I asked 15000 people which Sims 4 packs to buy in 2022 

I actually like Batuu and I'm sad that some get really angry

That I can zoom in the video is what surprised me most 😂 thanks for the info

@@utube9056 Haha! It's actually a really handy new feature when watching on mobile, makes watching videos like this with data a lot easier haha

batuu is the best pack!

I honestly thought Windenburg would win best world

THE ACCURACY

I've been saying from the moment it was released that it should have been a stuff pack. It would have been an amazing stuff pack, but it was really disappointing as a game pack.

I wish i could buy the world and the build mode without the gameplay. Even if it were not bugged i would not want the new weddings, i am not interested, i am not a storyteller type.

It would be awesome if someone could come out with a mod to turn off the gameplay. But even with my absolutely zero knowledge of how mods are created that seems like too much to ask for

@carl pls I'm begging

My husband who has absolutely no interest in playing Sims still watches James' videos with me! That's the mark of a top tier creator for sure!

​@@SLorraineE thats dedication! It must get confusing sometimes as a non-simmer😂

I promise they don't care. Some of these disliked packs made good money

@@ruminationstation4200 how hard is it to listen to fans and make a game almost everyone likes? It’s like they love disappointment added to their reputation.

@@rexibhazoboa7097 It's EA. They do not need to care and do not care, in any of their games.

@@rexibhazoboa7097 really difficult, because ea's only purpose is to make money 🐱 capitalism's main purpose is the profit

@@jean-mauricenestler3761 Thats not how business works, its why customer relations became a thing, nobody is too big to fail. Eventually it will catch up to them when they push it too far.

**Spoilers*** I am surprised by a lot of the ranking, probably mostly in game packs and expansions. It’s so fascinating to see what people most like! Spa day had updates which I think made it better with the manicures and pedicures, yoga classes etc. the only thing is that aspirations were glitched out, not sure if it got fixed. My Wedding Stories I thought would rank much lower seeming as though it doesn’t work and essentially ruined weddings! I guess the beautiful world and cas/build buy was strong. But this pack was probably the most disappointing and controversial release for me. Get Famous is one of my faves so that’s surprising, I agree the world wasn’t ideal and oddly didn’t seem to suit the game graphics. I am shocked it ranked below Get Together. Island Living gameplay was bland,I would only buy for the world, build/buy and cas. Eco Lifestyle is such a good pack imo! I would have thought it ranked higher. Snowy escape being ranked so high shocked me too! It seemed very niche to me, so I am confused 🤣 Really glad to see seasons and cottage living up high, I think those are well deserving! Great video James. And thanks everyone for voting! Xx

@@deligracy Yes I was surprised by how high Snow Escape was too! A lot of the build/buy mode is somewhat niche (though admittedly there are some amazing pieces, like the kitchen set and the simple modern windows) and the gameplay absolutely needed something more imo. The CAS and the world are beautiful though. I wonder if people rated it a little higher since we got platforms as a free update with Snowy Escape? Or because that's when the sims team really started working with creators to build lots? Thinking about it, Snowy Escape was a weirdly impactful release - even though they weren't features that exclusively came with the pack, platforms and working with creators on packs really changed the game!

It was truly a sad result

​@@TheGracefulChariot I bought Snowy Escape pretty early because of the build/buy, mostly buy. My last game obsession was Animal Crossing, and I was missing the Japanese style build items. ☺ I totally get what you mean about the gameplay, I've probably had a Sim ski like once, but I do think Japanese aesthetics are popular. And personally I love the snowy mountain world, my parents just moved to the mountains in real life, and I've never seen anything as pretty.

I'm shocked that Eco Lifestyle rated low on gameplay specifically, I expected not everyone to love the build/buy (not everyone is looking to live in a shipping container?) but I love the gameplay. But it's occurring to me that if you're not specifically playing Eco Lifestyle, the gameplay that's the most in your face is forgetting to vote on NAPs and suddenly getting your power shut off, or having to deal with broken community lots because your Sims are stealing your benches. I love replaying Eco Lifestyle, maybe second only to Cottage Living. But NAPs can definitely be annoying.

Yeah, I think overall, Sims 4 packs could use more toggle switches. A lot of the stuff they add is just always on and I don't always want to use everything like that

I agree, I would have bought it if it weren’t for the lack of toggle. I still miss sims 3 toggles to this day. I actually had the supernatural pack because I knew I could turn off individually the existence of occult sims. I never bought werewolves and vampires because i don’t want them in my game all the time, but I would absolutely buy them for their build mode more than anything and for the occasional gameplay. More toggles needed, give me back the age span sliders from sims 3, hoping EA goes back to these ideas for sims 5

@@aylayzrianne there’s already a tmex mod that’s just a strangerville toggle! i do love the world but the infected sims always freaked me out really bad so i was desperately searching for a mod like this before i even touched the world 😭

The game overall, packs and no packs NEEDS more settings for everything. You can't even rebind keys. P for pause? Seriously??!? As a 4x player let me have my spacebar for pause please

Create a new game and cheat your way through the strangerville story until you finish it. After that, just open and Save As every new save you make so you'll have a non-infected version everyt time.

Definitely! And the way I asked the questions was for those who had actually purchased the packs, so that means you'll get reviews from people who were interested in the idea. I think it gives a good view of whether or not what was promised was delivered in each pack

YES! I was so waiting for this video because there's a sale on Origin and I really wanna buy a pack so this really helped me

@@JamesTurnerYT Since the data is so skewed on Batuu, do you think it'd be better or worse to do a different ranking for it with the 0's removed due to the more than likelihood that people who don't actually own the pack voted 0 just because they don't like it ? Or even slashing the amount of 0's that were voted on so it represents the bell curve trend we've seen ? Granted there is the possibility of some true 0's, maybe even a higher trend, but due to the staggering amount of them, false 0's are more likely in this case than true 0's-- that way we could potentially see a more accurate rating on Batuu.

@@thalianaruiz3521 that was also my thought. maybe with 40% of the zero's we get to somewhat believable

@@xkittyxxkatx I get what you're saying ! The build mode and some of the hair styles are probably the only good things about the pack itself but even then, it's on a case by case basis for people bc we all have unique tastes. I was just wondering tbh since it's hard to get a true read out on Batuu

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Yeah but besides having a cat and dog there's not much to do. You just have a pet in your house that now and then you give attention to

Yeah but in the sims 3 you could control the dog and give it friends and have him do stuff. I love the pack anyway but it's truly not the best in the franchise

@@jecsibethguevara9819 I was so bummed that you couldn't control the cats and dogs anymore! You can't even see their needs or relationships. It makes it so much less fun. Honestly, the original Sims Unleashed was so much better than this one is. I even liked the world better to be honest. I miss the Zydeco music and you had more pets options!

@@laurelrose7018 there is a mod to be able to do that

I think everyone was just comparing it to Sims 3 Pets and it can't live up. The animals are beautiful but kinda boring in terms of gameplay.

You don't even want to know how much time I spent sorting out all this info haha

@@JamesTurnerYT Your data is always so satisfying, love the way your brain works! I wonder what's your MBTI type? My guess is ESTP

Thank you! I literally spent 5 days just organising data and creating graphics haha

@TheSimSupply It really shows how much time and dedication you put into this video. Honestly, Semaj is in his Happy/Graphs Era and we all love to see it. 📊🥹🪴✨️

@James Turner James, I'm always so impressed with your graphics and creativity in your videos and on your website. I really appreciate the time you put in.

For real, EA just got a lot of good market research for free

@@baigles2012 And I really hope that they take advantage of this free market research for future DLC for Sims 4 and for Sims 5. For me personally, the percentage of people who own each DLC is especially telling. I actually ran some stats about the stats here. I averaged the percentage of people who own packs in each of the four categories (Expansion Pack, Game Pack, Stuff Pack, and Kit) just for giggles. The average ownership rate for kits is only 35.5%. Remove Desert Luxe from the equation (given the probability that most of the people who have it got it when it was free) and that drops to 31.9%. The average rates for both Game Packs and Stuff Packs are in the low-60s (63.9% and 61.4%, respectively), while the average ownership rate for Expansions is 81.74%. No Expansion Pack is owned by less than half of surveyed Sims 4 players. Personally, the conclusion that I draw from this is that Sims players are far more likely to pay for more expensive but more expansive DLCs than for watered-down cheap garbage. Someone posted above about how the total cost of all this DLC at full-price is $870, so honestly in the future I personally would far prefer to see fewer but larger DLCs, and I think this data suggests that I'm probably not alone in that sentiment. I also would like to point out that, if we again exclude Desert Luxe, no kit was owned more than even the least-owned Stuff Pack or Expansion Pack. There were three Game Packs mixed in with those other kits, and one of them was Batuu (which personally I feel should have probably been a separate spin-off game like Sims Castaway Stories was for Sims 2, with maybe some of the build/buy and CAS stuff added either as a free update for the base game or unlocked by purchasing the spin-off game), one was My Wedding Stories (a hot buggy mess), and one was Werewolves (which okay, not everybody goes in for occults, but I personally think that one should rank higher given that it actually works and fits within the Sims franchise).

And cas, mws cas is top teir

I think that depends on your play style. For me personally, I don’t care too much about gameplay, I mostly build and create sims.. so I think it’s great he ranked it according to all three of those play styles :)

That said, keep in mind that this is the opinions of people who watch James' videos, so we're probably more of a build/buy focused bunch. I was surprised when I first waded into the mods/CC world how much of it was CAS focused, because I'm much more of a build/buy person, and I tend to stick to my own lol. There are a lot of CAS people out there too! It's just not me.

@@bente2580 makes sense, but honestly, considering amount of free mods and cas items on the internet… paying 40$ for clothes may feel very underwhelming for a lot of people, me included

@@bente2580 see i’m the opposite. idc ab cas, i never use ea clothes. i always use cc for my sims. i do appreciate build and buy a bit more though. but gameplay is the biggest thing for me. will i always like playing it or will it get old?

You mean cults right? Praise The Dear Leader🚫🐸

I actually use it more often than I realize. Mostly through live-in shop and studios (akin to Sims 2 Open For Business). I'd also add a resturant there because it's so freaking buggy (this is before Carl's mod.).

I had a family live there and think it's a pretty good little world. There's a playground, fishing spot, tables, food stalls from Seasons and you can wade in the water. That's pretty much the standard for older worlds and much more than Del Sol Valley's living neighbourhoods have to offer, especially the upper class one.

For me the most annoying thing is when a sim asks you to go on a date to a retail store. there isn't much to do there

The worst thing about it is by far that sims will only leave it on this one spot at the pier. Forgot to send your sim home via map screen? Enjoy watching them waddle around the neighborhood for a minute.

The only thing I use Magnolia Promenade for is fishing for cowberries. And once another sim asked mine out on a date and it was to a shop there. Otherwise, it's pretty useless. I use the gameplay of that pack heaps though.

Right??? It was so much fun to see them!

My first thought is always "imagine if proper scientific studies partnered with RU-vidrs to get that many people to respond!" Like clearly it wouldn't be applicable to the vast majority of research, but the ones where you need a lot of data from just random people??? And with the analytics RU-vid provides, scientists could partner with channels that have the kind of audience they are looking to target!

@@SLorraineE that’s interesting! You’d have to consider the biases of viewers though (age, nationality, gender, socioeconomic background etc etc) for each RU-vidr’s viewer base. RU-vid is probably inhibited by law to release those informations on viewer’s for further cross-checking of responders, not sure 🤔

Lol, I was just thinking of the same thing and spent a while looking at Most Owned. I guess Seasons is getting used in every pack!

@@zkw100 Seasons is definitely one that's super easy to use on every build. It's probably my favorite pack.

I loved all the data too!!

Glad you enjoyed it! I tried to show as much info as possible whilst not being overwhelming and for those that want even more, the spreadsheet has all the extra graphs

@@JamesTurnerYT I think it's a good balance! But I'm definitely gonna look at the spreadsheet too, I'm a nerd lol :D

Same!

Right. I’d rate Get Together as one of the top 3 packs IMO. Simply because of the utility it allows for. Got a teen sim that needs friends? Make a club that’s Teens Only and add a few Teens to it. Got a large family? Make a couple Clubs to include each family member and start a gathering. Got a single Sim that’s looking for love? Make a Singles Only club, and make desirable traits a requirement to join the club. Want some extra spice in your game? Make a woohoo club that gathers at lounges, bars, or nightclubs. Want some chaos? Make a Werewolf/Vampire fight club. Clubs are so utilitarian, that just about the only limit is your own imagination. Not just that, but the world is ABSOLUTELY beautiful. There’s even some nice, albeit very simple, lore behind Bernard and Mimsy (the ghosts from The Chalet) My biggest gripe about the pack is that some of the townies are kinda boring, but I think that’s mainly cuz it’s such an early pack.

​@@an_avidpanda_lover8349I completely agree. My Sim kids only ever complete the social aspiration thanks to clubs, and they're so useful for helping your distant relatives meet your new baby

At this point EA should just hire James.

He's the Gemini god of the Sims, Geminis *k n o w* how to take care of Virgos and they know that Virgos love stuff like the Sims, so he just found a way to take care of us, and since geminis love to take care of Virgos for some odd reason, he does a good job , I love Jamie Gemini daddy, all my heroes and best boyfriends have been geminis, I might marry one 💚 who knows 🐛

@@ReginaTrans_ who's the virgo in the equation?

James always saving, fostering and entertaining this community! Bless him.

This is so true!!

It's also so all consuming. If you want to do well and complete quickly you can't do anything except go to class, do homework, and try to keep your needs up in whatever time you have left. I suppose that's accurate to real life but in a depressing way that doesn't make me want to play it.

Its really put me off buying it, even though I was excited by the concept as I'm a uni student

As much as I'd love that, I think the community would immediately lash out and see it as them "double dipping" since City Living's selling point is the apartment building gameplay - there were already people complaining about this when we got Ecolifestyle. I remember when they did that survey with concepts the community would like to see and they pitched the Brazilian coastal city world and even Sims YT'ers were like "oh no, I'm not voting for that, we already have Sulani" when the world they pitched would actually be more akin to San Myshuno with beaches....

@@dreamerbee That’s true the sims community would probably flip out over that but I’m sure it would be fine if they made the residential lots small townhouses/condos or lofts rather than apartments. Also if you look at the packs that are said to come out in 2023 one of the appears to have a bit of a city vibe incorporated so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see something similar in the coming months

i love it too, we need more (and better) apartments and at this point all the worlds are blending to me, it's just the same.

@@dreamerbee You’re right, people would lose it. I really hate how we can’t revisit concepts without people getting angry. Especially if it’s something that wasn’t as fleshed out as it could have been the first time around. Like I would love to see more for pets to do, but it’ll never happen with how much people hated my first pet stuff (which admittedly did just seem like stuff they held back from Cats and Dogs)

@@dreamerbee true, but then whatever they release, part of the community will lash about something to do with the pack.

I love Get Together! It’s so good, it needs more love. Eco Lifestyle is also a good pack but it’s a little buggy for me (mainly NAPs randomly turning themselves back on even though I have them turned off in settings).

@@naeshelle Justice for Get Together, it's a top tier for me. The world is amazing, love the CAS items, and the club function is so useful!

Love Get Together and Eco lifestyle for making amazing modern builds. They both have community elements that works together for gameplay, too!

both are damn FANTASTIC packs!

Fr! Eco lifestyle honestly has such amazing gameplay!

Exactly! My daughter was soooo excited for my wedding stories and we told her she could get it, but then when it came out and we heard how it just didnt work she changed her mind and now that I’m playing more, we basically decided we’ll buy it when its fixed lol. I guess she learned from Dine Out to go to RU-vid first to see what it’s actually like.

I agree with first point. On the second one though; you were not supposed to vote if you don't own the pack so if it is only an issue with packs you don't own it's not an issue.

@@pemeliie oh I meant more like someone who owns these might say 'good in theory, but unplayable'

Mine was seasons. My sim lived in a little cottage and did gardening all year round and decorated the house every season :)

Get Famous biggest failure is building around acting. If it had a full on pop star career instead or better yet as well it would be much better received.

@@xkittyxxkatx I totally see where personal preference plays a part! I personally never use the Island living items or clothes, don’t care about mermaids and only ever use the hairs or go on holiday 1-2 times a year in sulani. The get famous world is way too small, even though I thought it’s really pretty, and the build items are lacking. But i personally enjoy the gameplay 😅 the pack in itself isn’t in my top 5, but I just thought it’s objectively better than Island living just because it’s “only” lacking in 2/4 aspects and not really 3/4 for most people like island living. But yeah, personal preference plays a part in the survey of course. And the majority obviously likes island living more.

I really loved Island Living because I really wanted a tropical world with beaches. Having a variety of worlds was more important to me than new careers or gameplay. Get Famous could have been stunning with a bigger, better world.

Even though they're the least fleshed out occult, mermaids are what tip it over for me personally.

@@xkittyxxkatx yeah, you’re right 😂 I mean they aren’t for me either, I was just surprised. I’m sad get to work is so far down. If it came out now, with a proper world and better CAS and Build/Buy it would’ve probably been one of my favorites. But it’s just too old and needs a good refresh 😅 but I remember enjoying it so much when it came out. And I still play the interactive careers. But compared to the other packs it’s just not good enough anymore.

YES. I shouldn't have to live in a base game world to have collectables spawn

I think maybe seasons is the best but cottage living is my favourite. It’s hard to explain how that is possible, but I think seasons has people’s brains but cottage living has their heart 😁

@@jaybee4288 it's the face cows make when sims brush them. melts my cold stony lil heart every time

My jaw dropped when seasons was ranked number 2

Yes! When James said it's a pack you play through once or twice I was surprised! I use it almost every time my sims age up into young adults! Interesting to see how different people play the game.

Same 😅

I play a normal life expectancy gameplay and so it takes way tooo much time but I love the gameplay!😊

I pause aging when I pay university because of this

SPSS is my enemy -a sad sociology major

I was just saying this! His stat skills are definitely showing.

Selvadorada being vacation-only is *so* wrong tbh.

Lot of people like [bland] Neutrals. see also: Fashion Street getting dropped in a pit :|

@@Ardelin_ yeah and decor to the max too!

I felt the dream home decorator objects were close to scandinavian/nordic style and that's why I like it so much, there is no other scandinavian stuff in the game so it being able to make homes that look like the houses around me was nice.

@@genetes thanks for your input! That's something I hadn't really considered and I'm glad it gave you the opportunity to better represent houses from your area 💚

Wait, why? I don't own it but was thinking of getting it :( I haven't watched anyone try to place them iirc, just thought it was pretty and usable

Curious as well, don't have it but been considering it

Why are they unusable ?

Not unusable, I agree with the original post. I just forget that pack exists and don’t find myself using the plants in that pack as much as I do a lot of the base game plants.

@@vapeguy8891 i think just bc a lot of plants are really large and have a really modern aesthetic so it only works for really specific builds

I agree with Discover University! Even though it can get pretty tiring sometimes and I have to take a break from time to time, which is totally normal as the gameplay and world are still the same and now I have my own school stuff to do so I don't want to spend all of my free time in university with my sims too 😂 but after my every little break I always find it interesting again and having so many different degrees holds my interest well and gives me an illusion of the university gameplay being different everytime I do it with another new sim with a different degree, different personality and different hopes and dreams for their future 😄

@@erikoinenuori I agree completely! I take a break too because I play on long and it just happens. Plus redesigning dorms (and commons) every few generations keeps everything fresh too. Glad to see fellow University enjoyers 😭❤️