mark IS perfect because he knows when he DOESNT know something, and will either learn it or defer to someone else who DOES know it. that shows how smart he is. stupid people will fake it and screw things up worse! thats why mark is great!
Mark bro dont let you self down, seeing you take apart the engine and put it back together to get it starting again is another level of work, we are still learning about this kinda stuff dont be afraid of mistakes we made just be proud of what youve accomplished and the progress youve made to be here
Mark is an absolute legend! It’s okay to be disappointed in yourself when it didn’t go 100% at the end, but at the same time to get this far your first time building a DSM?? Great job!
Ben, dude. Much respect for detaching from the disappointment of the car not being fully back to normal and noticing mark needed that encouragement about all the things he did right. That’s a quality not many people have. That’s the kind of friendship that is needed!
Dude that washer not sitting flush 100% saved you from breaking studs once the engine was in the car running. If that wasn't there, they would have torqued fine but once you hit that boosted for long enough, that head would have went thru the hood! Id call that a blessing. I think the most impressive part was how calm Mark was after that stud broke...I would have been so pissed
Anybody doing a job for the first time, no matter how skilled, is going to make mistakes and learn. I’m really pulling for you guys hoping for a successful build. Working long hours to a deadline is fatiguing and no matter how careful you are it can come back to but you. Great editing to make a video that was entertaining and watchable all the way through (as usual)!! At least it is making for great content. It’s what we do to overcome adversity that defines our character. You guys have had more than your share and come through with grace. Sounds cheesy, but you’re great role models and genuine people. I commend you.
This is the reason i love this channel, most people edit out the struggles, the disappointments, the failures but to be honest that is what makes it relatable. We all make mistakes and mess up from time to time thanks for making it real❤.
Owning an Evo myself, I'm quite used to the POP. That's the sound you hear right when it reaches max boost as a hose and/or pipe that needs to remain connected ceases to be connected. ...POP!
Mark you kwon your stuff, the thing with the injector it's such a small thing in the whole rebuild of this multiple time revive 4G63. It's an easy fix, dont blame yourself the fuel rail seem a bit tricky to install with those aftermarket injectors !😉
Mark is the homie! Love to see an episode where he takes the lead. Don't feel too bad about the issues with the engine, Mark. These cars are made of paper mache, hopes, and dreams. You're doing the Lords work! Stay at it!
I love the Mark hosted vids. Don’t get me wrong I love the Ben’s. But as a blue collar boy myself. Mark is very relatable and it been fantastic to watch him grow into such a personality in front of the camera as well. Now off topic. I’m waiting for the day y’all decide to try overlanding or offroad vehicles. Here in Virginia is a prime spot to hit some major east coast trails.
I am never really into offroading but your comment got me thinking…. Can you imagine them doing a roadtrip with Toyota FJ40/Land cruiser/Hilux, Mitsu Pajero, Suzuki Katana, oh and a Nissan Patrol! and… Imagine them swapping the hilux with 2jz, the pajero with 4g, and the patrol with rb26dett!!! Bruh if they make like a 5 episode series for it, I’d happily pay 100 bucks for content like that!
It's always that one thing you miss when working by yourself on something unknown. It's an unfortunate way to learn, but I'll bet Mark checks the hell out of fuel injector installs in the future. Love you guys!
Chin up Mark, don't let this get ya down. Sometimes things go wrong, we learn, we grow, we adapt and we move forward. Got mad respect for ya, being this an engine you said you've never put together before. And the darn thing fired right up, that's a win in my book. A couple new injectors and you guys will be back in the game before ya know it! 👍✌🏎🏁
One of the most real videos have seen in a while…. No RU-vid magic, the ups and downs of building and learning! We have all done it…the immense pride followed by crushing defeat, you did good Mark! Bet you won’t make the same mistakes again buddy, we all still learning don’t be hard on yourself
@@iyot1020 They can sell out and keep right up to editorial control, just need to find the right buyer. Not much people like that interested, most buyers are... not too informed about their target audience.
Mark, YOU are HIM. Thanks for getting the Talon going, and I'm sure this video doesn't even highlight 1/10 of the hardship you've endured, but you've done an amazing job and we're closer to seeing the Talon on it's feet than ever! Can't wait for the next time we see the Talon!
Mark man im the same. im a mechanic apprentice and i screw up from time to time and i act the same way, i fell guilty and like i cant do a single thing right but my manager and my boss always tell me that ive done a lot of good and its part of the process. idk if ill ever agree with them because i dont believe them. but eventually ill learn to understand and accept my faults and mess ups and hopefully do better than my last time. its just a process of trial and error such as life. but im glad to see someone such as yourself give it a go and i can tell that ben is grateful that you did. good job man.
Cheer up, Mark! At least you get do what you love doing! Plus, as a person who is always go out to do the best, I feel you man! It is just one of those things. We cannot get everything right in the few tries.
If you guys are coming back to Wisconsin anytime soon, I have a 4G63 engine for sale at a killer price. Was built by Boostin Performance in Chicago and the engine has zero miles on it since the rebuild. Was supposed to go in a 95 Talon but the chassis (like your old one) was rusted out. So the motor has just been sitting ever since. Had it built for 800WHP. Have paperwork for everything.
@20:13 don’t beat yourself up mark you REBUILT that whole motor for the FIRST time and the only issue you had was nothing to do with anything you rebuilt
Mark is the man, he’s done it all, but hey things happen and we learn. It is OKAY. Ben clearly wasn’t mad. My boss when I used to work at a motorcycle shop gave me a fist bump and asked if I was okay when I dropped my a bike. Ben is clearly the same! That’s the fun part about building cars!
If you guys are running anything higher than 9.1:1 compression it’s going to lift the head on 93oct or 91oct 4g don’t like too much timing either unless you are using e85 or race gas. At least that’s my experience for the 12 years I had my evo. My recommendation, 8.5:1 compression maybe 9:1 max. Conservative timing if 91 or 93oct
Head lifting is based entirely on cylinder pressures alone, so it's the peak boost you're running combined with the timing and ultimately the horsepower level you are running. Using a higher octane to fix head lift doesn't make sense?
To assemble an engine and only have these few problems is really a great feat. I'm not a mechanic, just a DIY car enthusiast. I managed to break my rear caliper by overextending it, cost me $100 for a reman caliper.. But i learned to pay attention more while doing things. Today, I was installing my lowering springs and camber arms in the rear. I got them on and put the lower control arm back on, but couldn't get the end link, so I undid the sway bar bracket bolts, got the end link in and snugged down. Then proceeded to cross thread AND break off the bracket bolt inside the chassis. Paid a welder friend to come weld a bolt to it to remove it, now i learned to make sure to start bolts by hand, and to not over tighten. I'd take 100 Marks before adding another me to break things on my car! Can't wait to see this thing with some fresh injectors, its gunna be a ripper!
You guys give me hope and life. I'm on built engine number 4 with my built focus ST and man I randomly came back from a deployment to start it up to boxer engine sounds. Pulled dipstick and found milkshake. Still diagnosing since blowing a headgasket while sitting doesn't seem right to me.
The ending is really sweet. The olympics is going on right now and one of my favorite things is seeing people lift each other up. Good job Mark! Nice video showing realities of owning cars like these.
It makes me incredibly sad that Mark is so hurt about this. In that same breath, I'm happy that it reflects in his mannerisms.. that he has so much passion for his craft. Outstanding job Mark, you've got this! :D
That clutch damage is due the actual clutch disc HOPPING up and down during the engagement from too much torque. Root cause of this is NOT the disc, but a failure of the pressure plate to keep the disc engaged. You could use the same disc type but you WILL need a heavier pressure plate. Great thing about 4G63 flywheels is you can easily replace the friction disc on the flywheel.
Chin up Mark, I’ve been in auto repair now for over 15 years and this stuff still does happen. It humbles you, makes you learn and makes you know next time you’ll do it better. You fix what happened and keep moving forward brotha. I’m a huge fan of you Mark, you really always have complimented what the Bens do since you were brought on. Hang in there…there’s always tomorrow to fix another DSM
i know he's gonna know more than me when it comes to welding a block, but i was always taught to use a rose-bud torch to heat the area around the weld so that you got more heat penetration. that was the technique farmers have been using to weld engine blocks with coat hangers and torches for nearly a century. my great grampa did that stuff 40+ years ago on old Cat and JD tractors with iron blocks and heads
Honestly shit happens. I think you did great Mark. All the stuff that went wrong or broke can be caused by you being tired or rushed. Plus you’re never going to forget these things when you’re building your next engine. So you can’t get them wrong again. 😂 Valuabe lessons, good job Bud 👍🏻 Love from the Netherlands
Mark did a hell of a job! Second ever engine rebuild and the only thing wrong is with parts outside of the block. Can't be mad at that. I'd take replacing an injector over taking apart an engine any day.
As frustrated as you might get, i love this content. Ive had the "Welp, lets take it all apart again" face too many times, and its refreshing to see on someone else's face. XD
I think every single one of us who is any varying degree of serious about cars, I.e. gets their hands dirty, has had MULTIPLE instances of feeling like we’ve absolutely failed an install/repair/etc. You can know everything there is to know, but the factor of being human never goes away. Respect and full trust in you, Mark. You’re killin it
Awesome video guys! Adding a coolant pressure guage will help with knowing whats going on while tuning or driving. Also Putting an Copper or Stainless steel O ring set in the block and or head will aid in sealing the head Gasket! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Mark did well. I've been in that same feeling of frustration and disappointment many times. It's usually followed a few weeks or months later by a huge boost in skill and confidence, you just have to push through and focus on the lessons learned.
That's how you learn, you break things. That's how I learned a great way of how and how not to reassemble items, including an engine. Been there, done that.
Mark is such a dedicated man. Mistakes happen he does good work, not everything goes to plan especially on a project car. Hope to see the first drive soon!
Bro .. not many people can disassemble an engine and reassemble it and have it actually run .. I give ya mad props .. and can't weigh to see it ripping once again ... ps I'm in nc with a 400hp miata running 30psi on a g25-550. Next time yal in nc, I want to race or just togae .. peace and love guys ,keep it rad , stay safe, and build on.. l8r famz and keep having fun
Just a quick reminder... there are 2 bolts shorter than the others in the oil pan. Those go on the side were the timing belt goes, if you dont use those 2 bolfs your timing belt will get destroyed. I love the talon!
Mark is like me or "everyman" working on a car, a real guy that will talk about when something went wrong. This is real backyard car enthusiast wrenching. Having said that, I would want nothing to do with an eclipse, but this is great stuff.
Seeing this makes me feel better about trying it on my project car. Cause yeah its literally every part of the engine you're touching. super intimidating. Respect for showing the issues you learn in the moment. and yeah, it turned over and started right up. so its impressive.
Mark, great job man! I've been there myself a few times. Just a heads up. Make sure you have the correct oil pan bolts going into the front cover directly under the timing belt. There are supposed to be two shorter bolts in the set to make sure the Timing Belt doesn't rub against the oil pan bolts during operation.
Amazing job on Mark leading this video and building the engine. It was great watching what was reused, unlike other RU-vidrs who use new parts regardless of the condition of the one coming off. The battle is having the knowledge to know what was wrong and learning for next time. Keep moving forwards Mark!
Also you did a great job mark! Sometimes ya learn things the hard way and gain knowledge from it and will make ya a better tech. You are doing great man! I’m an auto tech myself. Can’t wait to see it make some power next video! ❤
it's cool to see mark on the lead of an video that bring a new vibe and mark bro you rebuild the engine by your self and the fact that the engine start that a big deal hope the best for you bro
ARP supplies smaller washers than the OEM diameter. You can buy specialty washers that center in the stud hole and have a larger OD. You can buy washers from ARP that match OEM or you can buy 1" OD washers from ARP and take them down to 0.960" for that extra bit of load spreading goodness. Looks like you've got the undersized washers. They will dig into the head and you'll lose clamping force. Also by torquing above the 80ftlbs without having the block honed for the L19 head studs at that value you've warped the bores. As tested back in the day by guys on the dsmtuners page you've introduced up to 1.5 thou of cylinder distortion. The head is the weakest link in holding on the boost pressure not the stud.
If I would be rebuilding an engine for the first time and the only two mistakes I'd make are those injectors, I'd be over the moon. Thanks for the weekly upload, G&G!
Don’t feel bad Mark, you’re a wizard in my book. I’m a DIYer (not to your extent of knowledge) but I know how exhausting and frustrating it is to do and re-do the same thing over and over again. Heck I’ve started proyects at 4pm and ended at 3am. But we still get shit done🔥. Know you know what’s wrong, the fix is easy. Pat yourself in the back and go treat yourself to some nice food, watch a show or movie and get some sleep man🙏 Love to the G&G family from Puerto Rico.❤️🔥
great job mark! we learn from our mistakes and we celebrate the little things. sure it runs like a subie but it runs! you took apart an engine and put it back together give yourself more credit brother! love seeing these videos keep up the good work guys!! p.s. failure, accidents and mistakes are all part of the process. its what people call experience. and from these experiences is how we master our crafts.
Dude much respect and praise from our side, I wouldn’t even know what tool to pick up to begin and I drive a 600hp evo 9 lol. Keeping working man doing great
Mark you killed it. No shame in messing up injectors in your haste! I'm a relatively new subscriber and your willingness to show the trials and tribulations is what keeps me coming back!
Love the new lofi / jazzy direction on the background audio you guys fook with fhis one! Great video as always and I'm excited to see you guys drive at Gridlife LRP this weekend!
Dude it happens... You know how much stuff I broke on my first engine rebuild ?? I over torqued the head bolt ,bottomed it out and cracked the block then had to get a new block and rebuild it AGAIN shit happens it runs just gotta iron out the little things ! Way to go mark proud of ya !!
I love this channel. This is authentic, non-doctored, real adversity, learning experience thing I’ve seen on any car-channel. You guys are great, mark, you’re fucking amazing.
Mark is a real one. Took responsibility for blowing the engine and rebuilding it even though he hasn't before and not being afraid to learn how to, what a stand up dude
This is the kind of stuff you'd see on a broadcast tv episode be way over dramatic but they still manage to get the job done in time, but the real world doesn't work that way. Sometimes we just mess up on something stupid, I know I do. I feel you Mark, it sucks haha but it was awesome to see you tackle the job head on! Much respect, now you'll be prepared for the next time it blows up
I’ve built a lot of motors and only messing up a couple injectors is the smallest of failures in the grand scheme of things. Well done! Injectors is like the easiest thing to fix too.
I was about to comment when it sounded like a boxer engine it was going to be an injector, I had the same issue on my 06’ rsx k24, glad the issue was found! Great job putting this thing back together 💪🏽
