Hyundai i30N is no match for the Toyota GR Yaris - STRAIGHTS TOP, TURNS FLOP // Nürburgring 

Have the anti roll bars made a difference? What ones did you go for?

@@GRfourfun this lap was still without them. Actually this was the lap and conversation that convinced me to buy them. Car feels definitely better under braking and seems to rotate better on throttle. I am happy that I added them.

@@GreatMotors Whiteline?

@@GRfourfun H&R.

@@GreatMotors Thank you 👌🏻

Thanks for the info! Very cool!

The Yaris does 0-200 faster than the i30n, you just have to see how it overtakes it on the straight, if you think that is stock you are too naive

@@sinonose0-200 is 19.2 for the i30N and 19.1 for the Yaris... that's from a stand still because of the all wheel drive. Rolling the I30N is faster 100-200 is 13.1sec for the I30N and 14.4sec for the Yaris. I have driven both stock and the I30N is faster.

@@kadj79 hahahhahahahaha

@@sinonose And you are laughing because?

Sorry it came across that way. He was a nice bloke!

Agreed.

Yeah I agree, disrespectful acting like they were faster than the i30n which they hardly were. Guy is acting like he knows everything about the ring but spews out the most random stupid shit. You're more conservative blablabla, if you are so conservative because of him pass him than but guess what he can't.

Thanks 👍

Obrigado por mais uma visualização Mário! Foi um alerta de pressão, nada de preocupante. Eu tinha acabado de descer 0.3bar em todos os pneus e o carro não achou muita piada à situação. A ED (bomba de gasolina) continua no mesmo sítio, e presumo que muita das recordações ainda se encontrem expostas. Abraço!

As simple as lowering the tire pressure. Went from 2.4/2.5 to 2.2 all around :)

@@GreatMotors can't get simpler than that!!... and cost-effective too! Thx for sharing the tip 🙂

Like a FWD Golf R. Or like a Civic Type R competitor.

@@GreatMotors I see👍 By the way, there is a lot of talk in Japan about g16e-gts having a blown engine, how is it?

@@user-dn9dh3df4c no problems to report so far (running stock power). Car has around 21.000km. I think the valve springs are a know "problem" if you want to go over the 300hp, and I believe the rod bearings is also something that people change. I would not run more power in the car as is. You can here my passenger talking about oil temperatura at the end of the lap. It was already at 135°C and this with a stock engine. I would focus first on cooling.

@@GreatMotors I hope it was a coincidence, because g16e-gts are handmade and unlike mass-produced items, everything is one-off, so the quality varies. Looking forward to your videos. I will continue to support you from Japan!

Thank for the thoughts. I have considered stiffer springs but what you mention is exactly what I am worried about - the car becoming too stiff over the bumpy stuff. I run considerably stiffer than the stock "clicks" in the KW CS, and as you correctly predicted it helps a lot in transition periods. I felt the biggest difference in turn in and braking. When we get to steady state, mid corner, that's where I noticed the biggest lack of body roll control. I have since this video done another 12 laps - videos to me - with H&R adjustable anti roll bars. I was using soft in the front and hard in the rear. I didn't feel my rear wheel getting up so I think I am still good on the rear end. My inside front doesn't get off the ground in some bends (like icekurve) but I don't feel any traction problems when going on gas. As part of my tinkering mentality I am considering moving the front bar from soft to medium. I still find that the car could benefit from slightly higher roll stiffness. Any thoughts on your side ?

Thank you 🙏

Who knows 🤷‍♂️, I would have a great time. Much better than being a keyboard warrior 🫠

From what I've seen in your videos, I doubt you would have a good time... 😂 btw unlike yours my keyboard does little work, but my steering wheel works a lot and leaves me with a smile on my face all the time!

​​⁠maybe you should rewatch the videos. Not many sub8 yaris out there ;). Anyhow I bet you will do better times on your steering wheel and PC 😘

Even with a PC steering wheel I get more pleasure than driving a concrete mixer truck soundcar like that 3 cyl... 😆

@@Bartpacman1I bet you do buddy. I hope you enjoy your 7.2.2 sound system at home while I enjoy my boxer engine on track 👌

They are evenly matched cars indeed 👍

Hot hatches are not supposed to be a family car. It is a convenient every day car. I carried my son on mine for over a year. I do think it fits that porpoise.

I get both kids in mine no bother

Thank you ✌️

👍 I was surprised by how much faster this one was than my GR Yaris.

GR yaris is indeed AWD. Thanks ✌️

Maybe it's not a manual car :)?

Um muito bom co-piloto 😅

Not necessarily, a lot of the facelift i30Ns have seen over 300hp on a dyno. So if this Yaris is standard power-wise, it’s obvious why the i30N would pull away on the straights. It’s pretty hard to beat a Yaris on semi slicks and KW suspension in the corners

You are right. The Yaris bang for buck has incredible cornering mechanical grip. Even with the standard 225 wide tires that are not that wide by modern standards.

Car is completely standard power wise, it's a well known disabled driver in our owners group using hand controls for braking and accelerating, the i30n is a much faster car on the ring in terms of pure lap times. Yaris is a great car though but the i30n just edges it overall

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Upgrades were made 😉

@@GreatMotors Ah OK. Thought from the title it was stock lol..

@@dbank6107 engine is stock. See the video description for mods.

@@edinburghwatchcompany247 interesting I wonder why the speed difference was so big going out of the cones. I have done other laps with other i30N and speed was extremely similar to the GRY.

Yeah that can well be it. The GRY has very short ratios between starting and getting to T13 you go from 2nd to 5th gear. I had another lap with a i30N and I didn't get the impression the brakes were weak (at least for 1 lap). I am assuming you already did fluid for something track worthy and have braided brake lines. If yes, and you still find the brakes lacking I would just get something from AP Racing. For me having no confidence on the brakes is the worst experience on track

Shame that it was considerably slower on the corners 💀

@@GreatMotors Except its not - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C_BAr5B6Tc4.html

@@GreatMotors I know it can hurt paying 20k more for car thats slower, but that's Toyota for ya ;)

@@bishopchristodoulos8153 I hope you see the irony in that. I say corners, and you send a video of a drag race. Ahaha! Idk know how much the GR Yaris costs where you come from, for me it was actually cheaper that the i30N. Not that I would want to spend so much on a FWD platform.

@@GreatMotors If you actually watched the video, you would know the drag was at the start followed by a circuit race. Yaris GR is discontinued, so you're comparing new vs second hand. Next on the list to compare is the corolla GR which is 15k more in Australia

Now in English please ? Are you saying that stock per stock the i30N is the faster car ?

Yes it's faster, definitely more fun to drive plus it doesn't make concrete mixer truck sound like the GR 🤣

⁠@@Bartpacman1Claudio, don’t be salty and just show up and do better 😮‍💨

@@GreatMotors The i30n is the faster car entirely in all situations other than 0-60 on and off the track. Professional lap times (on all tracks) prove this. I know the owner of that car, he is disabled and using levers for accelerator and brake. You obviously have better track experience than the i30n but if it was both with racing drivers, the i30n beats it. The i30n was stock engine wise as well as you made a comment at the start which baffled me, the i30n is a much faster rolling acceleration car than the GR Yaris. But the GR Yaris is an amazing car for what it is. Glad to have some new fun hot hatches made in recent time!

Tristen was a great passenger 🙌

@@GreatMotors Not everyone would agree.

@@diremond3700 you can never please everyone 🤷‍♂️

@@GreatMotors If I were the driver on the other car, I'd have been particularly unhappy. Still, it's your channel, please yourself I suppose.

@@diremond3700 unhappy because of what exactly ?

The 3 pot is lighter while bringing 300hp in the GR Corolla trim. For the Yaris that's plenty, the car doesn't fill sluggish at all.

Definitely slow enough for me to pass, I was just not forcing it. Gold was catching up when there was traffic nothing more than that. i30N costs about the same here as the GRY.

Some goodies were applied between the lap and today 🫣. There are more videos to come 🚀

Was a really nice afternoon for me ✌️

Good luck. Watch out for those overheating batteries and brakes...

@@GreatMotors Brakes in Tesla M3 Performance is better than 992 Carrera S. Overheating is a thing of the past. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UmiZ6ayCBB0.html

You should be able to drive for that. 😃

It has massively more HP, so it is expected to be much faster on the straights (at least as long as the battery holds 😉). Other than that, it’s a fairly lardy, fat pig, meaning it is far from being a proper sports car.