My wife and I bought a VW GTE Passat (plug-in) and we have filled it up 7 times in 1 year. We have a charger parking at our apartment complex so we basically only use gas when we go on long journeys. Along with great fuel economy we also get sports car features when we need it. Definitely the best car we have ever bought.
@@tuanas458 "Putting strain on the electric company"? LOL, seriously? That's not a thing. There's surplus power overnight, which is why the price drops during off-peak hours.
I agree with your dialog. We have a PHEV. We drive 100% electric except for occasional out of town trips. With our solar roof charging the car our operating costs are very low.
This information was very helpful. I have a short commute to work and do not drive much otherwise, except for occasional long road trips to visit family. It sounds like the plug-in hybrid is my best choice.
I have a Hyundai Sonota hybrid that was retail priced at about 25k. With sales promotions, I paid about 23k. I now have almost 90k miles on it. Other than normal maintenance costs, I have not yet spent any money on repairs. The brakes last much longer due to the regeneration feature of the hybrid. With gasoline prices escalating, I have saved tons of money and more than recovered my extra costs. It is quiet, comfortable, economical, reliable, and stylish. What more could you possibly ask from any vehicle?
I have a 2017 Sonata Hybrid as well and attest to the above. Never had to spend a dime other than regular oil change and tire rotation in the 8 years I’ve owned it. It runs around 40mpg for me.
Hybrids DO have the ability to run on only electricity, like the Ford Maverick, BUT you can't select when it switches over and because their battery is much smaller, it doesn't run electric-only for very long. Just thought I'd clear that up.
Under perfect conditions, I've managed a mile and a half on Ev mode in my hybrid honda. Not much to be sure but still is a mile and a half longer than conventional cars.
@@zl1David 2.75 miles in my Ford Fusion Hybrid very rare but mostly 1.5-2.5 miles and it runs in ev mode very short time on freeways I get 42.9 mpg haven't been to a gas station in 3 weeks
Nor can a normal (non plug in) hybrid go over 30mph without the engine kicking in. A plug-in hybrid however, can run at up to motorway/freeway speeds on battery power alone, and can undertake complete journeys of 30+ miles, without using any gas/petrol at all. A standard hybrid cannot do this.
I have the hybrid 2015 Lincoln MKZ . This car has 173,000 miles on it and still delivers 38.3 miles per gallon . Very dependable. Never seen tow truck . Still looks and drives fantastic. Love it !
Wow, did you have to replace the battery? I have a 2005 Honda Accord Hybrid and the battery went at about 100K miles and was a $3K fix, and I had to beg them to warranty it for 3 years. They only wanted to do 12 months. They insisted, don't worry, we're using a genuine Honda battery. It'll last 10 years. I said, well if you believe that so much, why not give me at least 3 years? They gave me the 3 years.
I've got the prius prime which is an electric plug in and hybrid. I go about 30 miles on an electric charge. I travel a total of 18 miles a day for work. I pull it in the garage and charge it for the next day. Because of this I can run to the mountain house and return using three gallons of gas. I go 300 miles for the weekend. I've gone 100.9 miles a gallon (my best). But my average gas mileage is 89 miles a gallon. I'm charged when I leave from home and then charge it when I get to the house. This is how I can do it. As for the week. I use zero gas. I fill up once a month if I'm traveling to the mountain house. It's a ten gallon tank and I can go up and back three times before even considering needing gas. Pretty great stuff.
It depends on where and how the car is going to be used. I live in Montana, and distance and cold weather tell me that a hybrid would be more useful. Not everyone lives in Metro areas or corridors.
I LOVE my Rav4 Prime! I am on my 9th week of no Gas top-up, I plug it in nearly everywhere I can. If I would have known how efficient and fun it is to own a Plug in Hybrid, I would have made the switch sooner!
Excellent video with lots of good advice. We bought a Prius Prime about a year ago and it has been an excellent choice for us. With our driving habits we average about 2.6 L/100km, which blows the 7.7 I got on the Camry out of the water. I was ready for a full EV, but the infrastructure around me is not. My province has a network of single stall 50 kW chargers on the biggest highways, which is just insufficient. So the PHEV was the best choice for us.
Of course every apartment building has a petrol pump for their tenants. 😁 So why are people expecting chargers? What we need are high power neighborhood charging stations where 100 km can be added in less than 5 minutes. In and out, just like fueling. What a concept!
@@fparent No but it isn't needed, a full tank of gas doesn't take long and you don't have to do it that often. Can't use a concept until it materializes.
@@fparent There used to be lots of discussion and info about the damage to batteries from charging too quickly. Now that it's being promoted as solution to range anxiety the subject has been closed.
Thanks for promoting these cars - especially the Plug-in Hybrid EVs (PHEV). I replaced a Toyota Avalon gas car with a PHEV (Honda Clarity) in 2019 and it was the best decision I have ever made in a vehicle purchase. Aside from the cost savings that you discuss, the Clarity provides the joy of a refined driving experience: high torque and quiet ride, and all-EV driving for 90% of my use (up to 50 miles a day which easily fits my commute and around-town use). I just plug it in at home to a normal 120V outlet overnight. And I never have to worry about finding a charger if I go farther afield. Better than an EV. No "range anxiety", and fast refill when on a trip !
I have a KIA NIRO PHEV, bought in december 2022. Great experience and I was lucky: with 8000 km on the teller the beauty with all the luxury features was direct available from the dealer in Assen, Holland. Every day I drive some 50 km's and therefore it is just the right choice for me. I can charge at home as well as in the neighbourhood. Thank you for this video!
I have the 2021 RAV4 XSE hybrid and love it. I just got the 2022 Lexus RX 450hL and love it! I switch cars every other day and I couldn’t be happier with my decisions.
We have Prius Prime and we love it. We average about 2L/100km with combined EV and HV mode. As someone commented: To say don’t buy one because the gas might go stale is just ludicrous. In our case a single charge is enough for two days of commuting. We still have one or two trips a week that kick in the gas engine.
Yes but if you don't do that you have to keep the gas engine running - and you're paying a lot for that prime and the batteries are very expensive. And the technology is even more expensive to fix. And you have to keep recycling that gas and filling up the tank. So you can't use the prime as an electric vehicle for the majority of the time.
Exactly. They're a better option than a turbo engine, they have great acceleration but you get less engine wear rather than more engine wear as well. I think the way they market them as just good for saving money is hurting their image.
I have a RAV4 hybrid on order since mid Aug. no word yet on when I’ll get it except not until 2022. I’m hoping for January. I’m in BC. And the plug in model is over a year! At one dealership salesman tried to tell me I should go with the gas only one because it would take years to realize a savings 😏 some will say anything to make a sale. Thank you for your honest info.
I live in Toronto. Ordered a RAV4 Hybrid, had it a month later, it is made in Cambridge Ontario. The Prime is shipped from Japan, Toyota is saying 6 months delivery, maybe
@@jerrykrueger3410 you’re lucky I ordered the limited model hybrid mid Aug. still waiting. I’m good to get a 2022 though. Love the new headlights, power passenger seat and lighted dials
Huge LIKE for taking a few seconds of time and respect to present the SI units as well. I hope more North American/UK channels learn from this. If more than half of the world needs to stop your video every few minutes and convert the numbers, that's not a good long-term strategy for your channel. Thanks.
Thanks for the clarity and detailed information you have provided in this video. Very helpful for understanding the differences and the salient variables of consideration for regular and plug-in hybrids and fully electric. ...Did purchase a KIA Niro Hybrid in December and we (especially my wife) really like it! One of only two then available on the dealer's lot but we got it for a fairly great price.
I have the Volvo S60 PHEV. It's fantastic. I've had it for almost 2 years (Jan 2022) and just put my 5th tank of gas into it last week. My lifetime average for the car is 73.4 miles per gallon. Well over 90% of my driving is just errands around town and taking the boy to school. So, I'm pure electric a lot. The range is only about 25 miles, but that's plenty for me.
Big vote for the plug-in hybrid! Great video. Also consider this… You can make five plug-in batteries in place of an all electric EV battery. Lithium, cobalt and nickel are in short supply. Therefore you can build five plugins for each pure EV. If a government really wants to impact gas usage, then target the commuters with a daily round trip under 50 miles that can run all electric and recharge at night. Since it’s a smaller battery it should take much less to charge. Also many companies offer free charging at work. Plug-in hybrid baby!!!
Exactly! Majority of people work in the Plug in's range. When you need longer range trips for weekends, you are good. So imagine everyone with a Plug in; virtually no emissions in a metropolitan, quite and clean. Multiply 5 days x52 (more or less) you got 260 days of "no cars driving". HUGE IMPACT. As he said, look at the math! For me in my scenario, a 90K luxury Plug in hybrid comes to the same cost of a 60K regular ICE after about 5-8 yrs of ownership! So you can actually "trade in" fuel cost for more luxury all the while doing your part in reducing emissions. Be smart, go Plug in.
Alternately you could buy a local runabout only EV to do, say, 100kms. when you want to do a longer trip you rent an ICE car. This would be even cheaper and affordable and you wouldn't be carting around an ICE engine that you'd only use 10-20% of the time.
I have run a BMW X3 hybrid for two years now. 20k miles and 12k of them electric, all charged at home. Electric so far works out at ~7.5p/mile. With the petrol mpg included, the average works out at over 60mpg. Not bad considering the car weighs 2 ton.
We own 2021 Escape PHEV. Use mostly within 50km radius. We use EV only ( unless we run out of juice, then gas automatically kicks in), currently getting 2.9l/100km. We charge at home with level 2. Ford gave us the charger because we had to wait about 12 months for delivery. It was well worth the wait. I don't miss the the gas pump at all. Range drops from about 53km to about 35km in subzero weather.
My 2012 Prius was totalled last week so I'm stuck with the task of finding a new car. I have been watching your videos and wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge and research. I'm still terrified by the process, but starting to feel a little better informed!
There are a ton of hybrid options available now...just not a lot of cars for sale. I recently bought a preowned Kia Niro and really love it. It really fills in the gap between the slightly cramped quarters of the Prius and the hybrid compact SUVs out there like the Escape and Rav4.
it's been 3 months since your comment so I'm assuming you bought something -- I'd love to hear what you ended up with. Just traded in my 2013 Chevy Cruze for a 2018 Honda Clarity PHEV and it's the nicest car I've ever owned... the Honda-sense can be a bit weird sometimes but I've done about 1500 miles since I bought it and put 6 gallons of gas in it.
@@mikiessj4 I bought a Kia Soul - hybrids were too expensive in this market, and I liked the safety features and roominess of the Soul. Also, I am short and feel much more comfortable in a car that sits higher. I do miss the fuel efficiency of my Prius, but I am happy with my choice.
Thanks for the great video. Myself, I went the full transition to an EV. I wanted to totally break away from the gas pumps. Note - I also kept my 21 year old Monte Carlo ICE vehicle to do odd small dirty jobs if needed - still runs good. My EV Range is about 250-270 miles on single charges, and it depends on driving habits and climate changes. My daily driving is at the most 15-20 miles around town. So i can go several days before I would need to charge up. There are other features on my EV that made me choose this type of vehicle. Not sure where gas prices are going for the future because they tend to fluctuate so much and depends on which State you live in. That said I went with my EV vehicle. i didn't research Hybrids very much and I sure they would work fine for many people. They are still dependent on needing gas though there are some Electric Power to help them get more mileage. If I hadn't gone for the full EV, I would choose the Hybrid Plugin so I could run mostly on the Electric Battery. Thanks and take care.
A fully EV vehicle makes senses for people in warmer climates ... however those are non starter in Canada where the temperature is sub zero for many months of the year. We all know what happens to batteries in cold weather so an hybrid approach is much more appropriate in our case.
I think the most important concept of a plug in is to minimise pollution in built up areas while addressing the ev problem with longer range. As some have said access to a charger and cost are factors if it is suitable for your cercomstances.
I've had the 2015 Prius hybrid, 2017 Chevy Bolt full electric (still own), and now a 2020 Hyundai Ioniq plug-in hybrid (PHEV). The PHEV is the best of both worlds. The electric range is 29 miles, my commute is only 16 miles round trip, so I rarely have to fill up. The range using gasoline is over 550 miles, so I never have range anxiety as I do with the Bolt, so I can make long trips without having to waste time for charging. The Ioniq costs about $23K brand new, and with the $4500 federal tax credit, it will cost me about $18.5K which is way less than a regular hybrid. Cost of electricity is 6.2 cents per kWh to charge at home, which is pennies a day. With the increase price of gas currently, a PHEV is the best choice.
I appreciate your input on this, I was wondering if I could ask...how are the repair costs. For example, the repair cost on a standard toyota corolla is rather cheap(er) and the parts are always readily available. So, for a PHEV, how do the repair costs fair, cause those are huge expenses to take into consideration as well, thank you.
I wish it had more electric capacity maybe 50 miles. I do a lot of running around some days so for me I would like to see a higher range on just electric
Thanks for the great presentation, gives me, clearly, the information needed in understanding the various concepts of the various hybrid functions. Thanks again RBM
Another video mentioned one disadvantage of the plug being that once you run out of electric power and until you power up again your car will have to drag along the heavy battery as a deadweight, reducing the MPG considerably.
That is a very good point that I never thought about. If you will only be driving short distances, plug in is great but if you commute the hybrid will be better.
Great video, I love my new 2021 Eclipse Cross VRX PHEV. I do 90% of my driving in EV mode which cost $3 per 100km when running in EV. With the price of fuel on the upwards trend $2.50 here in New Zealand per liter its going to save me a lot over the years.
@@vickwknand5435 the PHEV is a great balance and if you get the newer models with the 2.4 PHEV engine they can tow 1.5t. The new 2022 outlander might even tow more and has a larger EV battery to. The older models with the 2.0l engine are limited to 1t towing. Certainly saving me a lot on fuel and I can sneak out in the morning with out waking people up.
Excellent video! I have a 2020 Hyundai IONIQ Hybrid and love it. I’m getting 58 mpg in town and about 54 mpg on the highway. I still haven’t decided if I wanna go full electric ⚡️ yet.
Bought a Hybrid Ford Mondeo Estate 4 years ago. Delighted with it's performance, economy and capacity. We drive down to Southern Spain from UK with our 2 dogs a couple of times a year. In eco mode with the cruise control set at around 65 mph, we have reached almost 600 miles on a tank of petrol. That's almost right down through France where petrol is much more expensive than Spain. That's also with the aircon full on most of the way too. The tailgate is lower than most others we considered which helps when loading our dogs too.
I charged my 2017 Prius PHEV from a regular wall socket in my garage and never installed a charging point. It worked just fine so dont assume that the expense of installing a charging point will be necessary. I drive a Corolla Hybrid now - which is a very nice car - but I miss the 90MPG I was getting from the Prius...
I was weighing purchasing an ev, plug-in or traditional hybrid. I took evs off the list because I'd rather wait a couple of years when I'm ready to give up my second car. But I really started to think through how I would manage charging a plug in on a near daily basis since my home only has semi-urban street parking. It didn't help reading a study that a high percentage of plug-in owners actually do not charge regularly and rely to a great extent on the hybrid system anyway. And I could see that I would end up doing the same frankly, instead of sitting in parking lots waiting for my car to charge. So I purchased a Lexus es 300h with Toyota's tried and true system. I've made TWO round trips from dc to nyc (along with some local driving) on about ONE tank of gas, half the usual. You also eventually learn how to drive to keep the car in ev mode particularly in city driving. Its been absolutely great.
I had a 2017 Chevy Volt which us a plug-in hybrid (Gas & Electric). It advertised as charging to 55 miles, mine would always charge 60-63 miles. I owned it for 6 months and it still had the same gas from the dealer in it. I used battery power 98% of the time. I had a level 2 charger at home so it only took a few hours to charge. I rarely ever drive at night so even if I used a basic 15amp outlet in my garage and use the mobile charger that came with the car I could be full charged over night and ready to go the next morning. As I continue to look at new cars and still never see a car that a plug-in hybrid that has over a 50-55 mile charge. Chevy stop making the Volt in 2019 and which is still a great buy for a plug-in.
Good info. I bought a 2015 Hyundai Sonata plugin in 2022 with 50k miles. Most driving is around our small town, where gas prices are at $5 per gallon. I plug into the 115 V outlet outside my garage and schedule it to charge at night during off peak hours. My mpg is often over 100 unless I drive over 17 miles. Added bonus is low wear on engine and less maintenance. Brakes last longer. Sonata has lots of rear leg room, but the trunk is small. For long trips, I would want a rooftop carrier. I keep my Chrysler Town & Country with 260k miles on it for boat trailer and hauling. It is decidedly more comfortable than the Sonatas and we prefer it for long treks, but gas is cheaper everywhere else (north coast, California). I've never owned a car with a shorter turning radius than Sonata, except Miatas, and this car is plenty zippy. Perfect for retirement or short commute.
Plug-in is best for short trips around town. For longer trips a regular hybrid is better. Or if you park your car somewhere there’s no plug outlet at night, like an apartment.
with a plug in hybrid, you dont have to charge it if you dont want to..the gas engine recgharges it by itself. but if you use the ev mode only then yes only good for short trip. nut you can switch between ev mode and gas mode with the push of a button
Made the switch to a Niro SX Touring Hybrid almost 2 years ago, and my wife and I really like this feature packed car. I plan on buying a PHEV next time.
Thanks for the info. Would definitely need a regular hybrid if I get one. One way to a grocery store is 40 miles. And don't have ability to plug in anything at home.
Another vote in support of the RAV4 Prime. None were available near Chicago, but I was able to get one off the lot at a dealership in NY in September. The drive home plus a road trip to Colorado put the first 4,000 miles on mostly in hybrid mode. It's a heavy car, so my highway mileage was averaging from 30-45 MPG based on actual gas purchased. After settling in with a level 2 charger at my house, rarely driving more than 40 miles in a day, my last fillup showed I got 111 MPG. Obviously, I've had some electricity costs, but at $0.13/kWh, I'm spending much less than I would on gas. Plus the convenience of almost never stopping at a gas station. Plus I can still take road trips and drive over 300 miles after a 10 minute stop at the pump. A federal tax credit brought the net purchase price down closer to the hybrid-only model.
@@mingbihhsu1735 My (wanted) rav4 in June was 8k - 4 months later it went up to like 19k :( its NOT worth that much. Now I'm waiting for my car industry to get its head out of its .... 😄 🤣
I love my 2018 Hyundai Ioniq pih. I can charge at home and drive all over town in full electric mode but switch to hybrid when I hit the highway. I have no range anxiety issues.
I bought a Hyundai Santa Fe plug in last month, and I watched many of your videos to make the decision. It wasn’t cheap, but we got 4k from the government rebate, and I sold my Prius C hybrid for an excellent price. In the end, Comparing the car's features, the price of gas in Vancouver, the km we drive per week and every other SUV on the market, the Santa Fe was the right choice for us.
There are a few more potential benefits to a PHEV over a pure Hybrid. I believe most if not all PHEV's will have more robust electric motors than the hybrid version. I think that if you drive your PHEV as a hybrid (i.e. not plugging in to charge) the battery won't be charged as often and not as full so its decline will be a lot slower than the hybrid equivalent. Heat is the enemy of batteries. The battery size of a PHEV is more likely to require liquid cooling. That is a good thing. A Liquid cooled battery will last much longer and perform better in climate extremes. With a PHEV you can recover more energy than a hybrid on a long slow descent (if you are going freeway speed on the descent you still may not do much braking hence, less charging). e.g. The descent on the Grapevine or Pacheco Pass (152) did not result in much increase in the battery charge level. The descent on Highway 180 from Sequoia and Hwy 130 from Mt. Hamilton resulted in a substantial net charge. A benefit of my Ford CMAX Energi, is I can set it to EV Later and use the charge to increase my horse power for a steep climb. The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV has a feature that I wish other PHEV makes had. Nearly all cars have 115V, 150W AC Outlets that draw power from the 12V battery. The Outlook has a 115V 1,500W AC Outlet that draws the power from the big battery. When the big battery gets low, the car starts the engine to charge the battery. Think of having Lights for camping, bright lights for changing a tire on a dark night, Charging a couple laptops, powering lights in the house when power is out. Caveat - be sure to check power requirements of the device you wish to power. Some equipment needs several times the stated power to start the unit. A refrigerator for example can require several times its rated power to start its compressor.
I also have Cmax Energi and can confirm most of this. After some quick calculations about battery lifecycle costs (high $$/mile) I also always run in EV Later (hybrid) mode. Wish it would remember to start in that mode!! I'm getting 42 mpg in 70% rural highway, 30% small town. Plugin once or twice per month when battery gets down to 30%. Because it's a PHEV the car doesn't maintain 50% SOC like an HEV.
FYI, We own both a Toyota Rav4 Prime and a Rav 4 Hybrid, as these cars obviously have similarities Rav 4's, the difference's are night and day. The Prime will get an average of 60+- MPG when combined with the Battery as well the Engine can charge the battery and of course you can plug it in, expect 8-10 hour charge on your typical outlet. We don't have a level two/quick charger but haven't had the need and see no reason to pay the upcharge for one. As for MPG as above, if you travel local or commute your MPG can be neglegible as your can essentailly run electric all the time at least upwards of 50 miles+-, the car has several charging options it determines while in motion extending your range somewhat, as well Plug in at your destination. As for performance, the Prime is a sports car in disquise, it is very capable and very quick when operating in Hybrid/Electric, we're not talking Porsche handling by any means, but putting it in Sports Mode sure adds some sport to the equation. The ride is good, when in electric it is totaly silent, seats are firm, and adjustable, typical of Toyota's entry can be a head banger for taller folks. We paid 2500 over MSRP, but will recoup that plus 5K with rebates from the Goverment. The gas mileage alone makes this a no brainer with gas at 4.50 a gallon or more, we traded in a 2019 Ford Expedtion and have absolutly no regrets. As for the Hybrid, this is our kids car it's a 21 and after using for a few road trips got me hooked in the Rav4, getting anywhere from 35-40+ MPG in a SUV albeit a smaller one is still pretty impressive, like the prime it's a Rav4, the engine does it's thing keeps the battery charged like the Prime but your limited in electric range to about 10 or so miles and the engine charges the battery, no plug in option. With rebates the Prime if you can find one is almost a no brainer, the ride is superior, it's quicker, you lose no storage because of the bigger battery, all in all Toyota nailed this one, if they could extend the all electric to 150 miles or so with a engine this could be a perfect alternative to either a gas or all electric car.
I really enjoy your approach to content. Very useful and pragmatic information... Criminal though that you didn't mention Kia Niro Hybrid. Better combined legroom than a Rav 4, functional trunkspace, huge cabin on a small chassy. Ideal for families of up to 4. Expansive safety features & infotainment. I get 50 miles to gallon with a dual clutch transmission for those who don't care for a CVT... Also styling and experience doesn't shout at you you're in an electrified vehicle. It's a traditional experience that happens to save you at this pump.
Very informative. I can see folks with a plug-in Hybrid using so little gas that it goes stale in the fuel tank. It would be important to use it up or add fuel stabilizers.
Ford escape lets you choose at least 3 modes, electric only, gas and charge the battery, also gas only. They might have a gas and electric for more power option.
Purchased a new Toyota Camry Hybrid in 2007. Still running fine. We adhere to the regular servicing intervals. No battery issues. It will go a few km on battery alone if you are not aggressive with the "gas" pedal. Aggressive driving uses mostly gas engine.
The optimal design for most people is a plugin hybrid with limited battery-only range to keep battery costs down. For the driving habits of most people, an 80 mile range is plenty, and the combination of an electric motor and ICE motor allows both to be smaller while maintaining horsepower when used in combination.
seriously planning to purchase a crv hybrid in the next three months because i do a lot of stop an go driving for work! seems like it would be worth it in saving gas
No regret trading my Hyundai Sonata Turbo for Hyundai Ioniq hybrid in 2019. I spent around $300 every month for my Sonata Turbo, got an average 20-25mpg and I wasn't even drive that fast. With my Ioniq now, I got 50+mpg easily (my lowest was 52mpg) and spend around $40-50 a month as I got consistently 500+ miles per tank. Wish I got the plug-in version as I will saved even more money just from gas alone, but my circumstances back then weren't suitable for plug-in hybrid.
Thanks for sharing. I currently drive a 2011 Hyundai Sonata Turbo and with the current rebate I am actually considering making the same switch since my gas is around 300 a month atm. Its a bit ridiculous.
Great video! I just bought the 2022 Lexus NX 450h plug in and I love it! I didn’t really know the difference between a regular hybrid and a plug in, until this video!
Also keep in mind, electricity rates generally regulated and thus stable. Not the same with gasoline. Smart employers are beginning to provide Level 2 chargers for their employees as a perk.
Good Report, plugin hybrid, has no heater on electric, the engine starts when you turn on the heater, no winter defrost of windows while driving on electric, must consider for colder climate, and damp days to keep window clean? At least on the Hyundai.
Where I live it costs me $.08 per KWh to charge my RAV4 Prime, most I charge is usually 14 KWh. I am able to plug in at work as well and I have only filled my tank 4 times this calendar year so far. Have gone over 5200km on this ‘tank’ of fuel and went just over 3000km on each of my last two ‘tanks’ previous to this one.
@@MrJohnnyDistortion not that quickly. I do appreciate the concern though. I don’t mean this to be snarky in any way but I actually work at a refinery as a petroleum engineer so I’m pretty confident in how much time between fill ups I have.
@@MrJohnnyDistortion you won’t listen anyways so what’s the point? But gas is fine in a car for up to six to nine months, especially in fuel tanks that are designed to hold fuel. I wouldn’t recommend putting gas in a soda bottle in the sun for six months.
We bought a Tucson plug .My best distance so far has been 1543km on a 37 litre fill up. We do a lot of shorter distance drives so expect to save a lot.
I started with hybrids. I still remember my first test drive of a Prius c. The engine shut off at a red light, and I asked the salesman if the car died. He told me that hybrids shut off the engine when not needed to save on gas. And sure enough, the engine came back on after the light turned green and I started moving again. That idea really clicked with me, but it did take a while to get used to not hearing the engine revving every time I stepped on the gas or was at a red light. It also started getting me used to the idea of moving a car around without needing an engine running all the time. I got very good at coasting on my work commute, and would average about 60 mpg, and around 45 mpg in winter. That's when I started looking at plug-in hybrids. I ended up getting a 2017 Volt later. With my work commute of around 38 miles round trip, it easily handled my work commute entirely on electric, even in winter with heater usage and snow tires. And on longer trips, or if I just forgot to plug in the previous day, I could just run it on gas. But as I got used to the silence of driving electric, hearing the engine come on started to get kind of annoying, even if I was just filling up every few months. After about a year or so of not driving anywhere long distance, my Volt forced "FMM", or "Fuel Maintenance Mode" on me, where it forced the gas engine on to burn up the gas before it started to go bad. At that point I felt I was ready to go all electric. GM's decision to kill off their plug-in hybrids in favor of full electric, and then only having the Bolt for sale kind of turned me off from their EV offerings, much as I loved my Volt. I ended up getting a Tesla Model Y, and haven't looked back since, while my Volt went to a gentleman who was beginning his transition to using less gas as well. I'm happy to see that there are many other automakers making EV's now. Just a few years ago they were all screaming about how "Nobody wants electric cars!" Now they're all coming out with at least a plug-in hybrid, if not a full fledged EV. As for fueling costs, I spend about $40-60 to drive my EV's about 1000 miles a month. Calculate your mpg on your current vehicle to get a comparison. And if you have solar, you're also capable of generating at least some of your own power for your EV, which further reduces your dependence on gas stations.
Awesome write up. I am on my journey to at least a hybrid vehicle and i will be looking around starting this Friday. The issue that ive found when i visit a toyota dealership is there are no hybrid vehicles even available on the lot. I am not familiar with the reliability of chevy vehicles and so every car ive bought was a toyota. Now with the tesla, i was also thinking of going this route but i have heard insurance is substantially more expensive (?). Please let me know what your thoughts on or choices that i could check before i buy my next vehicle. I take my son to soccer practices regularly and soccer games on the weekend. Practices are about 5-10miles away and games could be 5-50+ miles of commute each way. Please me provide me with some of your insights. Thanks and god bless!
I felt that high demand this month. I looked everywhere to find a plug-in Prius prime and it was sold out EVERYWHERE. I finally paid to reserve one that is still being shipped but couldn't test drive it because if I waited to do that, someone else would swoop in and reserve it before me. I'm so glad these types of cars are in such high demand though, it's a really good sign for our overall emissions when high fuel efficiency and clean energy options are top of the market.
If you have a daily commute that more-or-less matches the plug-in hybrid's range - and you have the discipline to charge it daily - then choose the plug-in hybrid. If you don't, buy the hybrid. Plug-in hybrids are heavier and use more fuel when the combustion engine is active. They're also significantly more expensive. In the UK, most plug-in drivers only buy them for the tax breaks and then don't bother charging them.
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This was a very informative video for me! I've been wondering which plug-in hybrids have plug in devices that take up too much room in the cargo areas. Some of the luxury models (I think Audi is one) lose cargo space, and for those us who use the SUV's for travel, this is a negative factor. What is you your opinion on this issue?
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I use the Tuscson Hybrid Hev in winter cause I travel to Florida, in summer I use mainly my summer car. Since I would not do much milage at home, but travelling to Florida and I don't have a place to plug in there, for me the non-plug was the way to go. Plus $8k tax incl. more expensive for the Plugin, for the kilometer I put at home, I would never save $8k in gas. Very informative video.
Thanks, after perusing much information and having some experience with vehicles, the information and discussion here is spot on. The basic point about how its a more individual-specific calculation about these cars is very important, and also noting that the car and its features are designed to educate drivers on efficiency and being efficient while operating the vehicle. With the plug ins, its not just a matter of a simple mile range, its that the hybrid battery can be managed better and even over the all-EV range the main hybrid battery may give you more efficiency and more power. These cars are designed for efficiency, also in terms of weight and size of batteries etc. It seems like these important considerations, and how impressive some of these cars are, is not something our US energy companies love. Its amazing to see the size of Canadian incentives, and in northern US many Canadians were driving down to the US in EVs this past summer. Great job, thanks again.
I have a BMW i3. A unique plug in hybrid where the gasoline motor makes electricity to drive the electric wheels. 120 miles of range before you need gasoline. It is by no means perfect, but I appreciate the flexibility of being able to run on 2 different energy sources.
The rav 4 prime is a jewel for many who only drive around a small city most of the time. Also, SUV’s are heavy vehicles and the large electric battery is so powerful that it goes 0-60 in 5.5 seconds. That is what a bmw m3 used to do in 2005. Most will not need this power except for getting on short freeway runways BUT just zipping around town is unbelievable. All this power makes it a VERY snappy suv even with all that weight. Feels like you are driving a sedan with the pickup and nimbleness due to all that power.
I drove a Gen 1 and a Gen 2 Chevy Volt for six years between the two. I liked them both very much. On the Gen 2 Volt, I could get as much as 60 miles battery range in warm weather and about 40 in winter. After that, the gas motor would kick in and I got about 40 mpg. If they still made them, I would be leasing one now. I now lease a Chevy Bolt which is all electric. I can only charge it to 90% due to the battery recall. Still, I get about 270 mile range in warm weather, 170 in cold. I have a level 2 home charger so can get a full charge overnight. I haven’t take. A long trip in my Bolt due to charging issues but that should change as infrastructure improves.
I still drive a 2017 Volt and love it. I only fill up my tank every 4 to 6 months and use electric for my daily drive. Sad and pissed they stopped making them.
For me the main benefit of hybrid is the real-life 800km+ range that each full tank of fuel can deliver in the case of Toyota's, making it a perfect choice for long road trips.
I debated with myself for 5 years. Bought a Kia Niro "regular" hybrid in 2018 and it served me very well for nearly 5 years. The debate was whether its successor should be another "regular" Niro, or a plug-in Niro. After much thought given to my driving habits, the up-front cost of a plug-in, the effect of intermittent or occasional use on gas engine longevity, and other factors, I ended up buying another "regular" Niro hybrid. It's the 2nd-best-selling car in Europe, but Kia doesn't advertise the Niro here in the upper Midwest of the U.S., so buyers have to literally go to a Kia dealer and say, "I want to buy a Niro. "I had to wait 4 months for it after ordering. Local dealers had none on their lots, so I bought it without a test drive, but I'd been driving an earlier Niro for 5 years, so I had a good idea of performance and handling. I'm very pleased with the new Niro, which gets even better mileage than the '18 it replaces, and has some other features the earlier model lacked. It has so far been just as trouble-free as its predecessor.
I don't know much about the Kia Niro, but for me seems to be a good car. Take a look into this interesting comparison in which they used three versions of the same car model, Kia Niro, EV, PHEV and Hybrid. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HKBuQ_oGTTk.htmlfeature=shared
Just got my used Toyota Corolla 2020 with 40k km on it for 18k€. =) super happy with it. Consumption in the city is only 3.6l-3.8l per 100km. This really is fantastic and I am not even trying to drive slow and save on gas.
You explained the story very well. As a 2 plug in vehicle owner, I can attest to the economy of operation. In California, gas prices are higher than average, so a PHEV will save you money. Yes, they might cost a little more, yes, they will hold their value, and yes, it is a worthy purchase. Always remember the key word YMMV.
Got to say PHEV is a better choice for us, over the last 8 months we only spent around $300 on gas. Est $220 of the gas are from two road trips. So yeah effectively used around $80 of gas on day to day travel(poor planning on our end).
My 2013 Prius Plug-in has been a peach! Almost 1/2 of the 50k miles have been electric. On the road, I get 50 MPG. It’s taken me from the SF bay to Colorado, Canada and Oregon. At home, most errands are on the battery, then seamless transition to ICE. Charge off a 20 amp outlet in the garage. On a long trip, pure electric has to find a charger. I ignore charging on the road, just gas and go. Best of both worlds.
I love my Chrysler Pacifica plug-in hybrid van. It gets 30mpg in hybrid mode! Most of my trips are in the electric range of 32 miles. I went 1700 miles on my first tank of gas. Figured out to 105 MPGe. Average electric cost for 32 miles is $1.25.
@@Travis73917 Did you say that these apartments are in TEXAS? Do you know that the Texas electric grid isn't connected to the national grid. Do you know a lowlife representative you have picked a time to go to Mexico when your grid collapsed. No electricity means no air conditioning in the Summer and no heat in the Winter. Oh, did you miss your weather report....Summer temperatures over 100 degrees!!! Wait until all those EVs get plugged in!
Exellent breakdown of hybrid and plug-in hybrid. Everything you said cease to be on point I'm waiting for my RAV4 hybrid order October 2021 and it's just about me 2022. Really hope I get my car by Spring
We own two Rav 4 Primes SE. We drive 6 months on one tank of gasoline subtracting vacations and when on a trip we get 36 mpg driving 80 mph on the interstate. Subtract the $7,500 federal tax credit and we paid $300 more for our second plug in vs what we sold back our Rav 4 Hybrid 2019 last July 2021. No brainer for us. We are paying the equivalent of $1.40 per gallon in electricity. (I also have access to free public charging at work which saves me 50% in electricity on the round trip commute of 56 miles.) Note: I just switched out all light bulbs in our home for LED and the savings will offset the $30 we are paying per month charging our two Rav 4 Primes in our garage after 6 months when all bulbs will be paid for in energy savings.
@@samjam6989 We are still under the Toyota 2 year maintenance plan and we have the synthetic oil changed once per year. When we are done with the free maintenance I plan to have the synthetic oil changed once per year.
I have my Honda lawnmower with electric key starter and I LOVE IT because I don’t have to remember plug in charging but it charge itself while I running it. Everytime i use it ready for me all I have to do is turn on the key to start the engine. I will looking forward hybrid car working just like my Honda lawnmower lol
Great video but one thing you said is not 100% true. The plug in hybrids usually get a little less mpg then the regular hybrid. That’s because the plug in is heavier with the much bigger battery. I got the plug in Tucson a couple weeks ago. It’s been great I have not even used a 1/8th of a tank of gas yet. They clam 52km of pure electric but I’ve got over 70km with 19% battery left,
Depends a lot on the model. Kia Niro PHEV for example (aside from the fair electric range) saves 10% of battery so it never gets to that point where the battery is a complete dead weight before the recharge methods are needed to make it useful again. In this case the electric is always there to assist with getting up to speed after a red light.
We purchased a 2022 RAV 4 Prime model SE back in early march. Our car currently qualifies for a $7,500 Fed Tax Credit, and in Oregon a $2,500 cash rebate as well. Thats $10,000 off the price and we paid MSRP no hidden fees or dealer add ons. That bought the price of our Prime to that of a base line RAV 4 Hybrid perhaps even lower. With 1,850 miles on the odometer now we only used 14 gallons of gasoline. Electric rates here in N/W Oregon are 11 cents per KWH (that includes all cost and sur charges). So buying our Prime was the right thing to do as we already have a 2016 Chevy Volt with a 240 Volt outside charger with max output of 7.2 KW. My wife's 32-36 mile commute with our Prime is 100% electric and when she arrives home she normally has 6-11 miles of electric range left, thats with temps in the 30' to 50's. When running on hybrid mode with a discharged battery last time I checked was 241 miles just on gas and the pumped stopped at 5.19 gallons of regular gas. That pencils out to 46.3 MPG. In my opinion the plug in Hybrids are the way to go. Especially with gas well over $4 per gallon some places $6-7 per gallon.
I got a 2022 Kia Niro PHEV last month. The battery range (26 miles), means I can go for 2 days w/o charging. It's a bargain, you consider the price of gas vs the price of electricity. I can switch to sport mode and use the gas engine for highway driving and longer trips. The rated gas economy for the engine is 45 mpg. II recommend getting the PHEV, f you want the EV experience, but have anxieties about the lack of charging infrastructure. i do recommend getting the 240v charger if you have a home you can install it in. 2 months w/o having to go for gas. Got to love it.
I bought a 2024 Lexus RX 450h+, a plug-in hybrid SUV. I installed a level 2 charger for convenience and ability to charge the vehicle any time I need to. The vehicle runs excellently. The EV range is 37 miles and my commute to and from work is 10 miles. I charge the vehicle every other day and it takes just 2 and half hours to completely charge the 18kw battery. With my solar panel, I really do not feel any pinch in my wallet. I drive mostly in EV mode and when the EV miles got used up, the vehicle automatically switches to hybrid mode with it being transparent to me. The 14 gallons of the vehicle gives 500 miles which I seldom use unless on a long trip. The Lexus RX450h+ is the best vehicle I ever owned. I am sure loving it.
