I Adored Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 236... And Here's Why 

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I mean… you aren’t wrong thanks to the direct translation of the title.

It was really about the Jujutsu’s we Kaisened along the way

​@@alexoredola7942This was the comment I was hoping to see.

Against sukuna you can't argue anything because he went all out in sukuna. Any mental gymnastic is a cope BCS he didn't give a sh*t about Megumi. Last purple was intended to erase sukuna but sukuna being the Chad he is couldn't be erased

Apparently, as nanami said he just did all this Caring for fun, and he did not want to protect anyone, that's a character assassination right there

@@wtfogersyour either a troll or didn’t watch the vid. The same nanami who could never find humor or joy in the infinite loop that is the jujutsu world. The same nanami that believes children shouldn’t bear the burden of this jujutsu world. Ofc nanami would dismiss gojo as crazy and flippant since it’s partly true. Not only does gojo enjoy the thrills of this world but also gojo wants to leave the burden of the jujutsu world in the new generations hands. Gojos and nanamis viewpoints are almost opposite of each other but their on the same side and they both have good intentions. So through all these factors nanami can’t truly understand or relate to gojos ways of thinking

​@@wtfogers Did you not watch the video? A good half of it explains that's cap.

@@colt1903 sry, i was reading the comments, Didn't hear much from video but the point still stands that nanami said that after gojo said he had fun, and felt sry for sukuna like for what?? To feel sad for a genocide maniac just cause he couldn't reach him but not for the future of the students he have built this far in this world

People were gonna be mad regardless of who won/who loss, I trust in Gege to cook

Yeah it split something alright

Yup

Also split Gojo

@@guilha1506 that was the joke, yes.

AHHHHHH SUKUNAAAAA

I wonder what it says about Sukuna that he trash talks super hard during his fights even with opponents of high skill like Jogo and especially Gojo but once they are defeated he's much more compassionate to them and even giving of praise.

@@brysonpavlik9018 I think he does appreciate them for the challenge (bit of a stretch in Jogo's case) they gave him. Fighting and fighting capability are Sukuna's language and scale he uses to interact with people.

​@@brysonpavlik9018He admires people who actually try to challenge him. He shits on Yuji about why humans should not be happy, but admirers a human who challenged him, especially if they put off a good fight. Basically you shouldn't be living happily in my presence, either serve me or challenge me.

@@brysonpavlik9018 it feels very much like a “wow, you actually tried to fight me, which is basically a death sentence. I hope you had as much fun as I did; see you in the next life lmao”

My thoughts as well!

I feel the same way

For me as soon as I saw the Gojo won, I had a really bad feeling because I was suspicious of why gege was so headstrong in trying to convince the audience that Gojo won when Sukuna was still standing.

Agreed

Idunno if im alone but when i finished 235 and saw gojo smiling and saying he won i thought"oh he's definitely going to die bext chapter" then it happened

@@yosos2 you're not alone, this was exactly the same for me lol

Or maybe Sukuna was indeed not trying in the first place. Sukuna explained that he needed Mahoraga to adapt to Gojo's infinity and that Mahoraga's adaptation would speed up everytime he got hit. Which The implies that while Sukuna had the wheel on his head and bore the burden of adaptation, he HAD to get hit so that Mahoraga could adapt. This is why Sukuna took hits from Gojo. But the adaptation was not optimal for Sukuna so again he had to let Mahoraga get hit until a new adaptation was done. Basically Sukuna was forced to hold back and get hit because that was the only way he could win.

right. Yuta said something similar about Hakari being stronger than him to which Maki immediately interjected. Gege has shown that characters will say things in regards to their own power in relation to others that isnt true.

I mean, he didn’t even say Sukuna wasn’t trying. Just that he didn’t give it his all. It was Sukuna at like 90-95%

@@absurdwordslearns The thing is that gojo is one of the most egotistical charcters in the series. For him to say that, it has to be true to an extent. Yuta is one of the most humble characters in the mseries and we still dont know how a fight with them will turn out.

I highly doubt that Gege would make his characters say something if he wasn't trying to get the idea out that it was true. And Gojo never said Sukuna wasn't trying. He just said he was holding back, which makes sense if some of his techniques wouldn't be able to breach Infinity.

"No one understands me" - Gojo "Alright bet" - Nanami, Haibara, and half the fanbase

@@ShaKing807 those half of fanbase are kids ,since they need spoonfeeding

​@@Vaibhavgangwar2mmNanami is literally the most adult in the entire series

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hlnanami is an adult that doesn’t want to burden children to take the mantle. As he said before being an child isn’t a sin. That’s why nanami can’t get gojo purposefully putting his students in tough situations earlier in the series to help them grow. Nanami also can’t at all understand enjoying the cursed filled battle of this world like gojo and many sorcerers do. That’s why it’s said sorcerers need to be crazy to truly bear the role of a sorcerer

I think it's a good thing that so many perspectives can be drawn from this, it just shows that gojo is not a simple character and just like most human beings, he doesn't exist on a black/white scale. Because that was the point of this chapter at the end of the day. That nobody really "got" gojo, not even Gojo himself

It's bcoz ppl take the leakers crumbs instead waiting for English translation & reading the entire chapter

@@YeYe-ni7qy well we have a surface level-dimension of the strongest sorcerer of his time who wants challenging fights for fun. we have a dimension of a cheerful, goofy, immature teacher he uses with most colleagues and students to keep them at a distance. we have a lonely guy who couldn't save a lot of his close people despite his power. we have someone who wants to change the messed-up jujutsu system by guiding youth, partially because of the selfish reason of not being the only one to rely on, and partially because of a compassionate reason - he doesn't want them to go through the same his generation did. we have someone who struggles to find a genuine human connection since losing the only one he had because of his power. we have someone who's always struggled with his identity because it's always been connected to his title or clan but never with him as a guy named Satoru - the only times he experienced the semblance of that was in his school years. i can go on because he has quite a few dimensions to his character.

@@YeYe-ni7qy i'd say all of the things i listed tie to his storyline and soul. and i think his departure fits it too, just the pacing and the mood switch after the whole fight kind of screw it up. i think the culling game as a whole is too rushed but i still believe gege did a good job with gojo in general. at least for me, out of all characters, he was one the most interesting and not as straightforward as most of them. what do you mean by saying he's a schizo? like he has schizophrenia? because there is not a single symptom of that. or that he's just unhinged sometimes? he does have a few features of psychopathy but not enough to label him as one and tbf most jjk characters have features of psychopathy and/or antisocial personality disorder. it makes sense for this setting.

First of all..... Megumi wasnt interested in knowing about his father. Even Gojo didnt bother to tell him after that. Hence I can cut off that theory. Knowing 'about Toji' isnt such a big priority for Megumi considering the position he is in now. Is it that big of a deal that Gojo had to remind it himself even in the afterlife even when he and Megumi both decide they are better off not to discuss of it? In my opinion, I think its about Yuji's father. Gojo has a knack to investigate someone as special as Rika and even Yuta, so he probably did the same for Yuji. Knowing about Yuji's lineage is important in fact, considering he went to fight Sukuna.

Same honestly LOL

Idk why I think Nobara will somehow help Megumi out here. Like only SHE can.

Is it though? Jjk always shows how impactful deaths are to the people around them Geto and tojis death were instrumental for gojo to be gojo Nanami and geto were completely changed by haibaras death I feel like it really ruined the impact it was supposed to have on Yuji because everyone is just waiting on her to come back Remember jujitsu sorcerers are suppose to drop like flies At this point why even want her back? How are we supposed to believe she’s been training this whole time to scale up to everyone else now lmao

@@queenb2450 That’s the delusion I’m holding to as well :’)

@@insomniasessions5347 All very valid points but my problem with it all is that the examples you listed feel wrapped up, their arcs feel completely whereas Nobara had everything left wide open. Why have her mention that she’s beginning to get in touch with the soul incredibly similarly to how Gojo did vs Toji? Why is her death the only one left in limbo whereas everyone got super solid confirmation? Why set up her whole thing with Momo about jujutsu society and specifically the “beauty standards” of it all to not have it paid off with her coming back disfigured but it not effecting her performance? And then the storyline with her friend felt like it could’ve been fleshed out/explored more but I’m fuzzy on remembering all those details. I just don’t like that compared to Nanami, Geto, etc. we’ve been bread crumbed with Nobara and it feels like Maki kinda became her replacement (I say as someone who’s obsessed with Maki). We would be so up in arms over it if it wasn’t so open ended which sticks out like a sore thumb in a series with such conclusive writing when it comes to character deaths

It's called a ass pull

You’re free to have your own opinion but I disagree. This fight was from a mostly 3rd person perspective, jumping between the peanut gallery, Sukuna, and Gojo. If gege had kept it 100% Gojo’s perspective I’d have been fine with it, but since we’ve been seeing everything in the fight, removing the conclusion feels so unsatisfying

I disagree the transition was horrible and it's gonna look even worse when it's animated. Imagine ending the episode with gojo wining and the next episode he's just dead out of nowhere just for shock value.

@@ralphize5153 what conclusion are you talking about

Bluds gonna bust when he sees all the cast dead next chapter

Yeah after REALLY thinking about this chapter...and trust me, I haven't really been able to get this shit out of my brain for the sake of productivity, I have come to like it overall more and more. Liberating is the right word to describe Gojo's attitude. He finally found someone who could best him, which in doing so, let him relate with his very mortal long gone comrades in a way he didn't think he was able to before. This is vocalized in that dialogue where he states that he was happy he didn't pass from disease or old age. This all goes back to the concept of "love" that was stated by Yorozu, and reiterated later in the middle of the fight. Its a twisted and feral kind of love that only strong fighters can experience, and Gojo experienced just that upon his sudden passing.

@@redmangoose182 I completely agree, seeing him reunited with his best friend and comrades was the most human we have seen him in a long time, being able to hear what they thought of him and also reflect on his isolated existence and actions. What sealed the deal for me was him saying "I hope this isn't a dream" and the next panel was him smiling on the ground, i think he truly was content with how things turned out and found some sense of peace in his last moments. And Sukuna as well demonstrated some pretty human emotions telling him that he would never forget him, so I think in some way Gojo managed to connect with him in a mutual sense. Also it's pretty meaningful that the fight ended with Sukuna finding a way to get across the infinity that he had built up between him and everyone else, which was the symbol of his loneliness; meaning that in the end he felt like he maybe wasn't alone anymore. I originally couldn't imagine being satisfied with how the fight would end, but I can't imagine it ending in any other way now. It's tragic but it felt in line with everything we have seen of Gojo, I think it was tastefully done considering his massive role in the series.

@@redmangoose182 I like the way you worded that, and I agree it felt so bittersweet seeing Gojo finally connect with both his comrades and Sukuna himself. This chapter has been stuck in my head since Ive seen the leaks and man I am itching for the next chapter.

@@ivanoakmuskrat7843 Its pretty profound how Gege found such a perfect way to humanize him in the end. And wow I didn't think about Infinity being a metaphorical barrier that kept Gojo far from everyone. That's apt.

I felt the same. Gojo is free now.

I explained thoroughly why in my opinion it was completely consistent and in character. What are your thoughts on that explanation?

100% agree

How could Gojo call himself stronger if he lost?

To be honest I understand your frustrations but I think if you rewatch the fight the whole sequence is pretty consistent (sukuna does sukuna shit, gojo adapts and counters and rinse and repeat) so when gojo killed mahoraga I knew sukuna would do some sick shit(obv i didnt expect this). The whole idea of the fight has been if mahoraga adapts its an instant win for sukuna and gege took that literally its just we couldnt have expected that sukuna himself would use that adaptation itself to study it (although it was stated numerous times that a big part of sukunas genius is that he can instantly copy an attack by seeing it once and the fact that mahoraga uses slashing to attack when he adapts to gojo shouldve tipped us off). As for the 6 eyes I think gojo just honestly never couldve seen this coming throughout the whole fight he knew sukuna had a plan and wasnt trying his best but how could he have expect him to use mahoraga as a template so when the slash itself came although he saw it and registered it he probably thought limitless would just shrug it off and when it didnt he knew he lost

​​@@Aleczandxr Alecz I respect you IMMENSELY as a content creator, but my thoughts haven't changed. Gojo's entire life mission ever since losing Geto has been about changing the status quo in the Jujutsu World by fostering strong allies, but as we've come to learn he assumed the role of a mentor so that his wards wouldn't feel overwhelmed by the same loneliness that consumed Geto. He cherishes them thoroughly, so to not even bother reflecting on how his loss to Sukuna would impact them feels wrong to me. You said that Gojo wasn't bothered because he's confident in their ability, but the King of Curses is not an opponent that any other member of the cast can realistically hope to defeat and EVERY character in the story is painfully aware of this fact. They couldn't even defeat Kenjaku without his help; the majority of their actions during the Culling Games was centered around freeing Gojo from the Prison Realm, now that he's gone they are truly in their darkest hour. Gojo should not have been the least bit optimistic about their chances. Think of it this way: none of the main cast were on Gojo's level, so why would Gojo suddenly delude himself into thinking that they can defeat Sukuna AND Kenjaku who are in a stronger position than ever?

And then Gojo on to glaze Sukuna like he wasn't making him look like fried and was only struggling in the domain part, like "huh was you not paying attention?"

​@freddieadams8435 He was right though. Sukuna never used Black Box his original form, and we never got an explanation for his cursed technique. Sukuna didn't use his whole arsenal so by default he didn't go all out.

@@Cameron-qe7ilanything else he had clearly wouldn’t have done anything, Sukuna even admitted that Mahoraga was a guide for him to win, no ten shadows and he would have eventually lost in the domain clashes.

Ya’ll are to emotional right now. It’ll have to be explained later once things calm down.

I agree with everything you mentioned! If it weren't for Mahoraga, Gojo would have won since he already managed to hit Sukuna with inlimited void + he knocked him out with the black flash afterwards. I would've been fine with Gojo dying cuz Gege fucked up the story but at least keep his character and personality intact. That's even worse then killing him physically. Also what the hell is up with this second adaptation. Mahoraga had already adapted to the infinity. You're telling me he can adapt further and develop new cursed techniques to kill an opponent? 😂 Ok! Then what does the third adaptation look like? Does he delete the opponent from existence. Get the hell out of here Gege.

Yeah the pacing has been the most jarring thing these past several months. I can only hope that we get more scenes from during the timeskip. And I hope the anime will elevate the material better when and if the time comes.

I mean Gege has outwardly stated he doesn’t like Gojo at all I figured he was gonna die without it just being out of spite from Gege. I think his death is fine but I could’ve been even better if we got to see more of him before the fight.

I'm waiting for those Gojo flashbacks💯

I kind of got that impression, though I don't think it was really any worse than the breakneck pace the series has been going at in the culling game. I think all of JJK could benefit from down time to get to know the characters more personally, but for how the pacing has been, I think the whole fight and chapter were really good. Gege definitely wanted Gojo out, but he still wrote him perfectly in character and with plenty of respect imo. Still the best written character.

I love jujutsu kaisen a lot but this is certainly the one thing that has always bothered me when I read the whole manga back in 2021 to get up to date, there's not much space to breath. There's not enough time to expand and explore ideas and/or characters (by which I mean characters that go beyond the main cast like Geto's previous faction of sorcerers) and because of that it feels like an entire gamble to get invested into certain characters or plot points since I don't know if it's gonna go anywhere.

Gojo got one-shot. Sukuna didn't. That is all people need to know. Good day.

I agree with your overall view of Satoru embodying aspects of what Nanami accused him for while also being a kind-hearted individual; however, I feel it's worth addressing some of the points you made and hopefully elaborate on them with some extra nuance. 1. The first time gojo meets yuji he tells him to turn into sukuna without knowing if he can turn back: Satoru doesn't know 100% if Yuji can flip back and forth between Sukuna, but he DOES have an idea Yuji is capable of it. When he asks Yuji to make the switch, it's less about serving his ego trip (even though he finds the confrontation between him and Sukuna enticing) and way way way more about assessing the situation to determine whether he can make an argument for why Yuji should not be executed. 2. Feral gojo in shibuya. he's cracking smiles from excitement whilst masses of people have been slaughtered: He's definitely relishing in his ability to clown on Jogo and Hanami, but I don't think that comes at the expense of him neglecting the deaths of innocents. Satoru enjoys the idea of making Jogo and Hanami realize how weak they are, paralleling the way he would behave back in his younger days, but he very much still regards and is aware of the lives that have been lost; part of what's making him relish the fight (beyond his most basic thrill-seeking nature) is that he's pissed at the current circumstances bringing this about to begin with 3.The death of riko, he literally didn't care and was in a state of euphoria/ecstasy- He did care though; he only said that in the moment, he was incapable of grieving her due to all the sensory information placing him into such a state of ecstasy. The moment the high ended, he's hit with the intense grief of Riko's passing. That's not the same as not caring when the passing happened; that's just Satoru acknowledging that he's incapable of feeling anything else at the moment in his altered state of mind. If his consciousness was not being altered, he most certainly would have cared as demonstrated by his emotional state after killing Toji.

Absolutely, anyone who takes Nanami at his word there clearly doesn't understand Gojo or the series.

Why would he want praise from Sukuna? The man who took possession and is still in possession of Megumi's body. The man who tortured Yuji over and over and murders indiscriminately. Say what you want, but either Gojo is a psychopath with a split personality or he cares for his students. You can't both praise and respect Sukuna AND love Yuji & Megumi. They are not compatible. The fact that he felt sorry for Sukuna is even worse. No remorse for Megumi or Yuji? No praise saying he knows they will beat Sukuna. Just praise and sympathy for the murderous torture killer lol. Say what you want, this ruins his character. At the very least, it does not make him better than he was prior to the end of this fight. 🎉

@@Aleczandxr In the tcb gojo says “Hey principle!!! ‘Thought ya said no jujutsu sorcerer dies without regrets!” directly implying that he had no regrets and yaga was wrong

Whoops, sorry, I misread the double negative in the TCB scans! But yeah you’re correct, he does say that. I just see it as an extension of the stuff I talked about with Nanami though. He has never once (as far as I remember) not tried to counteract the idea that Nanami brought forth and he leans into that once more here. But he literally states his regrets earlier, so we know he has them. This is the Gojo that people think they know, that will never get to know him. He knows that, and I think he just leans into it because they’ll really never 100% know him. So he feels at peace with all the stuff I mentioned, and is comfortable with a somewhat superficial comfort and connection he feels. If that makes sense, sorry, but of a ramble lol. Also, he could have been talking about Nanami specifically not having regrets and contrasting that with himself.

​@@andrewa4745really i thought gojo was talking about how nanami died without regrets maybe i should reread it

I think if you take the last few chapters as gojos final attempt to show sukuna his "love" in the only way he knew how it hits harder. The result doesn't matter as much as the action of fighting itself, of experiencing that desperation and adrenaline that makes us all human, something that gojo had lost and was seeking to gain from this fight

@@log5531 oh I don’t mind the result all that much, I just think it’s structure is off by just a little. This fight being a way for Gojo to say to Sukuna that he knows what it feels like to be the strongest, is such a good way to connect both characters. This happening to Gojo isn’t the problem, it’s just some things in this chapter made some statements in the last few chapters (Sukuna being nervous in the last chapter despite seeing maho cut. It would have even been in his best interest to just desummon maho since Sukuna pulled it off in one attempt. Gojo rct output being back from black flashes, and if rct comes from the brain, can’t he heal himself?) feel redundant. Not really good about structuring this out, but I do wish some things were handled just a litttttle better is all.

Him being nervous is most likely due to not yet developing the ct all the while gojo ramping up in ce.

Agreed

Gojo’s line about losing to a a Sukuna without 10S needs to be looked at from his point of view. Sukuna had just cut him in half seemingly without help from Mahoraga, it makes sense for him to think that

Yeah i have no idea why he started to make the fight so one-sided after the domain clashes in Gojo's favour just to have him get off screen one shotted and have him admit that he might not even beat Sukuna without 10 Shadows. It doesn't look good, just make the fight a back and forth fight and this outcome wouldn't look so bad lol.

The only thing this fight was missing was some moment of overconfidence from Gojo and some moment of wariness like when Toji fought him. Gege went through all that effort to out Gojo in the Toji fit and couldn't have him express unease at what was cooking from Sukuna?

@@Elitist that kind of happened when Gojo thought he could lose and started remembering Toji

genuinely thank you for being one of the few people around who has an opinion i don't agree with but was totally reasonable about that. it sucks that it didn't work for you but i completely respect it coming from that angle

I thought the 2nd panel of his face where its just his mouth shown shows the edge of a smile if im remembering right

It's the last panel where sukuna says he'll never forget him. There's a clear smile there imo

No one knows what Sukuna is truly capable of. Sukuna won all his fights in the series by NOT using all of his kit.

Gojo's dead. At that point it wouldn't be confidence, but hubris, and acting like a sore loser. Sukuna won. Gojo knew Sukuna had a trump card, he knew he was making weird plays in order to make certain things work, and likely though the fight itself felt Sukuna was holding back elsewhere as well. Moreover I think it is a HUGE PRESUMPTION that Sukuna could only use Mahoraga to win. That was the TOOL he decided to use to SOLVE THE PROBLEM of infinity. That doesn't mean it was the only tool he had, it was just the one he chose...and it worked.

it wasn't stated that Sukuna didn't need 10S. Gojo only said that he doesn't know if he would've won vs. Sukuna w/o 10S. It makes sense, since Sukuna was dragging out the domain battles in order to get Mahoraga to adapt. If he wouldn't have done it, there's a chance that Gojo just gets his domain overwhelmed over and over again until his brain breaks and he would most likely have to use his full arsenal. Mahoraga was the optimal stategy but it was very dangerous and nearly killed him many times

How is that a lack of confidence? You have to be always selfish and commit to your own abilities, that's the message of the manga. But admitting you were beaten is normal, what you're asking is for Gojo to lie to himself and act like it was a tied battle he lost due to luck or whatever, but no, he gave it all and fought till his last breath believing he could win, and the sad reality hit him in his last moment. You have to look at the manga from the character's perspective instead of just the content of the battle to determine "Gojo should have said this" when there was no reason for him to.

@@Tyrantofthewind Yeah I would've loved that. I don't think you get to see many characters nowadays being a sore loser and I thought it would fit his personality. While it might be presumptuous with just how Sukuna was using Mahoraga and DA and how the fight vs Gojo goes, shows that Sukuna HAD to beat infinity before Gojo and that while he has tools to beat Gojo he has no tool to beat infinity specifically where even in the case of Mahoraga he needed a model to how him how to modify his own tool

Why?

i always liked gojo but i 100% get feeling that way at first because of the fandom, and everything else you're saying is pretty much my feelings exactly

It would have been good if how sukuna killed gojo was the culmination of puzzle through their fight. A moment where you go oh! That makes sense! In horror. Instead we get a ass pull

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl it's not an asspull, that term is overused to an absurd degree. Now, Gojo did lose in the "puzzle" you mentioned, he failed to deal with mahoraga and he lost, that's what Sukuna explained at the end. Sukuna was shown since the beginning of the fight to be durable to an absurd degree, hollow purple included so all the pieces of the puzzle are there already.

@@wumbojet sukuna explanation is a ass pull. Since when can his slashes be adapted to cut space? The mechanical nature of his slashes have never been explained and if it can adapt like that it has never been foreshadowed before Mahoroga needs a special cursed tech to be able to adapt like that. Sukana can do it just by watching it happen? That is why this is called a ass pull

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl bud, dismantle and cleave are automatically targeted, they target cursed energy and inanimate objects, he just changed the targeting to space itself, it's completely in the logic of the power system. It's fine if you didn't like it but we don't need to make stuff up to be mad at. Edit: I almost forgot, Mahoraga was the vessel Sukuna use to analyze how infinity worked, he used Mahoraga's adaptation and Gojo's unrivaled creativity to formulate a strategy to counteract the properties of infinite space, which he did by observing the way infinity reacted to everything he threw at gojo.

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hlI think we can assume the reason Sukuna was able to learn from Mahoraga is because he’s actively using ten shadows, not just watching. Not only that, but Sukuna’s use of jujutsu is the best in the series, him being able to figure out Mahoraga’s adaptation through watching wouldn’t be a stretch, considering he has thousands of years of knowledge, and inhabiting the body of the techniques user likely helps. The explanation still makes sense, we were given everything we needed to understand it. To give some further evidence, we can look back at Sukuna’s fight with Mahoraga in Shibuya. In this fight, Mahoraga adapts to slash and cleave, and Sukuna is immediately able to understand exactly what Mahoraga did to adapt (that being Mahoraga seeing Sukuna’s technique and deflecting it). Sukuna was observing Mahoraga and Gojo the entire fight, keeping a close eye on Mahoraga’s adaptation. Considering Sukuna’s understanding of Jujutsu, and his understanding Mahoraga’s technique, him being able to understand through keen observation is something anyone of both his and Gojo’s skill could do. There’s one more thing that is a bit difficult to answer for me, that being how Sukuna was able to apply Mahoraga’s adaptation to slash and cleave. I don’t fully understand how Sukuna’s techniques work (I don’t think anyone besides Gege does rn) but I’d we are to go off of his domain expansion, we can assume he selects a target that the technique hones in on and attacks. The adaptation specifically widened the range of the target from Gojo, to infinity, to the world, allowing for a means to pass through by attacking the technique. This part could be argued against, though, but for now it’s all we have. Jujutsu is not a concrete science, so we cannot say what Sukuna did is completely possible, what matters is that the explanation we were given makes sense in the context of the world we were given. The only bad thing here we were given was the mediocre presentation, which wasn’t even that bad. It could have been better shown, but to say it’s asspull isn’t right, and I’d even say disingenuous

Agreed, Gojo dying was never the problem, just not SEEING it happen was not it 😅

Amazing interpretation! My pleasure, so glad you continue to enjoy.

I absolutely love this explanation. Do you mind if I ask where exactly you found this explanation on Reddit?

​​@@MadarasRightHand7150On the Jujutsufolk subreddit by a guy named Proper-Elk-7952, though be warned his post wasn't popular.

​​@@MadarasRightHand7150 r/jujutsufolk

I agree with pretty much all of that. Overall this whole post shibuya arcs have not been the best. From the zenin massacre being sloppily handled, makis 2 chapter training arc where samurai guy and wrestler appear and disappear out of nowhere. To the culling games just being all fights with barely any substance with the exception of yuji vs higuruma. Then the time skip that gave us no cooldown or substance, so it was hard to even connect with gojo or his state of mind

The fight itself is a mess. Being the “strongests” shouldn’t come at the expense of breaking previously established rules. It felt like gege was just coming up with whatever is contrived and made him sound smart so people don’t question it. Not to mention sukunas last attack, the explanation and how it came to be is so contrived. Also if sukuna cut space itself shouldn’t that have the exact same effect has blue? Even for a split second. The battle of the strongest to me personally lacked any value like why were they fighting in the first place? What’s the ideological clash? Something more personal to sukuna or gojo. When I think of battles between two of the strongest character in an anime j think of something like meruem vs netero, it was more than just a simple fight.

Sukuna wasn't going all out, that's just a fact. He was fighting with a handicap, which is what gave Gojo the biggest chance to win. This doesn't mean that Sukuna wasn't getting his ass kicked, it just means that the fight would have gone differently if he hadn't been focusing on Mahoraga.

I think that the chapter is supposed to show gojos and sukunas POV gojo died in an instant he literally did not know what hit him(also why it is oftscreen) (also gege prob does not want to show sukunas ability yet), so of course he would think that sukuna is stronger since ne was basically teleported to heaven ne also probably tink that sukuna did not use all of nis abilities then also the attack that hit him was after all of the ten shadows were gone which is why he probably thinks that was just SuKunas own technique 2." this cripples the power sealing between Gojo Also, from the past few chapters, we seen Gojo tanked multiple Sukuna slashes within his domain to replenish his CT. What is so different about this slash that bypasses infinity, that its output seems to be 10 or 100 times stronger than Sukuna an other slashes this is my only fault from the chapter, though it seems like the attack sukuna used negates durability, though if this is true that attack is literally too op for the series. The only explanation I could think about is when he said "it was almost impossahle to produce the attack" which makes it seem like this attack could not easily be replicated multiple times. "The flashback apart from serving O purpose, desecrated Sukuna and Gojo's image" this was my favorite part of the chapter first, sukuna was never worried and smiled throughout the fight and was only scared when gojo was getting close to use a hollow purple because that was the only ability that could kill him though right after he survived (but damaged) he had a smile on his face. It shows that he was really just trying to find how to break through infinite and was never worried about anything except gojos hollow purples gojo not being sure that he could win is because he was instantly killed and had no idea what happened which is why he makes the "blugh sound when he awakes in the after life because he did not know what hannened for gojo trying to reach sukuna is because gojo had the burden of being the strongest his entire life so he prob know was sukuna TeEls like gojo took many Ls not because of hIs strength but just not making the best decisIons not killing get at tirst, not destrovina getos bodies after killing geto. and geto sealed based of his emotions) but for once he did everthing that he could have and still lost and losing would not because of his actions but him just being weaker also by losing because he is weaker it answers the question geto asked in hidden inventory, gojo was not disapointed of himself losing the title of the strongest, but instead fine with it proving that satrou gojos identity is not just being the strongest "gojo doesn't contribute anything" It has been stated alot duirng the manga that all jujust Sorcerers die with regret and being gojo is ironic because gojo died with mav regrets "Mahoraga didn't really achieve anything" Sukuna did not care about Mahooraga since he wanted to learn how to kill gojo, which is why the quote your my shadow show me what you have is important because he could not adapt to a phenomina like Mahooraga and Mahooraga on its own is too weak to beat gojo, which is why he wanted Mahooraga to show him something new that he could actually copy which is why he said "Lovely" after Mahooraga slashed gojo also it was never revealed what Mahooragas ability was until now, up until then it was just deductions from people who could not use the ten shadows. ( until of course now because sukuna has the ten shadows abilitv Anyway I hope that helps clear up some of your problems, I was mad at first reading this chapter but after re- reading this and other past chapters I really liked it!

Gojo seems like he's considering Sukuna's mastery over Jujutsu as a whole, which was what ultimately allowed him to win, even if 10 shadows just happened to be the the tool used to do so. Since we don't know what Sukuna's other abilities are, or how he could use and develop them throughout the fight, how can we outright deny Gojo's statements? They both used a clutch move, and Sukuna's was just superior. The match was close; it wasn't a landslide for either one of them. That's the thing about Nanami and Haibara thinking that way. They don't know who Gojo really is (mostly because of his status as the strongest), so of course their perspective of him would be skewed compared to us, who have seen more of Gojo's actions for us to find something not 100% true regarding their statements.

gotta be honest, i'd rather read a battle shonen that cares more about character and narrative than one that's like, 90% just complex fight mechanics being resolved on-screen. if anything that kind of thing is a problem that's being sidestepped, especially considering we still do understand pretty much everything that happened in the fight and why, including what happened off-screen in that moment. it's so weird to talk about the fight like a page or two's worth of images not being shown at the end of a bunch of chapters of epic combat makes the whole thing bad or pointless lol

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this man literally gives his life fighting for all of this stuff and then when it costs him his life you think the fact that he has complicated feelings about this and is able to die at peace having done his best at literally everything he could means his character has been assassinated. "redeem" gojo for what? not being a simple person and not hating himself and dying miserably because he knows goddamn well he fought as hard as he could? for being able to relate to Sukuna about the loneliness of the overwhelmingly strong? redemption is bullshit but if anybody needs it, it's you, which is worse because you're actually a real person. this is not character assassination, the only thing assassinated here is the idea that you jackasses experience empathy lmao

Well nothing about my argument hinges on it being an afterlife vs it being a life flash or whatever and I don’t feel strongly about it myself. I’m not really bothered by that, to me it’s a semantics thing and I don’t really care which one sees it as.

But he got his output back through black flash, and even regenerated his arm, though I do think if he were to come back it'll be through someone else using RCT instead

That's a good point about the choice of framing. Gege's always been pretty good about that kind of thing. Still, it might have helped somewhat - by which I mean those that consider the "off-screening" the biggest/only problem with the chapter - to have a slightly wider shot with some subtle art indicator. Just something that people could've pointed at and been like "that's weird," only to find out this chapter that it was Gojo getting cut down.

@@rajaryan4424 but it was more so implied it's not a ~ perfect technique and very risky and bad to do to heal your own brain so Gojo might just be cooked. It's not that he couldn't heal it again, it's that he shouldn't ever done that in the first place. *my sentence structure is terrible but I'm not gonna pick at it. You get what I'm saying. I hope he stays gone, and I'm kinda disappointed Sukuna got the ability to cut through time and space to win. The power creep is real

@@pyrosianheir yeah I agree but knowing Tite Kubo got death threats when he killed what's his name; it was probably the overall best choice. The Gojo Fandom is wild despite him kinda having an awful feat list.

@@ashzerodude Given that Gege's still getting death threats and all kinds of other stuff thrown at him, idk... this might not have been the best, at least for avoiding that. But, what's done is done. This'll probably cause a portion of the fanbase to ditch, no matter what, and hopefully they won't be too awful in the aftermath. Same for those that stick around.

The ONLY thing I had an issue with was Gojo saying that he wasn’t sure he’d win even without Sukana’s Ten Shadows hax…like what?? As soon as he “lost” I immediately get angry and said “I would’ve liked to see him do the same without Megumi’s powers.”

Why?

Gojo didn't say Sukuna would beat him without the 10 shadows, he said he didn't know if he would win. Which makes sense, as seen during the fight, they were equal when Sukuna wasn't using the 10s. The main problem was Limitless, which gave Gojo a big advantage. Also, when Gojo said that, he was referring to the fight overall, not in that specific moment, bc ofc Gojo was winning at the end and Sukuna needed to evolve to slash him.

I'm pretty sure things turned out like this to Drive home that Sukuna won't be defeated by be ing overpowered. My money is that he'll go down by being tricked into reneging on a Binding Vow. Those consequences are a giant question mark, and it's the only thing Sukuna's ever been wary of (Angel's ability to erase him notwitstanding).

no it makes sukuna look foolish and seem like a cheap hype character that's there for the sake of being there

​@@Ebon_Sean It was cool seeing the contrast in both their sources of power. Gojo being so strong because of his insane technique supported by 6 eyes vs. Sukunas perfect understanding of curse usage. They said it relatively early into the fight, if Sukuna finds a way to cut past Infinity Gojo is done for and he figured out how to do just that. Binding vow or fatigue. Hes already suffered brain damage and has used up a fair share of cursed energy and still has to face special grades like Yuta. Dont anyone can beat him at full power but right now its doable.

People can't have different opinions?

@@Endless_Titan No, I just think that if a manga's purpose is to entertain people and millions of people are infuriated/not entertained, then it's probably not "great", despite what you think about those people.

@@TerrenceSullivan1335 That's not the purpose of art but that's besides the point. You're saying that people can't have different opinions. You can frame it or spin it any way you want but that's what you're saying lol. Idk how else I'm supposed to interpret your comments

@@Endless_Titan You're just a really weird guy crawling out of the woodwork frothing at the mouth about how I'm forbidding anyone from having any opinions ever, lol. I didn't even make any claims, it literally ends in a question mark, it's a question you donkey.

​@@Endless_Titanno point in art most people don't enjoy if it is not aimed at a niche audience which JJK was not. Also yes JJK as a shonen manga series needs to entertain and retain its fanbase. The series has been getting rightful crap for most of the culling game and the Gojo vs Sukuna fight was the chance to remind people why it got popular but for many it just reaffirmed it's mid status with the ending. In general Gege seems to struggle writing satisfying conclusions to big fights

Glad to hear it!

it's his story, though. why is he obligated to write it differently just because the fanbase loves a character? there might be rare exceptions to this but as a writer it is very hard for me to sympathize with the idea that what happens in a piece of art should change simply because a lot of consumers might wish things had gone better for a character. that is a dangerous hole to fall down as a storyteller and it's worse than just telling the story the artist wanted to tell, like, almost always. also i just... don't get why people are surprised that gojo lost. i had literally been expecting Sukuna to kill Gojo someday since all the way back at the beginning of the entire story. the instant Gojo said he'd win, i figured the only reason to have him say that would be if he was going to lose, and i was right

@@MalkuthSephira he isn't obligated to write what the fans want to see but simultaneously fans don't have to like what Gege has written and are allowed to voice their dissatisfaction with it. Everyone expected Gojo to lose. No one expected him to lose like that. Gojo's death just feels hollow. Compared to Junpei's or Nanami's death, it doesn't feel right. Yes, their deaths were tragic and expected but still had meaning. Gojo's death however feels like Gege needed to get rid of him but didn't know how. The execution was terrible and makes Gojo's entire character meaningless. He didn't achieve anything. He didn't even weaken Sukuna all that much and even gave him an upgrade. Who's supposed to realistically beat him at this point? That's the problem because Sukuna is too strong. Gojo didn't even think about his students in his last moments and was more preoccupied with thinking about Sukuna, the guy who wants to kill all his students and bring a massacre to the world. No "he trusts his students and that's why he didn't talk about them" will ever convince me that omitting them was a good idea. Gojo dies without regret while he kept getting Ls and made the situation worse. Great. Well, shouldn't be surprised at this point because Gege seems to really dislike the good guys and didn't give them a single W without them taking a bigger L right afterwards.

o7

Luckily you’re commenting on a 40 minute video explanation of why I liked the chapter, so you should easily be able to fathom it even if you don’t agree! We’ll see in the future if Gege wrote himself into a corner, and that could easily be the case, but as for right now I’m on board, as I said in the video.

@@Aleczandxr I've watched the entire video. Very well done as always. Still, the more I think about this chapter, the more I dislike it. It's definitely one of those 'love it or hate it' kind of chapters as can be seen by how controversial it already is (and it's not even officially out).

Cool! I’m sorry you don’t enjoy the chapter, but at least you can fathom my perspective now! :)

My pleasure! Thanks for following!

It has said in the story that all sorcerer die with regrets and that is an example for gojo and it is ironic that even though he was the strongest he really could not do anything he wanted

Nanami's in that list?

@@adrianiii3125 Nanami's death was very sad, but it didn't hit me as hard because it was spoiled for me before I started reading the manga. It's actually the reason I started reading the manga. This fanbase is the worst with spoilers.

It was explained in the second half of the chapter, no? I’m sure there will be more to it, but there was an explanation.

They still need a massive asspull to stand a chance against Sukuna.

Thanks for your input! Usually I would do that, but this is a special case :) Luckily this doesn’t affect you in any way in terms of spoilers as long as you didn’t listen any further after the warnings.

@@Aleczandxr That's understandable and I'm looking forward to watching the video after I can read the chapter for myself. Sadly, I already take strong precautions to protect myself from spoilers after I stopped looking at raws and fan translations. This means that I understand how big of a deal it is when people start warning about spoilers for a chapter on wednesday or thursday. I read chapter 235 so there's no way for me not to immediately know WHy people are saying to stay away from JJK twitter and the attempt only gives away what I would have otherwise been oblivious too. In the end, the execution of this will matter more to me than the moment itself but I'm still frustrated when I don't get to go in truly blind. On a more positive note, I cannot believe Gege did it again by syncing up this chapter with the release of this week's episode. It's Nobara all over again! What a troll.

I feel the exact same way. We all experienced the same thing. It’s unfortunate.

It makes no sense in the story. Sukana explaining how he did it is nonsense.

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hlhow is it nonsense? He’s done basically the same thing in previous chapters like when he makes himself into a cursed object.

@@phylocybe_ cursed objects aren't touched on a lot but I would have to guess it's the same as reverse cursed energy, barriers, shignami. That is stuff all sorcerers cam do and it's only a matter of skill. But CT aren't like that, they are limited to only one person and they are limited in what they can do. Mahoroga adaption CT doesn't just give him the knowledge of how to counteract act the phenomenon. But also the power to counteract act it There is a difference between knowing how to do something in theory and physically being able to do it Sukana slashes have never been seen to have such adaptive powers or being able to effect space. They can only cut people and objects based on cursed energy.

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl I may be misremembering this but didn’t kenjaku make sukuna into the cursed fingers? In other words he couldn’t do it himself until he experienced it. Also, I don’t see how sukuna wouldn’t have the power to do it. Imagine the limitless as being like a locked door between Gojo and sukuna. Sukuna can’t hit him with his technique unless he unlocks the door, and he can’t do that until he sees mahoraga so it. Mahoragas technique allows him to automatically bypass a technique but sukuna can do it intentionally because he’s the strongest. It’s like your brain learning something without you realizing it (like learning your native language) vs intentionally studying (learning a second language)

@@phylocybe_ but CT are never seen changing nature like that. How the nature of your tool goes from cutting objects and people to space it's self? CT are tools limited in their application