Hyundsubishi Eclipstra GLS-T Coilovers?!

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Nobody makes coilovers for a first generation Elantra. Go figure. So if I want them, I somehow have to make them. It's a series of failures that brought us here so why should this one be any different?
Yoshifab really did the bulk of the heavy lifting because their out of production Mitsubishi Mirage camber plates just happen to fit my Elantra, and they provide everything that everyone else's coilover product lacks, plus the ability to bolt onto my upper strut perches. The problem has always been the diameter of all factory springs and front strut assemblies for every chassis that these steering knuckles bolt to. They interfere with the strut towers preventing me from making any useful adjustment on the Yoshifab camber plate when used on this chassis, introduces bump steer, and prevents me from using any useful tire sizes. That is what drove me to this decision. Through a series of failures I simply managed to discover which strut fit best. That is how I honed in on which car's coilovers to order. Mirage coilovers do exist but introduce their own set of problems with all the DSM stuff that I already have.
This was the right solution for this car all along. The FRONT suspension cost more than the actual engine rebuild that I performed here on this channel. It is the most expensive modification it has ever received because it's only a half complete job, but it cost as much as I spent rewiring it. I did this because no other OEM part solution or bolt on out there is ever going to fix what was wrong with the front suspension. Maybe this is the lesson I always supposed to find and demonstrate with it? I'm not the only one with a weird swap out there, or who wants to build one...
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If you really want to see the other suspension solutions that were attempted. If you want to look backwards at what brought us here... then...
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@802Garage 2 года назад

Doing some fun digging because I love researching stuff like this. KSport makes coilovers for the 89-92 Colt/Mirage which have the same strut mount design front and rear as the 92-95 Elantra. Using RockAuto to cross reference parts. So assuming KSport does actually have the correct top hat designs, you could likely order a set of just the top hats. Other brands may have them available as well, likely D2 or even Megan. Or it could at least give you a jumping off point. The rear strut mounts also seem to be shared with a ton of other cars that you could likely find coilover top mounts for somewhere else. For example, MaXpeedingRods sells 2g Eclipse coilovers and the rear top mounts are allegedly the same. Could likely get just a rear top hat set for $50 if you contact them. At any rate, I'm sure you have far more hours of research into this than me, and I shouldn't spend all night on it, but just thought I'd share thoughts and a potential lead. Better to share useless info that is potentially useful than not share useful info that is potentially useless? Keep up the great work!

@802Garage 2 года назад

How did this comment get 50 likes? Hahaha. Makes me feel like my late night researchcapades aren't completely wasted. :P

@kevenweaver9266 2 года назад

Hey Jafro, I don't know much but I've performed somewhere around 40,000 alignments and here's my advice. Front camber shifts 0.2-0.3° positive and 0.2-0.3° negative on the driver front and passenger front, respectively, when you sit in the car. This is perfect for fighting the %2 road crown on the street but may cause a drift on the track if it's level. Front toe also shifts unevenly when sat in but it's highly dependent on the location of the tie rods in relation to the wheel hub. When you do the proper alignment at some place with a Hunter rack, ask them to have a guy sit in the driver seat or toss some weight in the seat. I prefer 0.12° positive toe on each front wheel for extra stability with the tradeoff of some tire wear. Best of luck

@brl5755 2 года назад

best a alignment I ever got was when they let me sit in the car and be the 'wiggle the wheel and center it' guy

@willnichols2233 2 года назад

two jafro posts in a week, whhhhat, Im not mad about it

@PHUSII 2 года назад

I know that the Elantra is just a pile of "junk" in some peoples eyes but for me its the pinnacle of what you can do with used parts and few selected new upgrades. I like how it looks like its been dug up from a scrapyard and still blows by 95% of the cars on the road with ease :). Keep the episodes coming, i'd watch you swap a bicycle tire or refill a lawn mover gas tank. The narration is what does it for me. Stay safe!

@david929190 2 года назад

I modified used BC coilovers from an 05 lancer to fit on my last AWD 91 talon. Had to make top mounts for the rear and adapt on a section of stock shock to get the right length and lower mount. For the fronts I made camber plates, drilled out the dsm knuckles, put shims in the lower mounts for the narrower knuckle top. Fortunately I had a lathe at my disposal. Total cost $50

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

Now THAT's what I'm talking about! I'm still going to make lemonade out of these rear units somehow!

@junechris 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile Your Elantra is like my Saturn SL2 that I'm building up. I can't get coilovers, they used to make them from Drop zones, and a few others in the 2000's and maybe up to 2010 or so but the aftermarket support has vanished so I have to use WRX coilovers from the 2002-2007 Subaru , which is fairly easy, the knuckle being the hardest to modify. Luckily at the moment I've managed to add H&R sport springs , KYB GR2's and a polyurethane master bushing kit and had them installed with some help from a buddy of mine, and they still feel pretty healthy but I might still pick up a set of Racetech ultimo's for the car when I do a set of RPF1 15X7's and install some 205 50 R15 Toyo Proxy track tires, or at least the track ones that still have similar tread pattern to s normal performance tire that still has good wet and dry traction. My apology for the long rant but I wanted to say how much I enjoyed your channel!!!

@foxisretrofitting4556 2 года назад

I love this. I have no idea how I haven't found this channel before. It makes me very happy to see someone doing such a unique build like this especially with a Hyundai chassis. You rock man and your energy is awesome!

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

Oh man... there's so much content here. I feel bad for people who are late because my videos are so long! Welcome!

@johannordenswan1200 2 года назад

Damn, brony, you got someting rare in presentation. WISH i HAD YOUR COMMITMENT TO LITERALLY ANYTHING.

@802Garage 2 года назад

Highly recommend a modern set of cordless tools as a priority upgrade as Patreon money permits. They really will reduce your frustration and increase your productivity. Even just the lack of compressor noise and an air hose can make the day a bit better.

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I'll get a round tuit. I've been told by somebody not to buy an impact. So for now I have to wait... but I'll fill in these gaps. You know I love buying tools!

@TheCrockerShow 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile I'm a mechanic in canada, I use the dewalt 20v cordless XR. You can get an amazon one from the "warehouse special" from a return for a big discount. Pawn shops have plenty of 20v Dewalt batteries for sale cheap aswell. I've had it for 4 years, and a dewalt brushed 20v for 4 years prior. Love all your videos

@802Garage 2 года назад

@@TheCrockerShow I use DeWalt 20V and Milwaukee M12. M12 is nice for the mechanics tools like the ratchets and smaller impacts. Mostly use DeWalt over Milwaukee for the big tools because I get so many great deals and free batteries with combo kits etc. For example I recently got the new DeWalt DCF923 with a free 5.0Ah battery for only $175 shipped. Hard to beat that. Can also get the big impacts on eBay for just over $100-150 pretty regularly, brand new. Either way, my collection of cordless tools has made working so much more fun honestly. Sure I still do a lot by hand, but when you just need to get something in or out, it saves a lot of wear and tear on the body and mind.

@TheCrockerShow 2 года назад

@@802Garage I have the MAC 12v cordless ratchets. 1/4 and 3/8. They're fantastic if you Crack the bolts loose first. But the Milwaukee ratchets blow the doors off of them. I only have them for the convenience of same charger as my 20v. I get a lot of use out of my "Noisemaker 9000" MAC metal air ratchet.

@brentbaker954 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile if you're dealing with rusty bolts I'd stick with air. My Dewalt xr doesn't even come close to a cheap jet impact at only 90 psi. Also most air tools are far more compact.

@seymoarsalvage 2 года назад

You can get a adapter to use modern Li-ion 20v batts in that old DeWalt. Or, get on Torque Test Channel and pick a new cordless impact to buy. The new stuff company's are coming out with is insane. (Kobalts 24v right angle impact is on my list, things nuts)

@LilasTools 2 года назад

The must have impact is the m12 Fuel stubby or the new DeWalt atomic!

@aserta 2 года назад

I have my wheel sockets magnetically attached to the door jamb at hand reach above my head. I've never lost them that way. Never keep them with the tools, that's always a recipe for disaster, especially for people like us who have lots of specialized bits and bobs for the right job. Got that trick from my neighbor who took pity on me after seeing me struggle with tape and hex drivers one day.

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I need to be better about it. I have shafted a repair shop on a lower ball joint replacement with it before. They still got it done! lol. Elantras have bolt-on ball joints.

@minivanin 2 года назад

I always just keep em in the car, glovebox or door pocket. Once they leave the car they grow legs

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I thought many people would find that scene relatable. I lost a day of progress over that thing and found it in my office.

@andli461 2 года назад

If you haven’t already, visit the web page of Intercomp or similar and have a read about the basics behind how corner weight works and what can and can not be achieved. Along with how. Just a friendly advice to take the black magic out of It. As you say yourself, it’s a great tuning tool. 👍 With a lot of rubber left in your suspension you will always have a lot of hysteresis to fight and it can be a real pain. So bumping (one man each side, standing in the door opening working the suspension) the car between adjustments is essential. Together with a thin plastic film/document binder (don’t know the proper name, sorry) between each wheel and scale, at least you have taken that parameter out of the equation. All types of binding will affect your readings. To have this done the correct way you really need to make sure the scales are leveled (no, concrete floors are not) and the ARB should be removed etc etc. But let’s leave that for now. I probably sound way to arrogant already. ☺️ Consistency and repeatability is key. As always with tuning stuff. 👍

@davidsawyer1599 2 года назад

Love the bandsaw usage. Glad to see your hands are intact. Thanks for taking us along.

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

Thank you, yes! Plenty of experience! But this was refreshing because I brought you along for the figuring out part so you could see it evolve. I don't always know what I'm doing when I start these! I just know what I need to accomplish. This was too huge of a win not to share!

@prashilkumar9995 2 года назад

Finally was craving to see this Elantra...

@briansmith6242 2 года назад

Great Job jefro!!!!!! Mad props for keeping this platform alive

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

RU-vid was definitely about to go out of business before I showed up! ;)

@briansmith6242 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile lmao. I was referring to the Hyundai platform. Lol. Keep it up I like seeing outside the box thinking

@CaptainTonus 2 года назад

Josh at Yoshifab is a very good friend of mine. He actually prototyped the first set of CSM camber plates on my Mirage Turbo back in the day. That was back when they had the caster issues that I think he eventually corrected

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

He asked if I wanted extra caster built in, I said yes... and brother, it's there. Now that I have normal steering it's extremely obvious!

@alex4alexn 2 года назад

everyone needs a Matt, just a good guy

@Boosted00 2 года назад

The DSM suspensions/coilovers also work on the 92-93 Sonata that I know of. I also have the "big brakes" from a 93 TSI Eagle Talon AWD on my 92 Sonata with a 4g63T swap. Haven't had it on the road since 2007 or 2008 ish. I actually was the first person to 4g63t swap a Hyundai Sonata or any Hyundai for that matter. 2nd person was a guy named Justin from Australia and he had a 95 Sonata. This was back in 1999 Till 2007 when it was last terrorizing Toronto streeets lol.

@RallyLancer95 2 года назад

Why off the road for over a decade?

@Boosted00 2 года назад

@@RallyLancer95 Had my fun with it back in the day with 430 WHP , spent a shit load of money on the car over the 7-8 yrs it was on the road. The car was and still is all together , fully built top to bottom motor, custom turbo header, sheet metal intake manifold, haltech stand alone etc . Didn't lose to many cars I ran in to on the streets back then. 500 crank HP was pretty descent for early 2000's. But then life happened and I put her away for me to rebuild her again one day even better. AWD would be in the plans next time around and maybe 600 WHP on pump gas. That could work lol. I'll see what happens but I'll definitely will have a RU-vid and IG about it . It sucks there was no social media stuff back then really where I could have documented so much shit about the car and the Toronto street racing scene from back then. It was good times. All I have are a few pictures , and a couple videos floating around somewhere.

@molsenice 2 года назад

Jafro, ya couldn't have timed a release better Thank u .

@oneilphinn6370 2 года назад

Finally keep them coming dsm guru

@ClickoZen 2 года назад

I really love watching you, because if you have to hack something you do it, for the benefit of science or for the benefit of our egos, you don't know how many times i've done something like that. And i really think you are one of the top mechanics in the internet. Been watching you since 2010 i think. Regards and happy new year

@maxwelltannenbaum 2 года назад

Great info here. I am currently working on my 1990 Sonata, which has a fair amount of similarity to this. I will get to my own suspension challenges down the road. G4CS with the DOHC conversion and the turbo are back in the car. There's a lot left to do before it is on the road, but it may be another first next to your Elantra. Thanks for all of the great content!

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

These swaps need to exist only because they can!

@Spoonifyable 2 года назад

Thanks for all the videos Jafro. The Hyundai is how I found your channel all those years ago and it still brings a smile to my face everytime you work on it!

@jpkillah1 2 года назад

1. Hi jafro 2. You should try taking some material off of the metal sleeve on the bottom of the mount plate you put in to get that extra bit of thread you want from the shock in the front. 3. I’m glad to see that you’ve been posting recently, I can’t wait to see the gsx back in action!! As I’m sure you are as well

@gtsjeg04 2 года назад

Always nice to create a solution that works.

@zac2384 2 года назад

Had a stroke reading the title, thanks Jafro

@nomjasdk 2 года назад

Pumping the throttle pedal on an injected engine. :D Good video.

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

Yes, and it's mostly about affecting vacuum by opening and closing the throttle plate. Not about the fuel or ignition part. This car has a throttle cable.

@nikonordman7624 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile i wonder why my Mk1 Focus sometimes requires pumping the gas to get it started when it's cold

@lolatmyage 2 года назад

pump eeeeeet

@KaMil-gw2qr 2 года назад

Jafro, one day we will be gone, our batteries worn out, but the trusty old breaker bar will still be king.

@andyoverall1951 2 года назад

Didn't get a notification, I'm annoyed at RU-vid! Fortunately I sensed a ripple in the Force that can only happen when Jafro releases a new video. Keep up the great work, Jafro! Note to self, stop watching re-runs of Star Wars at Christmas and spend more time on this channel.

@chrissraceporting7055 2 года назад

Your head porting video helped me up my game with porting

@jdnrotterdam2150 2 года назад

In 1995 my parents ordered a new Hyundai Lantra. It’s the model next to yours. They ordered a 2 tinted special paint. And a spoiler on the trunk with a 3th brakelight . I was their company car. They had a price limit from the company and they had the options of. Or 4 electric windows and a electric open sunroof or 4 electric windows and A/c They choose the sunroof… never understood that… in the hot summer i always told my father dad… why dad..why… his answer: it looks sporty…. But i also see that your dashboard is exactly the same! So they didn’t changed that. I also like the Hyundai Excel from that time line! Around 1993. The sedan of the excel looks as big as the lantra

@NuttGreez 2 года назад

Instasub! You've given me hope in this current wasteland of desirable, AFFORDABLE chassis/platforms!

@kooldoozer 2 года назад

I see 2 alternative paths that might have also gotten you to your goal of making your strut parts fit together. Instead of cutting down the rubber/steel bushing thinner, you could have counterbored the inner steel sleeve in the rubber bushing to allow the piston rod of the shock to go up into the inner steel sleeve. Leave enough thickness remaining for strength, a 1/4" thickness would be plenty strong enough. Another way would be to turn back the shoulder on the piston rod of the shock. Carbide in the lathe will absolutely cut this easily. Either way, these mods would have also given you more threads for your main nut to grab. Any machinist with a decent lathe could do either of these tasks. Just another point of view, as I am an engineer with a machine shop. BTW I love you mix and match style of car building and parts swapping. Just go with what works. Not what the catalogues and advertising says what works. Love the channel. --Doozer's Shop

@HotboiEngineering 2 года назад

Jafro, I highly suggest finding some higher quality coils or having the Megans revalved. As with any Taiwanese cheap damper body, they are known to have inconsistent damping corner to corner, massively under or overdamped overall rates, adjuster wheels that don't do anything or do the inverse of what they say they do, and springs that have very little travel and bind easily. There's shock dyno data in a BMW forum and it's absolutely disgusting. See if a local shop can revalve and or rebuild them to be consistent and have adjusters that work. If not local, there's a company called Red Shift motorsports that revalves BC coils. BC is another taiwanese universal damper assembled to fit a bunch of different chassis (just like the Megans) so maybe with a little convincing they'll do your Megans?

@jeffboyer8214 2 года назад

Hi, I like what you have done there & it pulls straight now and even on both wheels. Now it's just shocks on the back correct. The closest thing may be cruze coil over set for the rear it's a 1 bolt mount on top. You would have to make a plate for the top so it would be adjustable. For camber / caster. Can't wait to see your times on the track.

@jaysfishandwhips1328 2 года назад

Love you jafro! Nobody makes these dsm videos with the vibe, and knowledge you deliver. Bless you man!

@kenxiong6830 2 года назад

Jafro continues to polish the turd. Love it!!!

@suckithardnfast 2 года назад

Yesss another Jafro video! Thanks for all your hard work. We really love and appreciate you doing these! I am a Mazda guy but man do I love watching you work on your cars.

@wolfparty4234 2 года назад

Omg!! That’s a ton of patrons!! Way to go!!!

@dylancade2003 2 года назад

This is Awsome! I’ve wanted to do a first gen Sonata with a 4g63 for a few years now. Love my 80s econoboxes

@AgaetiAlex 2 года назад

Cool to see you defeat SAI, included angle, and camber without an alignment rack. Take it to my shop for an alignment!

@davidfarmer 2 года назад

nice! I converted some honda ridgeline struts to coilovers for my 83 tercel 4wd using my lathe and some sleeves and eibach coils. sometimes that bump steer is caused by unequal steering linkages, alignment shops will crank one side more than another and then it happens.

@mikesmirage 2 года назад

I have a set of Honda radial bearings to install on my coilovers. They are by godspeed. Since mine did not come with a bearing for the front struts under the pillow mount.

@carpetbomberz 2 года назад

Let's take that $800 plunge. Amen and amen. And I didn't realize this was also the same care you did the from scratch wiring harness. Two big problems put to rest. Onto other things.

@ttpgarage 2 года назад

That's awesome Jafro, no amount of money is worthless for a Hyundai 😉👍🏻. But I'm curious 🤔, I've installed several sets of coil overs (for customer cars & all my cars have coil overs) from Megan, Tein, K2, and Rev9s which every single one had camber plates so I'm curious which set did you get? I also have a set of FWD GST set on my 89 Mirage GT which I had to drill another hole on the strut tower because DSMs have that 3 bolt for the strut vs only 2 on a mirage. I could have knock 1 stud out but I figure I'm going to drive the car hard and another bolt on point wouldn't hurt to have. Great Job though on the Elantra, love to see the Hyundai still alive and well. I really do miss my Hyundai 🥺 Keep it up man 👍🏻.

@williampowell5717 2 года назад

19:30 the struggle is real. keep at it Jafro! Love watching

@Spinnerpvp 2 года назад

"I want to fill up as much of that hole as i can." - Jafro

@HKRXPRS 2 года назад

If you think this platform is unsupported, you should try the first gen Hyundai Scoupe. Even worse I'm in Australia and have no access to DSM parts like you lucky folks in the USA. That said, you really should look into 3rd gen (mid 90's) Hyundai Excels/Accents. There's a massive race scene with them and 90% of the front suspension parts are interchangeable.

@TheOystei 2 года назад

if you got coilovers with camber plates you could either gotten the top plate of the camberplate machined or swapped with your old one as the mount is usually really similar between a lot of them.

@Clark_R 2 года назад

I was almost 14 minutes in and started to type this comment suggesting threading the strut rod more, then you said it right then, lol.

@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 2 года назад

Jafromobile is the "Right to Repair" posterchild!

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I would be their broadway star if people understood why the right to repair is important. Denying it is an attempt to strip everyone of their property, money, and satisfaction. But I don't need to explain any of this to you. I also feel like it's a result of companies creating products that were always intended to be disposable so that they can keep producing cheap, disposable products. Remember when Detroit built cars worth fixing? The ones they built that were-are all still here.

@PontusOhlert 2 года назад

Almost new year and Jafro comes with a new video YEAAAH!!

@ferrofilos 2 года назад

Awesome car! Keep shearing the good work and the mistakes, all is worth it

@davidbeer 2 года назад

What what what what what? Jafro again so soon? BONUS🇦🇺😋

@diecastmodelhub 2 года назад

Long time no see :)

@Tyler-fi4ms 2 года назад

jafro you give me bad ideas! keep up the vids bud i cant get enough

@Clark_R 2 года назад

And honestly...... easiest way would just drill new holes in the shock tower to fit eclipse/mirage, etc top hats.

@MidLifeCriTSIs 2 года назад

The voice over sections before 5:00 the Audio is a little off. Anyways awesome video and glad to watch!

@PAC0TAC0 2 года назад

I am surprised you didn't go down the street and talk to fortune auto; they are west of Richmond.

@ReidEvers 2 года назад

lmao I need a Jafro x Fortune Auto collab

@connercrepeault8776 2 года назад

Best title ever

@goblinphreak2132 2 года назад

CHRISTMAS HAS RETURNED! Thanks for the video I needed a great car video to watch. And your videos always "hit the spot".... hits the car enthusiast g-spot. ROFL ON THAT NOTE, I feel like if you were gonna go down the rabbit hole of "paying out the ass" you might as well just contact a company that makes custom coil overs and have them custom fab a set. I know there was a popular youtube channel that did just that, ordered custom set of coilovers. I can't remember which channel but the company was (I think) in Europe. And they had custom coilovers made because they couldn't buy one "off the shelf" and it was pretty decent cost/performance ratio. I know SILVERS brand in the US make custom made coilovers. Dunno their prices though. Also can't you just buy suspension for DSM? or are those suspension parts completely different? just thinking out loud here.

@Ismaak5 2 года назад

I am not sure if the Elantra is the same platform as the Hyundai S-coupe, but back in the day here in Europe people would modify VW Golf 2 coilovers to fit the S-coupe.

@ByCrail 2 года назад

Airlift and bc coil overs have good damper adjustment knobs u should look into them they are longer

@noisytim 2 года назад

OOH NEAT ! That's the kinda hackery i love :D

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I told you I'd see you tomorrow!

@noisytim 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile ❤ you're the best, man! Almost spoiling us with vids :D

@frankkatsenis3812 2 года назад

The algorithm took me here what did I just watch

@Krippfan 2 года назад

When you do corner balancing you look at diagonal weight distribution because that is where the weight moves when you adjust a corner

@InitialDIYmods 2 года назад

Hey jafro, super fun video. Curious, what was the reasoning behind not making an adapter for the shaft so that the adjustable mount fits directly on the shaft and then use the height adjustment on the coil to compensate? You wouldn't have needed to worry about the top nut as much then too. It would also be much easier to fit on a lathe too but you could make it with an angle grinder and a drill too. Looks like you have two top hats now rather than just the one you need and that the Megan one is acting as a spacer. I did watch this on my phone so maybe I missed that detail 😅

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

The Megan rear hat is what's holding up the top of the spring. It has a thick rubber and steel sleeved bushing in it, which is what you saw me cut down. If you look at the way the KYB's fit in those things, they were recessed down inside the eccentric nut, too. The pillow ball nut is just huge is all. Both struts fit it about the same. Yes, I do have 2 hats of sorts, and I had two of them even with the factory springs... but the Yoshi's aren't designed to hold springs or spring loads so I can't do what you suggest. The shaft does go through the pillow ball, though. The upper perch is just like with the factory spring, the thing that holds the spring on below the pillow ball. What I don't really need is the roller bearing thing. I put in on there because it makes the springs surprisingly easy to adjust. I'll never need that space on the adjustment, it actually let me stuff 1/2" more of the cylinder inside the threads of the lower strut mount because I left it on there. All the turning is handled by the pillow ball, so I don't need that roller bearing thing at all. It makes it look crazy. It is a little crazy. The gutted upper perches are hilarious, but the way it is right now everything works perfectly!

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I'm eating my words. One way or another I'm making a new upper spring perch because I found a problem. It's not a problem right now, but it will be later. There will be no more unnecessary rubber bushing in v2.

@InitialDIYmods 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile well eating our own words never tastes very good, but I'm curious to the solution you come up with for the new problem. I always found the top hat side being much easier to deal with fabbing with mostly non specialty tools. The lowers typically have a lot more annoying challenges and loads on a MacPherson strut setup where the top is (mostly) just a pin connection.

@teddiazjr.6223 2 года назад

Congrats on the mod

@HuxTheSergal 2 года назад

Yay more Elantra

@5084204 2 года назад

Mmmhmmm, my beloved KILOGRAMS at 23:43 - now I can "feel" it!

@whoismario 2 года назад

Great job as always. Btw did you put a weight in the driver’s seat equivalent to your weight when you were corner balancing?

@Tommydco 2 года назад

Fortune Auto evo 7,8,9 coilovers are a direct bolt up to yoshi fab camber plates just fyi

@XboxUnitD77 2 года назад

I wanted to ask for a more detailed explaination of strut angle. Do you want the "camber" plates maxed towards the inside of the car? Or is that dependant on your siuation and what the car does? Is more always better? What happenes if I go too far with it? My PT has BC coilovers and when I got my alignment by a friend on a rack, he wimped out adjusting everything by the camber bolts i told him to use and just knocked one of the camber plates a bit to even out the camber. I know I need to actually take the time for corner balancing and legitimately adjusting the damping, but I'm a bit too far out of my element to adjust suspension. I know all the theory and angles and adjustability, but I don't know how much to adjust and what every combination feels like. Suspension 305: Dailing in Coilovers, please?

@emanuelrivera7226 2 года назад

Hell yeah. Coffee, smoke and Jafro!

@juddlewis9939 2 года назад

I’m also attempting to get something to handle that no one that I know of has tried to a second gen Mitsubishi scorpion (Mitsubishi sigma coupe 2door )

@edgarsreinholds5931 2 года назад

Ground Control camber plates might have worked... They do custom too... They made custom koni coilovers independent adjustments.... 1.6 60ft all day

@Hades2Eros 2 года назад

@32:13 I'd use Teflon tape but given the diameter and thread count it'd be a pain. Other than Congrats man.

@jbkltc4469 2 года назад

32:11 just glue in a small magnet into the black aluminium head, so that it sticks to the steel nut below

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I was just going to drop a Bucky ball down the hole. :D

@pol3w4z 2 года назад

I think elantra uses mirage base suspention geometry, so mirage coilovers would work with adjustible camber plates maby??

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

Nah, too short, and the knuckles are from an EXPO, not a Mirage due to the DSM axles. So I'd still have bump steer issues with a vertical strut. Plus the turbo DSM drivetrain is a bit heavier. I had bad luck with the Mirage struts on this one. I'm sure I'd have had better luck with mirage coilovers, but this was the perfect fit for this swap.

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I meant yes and no. It DOES share the mirage platform, but engine mounts moved around here, and there's a custom axle involved.

@pol3w4z 2 года назад

For weight can choose diferent springs. I used for lancer gti "mirage", spacewagon's "expo" hubs and 1g coilovers wirh adjustible plates, just redrill mounting holes to fit strut tower. Love your elantra build, and cant wait till you get back to mirage.

@thegoyanator3256 2 года назад

Mick Foley in the house! Where's socko?!

@benspeedschannel888 2 года назад

What is the Yellow car on your drive? Looks like a Suzuki Swift?

@VelocityLabs 2 года назад

25:13 If I didn't know any better, I would swear this is a timestamp of Rob Zombie.

@stephenevans7800 2 года назад

Woah the gsx!!!!!

@goodkill1 2 года назад

I wonder if you can make a corner balancing system where you can hook it up to hub dynos and launch it to see weight transfer under load

@TheJoecb 2 года назад

I signed up for your patreon and I get the emails and links to watch them. And I'm honored to be a small part of your support. But yesterday while on patreon it said I wasn't currently subscribed to your channel. What happened?

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

???? I don't know? Often times when people's CC expire they don't update their info. I know that Patreon doesn't lean on people to update it. They used to expect us do it for them. I sent 1 ever notice about this to people and decided I wouldn't do it anymore. At some point, they just started removing people if the transaction bounced. I find it ethically backwards to make creators resolve this. How does one expect creators to put a price on, or police gratuity? IMO, I'm lucky that so many people are interested in supporting what I do here. Gift horse dental exams are not on my list of priorities even if it affects my production.

@marcuscoster6529 2 года назад

You are going to have none or barely any preload on the coilovers, and also the car should never be leaving the ground. You don’t need to worry about using the entire thread of the nut, it’s already a fairly long nut. Just grind the nut down.

@WallaceRoseVincent 2 года назад

I think Hyundai should sponsor your channel. Also, as long as there is no risk to you ... if you had your own design for Hyundai (1st generation) suspension? I have an unmodified Hyundai Elantra (2nd generation) that has an awful suspension and a terrible positive camber problem. I'd buy a solution from you if you had one.

@70-457 2 года назад

Wait a minute... A rubber bushing that was meant to only center the strut holds the whole weight of one corner now? ...or am I missing something?

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I put the big washers back on it after the scene in Matt's garage because I figured the same thing out. They're in the final product.

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

You know what, the spring loads are backwards from what I was thinking when I put that washer on, so I ordered a 6" round to cut my own upper strut perches. Thanks for that. Yeah, the washer is useless, the bushing would separate the opposite way. It will most definitely hold long enough for me to figure out how to cut this round on a brake lathe and make my own.

@N037O 2 года назад

It's been a very long time since I've seen a 1G Elantra. Is the rear suspension similar to the Scoupe Turbo? VW MK4 or other car with similar divorced shock and spring suspension spring perches might do the trick.

@christophersmith6722 2 года назад

I think time lapse works better with a fixed camera reference. motion uneasiness on the part of the viewer with a moving camera

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I agree. Just trying to tell the whole story. I limited my human camera perspective to 400%, and cut most of the scenes where I was on my feet. I watch many other RU-vidrs who also do this, and though that sounds like justification, I feel the same way about it as you do. Camera crews just come with a paycheck and it's why we see it so often.

@Ronke01 2 года назад

Is that a Freedom Factory shirt?

@skylinefever 2 года назад

Nice work, ever encounter odd Mitsubishi powered Hyundai models not sold it in USA? Ever at least read about them? Nice torque wrench, what kind is it?

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

I want a Hyundai Pony. Edit: The pickup version. The wrench is a Snap-On ATECH3FR250B

@skylinefever 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile Thanks. I enjoy the channel and good luck with future odd projects.

@aneshramsaroop8436 2 года назад

With the amount of rust on those brake discs that car has been parked for a while

@VelocityLabs 2 года назад

19:28 Buttered Side Down 😂

@brainscan83 2 года назад

Jafro may i learn which spark plug did you use on 1.6 head? I used 1.6 head on 4g63T but i have phantom knock..

@andrewtrumbo983 2 года назад

@6:39 awe man that`s too bad

@stevo2jz 2 года назад

Question will a cd9a 4g63 out evo1 fit into a 1998 Mitsubishi colt please help 🙏

@nellyracer22 2 года назад

Isn’t the rubber bush in the Megan top mount now the only thing holding the spring in place?

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

Yes, and I'm working on this issue. It will hold fine for long enough for my solution to get here.

@nellyracer22 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile I’m sure it will, it would’ve pushed the bush out already if it wasn’t strong enough. A solid bush in place of the rubber one or a single piece retainer should do the job. You just need to find someone with a lathe and/or mill.

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

@@nellyracer22 Going for one piece. I found a DIY coilover part already made that might do it, but I ordered a 6" round 3" thick to make whatever I need if it doesn't.

@StanleyKubick1 2 года назад

the rears will fit somehow. if you know someone with a lathe, they might give you a hand

@tuckerprestridge559 2 года назад

Hey man I’ve seen your old DSM videos and saw you ran an eBay 20g I currently have an cxracing 20g and deciding weather to return it or mount it… what was your thoughts on it?? What’s the max power people get out of them or trap times? Might just pick up a hx35

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

HX35 is far more potent. Have experienced a cornfed AWD example myself. The CXRacing unit won't do that. It was a low-11 second car. I ran 12.28@121 on it with a 2g AWD, and a 13.0006@116mph with in a FWD Eclipstra. Probably good for 350whp max with the right set of combos. HX35's go up into the 5's with the right exhaust turbine housing.

@tuckerprestridge559 2 года назад

@@Jafromobile the hx car was low 11 or the 20g? And that was my thought was mid to high 300s glad to have an knowledgeable answer.

@Jafromobile 2 года назад

@@tuckerprestridge559 The HX was 11's easy. The 20g is 12-13 depending on the rest of the car. The difference between the fuel systems was night and day. You need lots of fuel and fuel line for 11's on for e85. You can get away with stock fuel stuff on the 20g with only minor mods (getting rid of restrictions and adding a high flow pump with a rewire).