I agree with you 100%. Two reasons to go 38 is 1. A heavy rider. 2.Your a Beast rider on the mountain. As for me at 165#, am happy with 36 on RaceFace 30off-set Wheels.
@@brandonandrews5603 Maybe you're right, but you could say that 200+ could be considerred a heavy bench...that covers 200-299... I can't bench 299... haha jk man :)
Alec Stanley you need more protein good sir. Lifting is very much personal- in relation to your weight. 50kg guy lifting 100kg is impressive. It depends on how hard you ride and what you ride
I'm 210-215 (depends on how many BBQs I've been to that week) and I rode a 32 until 2014, then a 34 until this year. I've lived in the Rockies, and North Vancouver in that time. I just got on a 36 (Capra Pro Race), and while I feel the difference, I haven't felt under forked since the 32, in the slightest. I'm not sure I'd switch to a 38... Feels too close to the 40 I run on the DH... but who knows, maybe some day. Great review.
My 38 is showing up today. I’m 6’1 and 240lbs and ride pretty aggressive. I have the 36 on two of my bikes and have been pretty happy but I’m excited to go to the 38 and see the difference. Thanks for the great content!
@@Tr_Fast Lol, Not yet but it’s been a significant improvement over the 36. I really like the stiffness and the way I can push it into the corners. I put my old 36 on my sons bike so he got an upgrade too. Good times!
I wanted this fork so badly at 6'8" 270lbs, but my fuel ex 8 came with 130mm and I thought the jump to a 150 air shaft would've been too much geo change. I went with a 140mm 36. When they make a 140 air shaft for that 38, I'll get one. Your video is awesome.
Thanks man! The 36 at 140 is perfect for that bike and still beastly! Hopefully next year we’ll see that 38 go to some lower travels for us big guys though. 🤞
about to upgrade my 2015 trek slash 8 from a 2016 fox 36 factory to the new 38 factory. i went to a bike shop just to press on the fork a bit and the difference between my 2016 36 and the 38 is unreal. my current fork is awesome and has handled everything i throw at it, more or less, but on big jumps it feels like jumping into a pool of water. theres a ton of stiction at the very top of the stroke and then there's very little support throughout the rest of the stroke once you break thru that initial bite. the 38 had literally 0 stiction and i could compress it with one arm but it still felt like it had a ton of support
Sweet video dude!!!! .... as an even larger rider than yourself, it's nice seeing product feedback from someone who isn't any heavier that a piece of A4 paper for once, as not all of us fit small to medium frames with 25PSI in out shocks or forks! (think I might subscribe!!)
That was a fantastic review mate! Cheers bro,u got another subscriber thanks very! Just ordered a Capra Shred with 38’s on it. I’m not as heavy as u but set up accordingly! 👊🏻👍🏻
I think even if a rider is less than 200lbs, the stiffness and low flex would be a big improvement over really technical terrain. This fork is so beefy, it's a game-changer for those really fast, technical trails where picking a line is more important than just horsing through chunder.
Need to balance that gimbal a touch. Might want to consider changing to 4:3 ratio with no stabilzation on the GoPro if you are going to run a chest gimbal too. It will give you more options when editing. Great Video man 🤙
Great video! I liked that this wasn't a super "techy" review and displayed your riding style well. You and I are very similar in riding style and "physiology" so this and the RockShox ZEB are on my future list! I'm currently running the RockShox Lyrik on my Remedy 9.8 and I've loved it so far. Hit me up if you're ever in Utah and I'd be happy to show you some of my favorite places to ride!
Hey,hows ur remedy feeling?I'm currently looking to upgrade my bike and am looking at the Remedy and Slash,also a Canyon Strive.Which would yoy pick for heavy enduro racing?Any feedback is appreciated😁😁
Great video! Subscribed! I was looking for an honest review, not the press release reviews from a few months ago. Your feedback definitely has me leaning towards this as an upgrade for my Specialized Enduro. Can you maybe do a review on your Super Deluxe Coil at some point?
Just stumbled upon your channel and just wanna say man you can shred! Definitely subscribing to the channel bro! I just ordered a new 21 Fox 36 for my 150mm travel bike. I’m coming from a Pike and hope I’ll see a big jump in performance. In lighter than you at 180 so hopefully the 36 will be stiff enough. I hope the new 36 feels as good as the 38 does
Hey thanks dude! I really appreciate the support. You’ll love that 36. I’m tellin ya, the grip2 is killer. Especially with some volume reducers in there. You can’t go wrong. 🤘
Always wondered why almost all the pro enduro and DH riders used fox and had either 36’s or 40’s and not the RockShox lyrik or boxxer. Then I tried out a fox...
Almost switched my Decoy pro race pre order over to the Decoy Shred pre order simply because it had the newest fork. Glad I didn't if it's only an upgrade for larger riders
I love how we basically have the same bike(other than the coil shock, and bar) so any upgrades you put on give me a good sense of whats good...im right at 200 pounds and ive been eyeing this fork. Definitely going on my list once I finish upgrading my DJ and 29er ht! We definitely have similar styles as well, like side hits but also aggressively charging through rock gardens! Thanks for the work put into this video! Almost forgot how did the change in head tube angle and BB height feel going to a longer fork? Specifically climbing?
Nice dude! The Megatower is so rad. I didn’t really notice any difference through out the frame geo. My first pedal on it, I noticed a bit of a height difference up front but I that faded quick. Definitely not on the decent. I also did keep the same offset. I hope that helps 🤙
Hey man nice review and smooth riding! I just ordered the same fork for my wreckoning and ya, was hard to find!! I’m about your size so was happy to see a review addressing the rider vs fork spec. I’d love to chat about setup
Bro.. you should get some props for this vid! Making me want one just by talking about how it felt thru the flat corners! Hahah but seriously looks soo darn good & composed.. ~My current fox 36 developed some serious clicking in the steer tube of the fork.. sent it back and they changed the uppers for me.. but only a week or two later and I’m getting that old familiar click here and there in the headset of the fork steer tube.. might need to send it back a 2nd time if this is really happening again, anywho maybe I’ll have to see about a new 36 or 38 as I’m going to be putting the Cascade link on my Megatower & a 170 fork May pair well with the added rear travel. Let me know your thoughts, loved this vid 🤘🏼
Thanks bro! Ah man the 38 would we a rad combo to go with that cascade link! Hopefully you get that issue figured out. I’m sure you checked, but is the crown race on your fork warped or cracked? That could also cause some clicking. Either way, hope you get it resolved without spending too much coin.
For your size and the bigger 29er, you can shred it fast. From the video, I felt like you gonna always wash out on that dry sand but you're not. The Minion is awesome too.
Ahh, Nice. Lots of new riders up there this year. I used to live in Meyers. Just had fun up there last week, but saw so many people even up near Armstrong pass. Have fun, nice video!
Sweet man looks rad! Great work on intro vid of bike, very stylie. Color looks nice with your bike, not usually a fan of lighter color forks but it looks good. I’m a bigger dude and I’m very interested in sizing up. Did you notice a difference in weight?
Thanks dude! Tried to do something a bit different this time. At first I wasn’t totally sold on the color, but now I love it. As for the weight, not at all! I’m not crazy about weight change, within reason, but I didn’t notice it at all.
Thanks for your review! How does it feel off the top? Is it fairly plush in small but tooth shaking chunder? My trails have some consistent half foot to 2 foot hits but there's also a bunch of rock gardens you can just roll/plow thru. I guess very similar to the section you did on your local trail here!
The top of the stoke has a ton of small bump compliance. I would say that’s is the softest part of the stroke. Then it has good ramp moving through the rest of the travel. Definitely the best I’ve ridden by far through the chunder and jank. Really grippy on the roots too. I hope that helps.
That trail looks rad! Great video and review. What kind of rear shocks are you running? I’m looking to upgrade to a 38 myself but wondering if I should upgrade rear as well. I currently have a Fox 36 and Fox float DPS and I’m really happy with it. But I’m thinking the bigger the better? Fox float X or X2? 🤙
What are the disadvantage of the 38 over the 36? Weight and expense? I have an eMTB with a 36 (Grip) and I weigh 210lbs. For most of my riding it feels more than capable but certain trails in Queenstown push it to the limit and it bottoms out. I'm considering upgrading to a Grip2 or getting a 38.
Nice video and good comparison. From what you described, I got the impression the 38 feels closer to a 40 than a 36. Not sure if you have ridden a 40 but it I would be interested in your opinion.
Nice video super ride mate congrats new sub. I have 29 er yt capra with a rc2 cartridges fox 36 with 170mm travel. Im pretty big 220 lbs and i wanna buy fox 38, but the rs r made the zeb for much lower price so i dont know what do you think?
Thanks dude! I can’t say anything against the Zebb sense I haven’t ridden it but I’m sure it’s also a great unit. I would imagine, the Fox is a bit more progressive if you really get down to the nitty gritty but that’s just my guess. Upgrading to the Grip2 damper alone is a huge upgrade. You couldn’t go wrong investing into a 38 or a Zebb.
Thanks man! Not at all.. I’m not very critical on weight if it provides the performance in return though. If anything I noticed the geo change a bit from the bump to 170, but that faded quickly.
Super jealous you’re in Tahoe. I miss living there and having access to all the great trails. I’m debating between a slightly used 2021 Ibis Ripmo w/factory 36 vs a new one I have in order coming with factory 38. Not sure if I’m better off with the 36 vs 38 as I am 5’10” 185lbs and don’t ride as aggressive based on your ride in this video. My trails are similar to yours but with much more exposed tree roots and tree dense trails here in the Smokey mtns. My comfort level of drops is 4ft. and under. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
38 Looks amazing and great video dude! Can I ask what wheelset you're running and what tyre pressures you go with. Looks like you're a similar size rider to myself
Thanks bro! I appreciate that. I do have a video on my wheel set up and the reason why I run them, so consider checking that out. I run 29psi typically but if I have Cush core in, I can confidently run lower. Double down Maxxis casings front and rear.
Great video pal!! I have a yeti 2020 sb140 and wanted to do the 38 and I’m new to this but I’m confused with the height or leverage? Will it change my angle of the bike or angle ? I’ll be using the bike for all mountain and a few climbs and peddling 🤷♂️😫 I’m 190 pounds .
If you raise the travel in the front, it will cause the seat tube angle to be typically a degree slacker. Which will result is the seating position while pedaling to not be as optimal. But, in my opinion, the benefits from the bigger fork are worth the sacrifice! I hope that helps 🤙
Im 249lbs 5"6 tall, whats your tyre pressure at this kind of trail? Planning to get 36 but since i watched this vid gonna get that 38 ahahaa,nice video review.keep it up.
Thanks homie! I typically run 29psi with double down casings. Same for on that trail too. I would probably run it a bit lower if I had Cush Core in though.
I'm 235lbs on a good day. I'll be looking at 38s for the future...this video provided SUUUUCH GOOD RIDING!!!! Refreshing! Now lets get ourselves a strict diet! :P 🤣
Hey Sebastien. Yeah I definitely get some slouching if I fill it up. Typically a body, two lenses, and a gorilla pod does it. At first it really bothered me but I got pretty used to it. Best option I’ve found for sure.
Im trying to save up for this because my current lyrik creaks and pops underneath my weight (110kg) and it doesn't feel stiff and I feel like I'm going to crack my steerer tube or something
Great review of the 38! I'm considering an upgraded fork on my Bronson, leaning toward the 36 to gain responsiveness and enjoy a good weight savings over my stock Yari, but with the awesome things I'm hearing about the 38 that comes in at about the same weight I'm thinking it is a possibility. Just under 200lb rider with gear, occasional enduro race in the Tx hill country. Given your experience with the bronson what do you think?
Thanks, Brian! I appreciate that dude. I think you would definitely be stoked on the 36 coming from the yari. Obviously a whole lot more to offer. Now for the decision between the 36 and the 38, I haven’t thought about a 38 on a Bronson... but I like the idea! The 38 at 160 would be so much fun and a total weapon. Sense you’re already making the investment, I would probably go 38, but if you’re wanting to stay at 150 up front, then just go 36. Grip2 36 is going to be sick also. As for the weight difference, in my opinion you’re not going to notice that much. It’s 100% worth the strength. I hope that helps!
Wow, great riding! 🚵♂ The colorway of that Fox 38 fork is absolutely stunning! 😍 Thinking of getting one myself to upgrade from my trusty Lyrik. How do you have your Fox 38 set up? Would love to know your settings for rebound, compression, and air pressure. Keep shredding! 🤘
I am 5’10 athletic 185lbs in my 40’s. Debating between a slightly used 2020 Ibis Ripmo w/Fox 36 or keeping my current order that comes w/Fox38. Going the used route will save me $1500. Not sure if I need the fox 38 for my style of riding, can you help? I can ride pretty much any bike park trail, just not ripping down them and catching big air like the more advanced riders or carving up turns(not yet). I prefer picking my lines but have fun hitting drops up to 4’ on occasion and really enjoy the longer 10+mi switchback trails in the smokies. As much as I try to pick my lines, I am generally crashing through endless rocks and roots.
Awesome review man, thank you! If I'm 165 lbs, should I stick with the Fox 36 factory? (since I don't wanna spend $1,000 plus for an upgrade that might not be a huge advantage for my weight range). Thanks again!
Thanks dude! I appreciate that. I run 123psi. Rebound: HSR - 2 clicks from closed LSR - 1 click from closed Compression: HSC - 4 clicks from open LSC - 9 clicks from open With 3 volume reducers
@@loamtroopers thats very close to the basesetup from the fox tuning guide. My pistachio fork needs a bit more rebound :) But its a sick fork, I tell ya. My mind was blown away by the performance in the rough stuff.
@@loamtroopers So Im running a 100 psi with like 88-90 kilo (198lbs) bike gear ready. Since I am not using full travel I went down 1 click LSC and 2 clicks HSC
What are your settings? I’m 6’1 240 and yeah we are not the majority 😂. How many volume spacers and clicks out you run? I’m probably putting a 38 on my mega tower this week
I think if you’re really passionate about upgrading. Do it. Especially if it gets you stoked to get out and ride. But I wouldn’t expect as much as a difference. It wouldn’t be a bad move, just maybe not as optimal as it would be for a heavy rider is all. Just open those compressions up and give it hell 🤘
Great review bud! I have a 2019 Kona Process 153 CR/DL with the Lyrik fork 160mm travel and it does great for my weight at 260lbs. With that said I will make sure my next bike has these forks for sure unless something better and more beefy comes out and de throws this one! BE SAFE OUT THERE
im about your size id guess, what wheels do you like and also rear shock. i plan to get a fox 38 and wheels and a shock to work with my size and ability
I love my Santa Cruz Reserve rims laced to I9 hydra hubs. As for the rear shock, I’m running the Rockshox super deluxe ultimate coil and it works well with the megatower.
In the vid the old fork looks like fox 36 performance with the FIT damper (unless you upgraded the cartridge). How much of this is a comparison between the FIT and GRIP dampers?
Good eye Eric! So the model on my Megatower was with a Fit4. My last fork had a Grip2 damper. I’m familiar with the difference between the two dampers. This review is more about the structure. While that aids the performance of the Grip2, in my opinion. Although, the shim stack is this fork creates a very unique feel compared to the 36’s Grip2. Just bro science though. 🤷♂️ 🤘
Curious to know your settings. I've just got my 170mm 38 and my hands were beaten badly after the first run! I was using the suggested settings for my 125kg weight (275ish lb) and have changed the pressure anywhere between 140PSI and 90PSI. Appreciate any tips!
