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After having a successful build of a Hybrid Supercapacitor Car Battery on my 2013 Kia soul for over 6 years so far, It's time for me to build another unit for my wife's 2014 Kia soul.
IOXUS 12V Group 31 Smart Power Bluetooth Car Audio Ultra Capacitor:
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@mkssnwbrd
@mkssnwbrd 2 месяца назад
I think capacitors are the future of EVs and battery replacement in general. I'm excited to see people using them this way.
@jumpAmonkey
@jumpAmonkey 3 месяца назад
Gotta love it when Jethro starts tinkering. Even better when they start binding things together with tape.
@RaymondLohengrin
@RaymondLohengrin 2 месяца назад
Years ago (about seven years ago) I installed a military grade Maxwell Super Cap pack on my Suzuki Vitara 2.0. I was able to run it all over town for a month using just the super cap with no batteries. I had a booster with me just in case but the super cap could maintain its charge over night and could start the car the next morning. This was just a test so I had to be very careful not to leave the radio on or anything that could drain the caps! I then added an RC small battery to keep it charged and later a small 12 volts dry cell alarm battery. I am still running this super cap and just I just drove today over sixty miles. I purchased a second cap bank but is a cheaper brand and it drains really fast on its own so I have used it for years on my lawnmower, I just jump it, do the work and I don't have to keep buying batteries every summer!
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 8 месяцев назад
Don't use electrical tape on that positive jumper - use Rubber Tape! The package will say 'self fusing silicone' or 'self vulcanizing', and it's Not Sticky - except to itself. Much better insulation and it'll take more abuse than most electrical tape. Heat will eventually make regular electrical tape brittle and destroy the adhesive.
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome 4 месяца назад
Yep they have my favorite one at Walmart its got a blue backing that peals off and its nice and thick and melts together and makes a nice solid rubber cover to whatever you wrap it in
@ericcaldwell3584
@ericcaldwell3584 5 месяцев назад
Looking forward to seeing the updates on this project! Thank you for the tour and the info!!
@jamess1787
@jamess1787 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the update 😁. I need to do this for my cars... Eventually.
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 6 месяцев назад
Duuuude! Pretty much a drop in ready to rock and roll setup! I would bet it would be able to crank even V6's without issue! Payday...I'm going for it! Thanks for this man! Keep em coming!!!!
@CarAudioEnthusiasts
@CarAudioEnthusiasts Месяц назад
itll crank a semi truck with no issue, thats how theyre wired in a truck, the cap does ALL the starting
@CAR-AUDIO-PRO
@CAR-AUDIO-PRO Месяц назад
Not sure if you tried to open up the Ioxus, but if you didn't and to anyone else thinking of doing it. Don't do it. You will never get to capacitors. Under the grey case the capacitors are encased in plastic. If you look at the bottom of the case, you will see the holes where the case was filled with the plastic. It is impossible to break the plastic around the Caps.
@CryptoShaped
@CryptoShaped 8 месяцев назад
Great job, Headed your way now so you can replace all my batteries !!
@seewaage
@seewaage Месяц назад
Thanks for sharing this awesome project!
@beasyphone
@beasyphone 3 месяца назад
These sell for 1000$ amazon- 499, any audio website 399.... cool video nonetheless, I run 2 ioxus +a red top optima 950 on my hotrod. I really like the results paired with my 330a/16v @3k rpm. No injection or spark issues.Cruising with the stereo-sits at 14.6 happy-batteries=600$ (ish) total. Zero battery issues for the price of a single blue top optima
@DMinerzChannel
@DMinerzChannel 8 месяцев назад
Great job can't wait for you to help with my car ..Over here!!!🤣🤩🤩
@mr.18s73
@mr.18s73 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for video I wasn’t sure if cap was under hood safe do to heat? But I guess it’s safe especially for my application. My vehicle is for bass 😂 .. I have 2 super caps running together with a blue top agm under the hood and a 48ah headways lithium bank in the back close to my amps . But I’m getting rid of the blue agm and replacing it with a ioxus super cap and just run the lithium bank in the bank that will power all three super caps .. I’m going to run 6- 12s subwoofers 😂 boom boom 😂
@yougod7253
@yougod7253 5 месяцев назад
Brilliant idea I gonna try that.
@850CANE
@850CANE 4 месяца назад
I run two of these ultra caps with a 96 amp hour headway and it's phenomenal. 8K sub amp and I hold good voltage I stay around 14 volts​@@yougod7253
@thirtythree160
@thirtythree160 6 месяцев назад
Do you have a pico scope that would measure the currents going in and out of the battery and the capacitor? Be interesting to see what kind of currents and created at start up.
@SteveOfTheMountains
@SteveOfTheMountains 4 месяца назад
Love this. Would love to know more about this unit. Any good for car audio? What about solar?
@RedPandaMining
@RedPandaMining 8 месяцев назад
Dude car batteries cost so much! Went to costco for 12 year old toyota and it cost me $300ish usd… Mad Electron change all my batteries plz
@madelectronengineering
@madelectronengineering 8 месяцев назад
I'll get right on that, lol
@RedPandaMining
@RedPandaMining 8 месяцев назад
thanks lol@@madelectronengineering
@666Necropsy
@666Necropsy 8 месяцев назад
i had an AGM battery last me about 10 years. still had life in it when i traded it in. just got tired of servicing it.
@retromodernart4426
@retromodernart4426 6 месяцев назад
@@madelectronengineering Can this supercap type of setup be done on an E-Bike to extend the life of the E-bike battery? So that the supercaps are providing the power instead of the battery, resulting in less wear on the battery?
@xTinBenderX
@xTinBenderX 14 дней назад
@@retromodernart4426 yep look up electric bus Battery Supercapacitor
@user-ml3sz3mm5y
@user-ml3sz3mm5y 5 месяцев назад
That's cool, I'm thinking about getting a Chinese 16v100F assembly and sticking it in my car. But wouldn't it overheat in summer? These caps are usually rated up to 60 C, and their lifetime gets much lower as the temp rises. By orders of magnitude, in fact.
@arthur88888888888888
@arthur88888888888888 2 месяца назад
In my car i was having issues with the lead acid battery dying after 1 year because the engine bay was too hot. Tired of that i moved the battery to the truck rear bay and it worked fine. Installed some maxwell capacitors and everything goes nice now. I just don't recommend installing the ultracaps in the engine bay because of the high temperatures.
@quagmire94
@quagmire94 Месяц назад
.10 is alot for sleep mode, you definitely have a relay issue most cars draw .03 ~ ish mah thats probably why you are chewing through batteries id' check your Security relay on my jeep the alarm relay was on 24/7 even while started. so i just pulled that relay and i stopped having battery issues.
@kennith.
@kennith. 5 месяцев назад
I did like the temp solution since it was smaller and more compact and all the original car wires reached. Why did you stopped using that, was it because the capacitors were smaller? Could you not have just added 2 more rows of caps to make it the same height as the Li battery?
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome 4 месяца назад
Great video yiu got a sub from me. Im picking one of these up tomorrow hopfully it helps my 3k amp
@paulshull9247
@paulshull9247 3 месяца назад
Great video. Lots of good tips. Thank You n God Bless 👍
@nirbhaokhalsa4636
@nirbhaokhalsa4636 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the great info! Anyway these caps could be used to power an inverter for backup home power during a power blackout with or without a lifepo4 battery?
@RaymondLohengrin
@RaymondLohengrin 2 месяца назад
I have been using super caps for years now. Super Caps have very little storage milli amp, a 120 milli Amps (not even an amp capacity) can however start your car, they just deliver a tremendous punch of power but you will need an actual battery to keep whatever you want running for a while unless you have numerous super caps in parallel to build up storage capacity. To power your inverter a bank of Lifep04 batteries will be best and no need for a super cap.
@thirtythree160
@thirtythree160 6 месяцев назад
Have you ever heard of any device that will measure and record voltage and current for long periods of time? This device could watch for computers waking up or not sleeping.
@nirbhaokhalsa4636
@nirbhaokhalsa4636 5 месяцев назад
Thanks again. Where are the updates for this video? 👍
@Aridzonan13
@Aridzonan13 8 месяцев назад
Good job. Not, thrilled you need an app to enable the run mode.
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 6 месяцев назад
Yeah...if it becomes an issue...I'm sure he will gut the thing, and rework it to just use the supercaps and eliminate the bluetooth stuff
@ceedubbz777
@ceedubbz777 4 месяца назад
Do you have any issues with cold temperatures and the LiFePO4 battery shutting off?
@bhartley1024
@bhartley1024 8 месяцев назад
I've been thinking of making a system like yours, but I'm worried about the alternator overcharging the LiFePO4 and the BMS disconnecting it from the system, allowing the alternator output to spike when the battery load is removed. I guess this wouldn't be an issue if the supercap is always in-circuit, but I can't be sure of that.
@markmroz
@markmroz 6 месяцев назад
I would think that it should be okay as SLAs charge at a lower voltage then LiFePO4. You definitely need a resistor to limit the in/out current on the battery. I’m using a 60W halogen bulb as a current limiter because my resistors kept burning up.
@markmroz
@markmroz 6 месяцев назад
So I bought one of these UltraCaps to disassemble and use the caps for my own custom build. Well, I had to use a chisel and hammer to get the gray exterior casing off and found that the inside was completely injected with polypropylene; solid. I kept chiseling to try to get at the caps, but felt like I was nicking them too much, so I gave up. I guess I'll just have to use the UltraCap as is, or find a different method to disassemble.
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 6 месяцев назад
The same one he bought? Dang..seems like they don't want people to get at the supercaps...fooey...but at least they work
@markmroz
@markmroz 6 месяцев назад
@@haydenc2742 yes, the same one. It works absolutely amazing and the starter motor feels like it wants to spin the whole truck around. I installed it in my wife’s 2003 Land Rover Discovery. I ordered another one for my 2011 Land Rover LR4. I tried using a 0.1 ohm/100W resistor, but they kept burning up, so now I’m using a 55W halogen bulb as a current limiter and it works perfect.
@BassDad
@BassDad 3 месяца назад
I have one that went bad that I was thinking about doing this to. glad I ran up on this comment...
@markmroz
@markmroz 3 месяца назад
​@@BassDadThe one in my LR4 was causing it to throw codes like crazy, mostly related to transmission. I spoke with IOXUS and they told me that first gen of UltraCap had a boost/buck convertert that emitted high amounts of EMI. My guess is that this was interfering with the ECU, which is directly behind the battery. I purchased 6 bare IOXUS 3000F ultracaps ($30.53/ea) and bussed them in series and now everything works so good. Like Mad did with his previous build, I don't use any balancing, because the nominal voltage of the pack is 16.2V, and the charge curve is linear, so all the caps should stay safe. At some point I'd like to get at the capacitors inside the UltraCap module. I was thinking of trying to melt the plastic or use a wire brush wheel. I don't care about the electronics, just the capacitors themselves.
@BassDad
@BassDad 3 месяца назад
@@markmroz yeah, I was wanting to direct it on my channel. Hey where did you get those caps for $30?
@Brandon_Neil
@Brandon_Neil 4 месяца назад
Ready for an update
@manuelstarr3602
@manuelstarr3602 3 месяца назад
The little one you took out would have been fine, maybe slightly bigger caps.
@ceedubbz777
@ceedubbz777 4 месяца назад
Do you know what the jump start option does on the app? I just got an Ultracap and it came with zero instructions.
@RaymondLohengrin
@RaymondLohengrin 27 дней назад
I wonder what was the total capacity or amps of the super Cap module or battery?
@CaneBTC
@CaneBTC 8 месяцев назад
Interesting... my 2013 bmw eats batteries every 2 years as well. Not sure I could do this; there are computers involved requiring coding battery type and age as the charge varies as the battery ages.. or maybe it doesnt matter
@user-yk2dm9hu5l
@user-yk2dm9hu5l 2 месяца назад
This is what Im looking to do with my Etrike, except I want the LiFePO to charge the Supers and the Supers to provide the initial take off acceleration to ease the amp draw from the battery. If any one out there has real experience or knows where to send me, I would appreciate it.
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim 2 месяца назад
im going to try one of these.
@littlejln213
@littlejln213 5 месяцев назад
How is this thing doing? I am thinking about replacing my red top optima with one of these. My optima will not hold a charge anymore. It sat for a month in the freezing cold and now will not take a charge.
@rhurtadorh32
@rhurtadorh32 4 месяца назад
Wouldnt the heat hurt that capacitor?? All that engine heat🔥🔥🔥🔥
@flexairz
@flexairz 4 месяца назад
I am more worried about that tape...
@arthur88888888888888
@arthur88888888888888 2 месяца назад
Yeah. Capacitors like to work at low temperatures. The hood engine bay high temps wil make them last less.
@RW1LD
@RW1LD 8 месяцев назад
I would be cautious of that big orange resister on the left side... those things can get dang'd hot and melt stuff.
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 6 месяцев назад
It's there to eliminate/reduce the current flow in and out of the Lithium iron phosphate battery...it's job is to allow at a MAX 20A flow either direction...discharge or recharge...it shouldn't ever have enough current flow for sustained amount of time to get too hot.
@patrickcallahan2210
@patrickcallahan2210 20 дней назад
Still going strong?
@666Necropsy
@666Necropsy 8 месяцев назад
electrical tape long term is a bad idea. the glue and tape are going to make a mess once it degrades.
@ivanjakanov
@ivanjakanov 8 месяцев назад
i wonder if a thermal pad between the battery and cap bank would be adhesive enough to hold it, those things last longer than electrical tape, less vibrations than putting the battery directly on the capacitor bank. could still use some straps to make sure it doesn't move
@Hertzsogood219
@Hertzsogood219 18 дней назад
No way I would put one of those in my car. The Ioxus super capacitor banks were recalled because of they were draining AGM batteries and catching fire. Why do you think they are going for only $129 b-stock.
@markjonnet7885
@markjonnet7885 5 месяцев назад
I was looking at the older Hybrid Supercapacitor you posted years ago, you used Amperics 3.0V, 600 f capacitors they don't seem to exist now. Can you recommend a quality super capactor? I purchased a 2.7V 500F1Set(6pcs) 2.7V 500F 35x60MM Farad Capacitor Super Capacitor with Protection Board1Set(6pcs) 2.7V 500F 35x60MM Farad Capacitor Super Capacitor with Protection Board that was junk. Any info would greatly be appreciated, thank you
@GertvandenBerg
@GertvandenBerg 8 дней назад
I used Tecate group 3000F caps on my golf TDI
@thirtythree160
@thirtythree160 6 месяцев назад
Do you have any idea why the car eats batteries every 2 years? Is it the quality of the battery or is the battery over used excessively somehow? Do water pumps or cooling fans run after the car is shut off causing excessive drains on the battery?
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 6 месяцев назад
Lead acid batteries use lead paste in the plates in a grid...due to heat/vibration the batteries (ALL lead acid batteries) the plates will sufate and degrade and dissintegrate, the sludge falls to the bottom of the battery and ends up shorting out or loweing the CCA...this is why the much much higher dollar lead acid batteries use AGM (glass matting) to keep the substrate in the plates...but those too eventual sulfate up and wear out
@briantaylor6030
@briantaylor6030 Месяц назад
Dealership opens the hood... WTF!!! 😮
@arrich4605
@arrich4605 27 дней назад
secured w/ the electrical tape isn't a good idea.
@ShafaqIftikhar-pw9ld
@ShafaqIftikhar-pw9ld 8 месяцев назад
First lol
@fiftysix.5.6
@fiftysix.5.6 8 месяцев назад
🍜🍜🍜🍜🍜
@alpaknan2189
@alpaknan2189 Месяц назад
omg another linux user
@benoittheminerandgamer
@benoittheminerandgamer 8 месяцев назад
Complètement stupide.. Tu achètes pour des milliers de $$$ en mining et tu veux meme pas acheter une bonne batterie a 300$ pour ton auto.
@nirbhaokhalsa4636
@nirbhaokhalsa4636 5 месяцев назад
How are you addressing cold weather charging of the lifepo4 battery? Maybe, AGM would be better, at least in cold weather?
@ajedgar8299
@ajedgar8299 5 месяцев назад
I'm curious about the answer to this as well. I suspect since it never really discharges much the damage from cold weather charging is minimal. He has a similar setup in his car and one of his videos it is 8 deg F outside. :)
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