The arguement : A believes because A-reason, B believes B becase B-reason, I am correct because I dont believe because of NO reason. (??) I am right because i'm unreasonable. (??)
no one needs to prove you anything or show you the evidence of the past miraculous . The noble Quran has many verses which are exactly describing those kind of people . even if you'd show them the evidence , they'd still say i don't believe . you need to open your heart and your mind by studying the scriptures for yourself and maybe then Allah SWT will remove the curtains from your eyes by His will . walking in the dark and asking for evidence is a dead end of the road shortly before a deep cliff.
You are the one started with insults. You can take your golden opportunity and do with it what you want. Don’t miss quite, don’t demand, and don’t disrespect others because your hate to Islam and Muslims has blinded you and made you dumb, and there is no cure for that with me. I don’t have to proof nothing for you or to anyone, go learn.
The third option to being a product of knowledge or no knowledge is actually some knowledge, but in a discussion about Tawheed, this is irrelevant. It would imply there is "teamwork", or multiple dieties, which we know is not logical. The question brother Anwar has assumes that the other person has dispelled the doubt of multiple dieties. It's the best way to begin a discussion on Tawheed though, because it brings to mind what's in the natural inclination. That is, it helps the person ponder over the oneness of their Creator. Alhamdulillah.
Brother if the knowledge given by Allah is not enough for you, Muhammad PBUH doesn't match to your thoughts. You need eye witness or more proof. Please wait untill the next stage of life. You will have it.
Sam keeps saying he’s open to accept Islam if the evidences has been made clear to him. But in reality his attitude shows that he’s the furthest from being open to seek the Truth. He’s just trying to show off his fluency in English.
If he said he believe in scientific method.. why not tell him about the miracles in Al Quran which reveals things that even science had no clue before... Salam brothers😊✌
The brother i think is sincere to learn and listen about islam but i would have prefered brother shabir or hashim to aswer his questions in this topic.
If you are ignorant about something or subject, yet you argue hard, you are disrespecting yourself greatly. Those how spend there time seeking knowledge still don’t argue like this.
wished brother anwar hit him with the scientific facts that were in the quran which could only be made possible through modern science/technology ..i'd have loved to hear sams response to that
Argument from ignorance, makes a claim then looks for the evidence later to fit in with his claim. Why make the argument so confidently yet have zero examples, this is a classic example of people who are not sincere and argue for the sake of arguing and can't back down because they believe they are too intelligent and humbling themselves is not in their remit. Athiest all come from the same factory, one of their main tenants is to dismiss logic and reasoning that they apply on a daily basis and make ridiculous fallacies like "why are you reducing the beginning of the universe to the creation of my jacket" logic and reasoning like the universe either had intelligent design or it didn't there is not a third option, "why are you boxing me into two options" when asked to provide a third they throw all logic and reason that they claim to use out of the window.
Its waste of time to discuss the subject of knowledge with sam. I think sam very good in making statements, but he can’t back up what he claims, he think you are cornering him, either u agree with his generalization, or you are cornering him which he doesn’t like, discussing these heavy matter require an open mind to turn all stones, but not sam, I could see he is not ready to listen, nor he has any thing to offer, that’s why he cut any thought before it sees the light, allowing the thought might make Sam in very difficult position, so he reject any proposal given, nor he provide any from his side, I feel sorry for him, having said that, I still feel he is a good man, may be times require to help, we all need that.
He said he's not a Christian, but his dodging the question about the origin of the universe being a oroduct of knowledge shows he is using a false set of criterion, I think however Brother Anwar could have used better wording such as a product of chance or no chance, or the product of design or no design, product of non randomness or randomness, product of soemthing or nothing, maybe the other guy (African) didn't understand Brother Anwars argument properly or was just trying to use sophistry to look smart.
Well actually what the guy is doin is trying to tell Anwar not to box him into a conversation where he has no options. Like how about I say I believe it was a product of supreme knowledge. I just trumped Anwars idea now didnt I? Too many of these "debaters" use these box in tactics. They dont work and just make you look super pushy, rude and overly aggressive.
Here's your evidence stop arguingbut different creation, flood, and end time prophecies. Similar but different names of Father Creator and His Anointed Son which the Hebrew New Covenant (amendment to the Original divine covenant FOR the Hebrew tribes) from the scroll and NOT the BOOKS of corruption of the Serpents and Sun worshippers and human sacrificers, and idolitors, and murderers, kola, Yahuchanan the Apostle of the Anointed Son of YAH Chapter 5:{36} Moreover I have a greater witness than Yahuchanan's. For the works that the Father has given Me to finish, the very works that I do, bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent Me. {37} And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form. {38} But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. {39} You search the scriptures, for in them you think you have everlasting life, and these are they that testify of Me. {40} But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life. {41} I do not receive splendor from men. {42} But I know you, that you do not have the loving affection of Yahuwah in you. {43} I have come in My Father's name (Hebrew = YAHuWAH, Anishinaabe Cree = Gitchi MANITOU, and Lakotah = Wakan TUNKA) and you do not receive Me (Anointed son of CREATOR, Hebrew = YAHushuWAH, Anishinaabe Cree = MANITOU Sook, and Lakotah = TUNKAshila). If another comes in his own name (ZEUS = IESOUS = JESUS = satan = fallen lucifer most unclean, liar, deceiver, seducer, NAShA), him you will receive. {44} How can you believe, who receive splendor from one another, and do not seek the splendor that comes from the only Eloah? {45} Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you, Mosheh, in whom you hope. {46} For if you believed Mosheh, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. {47} Moreover if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?" CREATOR is LOVE my thunder brother, Almond "JOY" Clan 4EVER !!!! Tey Chechelah, stemuspaoose, Metakeo Oysein (ALL my Relations whether Anishinaabe Cree, Tsalagi, Lakotah, Hebrew, etc.) This IS why CREATOR answered your prayers for a like minded brother who IS Native and also perhaps Hebrew and why i can decipher the Serpent's LIES in the Bible = "6" on top of "6" + i + "6" + le = 666 LIE from all the FALSE translations of the Hebrew story in both the Torah in the Tanakh which contain their divine covenant with YAHuWAH and the New Covenant in scrolls and NOT in a book Just as CREATOR gave our native ancestors on mammoth hides, my brother l!!! ALL IS WELL, KOLA !!!! ☝️🤣🤟
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