Thank you. I’m getting so fed up with Webflow, but as a non-coder who hates Wordpress, I feel my options are limited. Increasingly, I just feel like a captive sucker while they keep raising their prices. It doesn’t feel good encouraging people into getting roped into using them.
Hello Samuel, thanks for sharing your experience, I learned a lot from your Webflow videos. I completely understand your decision to stop using Webflow, you are a full stack developer, obviously the tool will look incomplete at best, but for what it is, a no-code platform for web development, I think Webflow is pretty good. Also, Webflow has change the way they interact with the community, they no longer see the community as a part of marketing, but as part of education, so now they not only listen to the community but also modify their efforts based on community feedback. Is it perfect? and will they improve? I think nobody knows that yet, but I think Webflow is growing in the right direction to compete with similar platforms. And I think more than anything that Webflow is the no-code gateway drug to code.
Thank you. That’s great to hear. I’ve not been part of the community for a while. Let’s see how Webflow progresses. I’m just not a fan of its focus on visual design at the expense of poor web development practices.
What would you recommand for a designer to use when working with developers? I have tried Nicepage but the code is not the best, I guess which doesn't matter to a good developer anyways because they just need design and layout and sizes from me and other assets and they rewrite anyway so I just need a good prototyping tool. I do have Pinegrove but only played around with it. I understand bootstrap pretty well and I have used CSS for years its the jQuary stuff that I am not great at. Thanks!
With all do respect just give them a design in Figma. Don’t try to build the website yourself using these tools as (as you’ve already mentioned) they’d rebuild it themselves anyway. You’re limiting yourself designing using these website builders.
Thanks for confirming that no-code tools still aren't up to scratch. I only started looking tonight after noticing folks on Twitter touting crazy profits via no-code tools. Hence finding your channel and finding out more... I don't get how they justify it with both accessibility and lack of scalability (amongst other stuff). I'll stick with React, thanks for saving me from going down the no-code rabbit hole 👍
Glad to have informed you! It’s ridiculous really but I admire the empowerment these people are given. Check out Pinegrow. To me this gives me both the benefit and speed of no code as well as the flexibility to “write” the code I want. React is good but obviously not good for SEO so you might find a place for both tools
@@webflowandcode React is not good for SEO if used in a naive, client-side fashion. But Next JS and similar address all the 'standard' SEO issues by making React more of a full-stack thing -- html loads server, not client side.