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I Bought an AMD GPU for More Freedom 

Mental Outlaw
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I finally got an AMD card for a better Linux experience.
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Комментарии : 991   
@RealCyberCrime
@RealCyberCrime Год назад
It’s not a free country until I can download more RAM
@dr-deep8353
@dr-deep8353 Год назад
9p protocol
@markm0000
@markm0000 Год назад
You can technically download a SSD with Ramdisk lol.
@MentalOutlaw
@MentalOutlaw Год назад
just use cloud storage as swap space
@gearfriedtheswmas
@gearfriedtheswmas Год назад
Would you download a car?
@EmuEmuchu
@EmuEmuchu Год назад
Freedom
@jokroast6912
@jokroast6912 Год назад
PROUD OF YOU! I am about to get myself a Radeon RX 6000 series high end card myself. Good for you man!
@MentalOutlaw
@MentalOutlaw Год назад
I was tempted to get one of those, I might do a high end AMD card in the future if I can pair it with a ryzen CPU optimized for it.
@MrTheinfoman
@MrTheinfoman Год назад
@@MentalOutlaw Sadly that AMD mess up the new 7000 gpu since the performance was meh plus the amd gpu being overheating
@izcoatpv
@izcoatpv Год назад
Saw a 6850 XT for cheap, I was very tempted to go for it
@kaptain1477
@kaptain1477 Год назад
@@MentalOutlaw 5800x3D and 6900xt for gaming
@fiethsing9988
@fiethsing9988 Год назад
@@MrTheinfoman AMD needs months to ramp up their releases, give it half a year and let's see what happens.
@knghtbrd
@knghtbrd Год назад
The RX 580 is quite a useful GPU if you're not doing a whole lot of modern gaming on Linux-I actually gave up a GTX 980 for it some years ago (pre-pandemic) and was QUITE glad I did so, even though the 980 was technically a faster card. It was so worth it to have Linux be far more stable and have video stuff actually just work the way it's supposed to. Since the games I play don't require anything newer, I kept that GPU throughout the pandemic and only upgraded it last year when it was clear the RX 580 couldn't drive my new monitor's higher resolution effectively. I won't be going back to any card from nvidia so long as proprietary bullshit is required to use the card.
@Luke357
@Luke357 Год назад
I used to use a 980 and a 1650S both were faster than the 580 except in Linux using DXVK then the 580 was noticibly faster than the 980 and on par with the 1650S. Probably due to the fact that the 16 series of cards has good Vulkan optimization while the 900 series has OK but not great Vulkan optimization while the 580 has very good Vulkan optimization.
@RealMephres
@RealMephres Год назад
@@Luke357 AMD's drivers are universally more optimized for Vulkan and Vulkan-based APIs (NixGL or the one from the guys that made Gamemode are good examples for that), while they are starting to become better in regards to utilizing OpenGL now, too. AMD's drivers also are quite a fair bit smaller, thus less redundant code and possibly regression of performance is less frequent than with NVIDIA.
@NewLondonMarshall
@NewLondonMarshall 10 месяцев назад
I still have a gtx 970, I am looking to either upgrade to a 4070 or an rx 6800 xt. Not sure which yet!
@pankoza2
@pankoza2 7 месяцев назад
Because you know what Linus Torvalds once said about NVidia
@ruthlessadmin
@ruthlessadmin Год назад
Can confirm. I got a 6900XT earlier this (edit: last) year and I am very pleased with its performance, other than ray tracing, which is already bad in Windows and way worse in Linux so far. Other than that, it has been stable across multiple distros for me.
@spicynoodle7419
@spicynoodle7419 Год назад
RT is still a meme. Almost no games have it and Devs are already abandoning it because it's extra work (Nvidia promised RT would make development easier)
@Winnetou17
@Winnetou17 Год назад
@@spicynoodle7419 Not sure if copium or trolling. Devs are not abandoning RT, though you can say that the adoption rate is still rather slow. But unlike things like PhysX, it won't disappear. Soon all AAA that care about a graphics score will have RT. On the indie scene it will be probably completely missing for many years, except things made with Unreal Engine with Lumen. Probably Unity will have something like that too in not-so-distant future, if it doesn't already have (didn't check)
@TheSuperBoyProject
@TheSuperBoyProject Год назад
Earlier this year? So yesterday?
@freevbucks8019
@freevbucks8019 Год назад
Did you know that opengl is 50% faster on linux?
@zeroskill.
@zeroskill. Год назад
i have random 80% frame loss on the same card and no clue as to why if anyone can share their experiences?
@godsena_
@godsena_ Год назад
AMD all the way, made the switch recently myself from nvidia + intel (i5 4th gen + gtx970) to full AMD (5800x + 6900xt) and the performance increase is insane. Dont really care much for Ray tracing since i cant really tell the difference and only a handful of titles support it. AMD cards were just generally cheaper too.
@themightywhatever4884
@themightywhatever4884 Год назад
Performance increase is obvious if you're upgrading from 8 years old hardware to fairly recent one. Good on you though, my i7 8700k is 5 years old now I can feel it in almost every game.
@godsena_
@godsena_ Год назад
@@themightywhatever4884 yeah was a big leap generationally but my old specs still ran pretty well for moderate work loads. In all honesty though most systems after 6th gen nowadays run very similarly for day to day desktop tasks (browsing, text editing, etc.) provided they are using a M2 SSD and bonus for a lightweight distro. Or at least i cant tell much of a difference. Really only major increase i see are being able to run more tasks at once and increased FPS/graphics quality in games
@kjererrt7804
@kjererrt7804 Год назад
i envy you in a good way
@dunhill919
@dunhill919 Год назад
I had an AMD card before (7 years ago) and the software experience was terrible which made me switch to a 2060 super. I hope AMD is as reliable now
@robertkeaney9905
@robertkeaney9905 Год назад
AMD CPU's are getting cheaper to. I recently got an 5900x on sale for 235 dollars. And the thread count jump from rendering on my 4 thread dual core laptop to rendering on a proper rig with 12 cores, that was absolutely game changing. The difference between sitting on something for hours to having a similar task done in 20 to 30 minutes. The time you save on Rendering with modern hardware is absolutely unbelievable. I still remember trying to do graphic design work on my grandmothers' computer. Where it took 1 minute per frame to render something out. fucking incredible it is
@metroided34
@metroided34 Год назад
Went from 1070 to an RX 6600 and im having a god damn blast, getting RTX 3060 TI performance for less than half of the price. Haven't had any of the famous driver issues, im so glad i went red after all this years.
@thomasb1521
@thomasb1521 Год назад
As someone who has built multiple AMD pcs since mid 2020, the driver issues are basically gone now. The only issues you get is with performance on newer cards.
@aladdin8623
@aladdin8623 Год назад
The RX 6600 beats a GTX 1080 by only consuming half the electric power of the latter. The RX 6600 is one of the most efficient cards for gamers. The fans are quite due to very low heatput even under load.
@stchman
@stchman 7 дней назад
The RTX3060Ti is a much faster video card than a RX6600.
@TVAwesomeParodys
@TVAwesomeParodys Год назад
Switched to using an AMD card before the end of 2022 and it is just a much better experience than using a NVIDIA card for me, especially when using Wayland. When I used a NVIDIA card, I didn’t want to use Wayland on it because the experience wouldn’t be as good as an AMD card, which meant I had to give up mixed refresh rates on two monitors and I had to only use one monitor to play games in 144hz. Now with Wayland on an AMD card, I don’t have to switch to X11 and use only one monitor to just play games in 144hz.
@relt_
@relt_ Год назад
Bro got a graphics card on new year
@TVAwesomeParodys
@TVAwesomeParodys Год назад
@@relt_ - Sorry about that, I didn’t mean to word my comment like that. I didn’t actually get a graphics card on New Year’s. I just got confused since it was the start of a new year. I’ll edit my comment and fix that.
@victor133xx
@victor133xx Год назад
I was using a RX 580 before I recently got my RTX 3070 Ti card, could handle any game, and usually on medium-high graphics. Really awesome card. Hope you enjoy it. C:
@youraveragemetalhead226
@youraveragemetalhead226 Год назад
The RX 580 is just such a solid GPU for a tight budget
@realcartoongirl
@realcartoongirl Год назад
Victor i am so Honey your profile picture
@victor133xx
@victor133xx Год назад
@Kanyewestisfree Yea, that was one of the deciding issues. I had also been researching and found that AMD's FSR generally isn't as good as Nvidia's DLSS yet. Hopefully in the future when I get a new GPU it will be. Also RTX cards were cheaper at the time by a bunch, and for more performance. Don't get me wrong, I like AMD as a company more than NVIDIA. I'm even using a AMD processor currently.
@kjererrt7804
@kjererrt7804 Год назад
@@youraveragemetalhead226 it used to be a high-end card back in 2016. time flies.
@Winnetou17
@Winnetou17 Год назад
@@orlfman It's true, though NVidia started to open source their drivers, though only the ones for RTX 3000 or 2000 onwards. If they truly continue that path, he might be enjoying good, open source drivers for his 3070 Ti. Though it's been a bit silent on that front, I wouldn't bet on it happening. But can certainly hope so.
@TrickyNekro
@TrickyNekro Год назад
Good on you! Unfortunately there are some of us that are locked in some ecosystems because of some simulators. But hey, if you can afford it, AMD seems a much more reasonable choice right now.
@Demopans5990
@Demopans5990 Год назад
Yeah, basically a lot of toolchains have easy CUDA support, and what cards have CUDA?....
@grhmhome
@grhmhome Год назад
I have a RX 6750 XT. When I used to have a Nvidia card, I had lots of issues on Linux and was limited to proprietary drivers. Using AMD gpu's on Linux is a great choice. I thought I was locked out from using AI software like stable diffusion, but it works with my card.
@lucasew
@lucasew Год назад
My main concern with amd cards is about CUDA, or in this case HIP I use blender and some ml stuff and nvidia still has much better support for this kind of software.
@asplmn
@asplmn Год назад
I sincerely hope ROCm gets mainstream adoption. CUDA is a mess, but is a necessary evil for HPC.
@Whalester
@Whalester Год назад
I agree, CUDA is way better in that field. I have used lots of software and and even some blender add-ons that only run on CUDA. Also MAYA only renders on CUDA
@Home_Rich
@Home_Rich Год назад
This.
@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX
@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX Год назад
As a 3D guy myself, I just ended up using windows with Nvidia, it just ended up saving me mayor headaches in the long run, its the price to pay sadly. Still im going to build a secondary Linux system with my 6800XT that I have, but my win10 RTX3090 will be my daily driver for that
@coler154
@coler154 Год назад
@@ChicoDaChina Source?
@Woodywoodah
@Woodywoodah Год назад
Same. I got a 6800XT and Ryzen 5950X in a new rig a little while back because I wanted it to work well with Linux, and I wanted to support hardware vendors who embrace open source. I recently purchased a Steam Deck with similar motivations. Vote with your dollars! I'm running Arch too btw!
@p5eudo883
@p5eudo883 Год назад
Welcome to the team. I had always gotten nVidia cards (EVGA specifically), and chose to switch to AMD and get a 6900XT for my last build. I'm a Linux gamer. AMD is the way to go.
@gaurav1231928
@gaurav1231928 4 месяца назад
Hello m8, I know this comment is quite old but would appreciate a little insight into your experience gaming on Linux :) thanks
@p5eudo883
@p5eudo883 4 месяца назад
@@gaurav1231928 I'm very happy with it. There are definitely some frustrating moments. Gamers who have no patience will find it difficult or intolerable to switch. Some games are just off the table. If you're someone who is against Microsoft's shady behavior and increasing tendency to act like they have more rights to your computer than you do, it's probably worth making the switch. I find most gamers are pretty spineless and will bend over backwards to excuse Microsoft's actions if it means they get their fix with whatever games they're into. That sometimes turns into Windows gamers making snide remarks on forums when discussing bugs or issues with the Linux version of games. If you take pride in standing against injustices, Linux gaming is the way to go. Especially if you enjoy solving problems and having the choice to customize your system in all sorts of ways. I personally recommend AMD video cards for this, as the open-source drivers are FAR better than the default Nouveau drivers for nVidia cards, due to AMD actually cooperating with the open source community. nVidia's proprietary drivers are available and do work well most of the time. But I had some massive headaches dealing with them in the past. With Wayland, the desktop experience is great. Smooth window movement without tearing that sometimes is an issue on Xorg. Xorg may be necessary if you want to use OBS, though. But at a high refresh rate (144hz or more) the screen tearing while moving windows isn't very noticeable. Protondb is a great place to check for compatibility with Windows-only games. I've got a few of them that I play often. Due to devs mostly testing on Windows systems, there are cases where a Windows version of a game running with Proton will perform better than the native Linux version. ARK is a great example of that. I'm not sure if their Linux version even works anymore. It was horrible last I tried it. Anyway, I say give it a shot. If you're looking to commit long-term, be prepared for the occasional hiccup and need to solve problems. But knowing you're one of the few gamers who is taking a stand and showing some backbone is far more rewarding than playing some title that only runs on Windows, IMO.
@williamjames9211
@williamjames9211 Год назад
I personally own an RX580 8GB and I love it. It’s a great card and I drive 3 monitors at high frame rates and high resolutions and even do gaming on it and it handles every task so well for the money! Congrats on your purchase
@System-zu7np
@System-zu7np Год назад
I've been using an AMD 290x over 5 years, that baby still works fine, gaming included. I am temporarily swapping to a 1060 atm because i got it from family and am really looking forward going back to amd asap. But at least now i got Vulkan support :,) Congratulations on coming to the blessed AMD side of things.
@ForGamezCZ
@ForGamezCZ Год назад
good for you man I'm hoping to get AMD someday myself too
@Fractal_32
@Fractal_32 Год назад
Depending on the AMD card you want you can find them cheap on eBay or Amazon.
@angryman9333
@angryman9333 Год назад
Its easy to get but ebay doesnt ship to middle east
@ENNEN420
@ENNEN420 Год назад
It's about time. Welcome to the ascended redchad club. Also lets be honest here, being able to run wayland just fine isn't really a perk, its just that pre-order bonus keychain you lost years ago and forget you even had until you find it 5 years later while cleaning.
@Kaknes22
@Kaknes22 Год назад
I recently re-installed my PC. Going from Windows 10 to EndeavourOS. I am running 1080ti currently and it pretty much worked out of the box. Very happy with the distro so far and I am glad I switched to it :) I primarily play games and Proton is just cracked. Runs every game I have played so far either runs the game 1:1 or very close it. I have had some hiccups while learning it but very fun so far :)
@Skelterbane69
@Skelterbane69 Год назад
Endeavour sure is nice (except for the rolling releases, but that's a personal thing anyway)
@abritabroadinthephilippines
Love the ThinkPad 👍 RX 5600 XT Mech OC user here. 🥂
@AshnSilvercorp
@AshnSilvercorp Год назад
When I first hopped into Linux over a year ago I immediately chose an AMD 6000 series card after realizing that it has a FOSS driver out of the box. I didn't have to do much of a thing at all. Now VAAPI is kinda wonky with AMD cause I think it usually relies on AMDGPUPro, but tbh... the workarounds with lib setups are better than handing your GPU handling over to the company...
@AshnSilvercorp
@AshnSilvercorp Год назад
@pogodemon that's exactly the workaround I use to get GPU recording done.
@spicynoodle7419
@spicynoodle7419 Год назад
Try ROCm
@mendoxx097
@mendoxx097 Год назад
can it be called FOSS if it has some proprietary blobs? just asking, n00b here.
@AshnSilvercorp
@AshnSilvercorp Год назад
@@mendoxx097 depends on what you need done. Are you looking for purism to achieve perfect security based on what you do? Or are you an average schmo who plays steam games? If you do the latter a few blobs that aren't the absolute core of dependencies rarely matter to you.
@dokichokei
@dokichokei 8 месяцев назад
​@mendoxx097 those blobs run on the GPU itself, so its not really a concern from a security/paranoia standpoint.
@foreveruknown4899
@foreveruknown4899 Год назад
I personally last month upgraded from a RX580 XFX 8GB that I had for about 5 years to a RX6700XT XFX, the RX580 is pretty impressive by all means, still capable of playing any modern game, albeit its age is starting to show with games like Snowrunner running on Low and Forza Horizon 5 running on Med-High. Past that overclocking can usually get pretty far with the card aswell.
@bradleyblexrude1482
@bradleyblexrude1482 Год назад
You do get access to the other 512 megs of vram on the gtx 970, but it was way way slower.
@hedgeearthridge6807
@hedgeearthridge6807 Год назад
I bought a 6700xt after the crypto crash, and I'm never looking back! The ability to install any distro I want, and not having to solve screen tearing and driver issues for hours, is absolutely magical. You install and it just works!
@tallskinnygeek
@tallskinnygeek Год назад
When you're searching the lspci output, you can pipe it to less and use the search feature, or slap a context flag (-C or -A could work) on that grep
@anonl5877
@anonl5877 Год назад
If it runs Tensorflow and Pytorch well, that would be a huge factor for some developers.
@Shuroii
@Shuroii Год назад
It does but with a fat asterisk, it takes more tinkering and doesn't always work quite as well but it works most of the time
@someoneelse4811
@someoneelse4811 Год назад
​@@Shuroii And if your card is too old, like the RX 580 shown that runs on the Polaris architecture, getting those to run at all is a huge pain. In my case, impossible.
@xxslaysminecraftxx1094
@xxslaysminecraftxx1094 Год назад
deviously based
@davidmalkowski7850
@davidmalkowski7850 Год назад
On the topic of AMD GPUs, I really hope Thunderbolt 5 becomes a solid interface. PCIE 4.0 x4 speeds would be perfect for the RX 6500XT. It could be a fantastic eGPU enclosure!
@akosv96
@akosv96 Год назад
I'm hoping USB 4 goes more mainstream as it has thunderbolt speeds without the intel proprietary bullshit.
@Amfneey
@Amfneey Год назад
I've been thinking about trying an AMD Card myself. I really like NVidia, I have currently a 3080 12gb, but I feel like I could get much better bang for the buck with an AMD card. I was able to get that 12gb 3080 for about $800 USD plus tax, so about $860, and that wasn't a bad deal, since back when GPU's were still bad, 3080's, even 3070's were going for over $1000. Even though it's a Gigabyte model, which I've heard people have mixed feelings about Gigabyte GPU's, it's worked pretty well for me, and seems to get decent temps. GPU's just need to drop in price already, but I don't see it happening. I see them only getting more and more expensive. Great video, Outlaw. Happy New Year!
@Your_Degenerate
@Your_Degenerate Год назад
I recently went the opposite route going from an RX 550 to a GTX 1060 3GB. The main reason being to utilize software that requires Cuda. There have been some hickups on the Linux side but so far not too bad. AMD GPUs are certainly a smoother experience out of the box though for general use.
@geeshta
@geeshta Год назад
I was honestly surprised when you presented your build a while back you were using Nvidia in the first place. Congratulations on switching!
@notuxnobux
@notuxnobux Год назад
opencl only works with the proprietary driver though lol and the most important things in amd are implemented in the proprietary firmware
@alouisschafer7212
@alouisschafer7212 Год назад
Gonna pick up a discounted or used 6800XT or 6900XT soon as my next GPU for the next 5 years. AMD these days is really solid. RDNA3 is just one big broken promise though imo 😅
@markm0000
@markm0000 Год назад
I am never going to buy a used GPU now that crypto is mainstream. All those used cards are out of warranty and probably worn out. There's no way to know how many hours or what heat cycles they've been through.
@alouisschafer7212
@alouisschafer7212 Год назад
@@markm0000 I just talk to the sellers.
@NUCLEARARMAMENT
@NUCLEARARMAMENT Год назад
@@DunoCZ A miner card will actually be better treated than a gaming card, since mining workloads put a constant load on the card. Gaming workloads are inconsistent and all over the place. Miners are also incentivized to properly cool the card's core and memory (i.e., where do you think those custom copper heat plates for Ampere/30 series cards' memory ICs came from? They were from miners).
@fiethsing9988
@fiethsing9988 Год назад
I'm picky, haven't bothered with secondhand stuff after mining became a thing. Had a friend get baited into buying a used card that died in like months.
@alouisschafer7212
@alouisschafer7212 Год назад
@@DunoCZ miners often use special mining VBIOS for more efficiency simply running the card into its powerlimit on the regular gaming focused Vbios is inefficient
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter Год назад
Yeah, i started to want to mainly use linux due to all the spooky things Microsoft does. Quite a bit late maybe but is never late for security. I was fine with windows 10 because i used some debloating tools, but one of my tipping points was how they are aggressively pushing 'Chromium InternetExplorer' A.K.A. Edge; also my mental health will be better the sooner i get off windows. I'm having some problems about the distros, i didn't like PoP OS, on Arch based distros there is too much of a hassle to install some apps that i normally use. Right now my Mint liveusb is being set up and i'm going to see what's up.
@Fractal_32
@Fractal_32 Год назад
Linux Mint is a great choice, hopefully you enjoy it. :) I would suggest Arch Linux if you’re trying any Arch based distribution purely because a manual Arch installation has you make all the choices on what you want your system will look like and what it’s use case is. Arch Linux is a little bit more advanced/hands on than an already setup distribution but it’s very rewarding once it is setup/configured.
@ThisIsTheBestAnime
@ThisIsTheBestAnime Год назад
I recently chose OpenSUSE Tumbleweed as my first daily driver distro, and my experience has been very positive, especially as the kind of user that enjoys having options and understanding what's going on. Program installation with YaST is quite easy and comfortable & alternative installation methods are available too. You can also configure almost everything by GUI if you want to, which helps to soften the learning curve. Btrfs as default file system manager makes rolling back configuration problems really easy too through auto-generated snapshots.
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter Год назад
Managed to install Mint, i like the aesthetic and the feel of it, very responsive and classy. Tho i need to use QtScrcpy and i'm having a problem about libQt5X11Extras.so.5 Not found. No idea how to solve it, been trying stuff without success.
@Heshamelfakharani
@Heshamelfakharani Год назад
@@Splarkszter try installing it with apt-get without "so.5"
@jessecato8681
@jessecato8681 Год назад
Check out Zorin 16, super polished Ubunfu-based OS
@TheJackiMonster
@TheJackiMonster Год назад
Also something many people miss out is the ability to switch Vulkan or OpenGL drivers during runtime with AMD gpus. You can start an application with any preferred driver of choice for the graphics API its using (in case of most games: Vulkan). That means you can look at benchmarks and pick the best choice depending on performance or when using a newer graphics card, it might matter to get access to certain features. (There is a whole entry in the Arch wiki about it.) Besides being useful for getting the best performance in games, you can make use of this as a graphics developer as well. Because testing your own code with multiple different drivers is extremely easy. Another addition is that the open-source validation layers for Vulkan are actually reliable in comparison with using Nvidia's proprietary drivers. So to make sure an application works properly across different graphics hardware and drivers, it's much better to use RADV with an AMD gpu. I've encountered multiple occurences when I could pinpoint a bug in API usage which an Nvidia driver simply ignored despite actual specification violations in the my code (before applying the fix). Those reasons (especially the last one) are enough for me to not even being interested in Nvidia gpus anymore until we have an open-source driver for them being comparable. Because I'm not interested in not being able to properly debug my code.
@sgtwisky
@sgtwisky Год назад
as someone with an RX580 I can say, it punches way above its weight class to this day. Got me one back when Vega came out and wasn't amazing. Been gaming on it ever since. Though it is starting to show its age. Been looking into some other used options like the RX 5700xt that is not too expensive on ebay atm. EDIT: and for the last 18 months or so Ive been using my RX 580 to game on Linux with a pretty high success rate on getting windows games working. Though millage on non Linux games may vary.
@blank-mq8ef
@blank-mq8ef Год назад
Man I've been using Linux for the past 2 years and I've been using an rx580 for the past 3 years, honestly even for gaming the card is amazing. The only thing I really need to upgrade is my ryzen 5 1600x
@blank-mq8ef
@blank-mq8ef Год назад
Also fucks sake 80 bucks? Irish second hand market best i found that for a few months ago while looking to upgrade my bros pc was 350
@blank-mq8ef
@blank-mq8ef Год назад
@@anon-means-anon I'm prob gonna go to another ryzen 5, but money tight, especially after Christmas
@project5799
@project5799 Год назад
FYI you won't be able to run a full linux libre distro with an AMD GPU, it requires some binary blobs that are not included, you may be able to get the framebuffer rendering working on newer not yet released kernels (6.2+), and you might still get away with using the linux libre kernel only as it should be able to load blobs from userspace.
@grievetan
@grievetan Год назад
amd gpus are great when you need additional heating source for your room 🔥🔥🔥
@MentalOutlaw
@MentalOutlaw Год назад
I should run it in a single loop water cooling system with the 3970x, the water might get hot enough to make ramen.
@illusionithink5976
@illusionithink5976 Год назад
LITERALLY BEEN DOING THAT LMFAO
@garfreld
@garfreld Год назад
40 series power consumption:
@grievetan
@grievetan Год назад
@@garfreld 40 series are still new and mostly untested graphic cards. RTX 3060 is a beast for example though. And never goes hotter than +60 Celsius. For me AMD is great when it comes for CPU'S only.
@gearfriedtheswmas
@gearfriedtheswmas Год назад
And it's 2015
@Haelikor
@Haelikor Год назад
Didn't expect to see my card pop up in this. lol Been using it for several years. Plan on upgrading sometime this year but it's done me good.
@Gunzy83
@Gunzy83 Год назад
I've been using Linux on the desktop at home and for work for the last decade (brief foray into windows for the occasional game). Glad to see how far AMD has come, it was not always this rosey. When I switched I had a Radeon card and the experience was so terrible I sold the card and got a GTX 660 which with a little tweaking worked well for a long time. My current water-cooled 1080Ti has been nothing but fantastic under Solus and Manjaro though admittedly I have not tried Wayland yet. I think my next card will be AMD based on all the good stuff I am hearing.
@salt6556
@salt6556 Год назад
Just got the same gpu about a week ago, so much better than my GTX 660TI
@Shepherd_HL
@Shepherd_HL Год назад
I had two AMD GPU's in the past and they were alright - but after about 4 years, both would start to break down. My screen would always go black, followed by the audio cutting out soon after. Ultimately the computer would be unresponsive. I could never tell you exactly why, since the error would rarely be caught by AMD's Radeon Software, but the error messages (when they actually appeared) would consist of driver issues. I would ask on forums, and some said maybe it was the Ultra Low Power setting, and one guy just said "stuck in my old NVIDIA card and everything was fine". I'm not dogging on AMD - they're infinitely more competent than NVIDIA in terms of business, and WAY more reasonable in pricing - but I don't know if I should go the AMD route this time around (at least in GPU's). I hope you don't experience the same kinds of issues I did.
@el-naturale
@el-naturale Год назад
I've got a 5700xt and a 6700xt. Only issues ive had with my rigs were not relating to gpu. I also far, far prefer adrenaline/radeon, over gefore/nvidia control panel. It has great ingame toggling, gameplay and clip recording, radeon chill is quite good, easy fps caps etc etc. I was a little on the fence about the whole 'amd driver issue' thing when I got my 5700xt, but I've been laughing ever since, not a single problem with either of my amd cards, and I really prefer the software. For what you spend, you won't really notice if your on an amd or nvidia card while enjoying a game, but the software control panel, radeon is handy, nvidia not so much. I can't speak for other uses of graphics cards but thats been my personal experience gaming man, hope that helps
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 Год назад
May want to throw whatever PSU you had into the garbage... That's the only thing I can think of that would damage one that fast is a bad power source. Even with a lot of brownouts and power flickering, I haven't even been able to destroy an AMD GPU yet (my first one I sort of did, I cracked the BGA solder from thermal contraction fatigue cycles because I was running it at -60c every day in my daily machine, and solder really isn't made for that extreme cold as a daily machine...), yeah that card actually still works, I was going to show how to reflow it but it ran fine a year later when I was going to make a video guide on the repair. Didn't even artifact or slow its overclock all the way up to 130c (unplugged the fan and ran Furmark with like a 30% overclock for 15 minutes, the thing could have boiled water on its heatsink but it still wasn't crashing!), its ready for LN2 runs with insulation on it whenever I decide to finish it off, but I just haven't been able to break one (and I've got another with voltage bypass control on its circuit, however I broke the Firestrike world record without it for it in the crossfire category). I like to run 4x Xfire, setups, so I've got a decent amount of AMD GPUs, lol! And I like to break the records for fun, so they are pretty durable.
@MarktheRude
@MarktheRude Год назад
Hardware quality control-wise AMD's GPU-branch seems to drop the ball rather often unfortunately.
@VexJinks
@VexJinks Год назад
@@el-naturale Nvidia control panel has better options than AMD settings, tbh.
@el-naturale
@el-naturale Год назад
@@VexJinkswhich ones? And also can you hotkey and change options and settings midgame? I've also haven't found the nvidia overlay for system performance monitoring. For me its like adrenaline has everything you need built in, but nvidia requires 3rd party apps and has a less intuitive interface, he just gets nvidia because its popularity, but me faster 😎
@ftwproject658
@ftwproject658 Год назад
What a timely video. I have just came to the same conclusion after a solid week of late night troubleshooting the 4090 on linux distros. I'm getting an AMD GPU. Thx!
@hamzab6046
@hamzab6046 Год назад
I saved money from my first job and managed to build my first ever PC 2 years ago. It was a Ryzen 7 3700X. Back then I didn't have enough money to buy a good GPU. Last year I saved up enough to get a decent GPU so I went with a Radeon RX 6600. Never looked back. I always wanted an AMD only build and couldn't be happier. AMD's performance on Linux is mind boggling.
@chloe-sunshine7
@chloe-sunshine7 Год назад
My 6700XT has so many problems on Windows, but on Linux it works perfectly. I thought that was really odd as with my old 1060, it was completely the opposite
@jinxedpenguin
@jinxedpenguin Год назад
I think most of them have been fixed. Had to move back to Windows (outside of a VM) for a few things and now I'm not having issues with my GPU (6600XT) -- originally the GPU would cause an issue with Windows (crash on sleeping or screen being turned off, seemingly due to wonky AMD settings) granted, I swapped my motherboard recently -- so that could have been part of the issue. IDK what mobo you have but I had an MSI motherboard and I switched to an Asus board (which is much better imo)
@flintfrommother3gaming
@flintfrommother3gaming Год назад
The only issue that still persists to this day is the fullscreen functionality in like... every Radeon card. I haven't had a single grpahics driver issue except the unfathomably common fullscreen crashes. Games literally crash or atleast freeze for 10-15 seconds when I Alt + Tab or use the Windows Key and change to another application. 6600 gigabyye
@preflex3502
@preflex3502 Год назад
I've been using a RX 470 since 1 Jan 2019. Polaris GPUs are generally pretty sweet (avoid the RX 590. Everything else is great). Coming from an NVidia card, all of my driver headaches instantly vanished. No more pang of fear on kernel updates, triggering anxiety about whether SDDM would actually start after reboot or if I'd need to drop to a TTY and manually reinstall the driver. I don't even have DKMS installed anymore!
@kingeling
@kingeling Год назад
Ming explaining why one should avoid the 590? I think it was quite a good die shrink.
@preflex3502
@preflex3502 Год назад
@@kingeling I tried several 590s from different vendors, and they all had severe overheating problems. Some were only good for a few minutes, none lasted more than half an hour before throttling down.
@twenty-fifth420
@twenty-fifth420 Год назад
I am building a new computer and ditching my old from 2017. It is an old, but reliable girl. I am turning it into a server….. But been on the fence for AMD vs Nividia for my new build. Especially since I want to do game development, albeit on the lightweight Godot engine. I haven’t quite decided. It does help I already have a Ryzen in it, so I might as well brand AMD on its tight little mini ITX looking ass.
@surfsuptofino
@surfsuptofino Год назад
welcome to the club! recently got an rx 570 for a decent price, (canadian gpu market moment) and i can't wait to use it in conjunction with linux.
@SolTheCleric
@SolTheCleric Год назад
Make sure that it doesn't have a modded vbios (especially if this comes from a mining rig). Miners usually flash them with a custom one and, if you don't flash the original vbios back, you might get worse performance and instability under load.
@6ujkyujhrbdfgjy5
@6ujkyujhrbdfgjy5 Год назад
Man I use Linux with an NVIDIA Laptop GPU and it sucks. Not only does NVIDIA's drivers suck, but especially their driver support for their Optimus chips. When I finally build my Linux desktop, I'll be using an AMD GPU...
@padnomnidprenon9672
@padnomnidprenon9672 Год назад
The 580 is often at 100€ or less on aliexpress. You might need a deshroud because sometimes fans are loud resulting in great performance and low noise with quality fans
@6ujkyujhrbdfgjy5
@6ujkyujhrbdfgjy5 Год назад
@@padnomnidprenon9672 in what reality is Ali express reliable?
@joe_rogan
@joe_rogan Год назад
Recently I swapped my gtx 960 for rx 550+PSU+256SSD. Yeah, I halved my gxf performance but I only play games few times a year. Old stuff like commandos, fallout/2, gothic/2, you get the point. It's much less problematic to use linux now. Thanks AMD!
@outdoorinwithzach
@outdoorinwithzach Год назад
Just picked up a 5700xt. Great card for the price. Payed only $150!
@nathanacreman632
@nathanacreman632 Год назад
Yeah, as much as I like the fact that AMD's drivers are open source, the whole scandal with the 7900XTX and in general the fact they can't keep up with NVIDIA with high end hardware kinda kills it for me. Had a 1080ti for almost 6 years, and now a 4090
@pawouapproval984
@pawouapproval984 Год назад
i was previously using an AMD WX3200 that only had 4GB of VRAM, and swapped it out for a RX 6600 XT and it just worked out of box since i already had the correct AMD drivers installed. was a great feeling to add an upgrade to my machine without any tinkering!
@eclipse2445
@eclipse2445 Год назад
nice, I’m the local wayland gremlin myself, wayland wouldn’t even start on my old nvidia system, but I’m on the red team now, the performance is great. I’d suggest you give dwl a try, basically dwm but for wayland
@PotatoGodzilla
@PotatoGodzilla Год назад
The rx 580 use to 200€ 3 years ago. It was one of the best value for money card, it's so good!
@JojOatXGME
@JojOatXGME Год назад
I have used Wayland with NVIDIA on Arch Linux for about 7 years now. I never had any problems with my graphics, except that I had to replace the driver package once because they separated support for old cards into a separate package. So, can you provide an example for issues with Wayland and NVIDIA?
@chasarr
@chasarr Год назад
What desktop environment/window manager are you using? Sway and other wlroots based window managers does not work with Nvidia for example
@JojOatXGME
@JojOatXGME Год назад
@@chasarr ok. That is possible. I was mostly unsung Gnome. I haven't used so many different window managers.
@chasarr
@chasarr Год назад
@@JojOatXGME There are a couple of graphics APIs in the Linux kernel which AMD, Intel and others use, but Nvidia forces everyone to use their proprietary EGLStrems API instead. The developers behind Sway and wlroots were so frustrated with this that they didn't bother supporting it. Sway even had a --my-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia flag (they recently changed it) to add to it. There is an interesting article/rant from drew DeVault's blog called "Nvidia sucks and I'm sick of it" which goes into more detail. Cant link it here though, since links are disabled in the comments
@JasonMitchellofcompsci
@JasonMitchellofcompsci Год назад
The only problem is like you said, you plan to use it for other workloads besides gaming. That's why I use a graphics card. Everything that's been properly optimized expects cuda. Especially if you want to grab gpu accelerated binaries out of AUR instead of compiling, you get thisaimodel-bin-cpu, and thisaimodel-bin-cuda. Some things like pytorch are an absolute pain to compile and I don't even know yet what kind of additional roadblocks you get trying to do that for AMD. Even with the expected hardware its something to avoid.
@tanaymanerikar6503
@tanaymanerikar6503 Год назад
Same here. AMD is free until you want to actually get shit done.
@gearfriedtheswmas
@gearfriedtheswmas Год назад
Stupid for programmers to rely on something proprietary like cuda
@testacals
@testacals Год назад
@@tanaymanerikar6503 It isn't free in any sense of the word though.
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi Год назад
"properly optimised" ... yeah ? you think nvidia flooding the market with proprietary tech and getting filthy rich with dominant position, leading to all software makers being required to support nvidia tech first, is a good thing ? "properly optimised" .... you have no idea what either of these 2 words mean
@JasonMitchellofcompsci
@JasonMitchellofcompsci Год назад
@@YounesLayachi Ok buddy. Never mind the fact that people have put more time into making BLAS libraries that squeeze every drop of performance possible out of nvidia, and similarly and even more so with anything NN based. It's an objective and evidenced fact. But I'm sure your words have some merit in their somewhere even though what you said addressed absolutely jack shit about what is or isn't optimized. I'm sorry dude. My words are objectively true while yours are non-sequitur. Learn some logic before you claim others don't know what their own words mean.
@erogaki
@erogaki Год назад
I've been running my 6600 non xt for a while, and it absolutely shreds everything on linux at 2k. Good work mate!
@elarmino6590
@elarmino6590 Год назад
The native compatibility that Linux has is absurd, Windows gave me a lot of headaches
@erogaki
@erogaki Год назад
@@elarmino6590 I resorted to the Nimez drivers on Windows, and while I absolutely loved them as they resolved majority of my freesync issues, I was still getting some severe display blackouts
@tacokoneko
@tacokoneko Год назад
unfortunately, pure linux-libre distros (that are FSF-approved) do not actually work as-is with AMD graphics cards because they _do require proprietary firmware to be loaded_ . this is different from a driver because that firmware is something that runs entirely on the graphics card, it does not get executed by the CPU. but source code for that is still not available, so technically it isn't acceptable to FSF.
@supersjaak123
@supersjaak123 Год назад
Hey Outlaw I have noticed a clear difference in Wayland which is that it supports 144hz on my display which Xorg doesn't support but there is one problem that I am experiencing with Wayland which is screen sharing or streaming my desktop. What solutions to this problem are out there for Wayland? Thank you.
@CigsInABlanket
@CigsInABlanket Год назад
Windows.
@jayarmstrong
@jayarmstrong Год назад
There's an up to date list on some official website. Google should find it. Last I checked, most problems were only for Nvidia users.
@folguefolgue6177
@folguefolgue6177 Год назад
So there's no chance of anything going wrong when switching between an nvidia gpu and an amd gpu on linux? It seems so ridiculously easy. Hope it is like that, I also got my self an amd gpu for this christmas.
@gaucovyaero
@gaucovyaero Год назад
Got an RX 6700 XT earlier this year, lovin it :D
@duffelo
@duffelo Год назад
I am also using Linux for decades and always had a Nvidia GPU. Really not a gamer so I never really thinked about differences. But also I always had issues with Wayland and overall GPU driver related stuff. Since the middle of 2022 I have bought a RX570 with 8GB and using the free amdgpu driver I have absolutely zero problems. Wayland is working absolutely great, no stutters no issues, GPU acceleration for Vulkan, OpenGL and Vaapi works as it should. It was by far the best upgrade I did for my machine! Don't forget to activate Above 4G Decoding in your BIOS!
@iAMaReaperGotprobZ
@iAMaReaperGotprobZ Год назад
Could you please further explain the differences in xorg and wayland and how xwayland works. It would also be nice to know how compositor works and what are the differences between Mutter and x11. Also is there a way to get discord to share your screen on wayland without having to use it through WebKit/webapp?
@eideticex
@eideticex Год назад
Xorg is based on the old software rendering approach where the bulk of the rendering is done on the CPU. Wayland uses OpenGL and Vulkan to do the rendering on the GPU. Just like for video games, it's ground breaking levels of performance increase.
@whylde7834
@whylde7834 Год назад
I also got a new-to-me RX 580 from being on Nvidia! Enjoy man, it works well!
@unyu-cyberstorm64
@unyu-cyberstorm64 Год назад
I was just given an RX6750XT a few days ago. It’s very nice
@realryleu
@realryleu Год назад
I got an RX 6600 XT and it was such an amazing upgrade over my GTX 1060. Can’t recommend it enough.
@AIC_onyt
@AIC_onyt Год назад
I got a 6700xt. i love amds 6000 cards :D
@alberteinstein1015
@alberteinstein1015 Год назад
As soon as Jensen said "Moore's law is dead" I was turned away from Nvidia. That and the extreme price the 40 series is being sold at.
@BeOnlyChaos
@BeOnlyChaos Год назад
Welcome to team red! For the grep command, you can use the -A 10 to show 10 lines of context after the match
@q1fiend623
@q1fiend623 Год назад
Got me a 6800xt for the same reason. Never had an AMD card before, so far it's great.
@Russoski234
@Russoski234 Год назад
Talks about replacing Nvidia graphics card with AMD, while not in a pc master race context; Displays the cards over a T400 series laptop; Shows why AMD is just better out of the box with linux; "Oh, btw, I use arch" moment. Instant like and sub.
@overbese
@overbese Год назад
I just got n installed a 6070 upgrade from standalone integrated G5800x. Worked out of the box. LINUX FTW!
@dotxyn
@dotxyn Год назад
The 2048SP version is a bit slower than the standard 580, and more of a side-grade from a 970, but the extra VRAM and compatibility are great to have.
@kopasz777
@kopasz777 Год назад
Yeah, it is a rebranded rx 570, that's intended for the chinese market. Not a huge difference, I'd be more worried if the card's been mined on or not.
@jetforcesoldier
@jetforcesoldier Год назад
You updated from the same exact video card I updated from only a few months ago.
@violetasiii
@violetasiii Год назад
fuck yeah, glad you've joined the right side :^) I got a Ryzen 5 2600 and an RX 5700 XT 8GB, it's a solid setup and I've not ran into any issues with it. I used to have a GT 1030, which meant I either stuck with glibc based distros, or I used nouveau, which was unusable slow with the card (it couldn't handle an X compositor without noticeable visual lag). now that I've joined the red team, I've got more power and the freedom to use whichever distro I like. got to say, gaming on Alpine with steam in a flatpak almost seems faster than it does on Ubuntu.
@yep596
@yep596 Год назад
I recently built my first gaming PC with AMD components, a Ryzen 7 5800X and a RX 6600 with Debian Testing for up-to-date packages, drivers, kernel version etc. And so far, my experience with it has been amazing. Playing games via Proton and sometimes Lutris has been a breeze, performance has been excellent too. I've even been able to play games online with friends who were using Windows such as Borderlands GOTY enhanced and Rocket League without any problems whatsoever. Linux gaming really has come a long way.
@emisorano
@emisorano Год назад
I've always used AMD aside from some integrated graphics back in the day of nForce chipsets, I didn't knew it was actually that better, I just kinda like the brand.
@daryl2328
@daryl2328 Год назад
the 500 series go hard, I was using a 8gb 570 up until this Christmas. Hope it run well for you.
@chrisphoenix115
@chrisphoenix115 7 месяцев назад
Such videos get people understand the main point 🎉 respect
@nerdinspace.
@nerdinspace. Год назад
been loving my rx 580 ever since i built a pc back in 2019, one of the best price to performance cards and polaris still kicks ass after 6 years
@broncochamo
@broncochamo Год назад
props my dude for staying with the 970 for so long
@lsswappedcessna
@lsswappedcessna Год назад
AMD has really been punching up as of recently. I recently built a PC with a Ryzen 7 5800X and AMD RX 6700XT to replace my Ryzen 5 1600/RX 580 pre-built and it's worked very well. Obviously the 6700XT is a bit dated compared to their newest new card, but I hardly ever go for the new thing right when it comes out. Plus, 12GB VRAM means I'm no longer limited by memory.
@XoloYT
@XoloYT Год назад
I bought my RX5600XT pre-pandemic, money well spent. Still holds up today.
@AhegaoFace
@AhegaoFace Год назад
RX580 is a solid, and cheap GPU i've been using for years now. Glad you joined AMD.
@sf4769
@sf4769 Год назад
Just upgraded a few months ago from an RX570 to an RX6600. those cards are great! gave the old one to my dad and he can use it for years to come. switch everything to AMD after Microsoft dropped support for X58. now Im running linux on both the Ryzen build and my X58 build with 2x w7100 cards. both run like brand new machines. basically have dropped windows completely. so long as you have MESA and Proton steam games run perfectly fine in my opinion.
@nacholopezosa
@nacholopezosa Год назад
I have the exact same GTX 970 Gigabyte Windforce! This may be my wakeup-call to get a new one...
@Cyanid3Child
@Cyanid3Child Год назад
Just picked up a 7900 xt myself after a few years of green team. I'm definitely happy with it.
@AizenJoestar42
@AizenJoestar42 Год назад
That is a nice RX580 2048SP from AliExpress, got one a few weeks ago and it is working perfectly fine.
@mabster314
@mabster314 Год назад
I upgraded my 1080 Ti to a Radeon 6800XT after I committed to GNU/Linux full-time. I'm so happy with the call, I have to deal with so little bullshit and I think it really helps with Proton compatibility for some games. I also have AMD graphics in my HP Dev One and they're a million times better than dealing with Nvidia/intel switchable graphics (probably about 70% of the total effort I put into my old laptop was for switchable graphics).
@morsine
@morsine Год назад
ordered one online after watching your video! I'm not good with GPUs. but your suggestion seems to be a great option! I got it for 50$. totally worth it. now I can have a real GPU instead of the integrated graphics :D
@LiamNajor
@LiamNajor Год назад
970 is 3.5 x gddr5 and .5 x gddr3 (IIRC). Nice to see someone else who knows what they need. I have a Clevo P870tm-s "laptop" with an i7 8700, 32gb, and a gtx 1080. I got it for $750 6 months ago.
@huljaxful
@huljaxful Год назад
I have 8-9 years old laptop, thank god it has amd gpu and when the time comes i will go with ryzen platform for sure for new laptop. AMD and Linux is the inly way to fly :)
@thecoton6152
@thecoton6152 Год назад
The main reason I preferred Nvidia over AMD even on a Linux system is to do GPGPU using the CUDA framework. There is apparently an interface called HIP that has a tool to convert CUDA code to HIP. If it works, then you could single out one source code for both Nvidia and AMD GPUs and would pretty much make AMD reign supreme for my free software enjoying ass. If anyone is familiar with HIP, let me know how much of a better experience it is for you.
@algovoice
@algovoice Год назад
I love your channel. You are amazing.
@hotrodjones74
@hotrodjones74 Год назад
Welcome to team red! AMD is Chad on team penguin.
@endlord_1.185
@endlord_1.185 Год назад
I too got an AMD RX 580 8GB literally 2 days ago. What a crazy coincidence :D I was immediately satisfied with my experience. It worked right out of the box and all of my games ran better than ever before!
@chevicus
@chevicus Год назад
actually decent card. Happy new year man!
@johnphamlore8073
@johnphamlore8073 Год назад
RX 580 is incredible value for what you paid for it, especially considering events the past couple of years. No one should disagree with that.
@denis2381
@denis2381 Год назад
I disagree with that. Btw, Taiwan is undeniably a province of China 🇨🇳
@Negiku
@Negiku Год назад
970 has 3.5gb + 500mb vram. The 500mb is just slower but still accessible and performance doesn't really get affected in some games but it apparently does in others.
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