Exactly! With MM spec + Dark ranger and all the dot dmg increase on both side I finally can make the old wrath build with black arrow, explosive shot, stings and decent aoe build I enjoyed the most. 🚀
The chance for Wind Arrows to proc from Rapid Fire needs to be increased to 15-25% and the number of Wind Arrows generated from 1 to 2. In some gameplay I've seen of other hunters, even in high target situations utilizing Rapid Fire Barrage, Wind Arrows only proc'd once or twice, or not at all which feels really bad for getting to Wailing Arrow since it puts a lot of weight on Aimed Shot as a primary generator of Wind Arrows.
The talent that makes Intimidate cast without a pet works for all 3 classes and is basically a instant snapshot, that way your pet wont run through the room.
You read the intim stun talent wrong. You CAN now use it without a pet.. but the secondary effect applies to all specs. Which makes it a buff for markmanship and the other two specs. It doesn't say you have to dismiss your pet for it to aoe stun
The survival mastery 100% boost is only for the defensive % and the 6% is with the buff and doesn't scale with mastery... it's just a flat 3% and 6% within 25 yards of your pet
Lone wolf could just passively give bloodlust as an option and that intimidation talent shit could even have roar of sacrifice be useable (the drawback could be with lonewolf you cant use it if your cc'd)
Well I only tried the MM hunter and tbh, it just feels better to play it. The old Talent tree was just a mess. I mean You have to get Volley for optimal single target dps... and the improved intimidation is nice and all buuut not needed since I will now just keep my pet on all the time....
Glad the focus for hunters was more on defensives rather than their dps finally. But does it not seem redundant that the feign death talent removes two things that are already removed by mending bandage? Good talent for bm and mm but I guess it opens up a third honour talent for sv.
Don't go wailing arrow it's rubbish, stack all into mastery, open with death chackram, rapid fire, pop trueshot, aimed shot rapidfire plus arcane procs, you shouldn't run out of focus unless the game drags on. Surviving is a PITA but doable.
I dropped my Hunter main for Evoker 1 patch ago, because I hated Hunter survivability. After testing this on beta, I will be going back to my Hunter 😅 The changes are incredible 🎉
I'm happy for survival hunters, I really am. But, my little Enhancement Shaman is crying big Tauren tears wishing he had something other than self healing to survive things.
@@The86Ripper yep, tournaments full of hunters. Kasu on eu and Yoske occasionally on us. Now compare it to rog/mag/dh+random caster teams, mr low tier expert
@@vadyazmey Do you really think the average wow player, let alone the average hunter really cares about high end raiding, m+, parses and all this mumbo jumbo? People just want a class that works and they have fun with. Do you really wanna know what bm hunter misses? Burst. If they ever give us that we will be by far the most complete class in the game by a landslide.
Really excited to play PHDK with my hunter and priest friend, this looks really promising! San'Layn DK and Pack Leader Surv is going to be such a disgustingly tanky rot comp with so much CC, alternatively you could play Rider unholy and Pack leader BM for the ultimate screen clutter
While I'm vocally disappointed in the Pack Leader tree, the new changes are pretty nuts. Bursting shot doesn't dr with exp trap which could be a lot of fun 🤣 the self healing is looking to be one of the stronger aspects (lol) of the class which is gonna be sick for PvP!
My main is a bm hunter. And every time a new expansion comes, I decide to change my main and then this comes out to ruin my decision........why God why?!!!?!!?!?
The vsa from mastery is a flat 6% dr, it isn’t scaling with gear Only the dmg portion Idk if that’s intended or a bug The stun without a pet is also adding an AOE stun to intimidate so it’s not a “dead talent” The reset below hp% talent is also for scatter or bursting, not scatter and binding You sped through this too much lol You Need a nap man ❤
Hell yeah can we finally rework shamans … please. The entire sub is on fire with hero talent trees that don’t even synergize with the actual talents in the tree and some still aren’t even implemented yet.
This might just been an oversight by blizzard n something that hopeful get change in the beta but if you pick wailing arrow in the beta atm you are screwed when it comes to our burst dmg cause it has 0 synergy with Trueshot that reduce cost n make us cast aimed shot n rapid fire 50% faster then we get a slow wailing arrow we have to cast in between when we want to cast more quick n cheap aimed shot in that window also i will never see a use for the talent after readiness that start off by giving a slow wailing arrow when we use Trueshot n generate more wind arrow to have a another slow wailing arrow to screw the burst window up even more also I'm not impressed by blizzard refusal of giving us a simple BL MM can use without pet if they still want that Lone wolf talent to be a thing n even give us more talent in general hunter tree to make us feel even more bad when we have to use our pet to cast BL. Yes the reduced dmg from 10% to 5% on lone wolf might help with single target but will never get close to 5% more aoe dmg because pet as MM do no aoe dmg so it still does not fix the problem where we need to cast BL in dungeon but only fix a problem if there somehow no other BL caster in a raid. But all in all im happy for these hunter changes cause oh boi have we waited years for this
MM main here, nerf to lone wolf is completely pointless, I just have a macro to summon a pet cast lust then abandon it. These changes to MM are dogshit and in my opinion are a nerf to the class completely. Plus with the current tier 4 set not added into the tree our aoe is going to be horrible. Guess we’re stuck wearing dragonflight season 4 gear
I think I'm going to reroll survival hunter. My very first character ever was a Tauren hunter where I liked to melee shit to death and stack stamina. I feel as if this may be nostalgic.
This grenade and explosive nonsense is so fucking stupid thematically for a hunter. Like what the fuck is actually this? Holy shit. What happened to throwing spears and axes like they did in Warcraft 3?
Dude how could you not show us the new MM talent that lets you fire Multiple Rapid Fires at the same time on multiple targets?? That's what people were excited to see and you skipped it?
