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I 3D Printed a LiquidPiston Engine, and it Sounds Incredible!! 

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In this video, I complete my year long journey to 3D print a proper, compact, high performance liquid piston engine. The design uses no valves, only ports and the alignment of the rotor to control airflow in and out of the chambers. And you bet I got it working this time around.
I also improve my dynamometer setup to collect data at higher engine speeds, and I'm able to successfully run all 4 engines on the setup to compare peak performance as well as get a vague idea of efficiency.
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First Prototypes - 2:32 - 5:45
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Fixing the dyno - 6:49 - 8:32
Dyno testing engines - 8:32 - 10:03
Apex seal issues - 10:03 - 11:10
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LP dyno and outro - 13:17 - 14:12
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@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
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@agn855
@agn855 Год назад
@3DprintedLife - would love to see this project been supported by: www.youtube.com/@ThisOldTony …and/or www.youtube.com/@TechIngredients
@reypolice5231
@reypolice5231 Год назад
I saw that 3D Max sells a diamond nano particle infused filament for printing. It's stronger and self lubricating. Hope it helps.
@hamasmillitant1
@hamasmillitant1 9 месяцев назад
have you considered a separate air intake on each chamber? because its going to be working almost entirely on preasure if you fire it in the top/bottom if you fire it in side of each chamber you also have air speed/friction driving it. also if you make a electric control valve where the 3 pipes split that holds one pipe open 1 closed and 1 pressurized you can create variable pressure with lower pressure in the 'far chamber' further reducing resistance if you wanted to make a mechanical valve instead you could make something like a disk with a 2 tesla valves inside it arranged in opposite directions arranged so they always line up with 2 of 3 tubes while third one meets flat disk/is closed, that way youd have a pressurized intake some resistance on out take but still a outtake without it just blowing pressure out a release valve/into air and you could just spin the disk at differnt speeds to change the speed of motor with a fixed pressure source (youd want to make sure the outtake path was 2 or 3 times smaller than the intake though even using tesla valve if going to recycle the air/pressure just to get a high enough difference that it dosnt feed air down both particularly at high pressures. alternatively you could have the exhaust valve just blow out side of housing into air which is simpler probably, but you wont be able to maintain pressure/operation for long that way (you might have to have a feeder line from the outtake join directly into side of the main tesla intake valve, but ive never seen that done/dont know if its possible to feed one tesla valve into the side of another's without interrupting its flow)
@davidstafford4873
@davidstafford4873 Год назад
Something is screaming at me "go bigger'. Not huge(yet), but larger so that little leaks won't matter as much. Also wanted to note to anyone reading, The amount of time to do this is staggering. Congratulations to you for having the persistence to stick with it. Great work my man!
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
Appreciate it! And yeah there's definitely an optimal scale here that could make things easier and I intentionally kept it small because I enjoy the challenge, but going a bit bigger would probably have helped and could have saved me some time haha!
@markwhelan1652
@markwhelan1652 Год назад
MORE POWER!!!!! Tim Taylor 2022
@FilosophicalPharmer
@FilosophicalPharmer Год назад
“Invention is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.” - T. Alva Edison
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl Год назад
@@FilosophicalPharmer Which is to say that Edison thunk on his feet versus Tesla's ability think designs thru to near completion prior...
@stuartodell1709
@stuartodell1709 Год назад
More like a lot of tenacity!
@alexglaras5090
@alexglaras5090 2 года назад
Add a little acetone and the piston will really be liquid!
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
hahh no no no bad idea!
@metaforest
@metaforest 2 года назад
@@3DprintedLife acetone polishing is a useful technique.
@gadlicht4627
@gadlicht4627 2 года назад
Better yet combust acetone and air mixture inside for extra power !! All you have to do is pump in one hole that mixture put it over flame that heats housing to that temperature do it combusts inside chamber and get good life insurance Last very important
@techstuff9198
@techstuff9198 Год назад
@@gadlicht4627 No such thing as good insurance, especially for experimenters.
@gadlicht4627
@gadlicht4627 Год назад
@@techstuff9198 it’s joke
@SpecialEDy
@SpecialEDy 2 года назад
More Flywheel mass. I built a double acting single cylinder steam engine that ran on compressed air, so the stroke in both directions were powered. It would get caught at TDC or BDC and wasn't very smooth or reliable. I added a 5lb metal plate from an old exercise set to the crankshaft, and it made it run like butter. The greater the rotational inertia of the flywheel, the smoother the engine will run. The other thing, is Cam timing. Steam engines have very clever linkages to control the advance of the valve action. It makes a huge difference in high and low rpm realms. Car engines are running between 600-6000rpm usually, so the valve timing only needs to appropriately cover a 10 times range. Since you need to go from a couple of RPM to hundred or thousands of RPM, you will need a much broader range of advance control. Im not sure how that works with a Rotary, but if you had a way to delay the intake action at startup, and advance it as rpms rise, itd make for a much better performing engine. Classically on piston steam engines, this was dont with a hand lever that cantilevered the linkage between the camlobe and valve body, but it should be possible to do it automatically with a governor. As the engine spools up, a set of spring loaded weights are swung out which push the assembly up or down, or, the governer is on a helically splined shaft, as rpms increase and centrifugal forces increase, the governor climbs up or down the helical teeth which alters the valve timing. If you google some old steam engine setups, you'll see how gorgeously simple the contraptions that the intellectual giants of the past pioneered are. Just seeing a few examples is all it takes to have the knowledge to design your own clever governed advance.
@markwhelan1652
@markwhelan1652 2 года назад
Yea, what he said. You need that mass to drive it over center. Just like a car engine's idle with a performance cam.
@ghostlyninja125
@ghostlyninja125 Год назад
@@markwhelan1652 the engine has such little torque though, he had to increase airflow to make it work.
@PBMS123
@PBMS123 Год назад
1:13 Just fyi as someone who uses onshape about 8+ hours a day for work I think it should be noted that, although Onshape it might be Cloud based, it does run in the cloud, whilst there are add-ons for simulation and FEA to be run on the cloud, as cloud compute; the CAD itself is not, it runs in your browser, but your computer hardware is still be used. There is a system check function you can do to check how good your system is. So a faster more powerful machine will be better than a $200 chromebook. Also there are plenty of features that have been promised to onshape users over 8 years ago, and they still have not been made.,
@edwardpaulsen1074
@edwardpaulsen1074 Год назад
Indeed, I used Onshape a few times over the years and there are still several promises they have not kept, along with a few things that WERE beneficial that they removed... While I can appreciate some of the ease and accessibility, there is still the "cloud" based nature of the product... meaning that it is insecure, reliant on the primary server remaining active, virtually useless when internet connection is lost or gets sketchy, and other factors outside of your control or influence. I have not yet found a really good program that is easy to use, relatively cheap, and solves many of these issues... the last really good one (although more expensive) that came close was Autocad 2016 before they enacted their horrible "subscription" service. I avoid ALL cloud based or subscription services like the plague! Yes, the other ones have their own drawbacks or obstacles, but I can keep working on my laptop without ANY internet connection or dependencies other than power.... I also maintain my OWN copies of any work within my own system (along with very regular backups) for full privacy and ownership of my designs. Smart people will only get burned *once*...
@Mrshotshell
@Mrshotshell 2 года назад
"As powerful as it is reliable" Just like a real rotary engine
@edstar83
@edstar83 2 года назад
62 likes..what a bunch of Wankels.
@hahahano2796
@hahahano2796 Год назад
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
@juhotuho10
@juhotuho10 Год назад
unreliable*
@canonicaltom
@canonicaltom Год назад
@@randellsmith7651 No, they're still a joke.
@aoyuki1409
@aoyuki1409 Год назад
@@canonicaltom in terms of simply power to weight ratio, power to size ratio, and power to complexity ratio, combustion rotary engines are no joke at those. however no one can deny the issue of temperature gradient (since hot gas is on one chamber and exhaust is in diff chamber and intake is in diff chamber causing the chambers to have different temperature that warps the engine and cause inefficiency) and the apex seal issue. which is what the liquid piston engine wants to fix. tldr: the only thing bogging down a Rotary engine is its unreliability. its power and efficiency is the real deal. liquid pistons aim to tackle the unreliability issue.
@edcofu
@edcofu 2 года назад
The idea to use paint to verify the air path is genial.
@bruhmania7359
@bruhmania7359 2 месяца назад
do you mean genius?
@kaedkay2472
@kaedkay2472 2 года назад
The master returns! Brother, I have been checking your channel basically every week for the last few months in hope that you posted some more incredible content!
@Lucas_sGarage
@Lucas_sGarage 2 года назад
Bigger intake o-rings and a flywheel are a must
@nathantripp9134
@nathantripp9134 2 года назад
God, I love R&D. Thanks for the video! Always inspirational.
@OtherDalfite
@OtherDalfite 2 года назад
Really crazy. Congratulations on the success!
@BirdbrainEngineer
@BirdbrainEngineer 2 года назад
Awesome video! A word of caution for future, if you ever get into sustained loads with a prony break based dynamometer - it gets HOT, and fast. With my electric motor power measurements, the thing that eventually exploded my prony break was that the PLA started to expand due to heat, and eventually even melted, which causes more friction and consequently the applied load goes up exponentially. At one point, either the motor/engine stops or the prony break has a rapid disassembly.
@joshuacaylor881
@joshuacaylor881 10 месяцев назад
Persistence pays off! Great job staying focused on seeing this project to completion
@PCBWay
@PCBWay 2 года назад
Welcome back & Wonderful content always 👍👍
@tylervanorman492
@tylervanorman492 Год назад
Great work, glad it turned out. Valuable lessons im sure.
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
For sure, thanks!
@CodeF53
@CodeF53 9 месяцев назад
I am excited to see you take this further.
@OnshapeInc
@OnshapeInc 2 года назад
Great work!!
@eduard_soul
@eduard_soul Год назад
All your videos are so nice, thanks for sharing 🙏🏻❤️
@Dangineering
@Dangineering 2 года назад
I have been waiting for this
@dylanevans5644
@dylanevans5644 Год назад
Super impressive stuff, you're videos really remind me of Stuff Made Here in the level you go to to achieve your goal.
@jokekelleey2071
@jokekelleey2071 Год назад
I think it's amazing that you can do a lot of research just on the computer like the wright brothers were the first ones to come up with the the wind chamber to test the aerodynamics of the wings and the propeller which is just as valuable as a plane flying
@theflipster733
@theflipster733 2 года назад
Keep it up!! Good job.!!
@rodjownsu
@rodjownsu Год назад
Nice work dude! Just found your channel today, there goes my whole afternoon now haha.. Seems like you don't have a compressor? Maybe you just enjoy the workout, if not, an old refrigeration compressor from a water cooler or bar fridge is a great source of high pressure air, and super quiet too! Keep the awesome videos coming! Thanks!
@Reach3DPrinters
@Reach3DPrinters 2 года назад
WHOA!!! nice work man!
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@nachumtwersky7206
@nachumtwersky7206 2 года назад
The goat is back! Regards from nachosprinter!
@Y1trus
@Y1trus 2 года назад
And he posts again. Finally I can watch his new vid let’s goo
@siffoine
@siffoine 2 года назад
This is a real insight to how Mazda works as a company. Not the why, but the how.
@StefanReich
@StefanReich Год назад
You seem really knowledgeable
@Bomba388
@Bomba388 Год назад
May want to try the ceramic anti spatter spray instead of the Teflon tape. I believe it is a Teflon based spray, and I know it works as a lubricant.
@MrRadicalMoves
@MrRadicalMoves 2 года назад
So I've got a wacky one for you. You may have seen the pentagonal rotary engine floating around on the innerwebs. Supposedly it is a motor that was used on a Russian torpedo or something like that? Anyways, I have designed an engine based off of Integza's rotary, which was based off your rotary anyways. I liked his idea of using the first air expansion to feed the second air expansion on the Wankel, so I used that idea to make my pentagonal rotary. With the 5 sided rotor, the final exhaust pulse actually happens around the same time that the first intake stroke happens on the main air intake. So basically it has 4 expansion chambers feeding off of the original intake chamber. In theory it should be able to take advantage of a LOT of the energy of the expanding air. I could never get it to work with the original idea of the gear though as the gear ends up being so small that its basically unusable, however, flipping it around like you did hear MIGHT be the way to make this work that I never thought of! I have done all the math and could share the design if you like. Might save you some time if you wish to take on the challenge of the first ever 5 sided rotary air engine!
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
Interesting idea, hopefully you are able to get it working! Personally I think I'm done with air engines for a while hah
@innacrisis6991
@innacrisis6991 Год назад
Damn, this is a really interesting idea. Do you have a link to any of this? It'd be great to have a look
@Dovorans
@Dovorans 2 года назад
I wonder if you could make turn a liquid ring pump into a engine. It might be easier to because you only have to worry about the rotor face.
@lonniemcgallion
@lonniemcgallion Год назад
Love watching your video. On this build, why not install the intake on the side of the piston housing at an angle instead of going through the top so the pressure pushes directly against the side of the piston?
@haphazard1342
@haphazard1342 2 года назад
Very cool!
@mr_shrib
@mr_shrib Год назад
I FUCKING LOVE ONSHAPE
@jirkasvitil2762
@jirkasvitil2762 2 года назад
for channell called 3DprintedLife you have some hardcore 3D printer debugging skills. But good work on the engine. PS amazing production quality, I like the scripting and the flow of the video.
@bnblasercleaning
@bnblasercleaning Год назад
Use compressed air behind the apex seals to apply a much stronger pressure?
@coilgunhacks6211
@coilgunhacks6211 2 года назад
I instandly spotted the Hibiki. Good taste my friend 👍
@JoeBlow-zr2ru
@JoeBlow-zr2ru 11 месяцев назад
Instead of springs, could you use air pressure to behind the rotor seals? As a bonus, the contact pressure would scale with the operating pressure.
@gabedarrett1301
@gabedarrett1301 Год назад
1:10 "the Google docs of CAD" is a description that couldn't be more accurate 😂
@nigelsnell9770
@nigelsnell9770 Год назад
? Have you tried over lapping the port openings so that the next inlet starts opening before the previous one fully closes., If say, previous chamber opening is 3/4 open, then the next chamber will be 1/4 open, ditto, 1/2 -1/2, ditto 1/4 - 3/4. Theoretically (in my head that is), you should be maintaining a constant pressure flow. And therefore hopefully, not locking up the rotation, which is what it appears to be doing. I could be wrong, but I think it might be worth a try.
@markwhelan1652
@markwhelan1652 2 года назад
At 6:10 of the video during the flow animations you are losing alot of efficiency 5-10% when your airflow makes the first drop and then again when it runs into itself before it exits. You need to refine these points taking into consideration your fluid dynamics. Reconfigure the ports more like you would for actual fluid instead of air. Your getting what's pretty close to a liquid lock with the flexible materials at the beginning and end of the "strokes".
@rusted-iron4360
@rusted-iron4360 Год назад
would it be possible to add candle wax inside the chamber to seal up the gaps between the plastic printed threads, then scrape off any exess?
@pauljs75
@pauljs75 2 года назад
It's an inverted Wankel. Neato. I figure it still has the same issues if it were used for internal combustion. (Still needs the equivalent of apex seals, even though now they're on the stator part.)
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
Yeah most of the same issues, apex seals are a little easier since they are stationary instead of on the rotor but other parts of the engine are more complicated due to the inverted design.
@PBMS123
@PBMS123 Год назад
Lots of small Liquid Piston engines have been made, and are sold as ICE drone engines.
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 2 года назад
Respect for your patience! 👍 And we can see why this silly design will never amount to much commercially, despite their outlandish claims. Real world engines are based on good sealing and good wear/rebuild performance.
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
The power to size/weight ratio is quite a feat, but yeah getting these as reliable as standard piston ICE's is never going to happen. There still may be a niche market for compact combustion engines like this though.
@JamesHarbal
@JamesHarbal 2 года назад
The guy is trying to 3d print an already working wrll in real world engine. Its not the engine design of the real world engine, its the 3d printed version designed by this youtuber that is not working and unreliable.
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 2 года назад
@@JamesHarbal yes I understand that. I'm a professional designer and I have looked at the "real" engine videos. I have also built a few high performance gasoline engines over the years. There is a reason we dont all drive around with rotary gasoline engines... because they are borderline at best and an unreliable dumb idea at worst.
@vladkruglov7719
@vladkruglov7719 Год назад
Now we can compare the possible work done by this VS conventipnal rotary and much more, what if we could change port opening size similar to a carburator opening?
@arnearne12345
@arnearne12345 2 года назад
now the question is can it outperform an air driven vane rotor? the standard for air tools
@arnearne12345
@arnearne12345 2 года назад
@sourand jaded oh yeah that's for sure easiest way to get A LOT of mass going with high reliability is pistons but it is as you said rather expensive for general use so the common motor for air tools is what's interesting to beat here pistons are just unbeatable in the category
@jozefnovak7750
@jozefnovak7750 8 месяцев назад
Super!
@MisterFizz
@MisterFizz 11 месяцев назад
How did the the terminology 'liquid piston' get coined? It doesn't seem to be descriptive of this tech. I was just wondering.
@scooble
@scooble 7 месяцев назад
Is the fluid simulation also done in OnShape?
@elitewolverine
@elitewolverine Год назад
So I am looking at your onshape design (fellow onshape user her love it) and I see that you are trying to seal intake port as part of the housing. In the original liquid piston the intake port is sealed by the apex seal as it moves from chamber to chamber. And uses spark to ignite of course. What if you moved the intake seal into the shaft itself instead. Sort of like a sliding valve in the old days. This would take it off the piston outer wall, and move it into the shaft where you can control the seal or leak of air outside of the piston. So any leaks can be over come, because the piston isn't the leak just the shaft, which has no bearing on the function of the expansion of the housing. You could probably do this with a lobe or screw like design where the screw in shaft. Either way this will solve your valve leak. In fact if i have an idea already in mind how this would look... If you really wanted to mimic the 'explosion' of the combustion cycle, put a magneto timer on the shaft, and instead of running a spark, it runs an electronic air valve to open, mimicking the spark. There will be no valve seals needed, since the pneumatic valve only opens when it passes the magneto. As well this will let you run on bursts and pulses instead of requiring constant flow through the chambers.
@lonniemcgallion
@lonniemcgallion Год назад
Lol I'm by no means a genius, just wanted to know. Thanks and please keep the video coming.
@truckingpix
@truckingpix Год назад
fascinating!!!
@stonedyeet2675
@stonedyeet2675 Год назад
As someone who both uses Onshape, and is highly interested in making a rotary engine; I find this video very helpful. I would like to know how you designed it though as I have yet to figure out the right tools for doing so. What tips would you give and what features made this possible?
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
For designing it, you can download a spur gear generator plugin to generate the gear teeth more easily. Use boolean subtraction operations to make the ring gear on the housing side. For the geometry of the rotor and housing, you could go with the formula driven curves but I kept it simple using a few tangent curves since at this scale and with the tolerances of 3D printing it doesn't matter as much. The last tricky part was figuring out how to constrain the assembly so the rotor moved correctly, I was able to use the gear relationship on the cylindrical mate of the rotor for that with a ratio of 0.5 (or 2, depending on your order of mates)
@wktodd
@wktodd 2 года назад
Nice 8-) Although, that engine is probably more accurately described as a Cooley engine since John F Cooley patented the basic design in 1903 . Interestingly the better known Wankel engine is a sort of inverted version of this design, in that the rotor shape of the cooley becomes the stator shape of the Wankel and the Wankel's rotor is a triangle joining the contact points if the seals . The Cooley, has been 'reinvented' many times 8-)
@tsclly2377
@tsclly2377 Год назад
MOTOR.. are you going to advance to a air power regulated through what would be the three ignition points?
@Th3laughingman
@Th3laughingman Год назад
i got a weird feeling integza jacks ideas from u
@nicklebeezy
@nicklebeezy 2 года назад
Great video! One question, wouldn't the output be approximately 15psi for atmosphere at sea level rather than 0? I'm not sure if you'd include that or not 🤷‍♂️.
@H34...
@H34... 2 года назад
The simulation cares about pressure differences, i.e a pressure difference of 60 (60-->0). Notice when you have release the pressure in a tank, the gauge will read zero, rather than 15, this is because they too work off pressure differences. So if it says 60 psi, there is a difference of 60 psi between where the tank and the ambient pressure outside.
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
What this guy said!
@ahmedhamli8252
@ahmedhamli8252 Год назад
Bro im just concerned if it is possible to use the triangular rotor and modify it to a liquid piston
@tedshred8436
@tedshred8436 7 месяцев назад
have you checked out Inegza's version?
@albertoemanuelacevescolin8310
You should try using laser-cut acrylic
@db345t
@db345t Год назад
question, if you were to drive this with a drill what would be the intake psi versus the output pressure? could it pull a vacuum or run as compressor?
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
I don’t know what the pressure would be but yes it could absolutely pull a vacuum
@fanlou1698
@fanlou1698 2 года назад
Super glued to avoid super lub leaks!!! 😂
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
Hey, whatever works!
@pulsefel9210
@pulsefel9210 Год назад
an interesting idea especially if you can get it to larger size. could it be a matter of size where a larger model could allow better flow?
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
I think it would get worse actually, the intake port would scale in 2 dimensions while the air needed to fill the chamber would scale in 3. But I may not be thinking about that correctly
@t_c5266
@t_c5266 Год назад
You could have employed ardruino's "interrupt" feature to get your encoder to read at something like 2 mega-hz
@afiefsholichuddin
@afiefsholichuddin 2 года назад
Why don't you use graphite as a lubricant like you did on the previous engine like what integza doing too?
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
Good question! I use ptfe grease because the thicker grease actually helps to compensate for irregularities in the parts and seals, so it provides better sealing and allows the engine to be more efficient, though a bit slower.
@ghostlyninja125
@ghostlyninja125 Год назад
What about sloped intake ports? so that air can slowly feed in air to the new port as the "piston" rotates. By sloped i mean make a channel that slopes into the intake from the surface of the "piston"
@ghostlyninja125
@ghostlyninja125 Год назад
The only issue then is sealing it, would be more difficult, so maybe try some kind of silicone? u could just shape it on a paper template, peel it off then add it to a slot on the rotor.
@aoyuki1409
@aoyuki1409 Год назад
i think several improvements can be made with the engine. 1) make the entire design slightly larger in size so that tolerances would have less effect on the overall system. maybe 40-50% bigger should do the trick 2) add a flywheel since the engine seems to be choking 3) maybe try acetone treated PLA or polished resin to further reduce the friction coefficient 4) bigger air supply, or perhaps combustion but i think we're still far away from combustion engines. lets stick to pneumatics for safety and practicality for now. maybe try those 16 litres bottles at 50-60 psi but im not sure if those bottles can handle that much pressure. The walls seem thicker tho. Also get an air pump unless you wanna get your arms very ripped from all that muscle juice 5) if possible, control so that the air only goes into the system when the intake ports are near the holes so that less air pressure is wasted just being turbulent or leaked. since you're pretty good with electronics maybe u can go digital instead of cams. however im not sure if the benefit will overcome the drawback of pressure drop from having another valve. 6) integza has been using graphite powder to lubricate the insides of his engine design so perhaps if you can get hold of some graphite powder it might prove to be better than teflon tapes. you also wont have to deal with flying grease anymore. 7) that paint idea from your wife was brilliant. maybe using that method more often for debugging would help in future prototypes
@elifast1
@elifast1 2 года назад
Nice
@maxmustermann9587
@maxmustermann9587 Год назад
This pump reminds me of the Vankel Engine.
@Zephyr8086
@Zephyr8086 2 года назад
What sort of case is your computer in? I thought it looked great!
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
It's very very custom, built it from scratch!
@brytonmassie
@brytonmassie Год назад
Hey, I mainly work with Onshape to create 3D models for my job, how exactly did you make the parameters of the engine's sidewalls dependent on the path of the rotor? F in chat for your printer, but hey if you're trying to make things with such tight tolerances you really should be looking towards using larger parts using only resin and replacing any wear point with low tolerance bearings as resin can achieve much smoother and flatter surfaces just because each layer is printed all at once, they also shouldn't wear to much as they're generally a less abrasive material.
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
I just approximated the curve using a few arcs, which was fine for this scale and 3D printing. I’m not positive if Onshape allows you to generate splines using formulas but that would probably be the best way to do it
@nathanbrennan5272
@nathanbrennan5272 2 года назад
Why is this called piston, not rotary ? Very nice video!
@Flare-nd
@Flare-nd 2 года назад
its the company name
@FoxSock
@FoxSock Год назад
ive got a really bad air engine model lol, if i send the files do ya thing you may be able to test it?
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
Sorry I don't think I have time for that, I've got a lot of other projects on my plate!
@ck-fz8zy
@ck-fz8zy Год назад
What is the source of power here? Using pumped air to create rotational movement - like a Turbo in a automotive engine?
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
Yes compressed air, but unlike a turbo which acts as a turbine converting a continuous flow of air into rotation, this engine uses a small amount at a time and allows it to expand in the chamber to create the rotation. In that sense, it acts closer to a normal combustion engine, but the act of compressing and combusting the fuel is simplified and replaced with already compressed air ready to expand!
@vivigarr
@vivigarr Год назад
I want to make a metal one when I get a mill. I'd love to have a 50cc engine to put on my moped and it still be legal.
@fuxaplexlegends9028
@fuxaplexlegends9028 Год назад
I would say you need more torque on the flywheel. Looks like there is not enough momentum stored to get you through the rotation
@kihgu
@kihgu Год назад
what is the paperclip thing at 0:30?
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis Год назад
It sounds like your port timing isn't quite right, possibly inlet closing too late or exhaust opening too late?
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
yeah it definitely is not perfect, but also sucks that it can't automatically advance timing as the engine rpm rises so need to balance starting ease with running efficiency. I really like the sound of it though with this timing so at least there's that!
@mafiosomax7423
@mafiosomax7423 2 года назад
I never really understood these power meters. I assume the torque is set according to how tight you tighten the screw on the axial shaft. Wouldn't that mean however that you only tested the engines on a specific torque? There would be a different result in total work measured if you applied a different torque. So the comparison between different engine designs seems sketchy to me as you don't know which torque works best for each engine.
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
Yep you're exactly right, and it's not ideal. I've thought of adding a servo to have variable torque on the bar, but with my limited air supply there's no sense since it would run out of air before even needing to adjust torque.
@mafiosomax7423
@mafiosomax7423 2 года назад
@@3DprintedLife Okay that makes sense. Maybe you could instead test the engines for different torques each. It would be more work but might yield interesting results.
@nudelauflauchhd2200
@nudelauflauchhd2200 Год назад
what cad programm do you use
@FoxDog1080
@FoxDog1080 Год назад
I SAW COFFEE I'M SUBSCRIBING
@mickgibson370
@mickgibson370 2 года назад
The piston as it expand, so be having air to it constantly! The piston when it contracts, so be having air constantly to the exhaust! So there are three intakes and three exhaust! You should be able to turn the motor, and it be able to pump water!
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
Since the intake and exhaust ports are on the rotor, I actually only need two of each. They move from chamber to chamber to intake and exhaust air. But you're right, it could work as a pump!
@johnalogue9832
@johnalogue9832 2 года назад
I can't decide if the conclusion of this video says anything at all about the value of the LP design or just the value of putting lots of work into a 3D printed air engine to improve the seals and friction.
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
Perhaps a little of both. Seals on rotary engines will always be way more difficult than piston engines, whether you're building miniature pneumatic versions or full size combustion versions!
@SullySadface
@SullySadface Год назад
Why not just print the moving printable parts out of teflon or similar low friction material?
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 2 года назад
Try injecting a bit of non-Newtonian fluid into the airstream so that it does its firmness trick at the points where the air is accelerating/leaking.
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
That's an interesting idea for sure!
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 2 года назад
@@3DprintedLife It's my "compromise idea", because I didn't think you'd be ready to accept that Vaseline is a terrible lubricant/sealant for a high-speed/Low-torque application, and mineral oil would have a high loss rate (and your test environment isn't really appropriate for aerosolized mineral oil).
@simona625
@simona625 Год назад
One of the other youtubers used pencil lead for lubrication, maybe you could try that approach....
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
I've tried dry lubricants in the past, the dust is very messy and easily gets airborne. I'd prefer dealing with grease or oil :)
@thewhitedillard
@thewhitedillard Год назад
what 3D CAD application is being used here? anyone know? thanks.
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife Год назад
Onshape! They do sponsor me but I’ve used the software since well before that, it’s very versatile and free for home use!
@maspintarjualan5405
@maspintarjualan5405 Год назад
The last iteration seems to work just by the air pressure itself
@stingraymaster877
@stingraymaster877 2 года назад
Bro you should check out Axel Daytons videos about his air engines, they seem to work well
@user-eb6ys3ub9l
@user-eb6ys3ub9l 9 месяцев назад
This is one tak engine ?
@kellyaquinastom
@kellyaquinastom Год назад
astron aerospace omega 1! Maybe no dead spot. Or add flywheels.
@shlushe1050
@shlushe1050 Год назад
Consider getting a program called SimpleDyno, then you won't need to use a prony brake at all, just a tach and know the moment of inertia of your flywheel
@GoPaintman
@GoPaintman 2 года назад
The Quadrature encoder with 600 pulses per revolution wasn’t accurate enough?
@3DprintedLife
@3DprintedLife 2 года назад
It was too accurate! There's a limit to how many pulses per second the encoder can output, and with such a high resolution it can hit this limit at a pretty low speed
@user-gk8gg1zt7l
@user-gk8gg1zt7l Год назад
Good video, like
@theFLshark
@theFLshark Год назад
Looks like you played a game of Cincinnati Time Waste. 😂
@zeustro3
@zeustro3 Год назад
Awesome project. maybe you'll add a flywheel to it.
@jokekelleey2071
@jokekelleey2071 Год назад
Likewise the person that discovered the light bulb there's a lot of other things that have to go along with the light bulb like a power source and a wire and a switch
@reviewaccount469
@reviewaccount469 10 месяцев назад
Does it maybe need a flywheel? Make a 3 rotor and add a flywheel.
@falin9557
@falin9557 Год назад
try a V2 90º with wide pistons and short stroke
@madeinnewyork87
@madeinnewyork87 Год назад
You should double stack the motor and have top dead centers opposite of each other.
@Greatdome99
@Greatdome99 11 месяцев назад
Not opposite but at 90 degrees from each other. There IS a bottom dead center too.
@madeinnewyork87
@madeinnewyork87 11 месяцев назад
@@Greatdome99 Why 90?
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