As someone that's dealt with a ton of these, I can share some more info about the RROD. It's not necessarily a bad solder joint between the motherboard and the GPU substrate, rather an issue with the bumps. The bumps are tiny solder balls that attach the die (the shiny part of the GPU) to the substrate. The heat and cool cycles eventually wore out the low quality bumps ATi was using at the time, breaking the join between the die and the substrate. Unfortunately, "reflowing" things does not permanently fix them. It will eventually RROD again as the GPU undergoes its heating and cooling cycles, eventually breaking the join between the bumps and the substrate. This does bring the console back for a short little while, but in my experience, they do fail again.
Good Thing that you're replacing the Bolts with Xclamps but it's not fixed. The E74 is caused by solder inside the GPU and reflows won't fix it. The GPU needs replacement
Well, THAT is a rare dashboard! You rarely see the Metro NXE dashboard, it's mostly Blades, NXE or Metro, never Metro NXE or the early Metro dashboard!
That’s a Gamestop Certified used Xbox 360. It has the fan mod and the x-clamps replaced by screws. Gamestop did that to bring console’s back to life temporarily to resell them for profit so the seller probably was being honest.
I didn't know GameStop were the only ones that did that? That is pretty interesting information though I heard from a lot of people though that this could just be an issue with the GPU entirely and that the board will just keep dying. Hopefully not
@@BelowAverageGaming Jacob R also opened one of those. I seriously wonder if Gamestop was trying to bolt down T-34 steel instead of actually trying to bolt a heatsink down. I'm from Romania and own two Falcons, one being a plagued-GPU (late 07) and the other being a May 2008 unit. Even after a reflow, the late 07 unit didn't even need bolts. Just reflow, slap some high mw/K rated thermal paste, and it's gonna live another decade at best. This is my experience with almost anything that's got bump issues - I have Geforce 8400/8500/8600 video cards in both desktop and laptops - aside from one chip that was horribly abused (to the point it started turning a dark brown), all of the chips I have still work to this day. The key was just using a high mw/K rated thermal paste (MX4 worked best for me usually, and more recently MX6 too, which is a updated MX4) and tightening the heatsink as much as possible so there is maximum thermal interface contact. Among these, I can list some notorious candidates - HP DV6000 (the 8400M GS variant), DV9000 (8600M GS, both 256 and 512 flavours), Acer 7720 w/ 9500M GT (although I would say this one was due to cemented thermal paste, as the chip did seem to come from after they fixed the substrate) and the list could very well go on. TL;DR - a reflow will certainly not last forever, especially if it's a bump issue - but in the cases of bump issues, a proper thermal paste with good application can (most of the times in my experience) potentially maintain the chip alive for long periods of time. I would advise keeping an eye on thermals every now and then, but otherwise it's a good solution with YMMV results when you're on a tight budget. Anyone suggesting a chip replacement - try and justify the prices of both getting the chip and the labor required to get it installed. I'll be waiting.
Well said, I actually purchased 3 more red ringed falcons not to long ago so that will be interesting So far the xbox from this video is still running well 👌
Great video, doesn’t seem like a hard job to fix up one of these. Biggest issue I would have is that update that failed. Good catch on finding that out. I love these system tear downs and fixings. I’ll watch pretty much anything you release, great content!
Yeah from what I'm understanding, only installing a new GPU my perma fix this. Which for the price of the new GPU and the skill required to put one it makes it not worth it
0:36. NOOO that’s not true. It’s a defect from the gpus solder bumps that are coming away from the board. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with the hana chip. There is times the hana chip is bad but that’s not the main cause of E74. Also using a heatgun isn’t the proper way to fix it. You can reball but it won’t work permanently, the only really fix is to replace the gpu and then again you still don’t know if it’s gonna live long.
