A five-year journey with Susvara.. 75 amplifiers 35 DACs every flagship and super flagship that has made a name for itself has been taken into consideration.. Thank you on the third anniversary of the channel for the support and encouragements Hope you guys enjoy the video Share and like and comment and tell me your experiences..
@@ConvinceMeAudio thank you for replying, I recently got a cayin ha-6a and your review had a big part in my purchase. Looking at the Audeze LCD-x next unless you have a better suggestion :) (currently using dt 1990)
@@SignorFreeze my advice would be first of all look on the used market. Do not buy these things new right now all of them are going for a third of the price because of the time they’ve been out, there are a few excellent products to look at especially with that tube amplifier. What is your budget, what type of music do you like? Listening to? Also do you have any problems with any part of the frequency response that we need to be aware of? And do you like a pair of headphones that does everything, these questions are kind of crucial because some people like collecting Headphones for different things other people want one Headphones that does it all. My advice is on the used market by ZMF VO I have seen it go as low as 1200 Focal utopia used I have seen Ghafoor as low as 1500 this would be the sweet spot of perfection with tubes, Do not pass up HD 800 S, especially if you have this amplifier another exceptional headphone LCDX is fantastic but it’s heavy very very heavy that I mention it’s kind of heavy? LOL. Arya might be another option, I would recommend tungsten single sided but it will not be driven properly with that tube amplifier. It needs so much voltage.
@@ConvinceMeAudio yes they are heavy and I got to try them. I compared them to hifiman arya on a mcintosh MHA200, tbh I think the arya needed more power as they felt very very recessed especially in the vocals. I'm in Dubai so unfortunately the used market is quite lackluster, but I am not in a rush and will keep my eye out. I would prefer a headphone that does it all, I listen mostly to classic rock, punk metal and hip hop. Thanks again for your help!!
@@SignorFreeze I recommend joining the Telegram CMA group, Audio lounge, everybody’s constantly shifting equipment and there’s a bunch of great stuff always on offer
Impressive. I am looking at this headphone. I have not seen anyone on youtube test the Sussvara on such a wide variety of equipment and give a decisive view on it. Thank you for that. An "Expert" is valued for their opinion. A lot of the self proclaimed reviewers give wishy washy conclusions.
Since finding you CMA has been one of my favorite audio channels. Always super informative and very relaxing and I can really tell how much you love this stuff. Thanks for the content brother 👍. Just out of curiosity have you ever thought of doing a re-review on the Stellia? Since it's the only 5 Tiger winner I can think of it would be really interesting to see how it scores now after all this time
nice review!!! I had the Susvara for years and loved them. Driving them became too painful so I ended up finding them a new owner. Calderas are my new daily and I really like them. Susvara can be rather unforgiving while Caldera are very smooth sounding yet still detailed with great slam. Oh, and easy to drive. Fun trying new stuff. Love your videos!!!!
I've owned the HM1 since late 2022 and what always surprises me is how DAC sensitive it is, and how much synergy is possible. I use a very high end DAC, but when it was in the shop I brought out my backup Mytek Manhattan II with SR Purple fuse. I really didn't want to admit it, but the combination was much more punchy and exciting. Maybe not as resolving or refined, but it showed incredibly DAC sensitive the HM1 is. In fact, it did better with the Mytek than MSB Discrete with 2 powers supplies. It seems to like fast, dynamic DACs, with high voltage output and linear PSU, and perhaps forward midrange.
You're the best Koji! You have me looking at buying a Susvara even though I did not jive with the Arya Stealth and have limited use for zero isolation open back headphones. If I'm smart I'll stick with my Caldera and Ferrum Oor/Hypsos for open back listening but, hey, my daughter does not need to go to college...
Haha I appreciate it, it’s a fantastic Headphones that simply adapt to the equipment behind it crazy stuff Currently testing the ferrum full stack this is great. I think it’s the king of the 6K and below category and reaching a little bit above two.
@@ConvinceMeAudio Cool. I have the full stack Wandla, Oor, and Hypsos. I'm keen to try the firmware upgrade to Goldensound edition on the Wandla whenever that is available.
Cheers mate it’s on the way, hopefully the unit will arrive shortly. There was some problems with shipment apparently a bunch of them got damaged in shipment. We have some insane equipment to test it on, Viva 845, Red October, AIC, WA33, the elite variant and also the ideon absolute DAC and wave dream signature, it’s going to be very exciting
I've been saving up for the Susvara's alongside the Holo audio stack of DAC's and Amp's, and I can't wait to try all of it together later this year. Thank you for the reviews and recommendations.
Thank you sir for another outstanding content that is professional and full of passion. It’s amazing to have you in this hobby. I want to ask, how do you compare the ferrum stack vs may / bliss for susvara and 1266 TC? Thanks
Thank you for the kind words. It’s deeply appreciated and I do appreciate the support. I have that small mighty stack right now on the desk plus the behemoth of Holow I will write you a couple of paragraphs in about an hour or so, but hopefully will explain both, and I actually need to do a video on a few of the systems side-by-side as well, I need to actually make a note of that
Well done on your success so far, you are one of the best when it comes to describing the sounds and characteristics of a headphone system. It appears that the more you spend on the susvara chain the better they are. So if you have limited funds say 10k to spend on a new amp and headphones would still go for the Susvara and then what amp do them justice. Or go for something different altogether
Thank you for the kind words. Deeply appreciated, 10 K is a fantastic budget to get you running with SUS in a fantastic way in my opinion. May kte - bliss is an incredible stack Ferrum complete stack is another fantastic one, but if you want to unshackle the Headphones a little bit Monoblock ahb2 maybe a tube pre-or another type of pre-and an adapter would be insane too If you can grab HM one is another fantastic unit, but that will take your entire budget just for the amp and in my opinion, I wouldn’t use that amp personally and subjectively unless I had WD signature from rockna
We are aware of the link situation. It seems to be a used tube studio thing for some reason it doesn’t like saving it with the release cycle. And I have to literally go back every time to do it manually. I will check this tomorrow as it’s midnight here, but I’ll deal with it.
What chain is the best? I’m currently looking to get the holo audio bliss and wave dream signature that you were discussing. I currently have the he1000se-cayin ha 3a- smsl su-9. I want to try and go for an end game audio setup.
It depends on the budget you can literally go up to $100,000 with those headphones. It’s kind of nuts so there isn’t the best there is just incredible that might suit you but I think some of these systems might really make you happy. Full ferrum stack Full holo stack Waivedream signature HM One Aic10 riviera lampizator Golden Atlantic or Poseidon SUS the sky is the limit and the only limitation is Money
Once you find that amplifier synergy for you, it’s done. I have been amp rolling for a couple of years. Now, I am using a customized 300b speaker amplifier with a large transformer (from a local maker, adjusted to include a full power speaker output). I have not explored another amp for more than a year now. But before that, Susvara was not satisfying me 100%
@@Cirillion I used the BURSON AUDIO CONDUCTOR 3X Reference and the SPL Phonitor xe and they was to harsch and clean 4 the Susvara so my ears choosed the Lehmann 👍
Hi Coji from CMA hope you're having a great day I bought susvara 2 weeks ago and they sound amazing but I really miss my sennheiser HD800S sound stage does the susvara/mass-kobo 465 setup stage as big as hd800s stage is my top priority but don't want to mess with tubes unless i have no choice and ready to pay mass-kobo if it does it for the stage or maybe take the red october.
@@solrq8349 Red October will give you the biggest stage on SUS, but I don’t think there is a headphone on the planet that can rival the stage of HD 800 S that’s it’s one and only party trick, but the stage is far more accurate on SUS I recommend keeping both headphones around, but Red October is the best biggest stage
@@solrq8349 for Red October, I would say the pinch waste and the western electrics 300 B But you’re good to go with stock for a long time, it’s exceptional
@@ConvinceMeAudio does it slam as Enleum 23R or close to a single AHB2 with susvara? i will take anyway even if don't but definitely I will be mentioning CMA for helping on this purchase. ♥
@@dynamic-audio Elrogs gold lion g3r I think I was more thinking about the touch of tonality rather than the technical performance, I was wondering if that was gonna become a contention when I was going through the video
HI CMA just watched your older video of the susvara what do you recommend an amp for Susvara in ~3k$ range I care about bass & Air & stage size coming from hd800s and thinking of dual mono flux lab acousting mentor has so much power 33 watts in 32 ohms.
There are some fantastic amplifiers at the 3K region. If you look for the used market you might even get better deals com. Benchmark AHB2 but you will require an adapter and a pre- Holo bliss is another excellent unit OOR - ferrum HYPSOS will cover the situation nicely I think my favourite here would probably be bliss unless I was buying the full ferrum stack I have this in the office right now being tested it’s a fantastic small footprint set up
@@ConvinceMeAudio thanks for the reply did you have a chance to listen to the enleum 23rm the small portable guy with the susvara if you did how does it sound.
@@solrq8349 i’m really intrigued by that unit, but unfortunately I’ve not reviewed any of their products since the 23R But I’ve heard incredible things about the portable mass kobo 475
As mentioned, watching it. Thank you for this video! I am not sure if I want to purchase the Wavedream Signature and the tube amp I want or just get the Raal Immanis instead.
@@ConvinceMeAudioKoji, it wasn’t. When I listened to it at CanJam Singapore, the chain was an Aune stack - DAC, Clock and S17 Amp. The interface which is also a stand (very clever) and the 2 cables that come with it makes it easy for us to use whatever chain we have. It is the best I have heard and I do have a few flagship headphones. Would like to hear your reviews for sure cos I am wondering if I should sell my Susvara, Atrium and HD800S, etc… to get the money to buy the Immanis or put more into my equipments. I am currently using the Silent Angel Z1 Plus as my Roon Server, combinations of a Chord M-Scaler, TT2, Gustard R26, a BB-chipped DAC, an AKM DAC, iFi Pro iCAN Signature, GoldenWave/HFM Prelude.
@@ConvinceMeAudio yeah, I can feel the excitement. If the chain was “better”or the price was reduced further, I may have placed an order because, the price:performance ratio would be more compelling and made sense for me. Therefore, it is either the price got lower or the performance got higher that would have made me acted, although I am not sure if I had a better chain at that time, it would have tilted the ratio. I was listening to the Immanis with an Eversolo Player, Aune DAC, external clock and S17 amplifier.
Hi, I greatly appreciate your opinions based on your reviews. Ive been going in a bit of a circle and im trying to get off the ride. To keep it short. I have had several Summit-fi systems in the last two years and learned a lot at some cost. I currently Have a Lina Stack with Susvara and AB1266. I have decided I really want to build my chain around the SUSVARA. In the end I just think it's the best all around. What would you recommend as the best Susvara chain. I want to create a chain around it. I could just keep the Lina Dac and Clock and replace the amp? However I just want to get a Susvara chain that won't keep me searching for that optimal Susvara experience. Also what do you think of the HiFiman EF1000. Keep the Lina Dac and Clock and just get an EFoooo amp? I know its subjective and im not trying to put you on the spot but you have heard many more and me and Im getting frustrated of making expenditures and not getting to Susvara Heaven which is where I want to wind up. I would really appreciate you input sincerely thanks
This one is a little complicated. There isn’t a best of chains for SUS you can put $100,000 into it and it will still showcase the best of those equipment. But here are some of my favourite systems without a doubt that I think I would be happy not to touch Reference: Zahl hm1 rockna WaveDream signature AIC 10 Riviera lampizator Golden Atlantic or Poseidon Aic10 wd signature A&S Red October wd signature Viva 845 wd signature WD signature is the best DAC I have heard under 30,000
I recently purchased the Warwick Acoustics Aperio, not in small part due to the CMA review. While amazing, I am yet to be convinced that the Aperio outshines the HiFiMan Susvara driven by the HiFiMan EF1000 integrated amp specifically designed for the Susvara. I hope Dr. Fang will provide CAM an EF1000 and Susvara combo for review. While expensive, the EF1000 + Susvara is quite impressive, but then so is the Aperio. My last comment is that the Blue Hawaii driving the STAX SR-X9000 comes damn close to these state-of-the-art performers at a "somewhat" more affordable price.
@@ConvinceMeAudioOh no! :) ... im afraid to watch. Rather get some near field bookshelf speakers for my setup. Like used Focal Diablo but I know nothing of the speaker world.
Oooo it definitely has been and has fantastic comparisons here too, I think it was just a matter of picking and choosing if that makes sense nothing to do with the Headphones themselves just time I love me some utopia on tubes so excited for 2022 addition to come in soon at some point
I wish there is a segment that focuses more on how to get the best out of them with more normal priced equipment. A headphone that needs 30K worth of gears to make them sound their best sounds extremely flawed to me.
Predominantly this video concentrated on what it was capable of when there was no limitations, but right now I am genuinely listening to SUS on the ferrum full stack and it’s glorious this will be reviewed shortly, yes $6000 it’s not cheaper at all but it’s spectacular, so impressed, and also you can have a nice experience with IFI Diablo two if you check out my review or CMA 15 which is now the CMA 18 at $2300. You can get decent performance, but I think there are much much better Headphones at these price points that can give you more on these lower end equipment in quotes. Because 3000 isn’t low end but for SUS it’s the bottom of the barrel and I think this little stack is sensational and it should truly start the flagship category
a very minor thing that irks me about these headphones is that rarely anyone if ever bothers to pronounce its name the correct way Sue Swura (melodious or sweet words/vocals)
I certainly have, also using the Raciny Bartoc v 2.0 Apex to I think the most electrostatic performance out of the unit more than any other very nice, liquid shallow depth for field but excellent articulation punch needs to be on high gain input to
@@grayfox198 I pre-ordered March 4th before the CanJam hype train started. It's funny, it was a comment on this very channel - the Stax review - that made me aware of it. I really liked the SR1b so that made me more confident in a blind-buy. Were you able to try it at one of the shows?
How do you feel does it pair with holo May and let’s say Feliks Envy with WE300b compared to mentioned red October / wavedream signature combo. According to you description they may have a lot in common. I have a bit of trouble imagining it can get any better than Envy Perfomance Edition with We300b for that mid sweetness
@@CookieCurls Hi Cookie! Funny to see you here we chatted about getting a Werk One board once, what a coincidence, love your content. Yeah I own Envy, it’s wonderful with Susvara.
Using western electric tubes and Brimar All of these videos are being shot this weekend we just finished all the b roll Envy at its Apex with these top-of-the-line tubes, is probably only 70% of Red October when it’s ice cold just switched on there’s a big difference and a very big jump between the two categories but don’t worry a shootout is coming
I still have my pair of 2.5mm variant from the day they first came out. And it’s been a great headphone however the most picky headphone to drive properly. Most amps fail miserably and unfortunately the susvara has a bad name amongst many reviewers because the amp driving them is mediocre or poor.
Liquid authoritative needs to be on high gain. I prefer Bartok firmware 2.0 to be honest but yes it’s very nice strange shallow depth for field in regards to the presentation. I’ve never seen anything like it, but a very electrostatic feel to the whole system, it was fantastic hoping to bring it in for review.
@@tonyd9998 I think it needs to be on high gain, otherwise not enough juice, otherwise it’s perfect, but trust me you don’t want to spend 30,000 on this. There are much much much better systems for SUS at less cost.
The Zahl HM-1 does NOT power the Susvara properly. Not sure how you can state that. Explained here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0teedVodbI4.html
Naa.. Your expensive system just missed Riviera aic10 and mass kobo 465 cuz all urs Ha3 r not perfectly match bra.. 2nd..u mentions bout headroom.. Its Scaleable bra not headroom ha3.. Welcome noobs.. Peace!
Headroom for power, scalability for threshold of drivers.. actually you’re incorrect, both AIC 10 Riviera and 465 were both here on the table during the meet, I highly recommend watching the video right the way through, there was an entire section on 465 alone 😂🐅 don’t worry both AIC 10 and 465 review will be coming in the next six weeks or so I had the aic10 here prior to this too, at Christmas 46 weeks, I recommend watching the video and posting your comment again properly ☕️
