In Canada only the RWD Model 3 qualifies for up to 10k off in federal and provincial rebates. The Ioniq 6 all of the trims qualify so if you want AWD then the price gap makes this the obvious choice. It's neat how getting other people to pay for your stuff changes what you buy.
I really wish they would offer the top trim of this with the 18 inch wheels. Larger wheels are worse in pretty much every way other than some people think they look better.
@@Hans-gb4mv Doesn't seem to be, if you get all the fancy features of the top trim you have to have the giant lead weights making your car miserable too.
Completely agree. If I bought one of these I'd order the 18 inch wheels separately and just swap them on myself. So irritating they can't offer them from the factory.
I can't say I like the look of either the Ionic 5 or 6, but I do think Hyundai should get props for being brave enough to make them. They are certainly amongst the most interesting designs on the road.
I personally think the SE is the way to go if you want to get this car. Nothing that you get in the higher trims seems worth the extra cost to me, but I'm sure others will disagree.
Totally agree. The differences between the SE and the higher trims are very minimal, and you have to lose range to get those higher trims on top of the higher price. Seems like a no brainer to me
@@hawxchampion523 Imma offer the opposite opinion... I have an SEL RWD and I often find myself wishing I had gotten the Limited instead. They cut out a lot of creature comforts on each trim lvl and those vented seats would be amazing in summer and anything that reduces your AC needs greatly affects range. It would also be nice to be able to have the user profiles, the 360 camera for parking cause its a very wide car and i've already scrapped the nice wheels twice because it can be hard to get a new, wider car parked. The range/ charge time is pretty damn good and while I will be getting some after market wheels 18" for it, I've already done a 1000 mile road trip from NC to PA & back and I only had to charge 4 times during the trip. The extra range would have probably reduced it to 3 but in all honesty we needed the stops to get food and coffee.
@@dakotapahel-short3192 I actually agree that I would go for the Limited over SEL if you can afford it. The best of all worlds is the Limited and putting 18 inch rims and wheels on it, but that's also the most expensive. For me the value pick is the SE if you don't care about the things that you could get with the higher trims.
It’s better than expected. It’s the awd 20 inch wheel model. It had the 12v battery replaced after 10.5 months and updates for the ICCU charge unit and recall check for inner drive shaft. It’s range is 285 miles going up and down mountain ranges, over 300 miles on the flat. Very happy with it.
The screen of Model 3 is the problem. I have to twist my neck too much even to check the speed. With the Ioniq 6 all the important details are right in front of you.
I thought the same thing to be honest before I bought mine. But it's right at the top corner of the screen. When considering the line of view it sits right at the 2 o'clock edge of the steering wheel. I barely even have to move my eye focus to see the speed, let alone physically move my head. Yes, I would still prefer a secondary HUD or column instrument display, but it's far less of a deal than I initially thought it was going to be.
Interesting numbers...but keep in mind that for commuting, a Bolt will buy you about the same efficiency as shown in the video for about half the price. Yes, the Ioniq 6 charges much faster and has all sorts of extra bells and whistles that the Bolt doesn't have, but for a routine commute that you charge for at home, none of this matters.
But great road cars also need software linked to navigation system that lets you know you battery/range accurately. Then you need charging THAT WORKS. Thus, I love my I5, but we bought Tesla YLR for the road.
FYI, ECO mode does not disconnect the front axel. It changes the allecration profile to use the front motor less often. But if you floor it in ECO it will still use the front motor.
Just for reference, above 50F outside, my M3LR on 18" aero averages ~230Wh/mi, or 4.3mi/kWh on the highway. I can hit 5.0 in good conditions. When it's around freezing is where I'm getting more like 3.5 to 3.7mi/kWh. Then 3.0 or less when it's single digits or below 0 outside.
How the cars look is subjective, of course but to me the Ionic 5 is a strange mashup of hatchback and 80s blocky stying. The Ionic 6 is nicer from the front but wow, what happened with the rear?? Haha. Thanks Kyle and Anna!
This is pretty close to my polestar 2 dual motor in these conditions. I'd get 3.6-3.7mi/kWh in these conditions. The polestar does really well if you keep the speed consistent, the stopping here is what would push it to 3.6 end of the range. I can get 3.8mi/kWh at 70mph in traffic free conditions. I have the 19" wheels on the polestar 2.
Reasonable commuting. By the way, I have difficulty communicating because I had a stroke in Broca’s area, the part of the brain that controls speech. 2/8/2021 but I lived again. (My wife helped me compose this.)
wow. i am not crazy for the cars looks but with that kind of efficency, its definetly worthy of the name Ioniq. might just be my new favorite EV. i wonder if Kia will make a similar model(other than the EV6)
You commented how you like the HDA2 so much, which I assume is the same as on the Ioniq5. The only problem I have with the adaptive cruise is that when you use it on roads that have traffic lights it does not notice that cars might be stopped at a traffic light ahead and rather than gradually slow by coasting it races at full speed till the last possible second and then slams on regen to stop. At times I worry that it won't be able to stop. They really need to do an update to the logic they use.
Ioniq 6 Hyundai claims full OTA on all systems, no mention on the 2024 Ioniq 5 if it will have that same Over The Air software updates on all systems, likely same as mine with only info-system updates OTA.
This is very dependent on the driving you did and speeds that were used. In a addition the car above was with the large wheels and AWD. The 3 has way less features and a smaller size which contribute to a weight difference and drag difference.
@@gregkramer5588 of course it depends. But these numbers aren’t in the same ballpark. Of my 1527 miles 600 of them came from a trip from Dallas to San Antonio at an average speed around 70 mph. We probably have another 500 miles or so driving on the highway in Dallas at speeds in excess of 70. The discrepancy between my model 3 and others that you can find on other videos RU-vid is minimal. What you see with this ioniq 6 is consistent with other estimates and they are all less than the 4 miles/kWh. Long story short, this isn’t the Model 3 killer it was touted to be. Plus the model 3 comes with more options standard.
@@mgarcia8878 I can hit 4 mi/kWh on my M3 Long Range without even trying. I have to be travelling more than 75 mph to get less than that. This is in 50F+ weather of course. And I'm in eastern MN, where it's a little hilly with the river valleys, but generally flat. When it's flat, no wind, and 70F, I'm hitting 5 mi/kWh on the 65 MPH highways. I've hit as high as 5.2 before on a 25 mile stretch of flat road at 65 MPH with a slight tail wind.
I am really waiting on the efficiency data to make my decision about which EV to buy. If it is as efficient at the EPA numbers indicate it should be more efficient than the Model 3. I am after efficiency so just waiting for the actual testing data. Hopefully we will see the real tests SOON! I want to see that base aero model test! I am interested in the SE RWD LR for the efficiency and range. Would like to know if it is just a wheels swap to get the better economy. Could someone just buy the higher trim RWD car and swap for the 18" wheels and get that 361 miles number? Would like to know if it would be that simple to get the longer range. I want to know how that all stacks up to the most efficient RWD Model 3.
I would say 100% yes, changing the wheels will get you the 361 mile range (or VERY close to it). There are no other big differences between the trims that would affect the range at all. The biggest one that comes to mind, and it's only on the LImited, not the SEL, is the sunroof, but I doubt that would make any noticeable difference to the range, versus having no sunroof, if installed correctly and giving no drag. Outside of that, there is absolutely nothing that would cause the range to drop, outside of maybe 1 mile, with everything combined. I actually have the Limited and am considering swapping out the tires to get that additional range, but so far it is a non issue for me, as I'm able to charge back up to my desired 80% every night, but would definitely come in handy on long trips.
Its a gorgeous car and looks to be a pleasant interior to be in. I was wondering what is the cabin noise level, the tires seem pretty loud at highway speeds?
Just to be clear, you ran this test in Eco mode, meaning rear wheel drive only (front motor disengaged), correct? It seems like the smarter manufacturers are moving towards better efficiency and faster charging rather than simply installing bigger batteries. This seems smart to me. Why lug around extra weight (bigger batteries) that only comes into play now and then when, all things considered, you can achieve similar results with efficiency and charging speeds? Plus you’re no longer hauling around all that dead weight that doesn’t benefit you at all for the vast majority of your daily driving - it actually hurts the bottom line. Good video as always. Me, I’m keeping my M3 SR+. I like that with the Tesla you get nearly the same features and specs regardless whether you get the RWD or the Performance trim.
I really think the AWD Ioniq 5 with the 19” wheels and 235 tires gets significantly better range than than the top trim Limited with bigger wheels and tires. For some reason Hyundai only lists one EPA range number for all trim levels. I suspect it’s from the Limited.
I agree with Anna, best driver seat ever. WAY more comfortable than my Model Y. It is smoother ride and much quieter. Which is why she was falling asleep ;)
@@Marcus_Wulfhart Yeah, I did test drive the Ioniq 6 after this video, and was impressed by the leg room, especially since I had the driver's seat in my 6'5" position (all the way back), and still had plenty of room in the back seat for me.
Maybe do the tests late at night? Less wind and no traffic might make a more consistent test. And although I like this car, I would still go for the Model 3 due to the charging situation.
I looked at the top spec the extra to see if the features justify the cost. It is a big number ($4900) but Hyundai does deliver a lot. Power folding mirrors Gloss black exterior accents 8 way power passenger seat ventilated front seats driver memory seat Bose sound system Heated Steering wheel V2L in second row Sunroof rain sensing wipers Smart Park Surround view monitor Blind Spot monitor Parking collision avoidance assist Hmm, Just a bit too expensive for me since some of these I do not care about.
I know this is probably a dumb question but I’ll ask anyway. I have an ioniq 5 limited AWD that came with the 20in tires. Can I get 18s or 19s and keep the same rims and If I get replacement tires that are 19 or 18s will it give me semi significantly better range?
The 20 inch tires are on 20 inch wheels (or rims as you say). You need different size wheels if you’re going to go with smaller tires. 19 inch tires go with 19 inch wheels.
What is the impact of the regen setting? Despite blended braking, style of driving, coasting and how much you actually brake may have some significant impact no?
Is the cruise control able to handle stop and go traffic comfortably? And what happens if a car cuts in closely in front of you, does it comfortably "see" it and slow to keep a safe distance or does it slam on the brakes?
I’ve thought about this too. I think it’ll be a wash. Because while going to cameras may reduce drag, that extra power has to be used to drive the camera feed and digital display
There's been tests done on this with other cars. I think the theoretical range is usually anywhere from 3-6% better fuel economy when removing one (or both) outside mirrors. Obviously a lot of this will differ, dependant on the car, and theoretical is just theoretical, but some actual tests have been done and yielded true results that support that theoretical range. I suppose the best way to measure this, as it is increasing fuel economy and not overall miles, would be to look at the kWh that the car is getting, and increase it by 3%-6%. For the Ionic 6, say you are averaging 4.5mi/kWh. On the 77.4kWh battery, that would net you ~348.3 miles. Assuming a 3% increase, that would put you at ~358.75 miles, and a 6% increase would put you at 369.2 miles. So anywhere from 10-20 miles additional range. These numbers are far from exact, but I think they would at least give an idea. As far as the power being used from the digital cameras/monitors that someone else had mentioned, I imagine the impact from the mirror drag is MUCH higher than the impact of running the digital cameras/monitors, so I doubt that would affect the overall increase in range much at all. 10 miles additional range would be a pretty safe bet, with potential for more.
I don't know if it is the camera angle of filming but it looks like you barely fit in that seat. and too close to wheel... looks uncomfortable. ty for the review.
i am not fan of external design reminds me about some kind retro style particularly old Hundai coupe WITH THAT SAID I LIKE BACK END not so front of the car 🤔
Hi Kyle, I watch all of your video and would enjoy meeting you in person. I live in Scottsdale, Arizona. I see your currently in the area. Please let me know if you want to get together if you want a tour around town. Thx. Alex
It looks like your phone is too shiny because it creates glare or reflection on the car when you are filming the car you should get a matte finish phone case juste notice that good video anyway .
So much whining about “EVs don't have enough range," and we know most will cheerfully take the 20-inch wheels, and sacrifice 15% of their range, because it looks cool.
This is the dilemma with many Evs you can’t get everything you want unless you get a Tesla. Meaning efficiency/range, sound system, driving features, convenience of charging. I have an ev6 and every time my wife has to charge without me I get anxiety and have to be on alert.
Uh tesla sucks, no buttons, empty blank shit box, overpriced, misaligned panels, paint chips, missing brake pads, no customizations available....like 3 colors to choose from, and now a recall due to seatbelt bolts missing...
@@tsmatthx2 An empty cabin is excellent not a downside - early Tesla models suffered from panel gaps and build issues but that is well in the past - the 2023 models from Shanghai do not have panel gaps, rattles etc. Only the model X has the seatbelt issues, every manufacturer recalls cars - even Toyota, and all the US manufacturers have recalled millions of cars. The world disagrees with your assessment there is now more choice than ever in EV's but the Model Y will be the best selling car on the planet in 2023 and the model 3 the best selling sedan by a country mile. The people have spoken - public opinion is against you, you are like the guy stuck on their horse drawn carriage saying these horseless carriages suck - they will never take off.
I'd like you to test out my modified model 3 and see what you think. I'm going for max range/efficiency. On a (granted 1 way) trip down i5 from Portland I got 270wh/mi at 75mph with hvac at 72. (22 m3p)
Could you not use miles per energy unit (kw/h or gallon) but use something that better shows efficiency gains like energy unit per given distance (e.g. 100 km or miles).
was it me or was there an excess of noise/road noise in this video, and can you get an addon from your cell phone with a db meter showing the noise readings?
Too bad that the 361mi are on a trim level that is so badly equipped that you almost “must” go to a mod trim and then it becomes a regular “300mi car”. And the higher trims come with wheels that nobody really wants, but they look good, don’t they??? The mid trim doesn’t even have rain sensing wipers. On a 47k$ car. The efficiency is wasted to equip it with a smaller battery that benefits Hyundai in terms of cost, but not the driver who ends up needing a 47k$ for a not fantastic range….
Only problem is it is ugly Looks like an old Infinity I30 (I think that is the name) with the top part of the back looking like a Porsche and and the bottom looking like the front bumper of some car. Oh, and compared to the Ioniq 5 it is cramped with the full console.
Zelle sucks. Don't beileve me? Watch what happens when you decide to change phone providers and then make a simple mistake on the app. They'll ban you for an "unspecified" amount of time from the platform for "security" reasons. That's basically whan their rep told me when it refused to take my banking info after changing carriers. It's a piss poor way of doing business.
