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I Bought a "Refurbished" NES From eBay - I Wasn't Impressed - Extended Version 

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I Bought a "Refurbished" NES From eBay - I Wasn't Impressed - Extended Version - I bought this NES from a refurbisher on eBay for $120, and we're about to see how good of a job they did with cleaning and repairing. Will there be anything broken or missing, and will it boot up on the first try? Let's see if this refurbished NES is worth the price!
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@njones621
@njones621 3 месяца назад
Note to self: don’t comment on Steve’s videos unless you’re prepared to back up your promises 😂
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV 3 месяца назад
It's more like "Really prepared". I bet he thought he was prepared.
@JohnnyG10178
@JohnnyG10178 3 месяца назад
Just the way it was tossed in the box is a clue on how this was gonna go.
@cidelogic
@cidelogic 3 месяца назад
This is why when I get a console for my collection , I just stay away from these so called "refurbished" units. I just try to find the best looking one at the best price and refurbish it myself.
@joshkelly4682
@joshkelly4682 3 месяца назад
I buy the nonworking ones so I can repair and restore them
@ElectronicRepairGuy
@ElectronicRepairGuy 3 месяца назад
Same here I’d rather buy it & restore it myself than buy from someone who so called refurbished it at least when you buy & restore something you know it’s being done right & not halfway.
@omgbeardriving
@omgbeardriving 3 месяца назад
If you're handy then yeah that's the way to go.
@sheennshine7
@sheennshine7 3 месяца назад
Looks like "someone" is losing his 100% feedback 😂😂
@davewatson2018
@davewatson2018 3 месяца назад
Lmao 😂
@JorshPodGaming
@JorshPodGaming 3 месяца назад
🤣🤣🤣
@bapt_andthebasses
@bapt_andthebasses 3 месяца назад
Deserved
@CaptSpeirsB744
@CaptSpeirsB744 3 месяца назад
Should give them a chance to make it right before you give negative feedback.
@ChrisWijtmans
@ChrisWijtmans 3 месяца назад
@@CaptSpeirsB744 they had a chance when ordered :)
@filipbulev6756
@filipbulev6756 2 месяца назад
Saying "it's not a big deal" is really off the mark. For that level of investment and the thorough cleaning that's required, it certainly is a big deal to me. Someone's definitely going to lose their good feedback and learn to do better than using just a paper towel and cleaning supplies from the dollar store. I run a repair shop myself, and when I change thermal paste on a PlayStation or repair a controller, I do a complete cleanup, washing every part that can be safely washed with soap and water. By the way, I love these videos! Keep up the great work!
@evan6568
@evan6568 3 месяца назад
Get better soon brother! I'll be praying for you and your family. I would love to see a long-fix compilation of the most difficult/complicated repairs!
@smashed-thumb9886
@smashed-thumb9886 3 месяца назад
This makes me wonder where my first gen NES is. I miss playing all my favorite games, Zelda, Mario, bump-n-jump, Spy Hunter even A Boy and His Blob. It's been 30 years a wow, so much fun.
@rancedanko
@rancedanko 3 месяца назад
I havent heard anyone mention bump n jump in years, loved that game
@goldenboi7685
@goldenboi7685 3 месяца назад
Watching you fiddle with it at first trying to get it to work REALLY brought back some memories lol
@phoenragon
@phoenragon 3 месяца назад
Glad you took a minute to play a level, Steve! If you’re gonna put the time into fixing it, why not enjoy the victory a bit, right? 😁
@Lazyman1975
@Lazyman1975 3 месяца назад
Put an old credit card inside the sandpaper and slot it straight in and out. It is the best way to ensure not bending pins while your moving back and forth.
@reverend_sasquatch583
@reverend_sasquatch583 3 месяца назад
What is so hard about these companies understanding what is expected from a "refurbished" console? It's actually infuriating. When people buy refurbed, they should 100% be able to take it home, plug it in, and have it work like new.
@briandoss9232
@briandoss9232 3 месяца назад
Dude that sand paper on the pins is definitely in top 10 for unpleasant sounds.
@Theendgamelv3
@Theendgamelv3 3 месяца назад
Damn I thought for a moment this was a new video and he was off Chemo due to getting better and then I realized this wasn't his main channel. Keep on fighting man.
@phoenragon
@phoenragon 3 месяца назад
Yeah this is older footage BUT he’s in remission now (according to his post on the website), so hopefully we will be feeling better soon
@Theendgamelv3
@Theendgamelv3 3 месяца назад
@@phoenragon Sweet, glad to hear.
@sharpie6136
@sharpie6136 3 месяца назад
The First NES I brought was from a guy who was moving away and needed the money ,it was with a small 12" TV and 10 extra games all for $100 this was in the mid or late 80s
@mitchjohnson4970
@mitchjohnson4970 3 месяца назад
I would have given the console review either a 2 or 3 depending wether or not they showed proof the console was chippied on the outside before your purchase. The packaging was subpar at best, and they definitely should have checked the pin connection with the issues of the blinking light. I forgot there a few screws were missing from the board, too.
@MizuhoChan
@MizuhoChan 3 месяца назад
Ehh, I know ebay can be tricky, but if you're selling as a business, I'd say you should get some actual decent boxes and packaging material, even if you increase the price sightly to cover it. And definitely make sure it's working well before you send it.
@TronicsFixLongs
@TronicsFixLongs 3 месяца назад
Agreed!
@noneyabidness9644
@noneyabidness9644 3 месяца назад
Though Atari 2600 was my family's first consolue, the NES was MY persnal first console. And I have to say, still my favorite. Such amazing titles.
@jgick7
@jgick7 3 месяца назад
Figuring out the exact process for making your personal nes work was half of the fun. I had to slap the shit out of the side of mine after putting the game in and then turn it on. Worked every time.
@SourdoughDan
@SourdoughDan 3 месяца назад
@9:12 when youre so in the zone your forget to push the cartridge down. 😂
@mbagle
@mbagle 3 месяца назад
I dont believe you need to push down the game to turn it on.
@vincentcloud
@vincentcloud 3 месяца назад
​@mbagle he was able to turn it on put I 100% gurantee you it will not play a game if isn't pushed down.
@perrycoffey5410
@perrycoffey5410 3 месяца назад
​@@vincentcloudJesus Christ it's guarantee
@DOC_951
@DOC_951 3 месяца назад
No one ever counts on a customer actually opening the console
@Icmlost
@Icmlost 3 месяца назад
I have two old NES consoles that do the same thing with reading the game cartridges. I'm going to follow what you did here to hopefully get them going good. One of them looks brand new and the other one definitely needs to be retro brighted due to the yellowing.
@TronicsFixLongs
@TronicsFixLongs 3 месяца назад
Hope you can get them fixed!
@ThePred2009
@ThePred2009 2 месяца назад
flashing red light on NES is nearly always because of the pins you need to replace the pins on the mainboard
@adiposerex5150
@adiposerex5150 2 месяца назад
Excellent work.
@brucepreston3927
@brucepreston3927 3 месяца назад
I used to make a killing selling refurbished NES consoles locally about 8-10 years ago...I kept a pile of 72 pin connectors and I would just change them out if they looked bad...It saved me a lot of headache if the system actually worked when they got it home!
@carletonrutherford1799
@carletonrutherford1799 3 месяца назад
21:41 I was waiting for the "4 hours later" meme.
@amrahmadabdelaziz
@amrahmadabdelaziz 3 месяца назад
Grtting better... we all pray for you
@EnkinduGamer
@EnkinduGamer 3 месяца назад
Sincerely, when I read the word, "refurbished" I expect that to be in, "like new" condition. Meaning pristine and thoroughly cleaned and all caps replaced, with certified parts (72 PIN connector for example). Basically everything except for the logic board. You can't trust anybody these days. The scratches and faded front text is unacceptable for a refubished device. That is not, "Like New" which is what refurbsihed means. You need to be a TronicsFix guy or a tinkerer like MyMateVince these days. I am considering offering my skills to this craft. We would all provide quality products. Let's start the group The Refurb Massive! It's a working title.
@opatapreta
@opatapreta 3 месяца назад
How you are going? I don't wanna live in a world widout tronics fix.
@UnwellGaming
@UnwellGaming 3 месяца назад
why did they put "working condition" its like they put "give me a negative feedback" if they are going to restore a console AND list it as "IN WORKING CONDITION" u would thing they would test it to make sure it meets that minimum requirement. sellers that do that give ebay a bad name and im glad that this seller got the negative feedback that they deserved. Great video. next go to a good will and see if u can find a nes there for you to restore.
@SpaceManJack1969
@SpaceManJack1969 3 месяца назад
The missing foot and rattle in the controller would have had me sending it back immediately. Not to mention the finicky 72 pin. These refurb companies are complete BS. Can of compressed air and a bleach wipe is all they do I swear.
@vincentcloud
@vincentcloud 3 месяца назад
He should have just blown on it. It worked 100% of the time when i was a kid. Take cartridge out blow on it and inside the NES and put back in, played everytime.
@nostalgiarules1348
@nostalgiarules1348 3 месяца назад
Those are some pretty bold claims from the seller. I clean up systems i sell, but i never say it had been refurbished.
@mugogrog
@mugogrog 3 месяца назад
That's not acceptable if someone claims to hand clean their stuff. Goes to show there's dishonest private sellers out there as well. Give the dude a bad detailed bad review if possible and people can hopefully get a heads up. I guess it's more to do with wether people just want to make as much money as possible and just shit out consoles and not giving them the TLC they deserve.
@sirseriously
@sirseriously 3 месяца назад
@5:12 the most uncomfortable sound ever
@DOC_951
@DOC_951 3 месяца назад
Seller definitely deserves negative feedback. Complete false advertisement. It wasn’t refurbished or cleaned… he sold it assuming no one would open it or bother posting a video on it. Exact same shitty selling practices of DK Oldies. I really hope you gave them your honest feedback.
@retro-bengaming
@retro-bengaming 3 месяца назад
Had to use the old "just the tip" method to get the game to work.
@stofopdenaald132
@stofopdenaald132 3 месяца назад
I always had problems with the nes, every one I got stopped working after about a week, and always needed to fiddle with the carts. Recently I found an early nineties Famiclone. Cleaned it up, and it still works like a charm. Nintendo 0, bootleggers 1 😂
@Mikelp73
@Mikelp73 3 месяца назад
This is like electronic dentistry
@krimsonkoolaid9755
@krimsonkoolaid9755 3 месяца назад
Everybody knows that you have to blow into the cartridge to get it to work, blowing into the console sometimes work too.
@steventechno
@steventechno Месяц назад
14:26 Is that the AMD Logo? .... On an NES?
@fsker
@fsker Месяц назад
Isn't alot of what he cleasn off the outside just the color of the rubber he's scraping on?
@titogreggy
@titogreggy 3 месяца назад
DK oldies is moonlighting on eBay
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV 3 месяца назад
"The best game ever made Super Mario 3"...that's debatable.
@Grant-H2O
@Grant-H2O 3 месяца назад
This broken edges are standard when dealing with old Nintendos
@H2Oredfirefox
@H2Oredfirefox 3 месяца назад
You probably already knows it but it's the Nintendo's lockout chip It's probably not getting a signal from the cartridge that's why it's doing that or the chip is damaged in some way🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@KirksCORNER-1983
@KirksCORNER-1983 3 месяца назад
Paid 80 for mine locally and it works on first try everytime.
@kevincoones4368
@kevincoones4368 3 месяца назад
Hi Tronics fix I Got My Nes from Amazon. its worked right out of the box. And its very clean.
@joelbournival762
@joelbournival762 3 месяца назад
Who sold it?
@kevincoones4368
@kevincoones4368 3 месяца назад
@@joelbournival762 Sg Book _S
@BRGKasumi77Main
@BRGKasumi77Main 3 месяца назад
Maybe you can repair DVD/VCR combo or VHS tapes too
@tmetito3535
@tmetito3535 3 месяца назад
Bro you should go to a trift store and buy one for like 15 bucks and they even test it in front of you if you like
@RolandoAvalos-ji7cf
@RolandoAvalos-ji7cf 3 месяца назад
SEND IT BACK 😂
@punker-gamer-trucker-guy
@punker-gamer-trucker-guy 3 месяца назад
If you're going to say it's been hand cleaned, it better be spotless. Otherwise, don't even mention it.
@nooneson1
@nooneson1 3 месяца назад
Wondering if the same person that suggested this company commented on this video
@boscopit
@boscopit Месяц назад
How you gonna send something to a guy that has a channel that does this and not double, triple and even quadruple check that it's in tip top condition?!
@abdulafzil2600
@abdulafzil2600 3 месяца назад
That 1 double 00 got to go 😅
@joshkelly4682
@joshkelly4682 3 месяца назад
When I clean a console, I take all the plastic parts and give it a bath in hot water and dawn dish soap and I have a facebook page with pics showing my work
@joshkelly4682
@joshkelly4682 3 месяца назад
No matter how much you clean the cables on retro consoles they will always produce that brown substance because you're wiping away material as well as dirt that has absorbed in the plastic. I've spent hours trying to get it to stop and it never would
@rorykelly8275
@rorykelly8275 3 месяца назад
That’s exactly what I do also. I leave no internal part unclean and untested.
@rorykelly8275
@rorykelly8275 3 месяца назад
@@joshkelly4682if you use a baby/wet wipe it really does get the cable clean. There’s something in the wipe that just lifts the brown stuff off the cables n
@joshkelly4682
@joshkelly4682 3 месяца назад
@@rorykelly8275 I always disable the lockout chip because they are known to cause the nes to blink, but also I boil the pin connector and then carefully blow dry it, because the heat can warp the pin connector, then I scrub the pins with ipa and a toothbrush and bend the pins and mine will play first try every time
@dragonflye4561
@dragonflye4561 3 месяца назад
my ebay store has 100% seller raiting i work hard to keep 100%
@jayceasar2661
@jayceasar2661 3 месяца назад
hold reset down and hit console twice when it blinks like that
@echonomix_
@echonomix_ 3 месяца назад
My man can play Super Mario backwards
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 3 месяца назад
Basically they did what they said but on every turn they didnt do it in the best way they could have. Just a sorta slopy job all around but at least it wasnt a near irreparable NES.
@waahwaah236
@waahwaah236 3 месяца назад
Do u also fix WD easy store hard drive?
@jameskingiscool
@jameskingiscool 2 месяца назад
U can be perfect in a refurbished product.
@timehunter9467
@timehunter9467 3 месяца назад
I don’t think that 100% is right. Unless someone rubbed dirt on the cable and stole screws during shipping, they didn’t do what they said at all.
@jaimevaca160
@jaimevaca160 3 месяца назад
Is this an old video?
@Rleydic1
@Rleydic1 3 месяца назад
I think the guy lied about it clearly working
@guadalupe8589
@guadalupe8589 3 месяца назад
This a new video?
@tymon995
@tymon995 3 месяца назад
It was refurbished, just not “Fully Refurbished”..
@gumbypokey7
@gumbypokey7 3 месяца назад
Dad joke alert - 15:32
@1ohmwrecker
@1ohmwrecker 3 месяца назад
He regretting making that comment now! 😂
@renejc805
@renejc805 3 месяца назад
Where I can contact you, I have 3 nintendo switch lite, 1 is completely a parts 1 switch dock to sell , all needs repairs. I would love to see it on your channel. I give you good price.
@moderusprime
@moderusprime 3 месяца назад
Literally a nudge to the left or right while it's pushed down will make it work in 99% of most cases so it engages with the pins.
@JimiJamma
@JimiJamma 3 месяца назад
I have a PS3 that the HDMI port is bad, please fix it, I’ll pay you! I have a donor console to work with. Please help me out.
@gamehulk
@gamehulk 3 месяца назад
Note: That inspected date was 2023, so it's been sitting around for a year before it got shipped to you.
@danielwilliams5993
@danielwilliams5993 3 месяца назад
you dont know when he filmed this.. actually since he has hair in the vid it was filmed awhile ago
@gamehulk
@gamehulk 3 месяца назад
@@danielwilliams5993 the item number begins with 3546 which means the sale occurred within the last 6 months.
@namco5182
@namco5182 3 месяца назад
@@danielwilliams5993 it was within the last 6 months. Check for yourself 0:18
@reallegendsquest
@reallegendsquest 3 месяца назад
Note: it doesn’t matter when it was “inspected” if it’s advertised on the description of the item.
@vearl97
@vearl97 3 месяца назад
I wonder if Steve can review the Ninten-Drawer.
@taterzsalad9252
@taterzsalad9252 3 месяца назад
i refurbish these all the time , i sell them with one of them cheap multi carts and pull 300 canadian for them on kijiji. i never bother with ebay im to remote and shipping makes it a killer.
@Grant-H2O
@Grant-H2O 3 месяца назад
Dude! You just gave that NES the VULCAN DEATH GRIP. I've realized dealing with that, there is no realistic way to perfectly adjust the pins unless you do that process many many times. Maybe you can think of a way that can expedite this process of trial and error for original 72 pin connectors. THANKS!!!
@michaellokolore4955
@michaellokolore4955 3 месяца назад
Ich have 100% 😊
@Lstead15
@Lstead15 3 месяца назад
Green Light Vintage = CANCELLED!!!!
@FranklinClinton1
@FranklinClinton1 3 месяца назад
Can you believe anyone at all? Shamelessly calling it "refurbish"
@mikuneverdies6288
@mikuneverdies6288 3 месяца назад
miss the days you could walk down the street an buy a Used NES for 20$~!! XDDDD Oooof
@shady4422
@shady4422 3 месяца назад
refurbished my arse lol
@adilator
@adilator 3 месяца назад
Whoever sold you this was bragging about his refurbishing skills??
@DimasFajar-ns4vb
@DimasFajar-ns4vb 3 месяца назад
wow its not an atari sir
@Kevin87A
@Kevin87A 3 месяца назад
I'm calling shenanigans. Dude has 100% feedback and you just happen to get something that barely works. Yeah, okay.
@xphiles2345
@xphiles2345 3 месяца назад
I never pushed mine down and they worked
@Rico0333
@Rico0333 3 месяца назад
Did you try blowing on it?
@Michael-oi8pu
@Michael-oi8pu 3 месяца назад
Extortionate price
@joshmatthiesen4552
@joshmatthiesen4552 3 месяца назад
Haha $150?! Naw I’m good
@christopherm9720
@christopherm9720 3 месяца назад
atleast it worked (to a point) and was clean, id take the risk and buy from them over anyone else
@thunderdragon8341
@thunderdragon8341 3 месяца назад
Don’t trust this guy he was suppose to fix my Wii U but he kept it and my money he is a thief
@urimhykaj8446
@urimhykaj8446 3 месяца назад
Did your hair just came back on?
@TronicsFixLongs
@TronicsFixLongs 3 месяца назад
This is an older video before I started the chemo treatments.
@danielpowers5891
@danielpowers5891 3 месяца назад
Update, update, update! (I mean get these videos uploaded faster)
@pmcelraft
@pmcelraft 3 месяца назад
Why not hustle buy the nes don kit and put ine rogether?
@DJMarkGyro
@DJMarkGyro 3 месяца назад
Much too high priced for a console with a broken edge....
@danielpowers5891
@danielpowers5891 3 месяца назад
It's not refurbished if its still got old caps.
@leex187
@leex187 3 месяца назад
That guy needs to lose his perfect review score its misleading
@CaptSpeirsB744
@CaptSpeirsB744 3 месяца назад
Another refurb fail.
@pezjme
@pezjme 3 месяца назад
Those controllers lasted forever. I have to get a new ps5 controller every 6 months.
@FTfilm
@FTfilm 3 месяца назад
You are not supposed to throw them at walls you know.
@pezjme
@pezjme 3 месяца назад
@@FTfilm They cost too much for that.
@tambias
@tambias 3 месяца назад
The flashing red light is a hit or a miss on these units.Just a quirk of an old machine.
@VyperByteX
@VyperByteX 3 месяца назад
Except that he displayed exactly why it was doing it. He had to position the game just right for it to work, then when he took it apart the 72 pin connectors were bent, and rusty. It worked on the first try after his work, which is what it should have done out of the box.
@tambias
@tambias 3 месяца назад
@@VyperByteX its easy to pick fault with someone elses work,i have bought refurbished units and they have done exactly the same,their definition of refurbished might not be steves high standards.Just buy a unit at £40 and clean it yourself.Getting sick of these videos from youtubers slagging dkoldies and now this mob.Dont buy their “refurbished “items.You can make content another way.I know steve is ill and filling in the blanks but he is in danger of loosing views as we know all these refurbished websites are crap!
@gamehulk
@gamehulk 3 месяца назад
@@tambias Steve is doing a service by showing what you get buying from these refubished sellers. Sure YOU have bought refurb units and know what to expect, but I have not. You sound like an advanced retro gaming enthusiast and probably just need to unsubscribe move on.
@tambias
@tambias 3 месяца назад
You are missing the point,they are all at it,they are never refurbished properly. in fact hell mend anyone that gives them a penny.
@tambias
@tambias 3 месяца назад
@@gamehulk i am an extremely experienced collecter of retro items and i have watched steve from the start.These videos are getting tedious and he has the capacity for much better content.I think i will decide when i unsubscribe and move on! understand steve is extremely unwell and thats not an ideal situation.There is no harm in dialogue,please appreciate others points of view. if you look on youtube lately every retro/repair youtuber is evaluating refurbished items. Steve has already showed us over many years how to refurb your own consoles so i find the critiques of refurb companies pointless.
@davidadkins6412
@davidadkins6412 3 месяца назад
Nitpicking that's an understatement
@starkwolf933
@starkwolf933 3 месяца назад
Bro,can do more laptop repears?Consoles its Soo Boring🤔
@Mind-your-own-beeswax
@Mind-your-own-beeswax 3 месяца назад
Don’t watch then 🙄🙄
@starkwolf933
@starkwolf933 3 месяца назад
@@Mind-your-own-beeswax If you say sooo🙄🤣🤣🤣
@ANUBUS47
@ANUBUS47 3 месяца назад
are you always so picky when it comes to things you buy lol
@MrFittb
@MrFittb 3 месяца назад
are you not?
@VyperByteX
@VyperByteX 3 месяца назад
Expecting it to function is picky? That's the bare minimum, not really a high standard.
@Smokie_666
@Smokie_666 3 месяца назад
I know I am, when I spend money I expect what I purchased to work as expected. Especially for being a NES, the bar isn't set that high.
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