. We can say that the only professional forces were the Austrian units fighting on both sides. This is why they, did not understand what is happening, and felt caught in the middle, and tried to make ceise fire several times during the battle. They simply did not want to fight against those who some weeks earlier were their own comrades. After this battle Jelacic sent home his unprofessional troops, and was reinforced with more Austrian units, his troops becoming like half Croatian half Austrian, while the new Hungarian commander, Artúr Görgei sent home his unprofessional troops only after the battle of Schwechat, when they started routing after the first Austrian cannon balls hit them.
I think it's very possible that many purposefully did not shoot to kill. Which was actually extremely common amongst troops in modern warfare until recently.
Great. Very detailed work. As in most actual battles of this place and time they can be very confusing. You do an excellent job of presenting them. Not a easy process I'm sure. Thank you !!
Sándor Petőfi: National Song On your feet now, Hungary calls you! Now is the moment, nothing stalls you, Shall we be slaves or men set free That is the question, answer me! By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. Slaves we have been to this hour, Our forefathers who fell from power Fell free and lived as free men will, On land that was their own to till, By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. Whoever now his life begrudges Deserves his death with thieves and drudges, For setting his own worthless hide Above his country’s need and pride. By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. The sword shines brighter than the fetters It is the finery of our betters, Of slaves and fetters we grow bored. Leap to my side, ancestral sword. By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. Magyars, once more our name and story Shall match our ancestors’ in glory The centuries of shame and hurt Can now be washed away like dirt. By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear. And wheresoever we may perish Grandchildren those graves shall cherish Singing our praises in their prayers To thank us that our names are theirs. By all the gods of Hungary We hereby swear, That we the yoke of slavery No more shall wear.
I was waiting so long for you to cover the events of 1848! Thank you! Please keep up the good work, there are a lot more interesting battles in this conflict :)
Interesting video! Something that could have maybe interested viewers too: That the famous Radetzky march that gets played every year at the new years concert of the viennese philharmonics was composed by waltz king Johann Strauss in honour of Count Radetzky and his victory at Custoza. And that this Radetzky already was one of the main planners of the battle of nations at Leipzig against Napoleon.
Great Video!! I am doing a thesis on Hungarian Alexander Asboth who fought in the Hungarian Revolution and went on to serve in the AMerican Civil War. Asboth served as a Lt. Col. on Kossuth’s staff.
The voice actor's voice is so low at some points you barely recognize it from loud music. It's a constant feature of your latest videos and it's rather uncomfortable. Otherwise the content is great.
This is extraordinary! I've heard little of this conflict other than a generalization of Hungarians revolting but your video is a spectacle of embodiment Keep the great work
Funny thing about this revolution is that many of the Hungarian officers fled to foreign lands and helped other nations to fight their revolutions or taught them military tactics. For example they took part in the US civil war, in the unification of Italy, Crimean War... Just to name a few.
Extremely wonderfully explained of political backgrounds and that war ( hungrian revolution) wagged...( house 🏠 of history) channel you are a great one 👍🏻
Its quite funny how the war ended since we surrendered to the russians and not to the austrian this is really simbolic becouse we said we lost to the russians not the austrians
Wait wtf?? I thought the casualty figures would be in the thousands when you look at the size of the armies. How the hell did both armies only lose some 100 men?
0:17 Bozzai Pál poet, one of the young people of March. Literary history calls March Youths, in a broader sense, the persons younger than thirty who participated in the direct preparation of the 1848-49 revolution and war of independence, as well as in the events of March 15, 1848, the literary representatives of the radical revolutionary spirit, or in a narrower sense, Petőfi's circle of friends, the literary masses of the Hungarian countryside sympathetic to their goals, the young orators of the March Revolution. 2:14 There is a joke: The foreigner asks how the Austro-Hungarian monarchy is structured. The answer is very simple: The monarchy consists of the Hungarian kingdom and the Austrian empire. The Austrian Empire consists of the Grand duchy of Austria, the Kingdom of Bohemia and Galicia. The Kingdom of Hungary consists of the countries of the Holy Crown, i.e. the Kingdom of Hungary and the Kingdom of Croatia. 3:24 There are two dates for the beginning of the Hungarian reform era (one literary and one political). In 1825, Vörösmarty's epic The Conquest of the Carpathian Basin was published under the title Run of Zalán. And the national assembly of 1832-1836. At this national assembly, a law was passed that the official language of the laws should be Hungarian. There are two dates for the beginning of the Hungarian reform era (one literary and one political). In 1825, Vörösmarty's epic The Conquest of the Carpathian Basin was published under the title Run of Zalán. And the national assembly of 1832-1836. At this national assembly, a law was passed that the official language of the laws should be Hungarian. By the way, what sources do you work with?
My friend lives in Pakozd and I visited her often. This is a well-done video. Thank you. This describes is a similar pattern in history. In 1848 the people were hopeful for change, free press, fair opportunities, equal rights for all....The Empire, Vienna was like a cumbersome, slow moving, aircraft carrier and couldn't be fast and flexible enough....
Are you sure those casualty figures are correct? Those numbers were extremely low for such a large battle? The Croats especially, given that they were going up hill, i was expecting high casualties.
They are correct. Both armies consisted of mostly unorganized untrained peasants. The few regular troops on both sides didn’t want to fight eachother, given that they were comerades just a while ago in the Austrian army. This battle is only significant, because this was the first major battle of the revolution.
Somehow, this seemed to me to be the stupidest battle I've ever seen, totally devoid of any real tactics, at least on the Croatian side. On the other hand, I knew nothing about how the Hungarian revolution had any real battles to it, and then especially didn't know that different areas within the empire fought each other and in particular that the Croatians and Hungarians had fought battles against each other. Which is really interesting and good to learn.
No. From nobody. But wait till towards the second part of the series, when the Russians will step in supporting the Habsburgs against the Hungarians, and the war will become a little like Friedrich the Great's war against the world. Only that the Russians involved much more against Hungary in 1849, than against Friedrich.
Prussia was actually busy stopping liberal German uprisings in whole Germany and was also fighting a war against Denmark (which they lost). The Hungarians already performed better and were closer to independence than their Italian counterparts. Prussia may was Austria's rival when it came to domination in Germany, but what both hated in common was liberalism.
1:23 unaccurate to visualize Hungary without Transylvania at the time. technicly it wasn't part of the country, as the Austrians considered it as diferent province, but one of the main objectives of the Revolution was to unify Hungary with Transylvania again (as long as the Revolutionaries didn't dethroned the Habsburgs, cause after that it hardly mattered anymore). And Hungarians considerd it as one country.
Hi, could you please lower the music volume/increase the volume of your voice when speaking whilst music is playing please? The music volume was overpowering your voice. Good video 👍
Damn that pronunciation if Jelacic hurts my ears... I hope next part will cover Serbian Vojvodina and how both Austrians and Hungarians kept promising stuff to Serbs but in fact just lied. So everyone can understand why this shitty empire needed to go down.
Than also talk about the genocide the Serbs committed against the Hungarians, and why Damjanich said that he will kill every Serb man ,women and children in revenge, or how Kossuth in his proclamation promised no revenge but warned them . Or how the Romanian guerilla troops massacered villages, and wounded soldiers left on the battlefield. Or how Slovak guerilla troops massacered villages and nobility, like the family of Madách Imre . So with all due respect stfu Serb. If Hungary,Coatia,Bulgaria,Macedonia,Bosnia and Albania would pay you guys back for all the ethnic clensings you fuckers committed since 1848 and the Serb-Ottoman wars, there would be no Serbs left alive.
Thank you for covering this! Not only is it a revolution I knew nothing about, but it’s closer to a subject I’d like to know more about, and that is “what was Austria”. I tend only to hear of their defeats and the Hapsburg political games, and this is at the very least directly concerning the history of Austria, and no less part of the birth of the modern Hungary. Also, the Balkan region.
Being austrian, i have to say, even during school i only learned about austrian military defeats never about any won battle. (although learning is a bit much, it got mentioned) And it left me wondering: "how on earth does this country still exist, and how could the Habsburgs stay not just in power over austria, but the majority time of the HRE when all you ever hear is them loosing a battle. As for "political games" the major game i know of was to focus on marry their children off to other rulers to avoid wars and gain allies or territory. Their family motto could be translated to "others may wage wars, you lucky austria marry". btw.: WW1 and 2 were covered in school mainly by telling us "we started them, we are the bad ones, and our side commited the worse war crimes ever". No details on the wars themselves, just a focus on the last two parts. So all i know about WW1 and 2 i had to read up after school in actual books, articles, and by using YT videos of professional and hobby historians.
@@nirfz Russia...thats how they stayed in power. Unfortunatelly... Altho it has to be said that the Hungarian revolution was also an internal war between two royalist camps that viewed the forced abdication of Ferdinand I as a coup d' état and did not recognise the new emperor as legitimate. Hence why so many Austrians also fought on the Hungarian side.
@@jacky9590 The russians didn't help them since 1278... My wondering was not about the hungarian revolution, but during their whole time as rulers of austria and partially the HRE. The russians did help them during the hungarian revolution, correct, but i meant the over 600 years they were in power. What i meant is: Someone who constantly looses doesn't stay in power. But they did, so they probably didn't only loose.But the focus on the internet is on when they lost, so it could be that we get a tiny bit of a wrong picture.
04:41 Hungarian names are in reverse order. Family name (surname) first, then the name(s) chosen by the parents. F.e. Kossuth Lajos, Móga János, etc. In other words: Our first names are not first :- ) should you ever need any help with Hungarian names (people and places), I am glad to help.
Pretty detailed, only the conclusion is not clear - why they concluded a ceasefire, why Jelacic didn't renew the attack when he received the troops that were lagging behind, and what was his reasoning to withdraw.
Awesome!! First time I see our historical event in such documentary form! The title says part 1, thus I hope you cover the independence war in a series and this won't be the only episode. Such an important event in Europa's history.
Great video, although it's hardly a confused skirmish rather than a battle, this reflects the absence of the will to fight in the Croatian side and the poor tactical abilities of their leadership.
Well, the Croatians were those who attacked. It was not about the absence of will to fight, but rather the fact that both the Croatian and the Hungarian armies were formed by so-called indisciplined popular insurrectionists, militias, and volunteers, who did not know what is a battle. So they were brave until the first shoots started, then lost the will to fight immediately, and got panicked when the first enemy cannonballs started to hit them.
Sounds like the handling of the troops on both sides was rather more amature than professional. Also, why didn't the Ottomans attack? Historically they took every opportunity to attack the Hapsburgs.
It's really hard to manage this many troops, and thr Ottomans were way too weak to do anything, they were more busy with trying to keep their empire toghether at this point
Revolutions are always played off as a movement of the people. But probably around 95% or more are about some rich folks wanting more wealth for themselves, but they market it as a "peoples" movement. Great video again HoH
No, its just that any revolution that was sucessful or semi sucesfull had some noble at the head of it. Having a bunch of peasants rise up with pitchforks and no support almost always meant death for them. Having the funds to train them and arm them, as well as the knowledge to lead the peasants was a duty only a noble could do. So you dont know about the many peasant revolutions that just ended in slaughter, because they are local history.
Problem with Hungarian revolution was that Hungarians wanted independence for them selves but with Croatia subdued to Hungary. Croatia entered in personal union with Hungary back in 13 century. Jelacic wanted independence for Croatia/Slavonia but Hungarians refused. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Jelačić and this is more in detail Croatian version of what happened back then. hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Jelačić
croatia was only part of hungary on paper since 1526, hungarians had no power over croatia unlike habsburg, so Jellacic didnt fought for "independence" he was sucking up to the habsburgs
Hungarians were pushing Magyarazation by force. Kossuth mentioned Croats as one of the people's that were to be made Magyars. They tried to placate others eventually but it was too late.
@@matijabuljan3420 There was no magyarization laws before/in 1848-49 and hungary made the first laws in the world about minority laws that gave freedoms to minorities in 1849. "Magyarization which consisted of learning the hungarian language at a beginner level, meanwhile minorities studied everything else in their mother language only became a thing after the 1867 austro-hungarian compromise. There was 3 nations before ww1 that made minority freedom laws 1. Hungary, 2. Austria, 3. Belgium.
@@balentinus There was no Magyarization because there was no Hungarian nationalist government till then and Jelačić wouldn't allow it to be. Kossuth shoved his stance on "minorities in Hungary" many times before revolution. Croatian parliament formed and demanded authority over Croatian matters. Magyarazation as policy starts when Austria gives control of Croatia back to Hungary after formation of dual monarchy. Jelačić's idea of federal state was only way the state could have a future and it was neither in interest of Austria nor Hungarian nationalists.
I loved the video! If my opinion is of any use tho, I think you should try and animate each unit block individually instead of groups of four (tho it's not essential and I understand animation is quite difficult, your work is great btw) and imo, having the units wobble a little while in melee combat was a really cool thing you did in the older videos! (Many people don't add that detail and it makes everything so much more smooth)
Thank you for the video, but allow me a couple of comments: It was strange to hear that the outcome of the battle was in doubt, because after the battle, Jelasic fled to Vienna and left the country, and his auxiliaries and about 8,000 people were surrounded by the Hungarians at Ozora a few days later and the Croats laid down their arms. This was a clear Croatian defeat, Jelesic fled to Vienna, while he originally wanted to go to Budapest (or Pest-Buda). By the way, Pákozd really wasn't a big battle, and this was mostly due to the cowardice of Jelasic and the Croats, who, despite being twice as strong, fled the country instead. After that, the war lasted for more than a year with much bloodier battles, and I hope the makers will work on them in such detail, in which case there will be about 20 more episodes of the series. The brave fighters of the Hungarian War of Independence deserve that others also know their story, and that the story of the war should not only be known in the Carpathian Basin. Thank you.
After the battle, which it self was barely more then a exchange of fire, their was a 3 day truce. In the evening after the battle Hungarians orderd a general retreat and in the darkness, mistakenly fired upon one anouther. Anyway, Jelačić retreated because he feared an anti-Austrian populace to the south woud revolt, so his army woud be encircled so he marches northwest to establish communication with Vienna, while the Hungarians didn’t persue the marching army with their cavalry. Considering the casuelties numbered less then 100 in a battle of over 60,000 this was less of a military victory and more of a moral one
@@HoH Thank you for asking. Don't get me wrong, your content is brilliant! The subject however does not appeal to me. We all have our preferences, I would prefer something about the War of the Spanish Succession for instance... Keep up the good work!
