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I was thinking this myself - Batteries = dangerous. Pressurised hydrogen = good. Let's hope there's health and safety read up on before the next experiment!
The name of the channel sounds like "kerosene" kinda, when said in english. Kerosene is a "normal" fuel. Kreosan: Let's run an engine on everything except normal fuels!!! This week, drain cleaner and foil!!! Love this channel. It's epic, even if the engine doesn't run. (Insert exploding drain cleaner fire extinguishers here) :p lol
@@mernok2001 They speak Russian, because they are living in eastern Ukraine, which is the warzone right now. Russian - speaking citizens of Ukraine don't feel to be Ukrainians and want to join Russia, or at least be apart from Ukraine.
Do NOT compress H2O2 as it is produced. Some people have tried and have died! You MUST SEPARATE H2 from O2 (by electroysis, you have oxygen on one side and hydrogen on the other). Also use a flashback arrestor and and a check valve. Be safe. Good video, thanks.
@@danielnyman6082 yeah u right. this guy TheGorphs is a wannabe smart. but he talked to early. and he got likes to. it seems is better to be stupid to get likes
@@danielnyman6082 not pure, there is some water vapour since the drain cleaner is a solution of water and NAOH or KOH and+the reaction is exothermic. they measured the bottle 111c
Sodium Hydroxide has got to be one of my least favorite chemicals to work with in amateur chemistry experiments. Everyone knows it burns skin, but people don't really talk about how solutions of it have a bad habit of coating and absorbing into skin, so any that you get on yourself will persist even through several minutes of washing in water. Also, dissolving NaOH in water releases a ton of energy, causing the solution to get very hot and start to "steam", creating a caustic aerosol that is damaging to the lungs and coats everything in a layer of caustic mist. Additionally, the reaction of NAOH and Al is rather unpredictable and varies based on the temperature, conc of NaOH, metal surface area, etc. The reaction may appear to not be working at first, but after an unknown amount of time may violently kick off, releasing heat and boiling the reaction mixture. And if done in a pressure vessel like this, it would be very unwise to not consider the ideal gas law, which could be used in addition to stoichiometry to estimate the pressures produced by a given quantity of reactants. Long story short, anyone can make hydrogen throwing chemicals together willy-nilly, but will you go blind in the process? Are you willing to face the risk of permanent disfigurement or even death should something you didn't account for occur? The answers to these questions depend entirely on YOU and your preparation. Please stay safe
I once made a bottle bomb when I was young and stupid, glass bottle with lid hoseclamped on for more power, by the time I got the clamp on and ran outside with it the contents were a swirling orange/black and bottle was cooking, fortunately I got away with seconds to spare and nobody was hurt....we could still hear the glass falling on factory roof some 5 to 6 secs later. Its still one of my cringe moments 30 years later!
Ears are the least of their worries. Boiling water and sodium hydroxide will blind you and burn & disolve your skin. Not to mention producing a flammable gas inside an unvented steel container. I'm gennuinely surprised these guys don't appear to have suffered a serious injury from some of their stupidity. Yet.
Omg, I love it. You guys are awesome. I so love your total lack of safety and balls off steel. Who needs flash back arrestors, who needs to worry about acid flying everywhere. And you got the scooter to turn over, stella! More skill than I had trying to run my Weedeater of hho. Keep it up, and remember, don't blow up.
hey kresosan, the timing of the motor is important. the spark must go earlier because it is not just explosion only, it has implosion first. search RU-vid for "2 stroke implosion conversion" and you may find what you are looking for.
Me to! I was sooo scared. If that bottle blew up they would have died!! Also they dont wear gloves! That drain cleaner is really dangerous in water and will eat your whole hand if it was spilled on there hand when it was 110 degrees! So stupud
Me to! I was sooo scared. If that bottle blew up they would have died!! Also they dont wear gloves! That drain cleaner is really dangerous in water and will eat your whole hand if it was spilled on there hand when it was 110 degrees! So stupud
No need for it, even if they get a flash back, it would just be a "thing!" sound and not much else. That bottle can take it with 0 risk. Having a pressure relief valve and not pressurising the bottle at all would be nice.
@@RU-vidforcedmetochangemyname a large 'bubbler' to also condense the steam produced by the reaction. A pressure relief valve on the steel container they're using to produce the flammable gas annnnnnd some protective clothing and face protection so they don't get sprayed with boiling water and sodium hydroxide. Better still, they should just skip this whole idea because they don't seem to underrstand the hazzards.
I saw a brown spot in the back of your pants!! Continue with this, with this advice. I believe you will need a larger reactor vessel, not to put more reactants, but to allow slower pressure buildup. Add a pressure gauge to the reactor, and monitor it closely during the next experiment. Use a secondary container that catches any liquid before it can get to the pressure regulator. Also, before the pressure regulator, put steel wool in the hose over 10 cm in length, enough packing to allow gas to flow, but not block the line. This will prevent a flame from travelling back towards the fuel source. Search for "flame arrestor" if you need more details. Last, you need a pressure release valve on the reactor to minimize too much pressure build up. So proceed, but do so with more safety in mind. We don't want you to explode! Have fun.
Maybe some ideas may include the same canister,but with two stainless steel bowls or some iron casted hemispheres welded together filled with water to the brim,with the small canister inside and water to cool it down.Consider adding control rods for absorbing the heat or dissipating it into the air.
Well if the hydrogen is stored properly without any air in suitable pressure vessel it is safe and unlike batteries if something catch fire it can be extinguished with water
Bright orange flame: there must be a lot of sodium in flame. There are far cleaner ways using lightly safer dilute acid instead on sodium hydroxide. Acid still dangerous but safer and cleaner.
How about using a magnetron in place of the spark plug. Use and ultrasonic tranducer to vapourize the water before it reaches the combustion chamber. Change the spark timing to exactly top dead centre, and feed a higher power to the magnetron. When the water vapour reaches the combustion chamber, the magnetron may produce a mixture between hydrogen and super heated steam which should force the piston down very quickly. You may have to modify valve timing and have better piston rings for sealing, but it may be something looking into.
Check the spark plug timing, in normal engine the spark occurs even for the exhaust gases, since they are non flammable no issues. But in hydrogen it's not the same case. During the exhaust stroke there shouldn't be any spark.
Definitely recommend running the hydrogen through a bottle with wet cotton or just water with rocks or plastic pieces inside to break up the bubbles to remove the alkali.
I'm so glad you guys are not in the US were this amazing work/art/innovation your doing would be shut down real quick. you guys inspire me and I will be using many of your videos as experiments while i attend school
Simple search on the net for the reaction and its by products might have helped you a lot but damn this is entertaining :D as it reminds me my first h2 baloon with led project which I did back in highschool to fool my neighbours into thinking an alien donut is arising to stratosphere
@Reno Simpson look at 3:54, is that aluminium? When did aluminium started rusting? Before talking shit watch the whole video. I'm willing to bet my left nut that's the same low carbon mild steel used for any pressurized gas cylinder.
If you can get some gallium I've heard you can use it as an efficient, reusable catalyst for hydrogen production with aluminum, minus some of the dangers of the alkaline solution. Unsure about heat generation, though.
First of all don’t use a metal container for the reaction, the alkaline will eat it away. Also try to refrigerate the reaction container to control the velocity of the reaction and to avoid spills, liquid going through the tube and water vapor in the fuel. Remember that as i said on the other video, that scooter probably needs oil mixed with the fuel so try to use the carburetor with oil instead of gasoline and make the chiclet smaller so that it doesn’t burn so much oil. Lastly remember that hidrogen molecules are much smaller than gasoline ones, so its much easier for the hidrogen to escape through a valve that is not closing perfectly or a not so perfect seal. Thats why I think its making so much backfire. Also I think I heard some knock, this is because hidrogen has an easier auto ignition so its igniting on its own without the spark from the spark plug.
My car used to use ngv, before I took the tank out because the ngv price increase and I happened to have that same small explosion before. In my case, I need to change the spark plug because the natural gas needs good plug to operate. Another reason which also my experience might be the rubber diapraghm for that regulator might have small torn causing leak and that small explosion. Even if the tear is small, you have to change it. Also the engine need to set a bit advance (if I'm not mistaken) for the ignition timing for the gas to work like normal gasoline, it will make the idle later run smoother like running gasoline. A restrictor valve also a must have for proper setting. Of course, I just share this for anyone here that might want to do the same setup permanently. It might help someone.
please continue. Use use hydrogen and oxygen generator running off alternator with baking soda as your alkaline electrolyte. Run your fuel through a water bubbler stage to prevent precipitants and ignition of hydrogen from returning to your generator.
One of the main challenges with using hydrogen as a fuel is its low energy density by volume, which makes it less practical for certain applications like transportation where space constraints are important. However, if effective and efficient methods for hydrogen storage can be developed, it can help address this issue and make hydrogen a more viable energy source. Several methods for hydrogen storage are being researched and developed: High-Pressure Gas Storage: Storing hydrogen at high pressures (typically 350-700 bar) in specially designed tanks can increase its energy density by volume. These tanks must be strong and lightweight to handle the high pressures safely. Liquid Hydrogen Storage: Hydrogen can be stored as a cryogenic liquid at extremely low temperatures (around -253°C or -423°F). This reduces its volume significantly compared to a gas at ambient temperatures but requires energy to maintain the low temperatures. Metal Hydride Storage: Certain metals, such as lithium, sodium, and magnesium, can form metal hydrides when exposed to hydrogen. These metal hydrides can store hydrogen and release it when heated. This method allows for safe storage and can provide a more compact solution. Chemical Hydrogen Storage: Chemical compounds can be used to "capture" hydrogen and release it when needed. This approach can offer high energy density and ease of transport but often involves complex chemical processes. Carbon-Based Materials: Researchers are also exploring carbon-based materials like carbon nanotubes and graphene for hydrogen storage, as they have the potential to adsorb and release hydrogen gas efficiently. Developing effective and safe hydrogen storage solutions is a crucial step in harnessing hydrogen as a clean energy carrier, especially for applications where energy density and practicality are essential, such as in transportation. Researchers and engineers continue to work on improving hydrogen storage technologies to make hydrogen a more practical and widespread energy source.
I love the commentary, it's a real classic. You guys must stop the liquid from leaving the container, that's the first thing. Also, the way you are doing this is extremely dangerous. Unless you research it thoroughly, don't do any more.
Different fuel types need different ignition timing on the engine, to not damage the engine and get the efficiency from the fuel. Also burning oxy- hydrogen produces not so byproducts, not just water like most claim.
i've seen others use a water trap to remove liquid of going into further in the system. i think it's called a bubbler. it also acts as a barrier so a flash can't travel back to the hy-generator...
They are like father of electroboom, he does funny fails mostly under conditions but in this something happens suddenly without any clue and this time that cord disconnection scared the shit out of me 😂😂😂
Maybe with a no return valve and changing the spark timing it will work! There's a pin on the flywheel that gives the signal to the spark coil, it could do something, but maybe it needs some work in the cylinder. Too complicate 😅
Awesome! Try making it work :) I guess the mixture was too rich in hydrogen, there was too much in the exhaust and blew up. Or it backfired into the intake 😅
S1R9A9M9 ran his Briggs 18HP mower engine 2008 on water in carb with the high volts ignition and 10 amps from temporary only battery and then alternator. The load voltage needed was over 1200 volts so he used bare wire so as the high voltage had induction leakage to low voltage side of the S1R coil assembly to raise up the low volts to very high value to push amps through spark plug of 125 ohms. The magnetic field on the ignition wire allowed for extension of spark time to about 34% on time ATDC. About 100 volts necessary to overcome small electrodes of gap, plug resistor, and the water resistance. The plastic tub hanging n side of engine has the S1r coils, accessory spark gap, and diodes. The original relay as used on the cars per cylinder, with inductors also would fit inside tub, but not 100% known. Purpose was to show engine can run with minute hydrogen generated and formation of water vapor pressure aiding process, at lower stroke area of piston. See You Tube videos. Web site shut down.
maybe make a larger reaction vessel and make a trap for filth , maybe a scrubber ... also a ultra sonic mister to pull in water fog .. hydrogen will self ignite , thinks its 120 joule pr cm2 . so a mist will cool all down .. but good to see a try on hydrogen fuel
2 stroke scooter detenation of gas is sooner then petrol so ports are not fully closed when ignition happens hence the load bang i am suprised the engine did not run backwards
You have to stabilize the hydrogen from the oxygen so it will burn effectively. Try storing the hydrogen in Deuterium. It is the only know element that is able to store and Hydrogen.
by using electrolysis you can produce hydrogen and oxygen from water then storing the hydrogen only in canisters, if the hydrogen and oxygen gets stored in the same canister it will be a bomb that will explode when it gets heated enough
I want to see more!!! I fully support, appreciate, and encourage this. I have a 150cc 4-stroke that I would like to experiment with a Hydrogen generator..
You should use a bigger canister to put the water and aluminium inside and also, don't use too much aluminium. The more aluminium you use, the hotter it gets, but if you use a bigger canister, you can use more aluminium without getting it too hot and also the the reaction takes longer because it has more volume then a small canister
Kon its because the size of the molecules, H molecules are really small, and gasoline molecules are large, so hidrogen being pushed by the explosion escapes through really small places (that gasoline wouldn’t) and goes to the exhaust and makes the pop.
I used to have NGV system in my car, still have them except the main tank because the price increase and the infrastructure closed down because of safety concern here. Backfire happened because of incorrect setting of the system, and worn spark plug. One time, it blows off my air filter box, where the spark plug work properly for gasoline. After my mechanic change the spark plug, the problem dissappear just like that. Of course, this is just one of possible reason of backfire. It might not for that case.
that hydrogen generator you got there is a ticking bomb, have at least a pressure relief valve. I used that reaction to produce cheap and easy hydrogen, and it tends to ran away and ramp up real fast. secure the cylinder in a tray/pan/half plastic jug with water to prevent a rapid runaway. Make sure you do not stay in front or above it, for obvious reasons. Use a washing bottle (have the gas buble in a bit of water at the botom of a bottle) to take out the steam and sodium hydroxid out of the gas, cause it will destroy your engine. Have a big balloon to collect the gas instead of letting it pressurize in the generator, to lower the runaway effect (this reaction goes faster the hotter the recipient is, at atmospheric pressure it will stop around 100c, as the water will boil, but if the pressure goes up, the temperature goes up, the hydrogen baubles will be smaller and the solution will stay in contact more with the aluminium. Please don't put yourself in the situation where that could explode in your hand, it would be a horror show. Have fun and keep up the crazy shit, love this stuff! :D
