That 2 handed safety grinder ain't going to work very good for a pipefitter when it comes to beveling, mainly how you have to keep a firm grip on that secondary trigger when you need to reposition often
I hate when they ram safety down you throat. This two handed BS is for morons that don't know how to run tools Which unfortunately is all of the next generation
3:00 55 minutes of charge time for 30 minutes of run time on that battery. So. Youd have to have 8 batteries constantly on charge to meet a day’s demand. Big money.
If you start your day with 3 fully charged batteries you would need 3 batteries and 2 chargers to keep up. Still an expensive up front cost. But, It’s also extremely rare that you’d be running a plate compactor all day long.
But I can't figure out what good is these cordless tools if you still have to depend on electricity to charge them . Isn't that there purpose the capability of not using electricity or cords .but still depend on more then ever now! And as electr.v gas ! I'll take gas all day long time is important ,and charging takes Time.
I love my dewalt tools, but they are pushing the same bs nonsese run time. Gas is cheaper and works better. Batteries are great until they fail or run out at the end of a job. The outright lies batteries run longer than gas, gas i am back to work in seconds batteries require a min 45 min charge time. Yet they claim they dont have the numbers when asked. Hate car saleman tactics
Fair, but I run a lot of batteries so it's much faster and cleaner to swap them out than it is to yank out the gas tank. Plus, almost every truck today had multiple outlets for charging. You know what you don't have to deal with? Engine maintenance, carb cleanup and the like. There's room for both but I run batteries on almost all but the largest equipment.
Yes but that gas machine is going to need a ton of maintenance for the engine , and is prone to breaking down. That time lost for recharging or cost added for more batteries, is beyond mitigated by the fact that electric machines require ZERO mechanical maintenance. This is the reason I switched to electric. The gas machines require lots of regular maintenance throughout the year , plus I would check them in annually to be serviced professionally at a shop, and all of that costs a lot more time and money than buying batteries and rotating them and not worrying about engine maintenance/failure.
Ok yes 100%agree But.. 55minute charge time while your working, how many minutes do you lose in a year at the gas station refilling cans and mixing fuel. I would say changing the battery is faster than refueling still. Gas tools and battery tools all have their place
The 2 trigger grinder leave it on the shelf especially on the smaller grinders in 35 years I've never used the side handle on a smaller grinder only on a 9 inch grinder
On a long grinding job, like for an hour or more, I pull out the side handle on the big one but I couldn't tell you where the handles are for the little ones.
That's the problem with these. Our plate compactors are 25 years old with Honda commercial 4 strokes. These aren't the same motors you have in your old lawnmower. They still start up first pull no problem and run all day long. I've had to replace a couple carbs because of bad gas but that's it. Why would I spend tens of thousands of dollars on this stuff if my gas stuff is reliable and paid for. I've yet to see a single Milwaukee MX tool on an actual job site, and I'm not sure who is going to be buying this DeWalt stuff either. The concrete vibrators I can see, but I'm not seeing a big benefit with most of this stuff.
I dont want a grinder where I need 2 hands to turn it on. This is crazy, All the new battery worm drive (rear handle) saws have that stupid safety lever blocking the trigger. We glued them or pinned them on the Makita 36 volt, Skilsaw 48 volt, Milwaukee 18 volt fuel, and the Hitachi 36 volt. We are not children. Stop it.
I'm really loving this "new" side of you Stan. Thank you for being a real voice for people. Speaking out becomes a moral obligation, especially when you have the audience. I know this is not a "political" channel but our world today needs this wake up.
Naw. I can give the well-maintained gas units to my kid when he gets older... Dewalt will be on their 15th battery design by then and none of this crap will work anymore.
400 yards of 6" flatwork translates to about 5000sqft. A 16' bar would mean just over 300lf. 10' per minute means 30 minutes of runtime. To be fair, I'm not doing jobs anywhere close to that large. However, on a standard job, my gas power screed probably runs for less than 5 mins over the course of a 2hr pour.
@@DejaVuae86 DeWalt got to him first with a nice offer. Milwaukee dropped the ball and tried too late to get Ryan to sign with them. Milwaukee's building is right across the tracks at his new land also.😆
All the concrete at shows is soft for eazy drilling and cutting. All steel is mild steel for eazy drilling and cutting. The batterys can not be left in equipment on the back of a truck, Or it will walk a way with and other very friendly contactor.
All these would be great if using indoors, or in a basement/trench but knowing the flexvolt batteries are $300-$400 each i bet these new batteries will be $800-$1000 each and you almost have to have 2 batteries if it takes almost 1 hr to charge. Especially if you go to a jobsite with no power to charge.
Lmao 30 to 45mins of compacting, when we are prepping the base for a 1000ft patio that packer is running min 5hrs that day We pack sub soil, pack every 3 to 4 inches of base, pack the 3/8 screeded, and then pack the pavers once we are complete
I do have the 21° framing nailer and it works great. Saves on running my generator and compressor with my other nailer plus i don't have to drag around the hose. Battery cost sucks though.
As a plumber they would be ok for me plate compactor to tamper only runs a little at end of day when we back fill. And we only core drill a few holes at a time.
What does that mean haha don’t give us stats that we can’t relate to what we do. Appreciate you having them spell it out. Apples don’t compare to oranges. As well somebody should tell that fella when you shake someone’s hand you take your glove off. Bet he had a soft grip. Another trait these days that seems to be forgotten. No eye contact and a weak grip.
so much electrical add on safetyies= easy downtime... if I buy a grinder it is cause I need a grinder not a babysitter. most of us don't use side handles or guards cause there's no room most of the time and it's more dangerous having them
I work highrise construction in Canada as a concrete finisher...we have had battery powered tools and in the commercial industry during the winter..battery powered tools are useless to us...its to cold batteries are empty in 20 minutes
Also, how about when the batteries are still very hot from running and wont charge until they cooldown. So that "55 minute charge time" quickly turns into 1.5-2 hours.
30% more….right. I don't like that they don't have answers already for “Real” run time. How can you develop & bring a tool to a demo without knowing that.
You got to give it to Trevor he took some crap but I got to give it to you Stan cuz you gave the crap . But I have lately felt that DeWalt has been running on their name and not their quality but singing this video maybe because they've been in production and not really showing their new improve but I have become a Milwaukee fan because I feel some of that stuff is stronger lasting longer
So when figuring constant runtime with battery, factor in red faced frustration trying to pull start a gas unit, then having to take it to the small engine repair shop to rebuild/replace the carb. I only have honda engines, but slowly replacing all gas tools with electric. Still have gas for backup, but haven't touched them in years.
@@zack9912000 I agree. I have dewalt 1/4 impact driver with a 20v battery. It only lasts 6 hours on a full use at work. My Milwaukee in other hand with the 5.0 battery it lasts 2 whole days worth of work.
The problem with battery stuff is they the batterys only have a certain life span ie so many charges then ya gotta spend another 3 or 400 on another one
@@JGormo11811 Any adaptor to make an 18 volt Milwaukee battery deliver 40 volts will rapidly destroy that battery. Maybe one could be rigged up to use two batteries, but that would be more expensive than it is worth... while slowly destroying those two batteries.
@codyevans7030 good point. It would have to be something you can synch and release. Unfortunately, I can see other brands adding this as well to get ahead of potential safety mandates. Companies try to account for them so they don't have to pull inventory when they're enacted.
@@Young_Star this makes this grinder worthless for tile setters. We use them to cut, grind and polish. No way that will ever work if you have to keep both hands on the handles.
I use dewalt impacts at work mainly because I used Dewalt for my entire 20 year Air Force career and now my current 7 years in running a diesel school bus shop. For what I do the they work great. As for the heavy outdoor tools like compactors and core drills you cannot beat gas. I prefer dewalt but that is just personal preference. I have the newest 961B and it had removed everything I have put it on. Only complaint is that I wish it had the 3/4 anvil.
The flexvokts start at 300 and climb and those big bastards will be close to a grand or more per a battery. That is a ton of fuel for gas powered tools
They can keep all that battery operated equipment. Why would anyone pay more (a LOT MORE) to get less performance? I'll keep my gas powered equipment. I haven't had a carburetor problem on ANY of my equipment in 15 yeas since I switched to 100% non-ethanol.
there could be some rare occasions that need a non-combustion/non-spark solution. Any place enclosed or with potential existing fumes, mines or tunnels maybe.
Great content, Stan! Im not a Dewalt fan to begin with, but setting that first hurdle aside, batteries are still not there yet. There? Meaning, they are not replacing the convenience of gas machines. So, with that being said, WHY do they keep comparing their product to gas machines? They lose that battle every single time. Yeah, batteries are useful & convenient in a lot of different scenarios for sure. But when they bring out a machine that is a direct competitor to gas, they lose right after you ask, "whats the charge time?" Personally, ill continue using gas. And frankly, Dewalt fell short years ago when other brands started releasing more advanced technology. They were #1 for years. They got very comfortable, and lost the lead position. Hell, they arent even a solid 3rd when you compare to other brands that are half the price. As always, thanks for bring the content! I know first hand what it takes/cost to release these short videos! 👌🤘
I love going battery instead of my wired tools including table and chop saw but switching to battery from gas is a completely different story. Dewalt chainsaw is going to be next month's purchase so we'll see.
@@ridiculous7935 It will draw more than that, to be fast charging those large power cells in the time they are claiming is going to pull close to 15.
Im millwaukee all the way. Except for the table saw! My cast iron is obsolete, but keep in the shop! Best i found for its purpose is the kobart.packs and tracks in seconds& light-weight and holds ferm on its stand while ripping plywood and powerful for 2×4×8 in lenght
2:14 no…what he meant to say was if you put ethanol based gasoline to save money per gallon instead of buying rec 90 (non ethanol) then buy this because otherwise you’ll be wondering why it only runs on half choke
So you basically need 2-3 batteries per unit if you want zero downtime on a 8 hour day for any of these tools. Not to mention that connection on the backpack looks like it's going to get about 1 or 2 used before it's caked with crap. Running a gas engine isn't hard. I've got a 15 year old Honda gx160 with all original parts that still starts within 2 pulls every single time at less then half the price
55 min charge time 30 min run time. Will need 2 extra batteries on charge so it’s possible to go all day. If on a site where you have no access to electric that means generator or solar panel system on roof of enclosed trailer.
8:04 I think you both have a point right here… because by the same logic if you have another battery, you just switch it out. Just like if you run out of gas, you just add more gas. I understand the batteries are more expensive, so that might be the undertone of the challenge to the 30% more runtime.
Yet when pressed he couldn't prove his claims, these companies are just making numbers up till some engineer can find one use case as evidence to slap it on the marketing page
Glad he called them out, how can you say 40% longer than Gas? Is that 40% more than a cup of gas or 3 gallons? Thanks for being bold and not smooching butt like the rest.
Dewalt rep told me they will be 800 -1500 depending on the size you order. They won't be cheap. As they always do they will offer one or two size amp hours and later will offer the bigger sizes when the true run times come out
% more run time than gas but gas takes 2 min to refill not 55 minutes Better have 3 batteries minimum to get through a day allowing for recharge time per tool, that's a lot of $$$. Granted you don't make a mess if the charger falls over. But the arbitrary numbers are an annoyance, good on calling them out.
Bite the bullit and buy a six pack of remote microphones Stan. Been wanting to mention that for a long time. Dewalt is leading the pack and i hope they win. Cheers 🇨🇦
the side handle 1 second lockout is only in the design to defeat the idea of taping down the handle trigger. i have barely ever used a grinder and i can already tell that "safety" feature is probably the largest and dumbest hindrance to the whole idea.
Don't forget, most residential job sites don't have any power available to recharge these batteries. So that means these trades will need to run a gas generator to charge the batteries. Battery tech just isn't there yet.
