honestly as an alva main ur so right abt him lmfao he’s such an unserious hunter and i think that’s why i love him so much. alva mains dont even like alvas gameplay and thats wonderful. live laugh alva the hermit lorenz💛
I started to play Alva out of spite of these annoying harassers and delayed dmg/extra hp characters I see every game. It's so satisfying making them much less impactful.
Alva is so cute! Whenever I see he’s the hunter I immediately go to find him I feel sorry for my teammates but like I can’t resist Alva he’s reeling me in! 😍🤩
as a hermit main myself i can agree with how you placed him. honestly, if anything, i think playing him is the thing that makes him exciting for me, but i can agree he can be a little boring to watch sometimes. he’s pretty niche at times especially with good counter play against him but most of the times you really have to fight for that win and i do like his multitasking factor! this is my personal opinion though and i may be a little bias but i do agree with how boring the stuns are to watch and how slow he is because he honestly gets out run so much by survivors 😭
As an ada main you're absolutely right like sometimes its not that exciting to watch her matches and it can definitely be situational and as a lg main im glad she was in the tier she was in cuz honestly i kinda panicked Everytime i watch some good lg mains. As a puppeteer i agree because we just need to see where he's at and what he can do
1:26:48 I agree somewhat cause his pickaxe dash is only useful if you’re in like a VERY open area and you can’t hit anything on the way cause then it’ll just interrupt your dash which is SO annoying. Also he is really weak at full presence which is why I bring an insolence detention build for him (I copied a pro fool’s gold persona) but even with insolence he is kinda weak cause the rock doesn’t really do much when you’re chasing someone, at least in my experience when playing him. Once he reaches full presence though he can kinda cook. He is fun but he’s also difficult if survivors know how to counter him, im slowly losing my c badge for him cause im too scared to rank again😭
I WAS JUST ABT TO CHECK IF YOUVE POSTED AND SAW THE PING ON DISC THAT YOU DID YIPPEEEE 🎉🎉🎉🎉 also i do agree that decoder gameplay is often boring but me personally i like seeing when they kite bc some people are sooo good at kiting with decoders
as a former S badge embalmer i 100% agree w ur placement 👍 he's a weird character in how coffin (post-2021 buff, beforehand he was considered *extremely* weak) is very versatile, but very situational in how you use it. you can use it to have an insane last-second cipher pop or rescue if you're injured, or place it on dungeon for a teammate. those moments dont come often, but when they do its when this game feels like an absolute blast
Honestly, as a wax artist and hermit main completely valid lmao I started playing them out of spite like some others too, and now I love/hate them 🧎♀️
Hello idv fans! We’re you also a patience fan? (Idv livestreamer) because I know he was taking a break from streaming and RU-vid, but like a couple months ago I could still see his channel. Today, I wanted to watch some of his videos. And his channel is gone? Like deleted? Does anyone know what happened?
I watched patience too! I didn’t even know his channel was gone until I read this comment, when I search his channel it doesn’t show up. maybe he deleted it? idk :(
@@coffiteaain case yall didn't know, patience was accused of some very bad things, of which he took responsibility for some (iirc.) hence why his channel is not active anymore. Stay safe y'all
ur right about the wu chang stuff, even though theyre meant to be teleport hunters it feels like 99% of the time the umbrella is on cooldown when you need it hgwejtwkjdg feels like the survs are attacking u and ur trying to manage it by having that map prescence. still theyre super fun (and im biased) . and yes survs look so stupid when siphoned i love to see it
Just for anyone that curious about top 10 badge survivor with the highest character pts in asia server : 1. Prospector : 19002 2. Forward : 18242 3. Ento : 17245 4. Merc : 17130 5. Anti : 16135 6. Enchan : 15200 7. Aero : 15142 8. Batter : 14580 9. Seer : 14092 10. Acro : 13552 Note : some of them has more then one 1st S badge for example acrobat, merc, patient, priestess and aeroplanist is the same person. Batter, enchan, antiquarian and prospector is the same person. Forward and eli also is the same person. You need at least 7500 or 8900 to just get their A badge ( top 100)
I agree with Gardener! My friends say she's basic and cliche but she really is a cool character and fun to play and watch. I agree that she is hard to master. Also, 100% agree with Prospector. I love all harassers in general- watching them are so fun and it makes me laugh so hard (except when I play Hunter)
i dunno man, griffins said that they were scared for their lives when i was playing Joseph against them:) it's the thing that most Joseph's on na/eu are following the predictable playstyle. i am Joseph who almost never camps chair. i switch targets 24/7 or ts people at chair, i do have to chase with my card sometimes too, but the best part about my card is the infinite teleport trick, my god this is somethingXD i will be honest with you though, you said that joseph just does the same over and over again and that's so true on this frickin server... i hate it, i try to experiment as much as i can, i go into camera world mid chase and get out of it in the area i predict where survivor will end up, sometimes i get them and sometimes not but it's so interesting and entertainingXD
same here from a hardcore joseph main!! I agree that most na/eu joseph matches are boring bc they ALWAYS camp and ts at cipher at the end of photoworld, too predictable. me though, I switch targets all the time too, it's better for map control. used to be a camper too but im glad I grew out of that haha. my favourites are infinite teleport (difficult to do nowadays but oh well), teleporting inside photoworld and sometimes I do reverse ts if I know a surv is decoding inside photoworld. also transitioning into photoworld during a chase to avoid a pallet stun, that's useful as well coolest thing I've done is use card trick to counter Vera's perfume in the 2nd floor of hospital! watching Asia server joseph mains is a lot more exciting for sure :) so unfortunate that na/eu matches seem more sluggish than anything also wowza I'm glad norton and martha are in HYPE tier they're my top mains. the rest are not far behind... hunters- ok so I play fools' gold and he has got massive potential imo because he can manage cipher control AND decent chase AND powerful camp at the same time. i play ithaqua and grace too so them being in exciting makes me happy
8:07 While I do agree with a lot of the takes in this list, I do think you undersold just how insane Cowboy gameplay is post change. I believe Cowboy is by far one of the most hype harassers to watch and, ironically, I believe it is because survivors do not get healed when rescued. Whenever a Cowboy is going agaisnt a Hunter trying to chair a survivor, it effectively becomes a game of chicken as to who makes the wrong move first. Cowboy needs to stay alert and be ready to rescue, whereas the Hunter needs to try their best to throw off the Cowboy and either miss rescue or chicken out. What adds more to Cowboy's hype is the fact that insta lasso is back. If the Hunter messes up and drops a survivor, it gives him the chance to instantly lasso and save them, meanwhile old Cowboy was boring and useless because the Hunter can just count to 2-3 and drop the survivor, making lasso useless. On top of rescuing said survivor, you still need to be alert and on your guard. While most harassers can push or stun and get away until they're needed again, Cowboy still needs to interact and buy time with his raw kiting skills with a survivor on his back, one wrong move being enough to cost the match. Cowboy isn’t given his victory or time on a silver platter like Forward or Antiquarian, he needs to actually work and earn it. And thats not even talking about item conservation, baiting Hunters to drop survivors, the Hunters deciding to chase you, the potential to still save your teammate with one lasso save. Thats not even getting into how lassoing the Hunter grants you immunity to everything except Gamekeeper's hook, so you can dodge fog blades, mositure, hot wax, fire souls. While Cowboy is by no means the best harasser in the game, he is absolutely the best harasser to watch imo due to all of the depth that goes into his gameplay
1 hour video is crazy, please make sure to not overwork yourself zeez 😖💔 but at the same time, thanks so much. It’s impressive how well your channel has been doing recently and how you can produce great quality videos almost more than a half hour long, especially since I feel like Idv hasn’t had much going on at the moment. Keep up the great work 🤍🤍 so insanely proud man :]
Honestly i kinda agree with the evil reptilian tier, he is so cool with his infinite jumps but for that you need energy, and most of the time he doesn't have a lot in end game, it's scary and silly to see the flying pretty lizard on the air that comes from the other side of the map but i haven't seen that a lot of times
For me, bloody queen is most exciting to watch. (I’m definitely not bias at all btw) my take is, when you play BQ she’s usually a tie hunter so watching pro players use her is so much fun because they really have to fight for that win. Although I agree with most of what you said, some BQ matches are just pretty tame: chase survivor, camp, kill survivor, cipher pop, tie. I will say survivor gameplay (for me) will always just be more boring than hunter gameplay.
5:43 I'm kind of surprised you think of TS as positive. maybe this is my yellow ping + slow reaction time bias talking but personally I think TS, at least for rescuing, is overall not something I see as healthy for a game that in-cooperates camping so heavily. During a kite, not getting ts'ed is a game sense thing you learn by not vaulting when the hunter is close or when there's risk of getting a blink terrorshock. But during a rescue, you can't just.... not rescue to avoid the TS, you just gotta pray. As hunter I've never gotten a rescue TS when trying to and as survivor I've gotten terrorshocked frame 1 while trying to bait. There's def some mind-gaming aspect to it, especially with hunters that can pressure you to rescue like bonbon, Naiad, etc. - but I'd just much rather see a hunter hit + teleport + hit or use their abilities to stuff a rescue rather than watching a terrorshock. 18:35 merc is definitely a meh for me. you can't do anything special with elbow pads, and seeing him achieve something is always more boring than seeing anyone else do it, because _obviously_ Merc will get the rescue, and obviously Merc can dungeon-escape (against single-hit hunters). And body blocking for someone is imo not as fun as having a batter push them back, etc. Merc is too safe and that's why he's meh. 20:00 Priestess support IS cool, the problem is that it's too cool haha- 27:40 totally valid but I must shitpost: isn't all kiting just stalling your eventual elimination? [illuminati theme plays] 47:35 the passionate Charles enjoyers..... I feel like he can do a few fun tricks, but I feel like he's only hype to see bc he's played so rarely sdhdas- I'd put him in Fun To Watch haha (had to leave and just listen so no more timestamps) Puppeteer is honestly an interesting concept gamedesign-wise to have an ability be tied to your health instead of a cooldown etc. it's like a perfumer evolution haha. I do think that it's a weird system for a kite/rescue character to have? Because I'm sure people will figure out nice plays and I think in the hands of a good player, he will be kind of insane for all of his blocking variations, etc., but he's... he's supposed to encounter the hunter but doing so will get him injured. He can only buy so much time with Louis. I think this concept would be rly cool on a decoder, actually. (support alr has Ada, kinda) Like, decoding buffs or functionalities that chip you when you activate them. Decoders usually spend all game either decoding or on a chair (lol) and since idv decided that decoders will not be high-risk anymore bc everyone and their mom is getting kiting abilities, I think it would be really cool to have a decoder have this choice of "do i risk being an easy target to use my ability"? Idk what that ability would be, but I think it'd be kinda funny. --- Breaking Wheel - maybe it was bc I was there during their meta days, but I honestly would only put them in fun to watch/exciting. I will gladly watch a BW, but tbh watching survivors run in circles is just goofy. but ig that adds a fun factor too ^^ Wax Artist - I find him kinda fun just because we don't have a lot of hunters that can outright block things, esp gates/ciphers. He is fun to me in the same way that Clerk is, just... changing SOMETHING about the monotony of this game's structure by being able to play around cipher pop a little. Nightmare - fun to watch but just bc it's fun to root for the underdog :") I think I've never heard a more accurate statement about Luchino than "at full presence, yes, we're ballin- but at no presence, we're crying" HSDHj MELLY IS THE BEST?? no way!! (surprised pikachu face) But yeah she is really cool. She has a lot of intricacies and ways to optimize her gameplay and watching it unfold is just very satisfying
Puppeteer can avoid feeding presence with undaunted! Its a timing ability and can kite for an extremely long time when used correctly. (Downside being that his heal is slow and he kinda needs to be in a team with healers)
My one argument is Doctor. You have not known anxiety until you have played/watched a doctor keep standing and getting into close calls because she's trying to heal. And when she DOES pull it off ??? Especially when she immediately gets hit after it always gives me a rush of energy lolol - sincerely, a doctor main
Zeez do you like apple juice? Important question Also at the time im writting this im only 50 dice away from getting king-h1 which i get in some hours since its almost monday and that means logic points reset🎉🎉🎉🎉
i remember in some previous videos where zeez said embalmer was a little boring to watch so i submitted a professor match instead of an embalmer match for gyr because i thought it would be more exciting but now i was proven wrong xd
45:07 shes literally so good endgame too i main her and i saved a loss to tie thanks to my catapult, shes such an underrated support i wanna see her more in tournaments
I went to postman… I can understand why you did that considering postman is kind of basic. Yeah he can be good but his ability sometimes requires the team to be decent at kiting, along with pinging which is kind of hard get nowadays.
Doctor is indeed lame she is just a worse psychologist and majority of the time she just feeds a hunter presence. In my opinion professor is exciting even though he is just blocking hits it’s at least skill based and fun to see the mind games he can do to bait hunters to swing at him and the fact that him just existing in the game can give every other survivor in game a free scale to do the same makes the game really interesting insane survivors might even be able to block blinks or push the hunter into the tram for a massive stun
I’m here to defend my man Kurt 🫡 I understand it’s your opinion and it’s 100% valid but it sucks you say the most hype thing abt him is when he gets dungeon like nooo trust you just haven’t seen good matches 😭 ppl hate on his mains cause we just don’t know how to kite but I personally love hiding just because it wastes sm time like some hunters spend a whole minute looking for me at the start and when being rescued or endgame all I have to do is get out of the hunters sight and hide and they waste sm time looking like one time in griffin rank the hunter switched to listen just to find me which was funny and I just find him really fun/hype in my opinion