Hype, Value, and How to Tell The Difference

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In this stream, we'll have a casual discussion about "hype" as it relates to software projects and how you can determine whether something is hype or it actually represents real value.
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@rudolf-adamkovic Месяц назад

Re "everything is subjective": Suppose you are right. That is, suppose everything is subjective. Then, your statement "everything is subjective" is objectively true. But that is a contradiction. Anyway, objective truth indeed does exists. See, for example, formal sciences, such as mathematics and computer science. [Also a tip: Define "hype" before discussing it.] Still, thank you for sharing! I am always happy to see your content.

@bullpup1337 Месяц назад

Truth is mathematics is subjective in the sense that “true” typically stands for “formally provable in a given axiomatic system”, or alternatively, “valid in all possible models”. Precise definitions depend on whether you accept AOC, Law of Excluded Middle, or,perhaps are a constructivist. In any case, there is certainly no universally accepted notion of absolute truth in mathematics.

@rudolf-adamkovic Месяц назад

"Formally provable in a given axiomatic system" is objective, as I understand it, because for all statements within the system, all subjects will compute the same truth values, which are then objective by definition.

@bullpup1337 Месяц назад

@@rudolf-adamkovic you still have to decide which axiomatic system to choose. There are different options, and the choice is subjective.

@rudolf-adamkovic Месяц назад

@@bullpup1337 That, I do agree with.

@capability-snob Месяц назад

I remember thinking that CRDTs were overhyped. Yet, they do have more practical applications than ML seems to have, despite the extant pump+dump reaching beyond the dev sphere.

@DavidConnerCodeaholic Месяц назад

i want to say there are some purely objective things that acquire layers of subjectivity once conscious beings make them into objects of thought... anyways. i don't think we will fair too well understanding AI if we don't understand our own minds... or the minds & conscious experiences of animals. we need to be better at understanding the variety of minds that have emerged in nature. some conscious AI will have a mind with novel functionality and novel constraints that don't quite exist in nature's wetware. idk, probably too serious.

@bullpup1337 Месяц назад

What novel functionality could that be? The church turing thesis shows that anything we could intuitively call a computation is already fully covered in the turing model of computation. This leaves no room for any new kind of “functionality” by AI or other technological advancement, just performance improvements.