I will give Vinfast some slack here given my ownership experience with Tesla M3. When I got it in 2019, the screen would freeze periodically, there were random loose bolts making noise, the cabin experience wasn't great (still isn't) and autopilot basically tried to kill me countless times! And without showrooms in Texas, it was a very bad buying experience. I know a lot has changed since but compared to that, your VF8 experience is much better.
That is what Tesla owners always try to forget, they just got used to all the failures The Model 3 had extremely loud wind and road noises, failed wishbone suspension, skewed trunk lids and so much more. The Model X, a 85k car had wild issues the first months, the doors were outright dangerous. In fact all Teslas have and still have wild issues, like auto-break, not functioning rain detection, tanking charging curves + the model specific failures
It’s not a horrible car they seemed to have made improvements. Two of my family members got VF8s because of the lease rates. It’s dirt cheap! But FFS the dealer experience was less than stellar.. As I mentioned the word of mouth element is so so important with a start up brand
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
What a great video to warn all to avoid Vinfast vehicles. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole after this video. Will watch the upcoming videos to confirm my initial impression. Thank God Jordan's stepping up while Kyle bails on her and her sweet dog.
Love how Kyle is so calm when this vs go wrong. also love when Kyle can "I'm doin a video with you sell me a car or won't sell me a car" and it has significant clout! I kinda feel like this is hazing for Francie because no one expects the car to perform and she may be the one stranded.
It looks like you guys bought the vehicle right off Hwy 64 in SW Raleigh. I'm very excited you guys got the VinFast whirlwind experience. It seems to have plenty to go over both good and very bad. Looking forward to more on this. Watching this makes me glad I still have a much more analog vehicle. Imagine having this vehicle in 10 or 12 years from now and all of the problems with so many computer-controlled interfaces. All new vehicles made now are stupidly overly complicated in fact. No thanks... lol
I can't stop laughing. I purchased the VF 8 Plus and after 9 months, VInfast bought it back! So we had a 9 month test drive. For 9 months, nothing but charging problems and critical failures. For charging i used the Vinfast charger to charged my Tesla S and never had a failure. The VF8 wouldn't charge more than 10 minutes and then fail. The car would not remember any of the driver settings, so every time we drove it we had to turn off all the warnings and chimes and the car continued to throw warnings and errors. We took one road trip that was a nightmare! needless to say it was a long 9 months. OTA updates that were promised, never happened and Vinfast came to get the car twice to do the software updates in the shop. Anyway after getting all of our money back we have the Kia EV9 and love it! Now i am going to sell my 2014 Tesla S to buy a R1S. I love the Tesla, great ride, power and all of the tech works great. but the R1S looks like a great replacement.
This video shows one thing for sure. Vinfast needs to work on their software, which for many laymen drivers will definitely be a deal breaker for digitally unprofessional people.
It'd probably still be around in Vietnam. North America? Who knows, depends on how deep their pockets are. Hyundai were ridiculed back in the day too for the Pony.
*The EV is like a smartphone/laptop computer. When you do something that interferes with the EV, it will have a software meltdown. The EV had been fine until after the EVgo charging stations had the connection issues, which probably interfered with the EV software. Of course, all you need to do is to reset it just like a smartphone. If I were you, I would never have used any public charging stations that look bad or are damaged.*
1:07:20 Just love it when everything is on touch screens and hidden submenus (sarcasm) instead having quick to use buttons/nobs. Really makes every manufacturer’s bugs shine like a sore thumb when they stop working while driving. Both Chevrolet and Fords we have do those issues losing USB/Bluetooth connections or just freezing the media center up and have to restart, though my favourite is when it’s too cold and the Chevrolet’s digital stuff stops working, along with the ABS and TC. Lol truly remarkable after the flaming Vinfast received when they first came to North America over their reliability and they’ve still not figured it out. I wouldn’t give this brand to my worst enemy (waste of money), laughable they’re designing a pickup when they still can’t get a handle on what they have.
The media center screen in my 2021 kia soul never has issues with bluetooth/usb connections. If it did I would have been taking it back to the dealer. Part of the reason to get a modern new car is to at least have a good media center already built in! Not surprising ford and chevy still can't figure out good software after 20 years of mediocre software in their vehicles. Ford Sync was one of the worst things ever created.
This experience is what (way too) many people think dealing with Tesla is like. When in fact Tesla in general has a more pleasant and hassle-free buying experience than any other car company on the planet. Bet Vinfast has a PR department 😢
My experience with Electricfied America is to avoid the 350 KW chargers. I own Ford lighting, it to is internally limited to about 150 KWs. The sometimes the 350 KW chargers work and I see a charge rate of about 162KWs. Other times they limit me to about 67 KWs. Their 150 KW chargers are more dependable, and I see an average charge rate of about 123 KWs. By the way, the key fobs were to close the vehicle to test if the doors were locked or not. Almost every vehicle sold today would have reacted the same way this vehicle did, including my Ford.
This reminds me of the story about George Clooney leaving a voicemail about problems with his Tesla. On a different topic we have lots of information about Tesla hardware but we know very little about the software.
@@gocnhinvutru what is the range of VF8 48K? Model Y RWD is 455 Km. How about VF8? Before driving a car, you should confirm the information you have first. If you can't accept the information, you won't go for the next step
yes, of course, it is hard to accept a new car brand with that price. Not like Huyndai or Kia did before. But they will dubut some cheaper models. I just wana say please drive it before compare. If you only like Tesla, EV6, Ioniq, Bz4x, then not thing I ca comment more@@Honest888-e4g
I’m rooting for Vinfast because they are setting up manufacturing here in the US, but they priced this way too high😭. Why would I buy this over the Model Y, VW ID4, Kia Ev6, etc when it’s the same price or even higher….also they need to convert to NACS!
Hey Kyle and Francie, I would grant VinFast a little slack. I'm old enough to remember when Hyundai brought their first car to the US - it was 1986 I think. They were poor quaily then, but look at them now. Anyway I just returned from a business trip to Hanoi, and there are of course VinFast cars everywhere. And go Rams! (our son is a mech engineering student at CSU)
It’s great that he got the car for her, but he didn’t buy the car. He leased it which is a rental agreement unless it’s a „finance lease“ which is uncommon.
I think Vietnam is making the right move at this time to invest in EVs. I guess they will have time to iron out the flaws and become a respectable player in the long run. If they had to compete at making ICE, they probably wouldn't be able to win globally. Ev's aren't easy, but they are a lot easier than ICE.
39:43 The number of factors required for Kyle to not be familiar with Nancy Drew but be able to reference Encyclopedia Brown yet still somehow confuse him with Curious George is actually impressive
I am hopeful for Vietnam industry. I am very much reminded of the Hyundai story, having myself been the proud owner of a first generation Hyundai Excel, the sub-$7k 1986 "powerhouse" lol. It was deemed a joke of poor quality at the time. Fast forward, and look at Hyundai today! I hope for as successful a growth and improvement trajectory for Vinfast. Honestly, my Excel experience was instructive. As much as several details aggravated me,---rubbery imprecise manual shifter, anemic acceleration that forced me to shut off a/c when starting from a traffic light, just to keep up with traffic, to the unsupportive bucket seats, that little car nevertheless was still going "fine" when I sold it after 182K miles on the odo.
Hyundai Excel was the cheapest car you could buy when it came out. Yugo was cheaper but you couldn't go anywhere with Yugo as it was often no-go. haha This VinFast is 52K+, more expensive than Tesla Y. If VinFast wanted to be like Hyundai, the Vinfast VF8 shouldn't cost more than 30K.
@@mspsysagreed. I think Tesla set a model in the ev world of releasing more expensive models first, as the technology is new, and they seek to cover rnd costs. It seems the other car companies are following Tesla's lead. But maybe they shouldn't in this case. Vinfast has a concept for a very simple, sub-$20k car that is cute as a Tonka Truck. Depending on range, I'd consider buying it. A simple vehicle will be far easier to them to iron out the wrinkles from.
@@michaelanders6161 VinFast is only able to compete and sell cars in Vietnam due to insane 65% tax/tariff imposed on imported vehicles. Toyota Corolla costs almost $80K in Vietnam, making it real easy for VinFast to stay profitable in the domestic market. Chinese EV makers are flooding the EU market right now. Since 2021, Chinese EV market share grew by 361%!! While the Chinese EV makers had to survive & become good w/o any government subsidy, which is allowing them to dominate the EU market now, VinFast is nothing but a vapor ware, only staying in existence due to government subsidy.
@@chungloankenny Because he MUST TAKE the cross-country trip to San-Francisco and he stayed FOUR days in SC even though he was promised by the dealer that he gets the car on Thursday, then it becomes Friday, then Saturday, then Monday and still not ready. What kind of dealer does thing like that? Your ears were punched when you were young so you can't understand human's explanation?
A cross country trip won't tell the whole story? What counts as a "true" owner? Not leasing the car? Weird statement to make with little to no merit as to what a "True" anything is.
@@JonathanRootDFrancie deserves to be treated so much better than this. Sticking her with an unproven vehicle with known reliability problems for a long roadtrip home. That's a real loser move, Kyle. That's not hazing, that's endangerment.
Green ages the worst of all colors. Think 80s forest green 90s teal green 00s dark green 10s lime green. Silver is the best for age. Put a silver beside a green car of any era and the silver car will look newer.
As someone who got in on the 2019 Ioniq EV $0 down $99/mo lease deal, I feel like this is the next logical step, despite the flaws. :-) What a deal! Hopefully an OTA update comes quickly to solve some of these issues...
Have you purchased the car after the lease? I bet they offered you money on 2022 for returning the vehicle because it was the height of the used car prices! Such a good purchase by the way!
For whatever weird reason I’m more excited about this series than any of your other recent videos. OK I was probably more excited for the cyber truck stuff but other than that one this seems super interesting.
It tells you the VIN, all the time, by loudly beeping it at you in morse code. Some reviewers incorrectly said those were "warning beeps," but actually it is a feature so that you never forget the VIN. EVER.
hey, you guide good. if I am review this car..... you can hear a lot of FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFF PHO-FRANKYYYYYYYY---- 3/10 IS STILL TOO HIGH.... - I WILL GIVE IT -3/10 CAR FOR FREE i AM STILL DON'T WANT IT.
Thats cool. I just went to Vietnam for 3 weeks over christmas und saw many of them, even drove in a Vinfast Taxi. Also the charging stations they build up all over Vietnam are impressive.
So you had a bad buying experience after you demanded that they sell you a car they said had some software issues they were trying to get fixed first... and then the software had an issue? And you made a video that focuses on those two things? I really appreciate all the very in-depth reviews that you do, but it feels like you very much were fishing for this. It very well could be that this all would still happen after the software "fix" but this isn't truly representative of the buyer experience, is it?
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
It honestly looks greatly improved from a year ago even with the current problems. I've been seeing some other more recent videos looking at it again too. They're certainly trying to improve.
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
You need to chill man. The car buying experience does take time. Just because you want it today doesn’t mean they can deliver it today. What was the VIN of the vehicle you prearranged and reserved prior to flying into Raleigh? And to say you’re going to do a video that “VinFast won’t sell me a car” is not only ridiculous, it’s unfairly deceptive. I’m no VinFast convert (and clearly they still have software issues to be resolved), but let’s be fair here, OK? Thanks. Chris
Honestly if they keep updating it and get the bugs fixed, that lease is a steal. You're basically getting a massive discount to beta test (I guess a year ago it was more like alpha testing?) It's tempting. But also how many 2023's are left; sounds like VF is moving through the inventory now at this pricing (the strategy worked) Also that green is the best color. I think the Green on Brown VF9 looks pretty gorgeous actually
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
Mới đầu tôi cũng không tin hãng này nhưng khi chải nhiệm tôi đã quyết định mua nó một chiếc xe tốt và tôi hài lòng .họ rất cầu thị và hỗ trợ cho khách hàng tốt nhất.
Hey Kyle, I have watched your reviewed on VF8. I think you should take it easy on VF8 bro. I know there are a lot of big car companies out there that have a lot of problems too. They keep having recall issues all the time. I have owned many different brands of cars in the past because I love to switch cars every few years. They all have problems and I have to bring them in to get it fixed. Vinfast is a newcomer, I personally think they are doing a very good job. They did listen and fixed most of the problems in a short period. Therefore, I think you should take it easy and stop looking down on them bro. I start to feel that you are a little bit bias against them. You can give them feedback so they can fix the problem but please try to say in a nicer way. lol ,,, Hence, they are building their manufacturer in the U.S and that's mean they are creating jobs for us. It is all Positive. Peace Bro.
How much does a VinFast car cost? 49000 is dollars 2023 VinFast VF 8 Features Specs Base MSRP Excludes Destination Fee How much is the Tesla Model Y out the door? Pricing starts at $43,990. A maximum range of up to 310 miles, the latest tech, and a starting price under $40k (if you qualify for the federal EV tax credit) give the Tesla Model Y enough mainstream appeal to be the best-selling electric vehicle in the United States. No brainer, vicious competition
@@ldgnotebook Tesla Model Y is just an iPad on Wheels. It’s cheap for a REASON. Did you see the luxury features on the VF8 vs the Model Y? Apple Car Play/Android Auto/Alexa, HUD, moonroof that opens/closes, has electric sunshade cover, blind spot indicator, to name a few..
This is interesting, and so was my first EV purchase, back in 2019 bought a 2019 Soul EV Limited (30kwh), live of coast (on the Sunshine Coast so a ferry ride to pickup the car in North Vancouver), and it was stellar till my infotainment system went blank! Had to take a ferry back to service and to find out the car was never taken out of shipping mode, talk about a messy predelivery inspection! They flicked the switch to delivered mode, paid for the ferry and everything was fine again but that blew away 3/4 of a day as the ferry only runs every 2 hours.
Not sure how you both are so calm -- I would have been polite and understanding, but I would have lost my mind with that buying process along with the first drive etc. But in summary, it does appear that the car isn't ready for "prime time" yet
I mean it not really that bad ,ppl just some how hate it ,It been had alot of negative comment since it not even release ,hardly beleave some1 still buy it ,just the price is too hight
The color is beautiful… It looks a lot like the color of our 24 years old Toyota Avensis… That color is called Racing Green, which was the color for British race cars in the 50’s I think.
He actually said $250 a month who cares it’s pile of crap. Reminds me I can get a Nissan leaf prior to Covid for $89 a month which was not really a pile of crap that long ago
I live in Vietnam so it's cool to see this. It's not on par (quality, price or feature wise) with the competition but it is cool for a homegrown Vietnamese company coming out of nowhere. Let's see where it goes, thanks for testing
Chúc mừng Kely đã sở hữu xe VF8 đời 2023 với nhiều ưu đãi về giá cả.Để thuần thục sử dụng xe VF8 mong Kely tham gia vào Cộng đồng VF ở Cali....nơi người dùng xe VF thường xuyên trao đổi kinh nghiệm khai thác các tính năng thông minh của xe....Chúc Kely thành công hài lòng với VF8
Yes you did better with the Vinfast DC charging, I would be at stuck at the DC charger with my once owned 2023 Ioniq 5 AWD Limited, I took delivery drove it home, home charged it at home on level 2 no issues, then 2 weeks after delivery tried DC charging it failed, 7 months and 6 service visits finally fixed it and I sold it, my Tesla Model Y AWD Long Range is now a road tripper!
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
Hello there. I have the VF8 plus and when the car doesn't shut down. Simply go into camp mode and leave it. I do have that problem myself some time. For the charge thing in the charger, make sure to push the gun into the socket. Inside the car top left of the screen, you can press the batteries logo to see the battery options. I have never gone over 100kw personally. Probably a software issue with updates will be fixed. The freezing screen is because of the cell phones. If you have questions about the car. Feel free to ask me. 😊😊
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
Hey Kyle, since you get to be around these new EV automakers maybe you could them there should be a pop-up message on the screen on EVs like the Bolt that tells the driver at one of those DC fast charging stations that the charging will be limited because your vehicle can only handle this much kilowatt.
@@chris55top- I’m with you, Chris. They gave up on their single chargers here in Michigan seemingly years ago, way before EV sales started to ramp. I can think of 5 or 6 single chargers around metro Detroit that we’d love to have operational, which apparently have been left for dead. We can only hope they get replaced with new, since the charging locations are sort of quaint.
@@chungloankenny Because he MUST TAKE the cross-country trip to San-Francisco and he stayed FOUR days in SC even though he was promised by the dealer that he gets the car on Thursday, then it becomes Friday, then Saturday, then Monday and still not ready. What kind of dealer does thing like that? Your ears were punched when you were young so you can't understand human's explanation?
@@chungloankenny As a Vietnamese, a car enthusiast and a long-time watcher of Kyle and Out Of Spec, I don't see his team wanting to make dirty contents about VinFast at all. In fact, I quite like it when his team made videos about VinFast and made VinFast a bit more popular. I have to admit the car isn't perfect, however, VinFast's efforts trying to react quickly to the problems are worth applauding. Upcoming Out Of Spec videos about VinFast is exciting to me.
Some new car brands break into the mainstream while others just break. In the 1980's my Dad would have had more reliable motoring if he had Honda's and Toyotas instead of Rovers and Fords. In the 2000's a Kia would have been better value than the VW's and Skoda's I drove. I am in the UK and drive a Chinese MG 5 EV. I chose it partly because I can afford it but also, maybe in the future re received wisdom will be that the smart money was spent on MG. More Vinfast video's please so we can see if this car is value for someone. We can't all afford a Tesla for trips to the shops.
So awsome that you bought this car yourself. 😂 Vinfast looked to be a big joke when they started to appear outside of Vietnam. But now after watching the first episode i quit kind a like it🤗 I will follow your journey the next 3 years closely😅 Go Go Francis🙏🎉
@OutofSpecReviews with recent developement, specifically the broken front wheel in LA this week. That proves these cars are unsafe for the road. Should be grounded immediately. Should definably not let Francine drive this anymore. Keep up the good work!
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
"Software defined vehicles" WHERE DO I SIGN!?!?!? Is VinFast a car company or a tech company? Or do they change what kind of company they are based on the narrative they are trying to push at that time like Tesla? What a freaking joke. I THOROUGHLY enjoy watching these all-EV companies crash and burn. GARBAGE. FYI I live in Raleigh. Leith Auto Group is an excellent network of dealerships. I've purchased many cars from them across multiple brands. Never had an issue. To have the COO of such a large and esteemed dealer group say something like that to you is UNHEARD OF. I think that expresses their current sentiment on the brand. My guess, they will drop this brand after this first model year. I think the only reason they accepted the brand is because they are building a VinFast factory nearby. I think they bought into the EV hype and didn't want to miss out. Stupid stupid stupid.
