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North American Rescue. Is there a time where it would be more harmful than helpful to use this a chest wound?

How does it stop bleeding?

@@cubbie9499 it's notade to stop bleeding. Generally speaking bleedings from chest area are either untreatable or not life treathening. Chest seal is put on to limit air getting into the chest and generating pressure on lungs. Newest cotccc recomendations say to use ventilated chest seal to also allow escape of the aor from chest.

I'd hate to be the guy who's the Guinea pig for that test. "Hey Greg! We got a .45 and some chest seals folded up into origami cranes, we're gonna need you."

Excellent question

So tension pneumothorax basically compresses the lungs to the point that breathing becomes impossible? And if there's active bleeding from the wound site indicating a ruptured blood vessel, is immediate full surgical intervention the only way to stop that bleeding?

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Tampons plug bullet sounds pretty well. Just saying lol

@@whatdoiput807 What, do you put them in your ears lol

@@spiralizer if I get shot through and through both my ears, sure. Worth a shot.

@@spiralizer bullet wounds* lmao I've been thinking about your comment for the greater part of the day and just realized my typo. That's funny.

Don’t worry, it was just an animation.

Hope he’s ok

Jmyster4 Only if they're a vented chest seal. This company makes vented ones as well.

No, they stated that there is no evidence that the 3 sided approach is better than 4

@@vikingsfan2123 Oh. No wonder the product i’m looking at says “vented”.

You can slap a collapsed lung spike on.

@@Sean-rn9kw That's old news

Dunno about cars, but in the USMC, infantry units with corpsmen carry this stuff in packs in the snow when it's -10 f out and hump this stuff around for weeks non stop. Sometimes even getting wet and it does last a few years at least.

This isnt to control bleeding, its to help breath. ABC's. Airway, Breathing, Circulation, in that order. My knowledge is dated, but it doesnt just apply to combat. Like anywhere, if you get shot, it's all about where and how much time passes. If you get shot in the chest and cant breath, the bleeding won't really matter. If you get shot in the arm or leg, a tourniquet may help. Each case is different, but these can close chest wounds to help you breathe and turniquets can stop you from bleeding out. Doesn't mean if you apply one of these or a TQ that the person will live.

Chest seals, tourniquets, and packing gauze/pressure are to keep you alive long enough to get to a surgeon.

R. J. Ulmer usually needles used for TP come with one way valves. In emergencies you could use a simple needle or a pen, but after a while you should close the needle opening with your finger or tape. When the patient has difficulty breathing open the needle hole again. This cycle repeats until you get to better advanced care.

Yes

+Tregeta Yes - this only stops new air from entering the chest cavity. To remove air already in the chest, you also need to use needle decompression. If the chest seal is applied early enough, you can prevent air entering the patient.

Yes. To relieve the pressure, you would need to use a vented chest seal, which some other companies do make

Saying it can still happen is required for all chest wound products. Treat with needle chest decompression.

I saw in a comment above, someone who seems to know what they’re talking about, said you want the GSW side DOWN, so the organs push down on the lung and wound. It helps prevent a pneumothorax, which is the larger concern vs blood loss. (These things stop blood loss pretty good too btw )

​@ROBIN_SAGE , so do chest seals help provide the necessary pressure to Kickstart the body's natural clotting process? (Differential pressure at the wound site, Clotting, fibrin into fibrinogen, blah blah blah)

you mean expiration date? Yes but I've used expired ones when teaching trauma classes. some were 3 years past exp and worked great. Ireally don't think a GSW victim will care if the vent/seal is expired. The victim just doesn't want to expire

yeah bro it is smushy texture anyway it would be impossible for it to retain any permanent memory from its storage position

I’ve been waiting seven years for a response.......I can finally fold my chest seals!!!

@@Isaac_Davis_ that's hilarious

@@Isaac_Davis_ do you still have the same chest seals?

@@Matthiasschweizer come back in 7 years to find out!

Those instructions seem horribly out of date…. Like much of what Red Cross says and does. I trust the TCCC and what I’ve seen with my own eyes in 2 different wars. Do the chest seal and take your chances.

Is your certification more important than saving a life?

I was taught to put the injured side down..

@@lukejackson1575 same here

Literally every chest seal sold by north american rescue has two, one for entry, one for exit

why

Chest seals typically come in packs 2. You should apple one to the entry and one to the exit. (I have no medical experience and just an repeating what I heard on other videos)

the one with vent is for when you anticipate air buildup inside the chest. otherwise you can just use a normal one and burp it every little bit if pressure builds up

@@Liljoozy Whould it be a problem if I use an vented everytime?

@@lennertscherka514 the non vented one kind of more appeals to EMS on the civilian side so you can secure to your protocols Ie your agency may say to seal on all sides

@@lennertscherka514 I say just use vented all the time keep shit simple

To stop any bullets from entering the building

dick smith yes, if the pt has a hairy chest, or sweaty chest. You can shave it and wipe it. It’s common sense

@@paulinscott2190 wrong. Zero chance in a TCCC environment will you “shave hair” you’re gonna stick that mF as best you can and tape that shit if it’s not stickie enough. Common sense