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I Can No Longer Recommend Fjallraven - Fjallraven Abisko Tarp Failure - Review 

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That's it, I'm done with Fjallraven.
Yet again, another Fjallraven Failure!
After a great deal of testing Luke is ready to review the Fjallraven Abisko Tarp and after this point. he's no longer going to recommend this brand's shelters.
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Fjallraven Abisko Tarp - Details
What it is : It has been some time since I posted my preview of this tarp - since then I have continued to test it and have done so in a variety of conditions ranging from warm summer days and nights to cold and windy winter ones.
This is the 10x10’ Fjallraven Abisko Tarp and unfortunately this product is simply not worth the rather high cost.
After a great deal of testing I can share with you both the cons as well as the pros of what I consider to be an expensive disappointment.
Originally I purchased this Tarp from the Ray Mears site as it wasn’t available in the USA. Over time that has changed and this tarp is available on Amazon and it can be found at other sites as well. Not that I would recommend that you purchase it but as an FYI.
Colors :
Pine Green
Sizes :
10x10
11.5’ x 14.5’ -
Weights :
10x10 - 1.1lbs
11.5’ x 14.5’ - 1.9lbs
Materials :
40D TripleRip Sil/Sil 3000 mm 100% polyamide
Guyline: 2 mm Dyneema (160 kg) reflective
What’s included :
Tarp
Storage bag
Six adjustable guylines (the large size includes 8 guylines)
Price :
10x10 - I paid $140 for this tarp originally and it looks like the price has gone down over time. I’ve seen the 10x10’ for $120 and the
Large - 11.5ft’ x 14.5’- $214 instead of $240.

From the company :
The Fjallraven Abisko Tarp is made from lightweight, strong nylon. Practical as an accessory for tents but can also be used by itself as a shelter.
This 10 x 10’ tarp is made from light and very strong 40 D TripleRip Sil-Nylon fabric and includes Dyneema guylines. A tarp can be used together with a regular tent to create an outside living space but is also easy to use by itself as a shelter to sleep under.
Made for a lifetime of use.
Also easy to use by itself as a shelter from wind and rain.
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Комментарии : 526   
Год назад
Hi Luke! Hope you’re well and that you’re enjoying the outdoors, as always! We just came across your review on the Abisko Tarp and the windsack and we appreciate the transparent feedback. Our Field Test Coordinator has emailed you to get some more information on your experience and address your concerns directly - we obviously want to make this right. Hopefully hear from you soon! / The Fjällräven team
@northernswedenstories1028
@northernswedenstories1028 Год назад
I don't understand his criticism of.the wind sack. He's treating it like a bivy when it's not..
@4224Prod.
@4224Prod. Год назад
​@@oldgrunt5569damn😂😂😂
@carlhorne3703
@carlhorne3703 Год назад
@@oldgrunt5569 Do you have proof that he lies? If not be careful or you might get a taste of your own medicine.
@67L48
@67L48 Год назад
@@oldgrunt5569 That doesn't prove that he lies. That proves, at best, that his experience is different from yours. To prove a lie, you'd need to actually point to a misrepresentation of a fact and, furthermore, that this was an intentional misrepresentation (an attempt to deceive). I'm not sure you know what a lie is. When someone is wrong, it's not necessarily a lie. When someone hates your favorite product, it's not necessarily a lie.
@1stRanger
@1stRanger Год назад
@@oldgrunt5569 Forgot to take your medicine, grandpa?
@kurtjensen7264
@kurtjensen7264 Год назад
It’s disturbing how many companies we used to give so much praise. have fallen behind in quality. Thank you Luke. For giving us all the heads up.
@cb7677
@cb7677 Год назад
*Fjallen behind in quality you mean
@doransshield9176
@doransshield9176 Год назад
@@cb7677 lol
@circedge
@circedge Год назад
Or these companies were never the quality people make them out to be. Fjällräven is a casual, milquetoast outdoor brand, based in Sweden, where the climate overall is relatively mild. It works fine for that, but get the marketing department involved and suddenly people think it's some rugged outdoor brand because a few choice items are more durable than they're used to. You will never see Fjällräven or many other brands on actual expeditions, even though some pictures make some people think so.
@wayofthehike
@wayofthehike Год назад
The reviews and integrity found on this channel are without peer. Excellent, life saving / time saving / money saving information here.
@MWoodslore
@MWoodslore Год назад
Yep Whenever I'm looking into New Gear I go to TOGR First 👍
@KevinSmith-yh6tl
@KevinSmith-yh6tl Год назад
Absolutely, Spot On! 👍
@joecola6487
@joecola6487 Год назад
This guy is a gear head. He ABSOLUTELY speaks to help the uninformed from wasting time and money .
@guysmcfellas615
@guysmcfellas615 Год назад
@@oldgrunt5569 Prove it. From what I can see, you're just a salty boy hating on someone. Grow up.
@ThomasJeffersonWolfcall-kn3bx
@ThomasJeffersonWolfcall-kn3bx 8 месяцев назад
The MLA Handbook notes, “By convention, commas and periods that directly follow quotations go inside the closing quotation marks” (267).
@BSmith244
@BSmith244 Год назад
Disappointed and surprised to hear it has performed so badly. I love Fjallraven products but won’t be going near this one. Thanks for the great and honest review.
@peterasacker5948
@peterasacker5948 Год назад
great review that the company should take notice of. We appreciate your time and thoughts on the products that can make our lives better and safer
@azclaimjumper
@azclaimjumper Год назад
Amen!
@markthomas2436
@markthomas2436 Год назад
they won't take much notice. That is the ONE thing Luke over estimates. He is just one more dude on youtube rating gear. Companies won't make command decisions based on his opinion. He thinks they do, but they don't.
@azclaimjumper
@azclaimjumper Год назад
@@markthomas2436 Luke could provide a long list of companies that have contacted him after one of his review. Luke set a high bar when he was one of the first to call out MSR for their leaky tents.
@asoro_1632
@asoro_1632 Год назад
​@@markthomas2436jokes on you they email him, and did notice
@Chris-ov4zc
@Chris-ov4zc Год назад
Sil-sil products need to be seam sealed. It's just as simple as that. You can't seam tape sil-sil, as current seam tapes won't adhere to silicone. Manufacturers don't want to seam seal, because it greatly extends the manufacturing time/complexity, as they need to leave it to cure before they can package it. Most manufacturers who are using sil-sil materials simply state that you need to seam seal it yourself (or offer to seam seal for an extra charge). Sounds like Fjallraven didn't want to do that. Maybe they're positioning themselves more as a "lifestyle" product, assuming that their customers won't actually use their products in adverse weather.
@larsclausen9627
@larsclausen9627 Год назад
Exactly. Sealseaming on SiNylon is a customer task.
@mzinns
@mzinns Год назад
Luke, there is so much outdoor gear that is very overpriced and no huge advantage offered. Can you test and review some cheap alternatives? We were discussing using painters poles in place of Elephant poles……ideas like that. A lot of us use gear that has been re-purposed for camping. You did tests of the cheapest tents…..would love to see an extension of that concept.
@robnaylor4494
@robnaylor4494 Год назад
I have several pairs of Fjällräven trousers. Always loved them, but the newest pair I have is not built to the same standard as my older pairs. I guess they've gone the same way as a number of other historic outdoor brands...started chasing the "high street fashion" market to boost sales and lost sight of their core market. Being from rhe UK, one if the things I love about my older Fjällräven trousers is that the right hand thigh pocket takes a standard UK Ordnance Survey map and closes fully. My newest pair takes the map but doesn't quite close. Looks as if they've shaved half a cm (1/4 inch) off the pocket length!
@sonnicman
@sonnicman Год назад
Luke thank you for your videos and for your integrity. I've never seen a tarp stretch to the degree that this one does. I concur with your analysis. A shift has taken place in the manufacturing process with the manufacturer that suddenly has seriously compromised the quality of their product. My sincerest wish is that they see this video and take it to heart making the necessary changes needed to bring them back to previous quality levels.
@chrismoore600
@chrismoore600 Год назад
I respect your honesty. That's why I love your channel. Thanks Luke
@shramj
@shramj Год назад
Awesome, logical review. I will stick with my USMC field tarp. It may weigh more and is bulkier but is bulletproof and cost less then $40.
@rakeshmalik5385
@rakeshmalik5385 Год назад
That price tag is insane when a tarp with a similar weight and size is available from Paria, but that's only 1/3 the price. I also have a Kammock tarp which is similar, but a bit lighter.
@cgmislive
@cgmislive Год назад
their stuff is just insanely overpriced
@joseph401
@joseph401 Год назад
Yuppie hiking
@Overlord99762
@Overlord99762 Год назад
Indeed
@Thedagda801
@Thedagda801 Год назад
In fairness they do make some good kit! DD tarps brilliant.
@Reggy9
@Reggy9 Год назад
Yeah, and even their pants and stuff lost quality over the last couple of years. Just expensive and a fancy name, that's it nowadays. They supposed to make good stuff, but those times are gone.
@couchcamperTM
@couchcamperTM Год назад
@@Thedagda801 DD is not Fjallräven... but they make the best tarps. from cheap polyester, btw.
@azjames8789
@azjames8789 Год назад
I really do appreciate your agenda free channel and the time that you spend testing these products. I have three AquaQuest Defender tarps and they have never given me a problem. They are definitely heavy and cumbersome for the size but serve their purpose extremely well. In the versatility versus size and weight constraint debate I have found that a little extra weight and size can be beneficial if it protects you better in harsh conditions.
@phasmata3813
@phasmata3813 Год назад
I know hes a small cottage business, but im really so surprised that no one in these tarp videos ever mentions Cooke Custom Sewing. Dan Cooke's products are fantastic and total staples for trips here in canoe country.
@WisconsinEric
@WisconsinEric Год назад
The local canoe shop Rutabaga sells Cooke Custom Sewing tarps. I have heard very good things about them, but have no experience yet. I just looked at their Easton tarp poles last week and they seemed very reasonably priced
@MillimeterMech
@MillimeterMech Год назад
He’s not a cottage industry guy, he’s an Amazon/cheapest product channel. He peddles One Tigris and similar low end product/ affordable but not longevity gear. Garage Grown Gear has great resources for what you are taking about and I agree. Yes Fjallraven is premium and people say that there are cheaper alternatives, ok cool. I’ve had this tarp for two years and was surprised they didn’t seam seal it. However it took me twenty minutes and has held up without a flaw.
@phasmata3813
@phasmata3813 Год назад
@@MillimeterMech What are you talking about cuz it isn't CCS.
@JoeMac1983
@JoeMac1983 Год назад
Thank you for calling them out. They sell their souls for money by cutting corners for cheaper manufacturing and higher profit margins -- all while charging the customer the same or more for an inferior product. On a side note, I bought a Teton Mountain Ultra 1 person tent and put out through the ringer over the last 2 weeks. Lots of rain, 30mph sustained winds, and not a single drop got in the tent. I was impressed! Thank you for always testing these things for us and letting us make informed purchases!
@YuKonSama
@YuKonSama Год назад
I can support that issue with Fjallraven. I bought a Abisko View 2 Tent last year as a (very pricy) follow up to many impressive Fjallraven product that I had in the past. I abolutely love the tent as a general concept. As obvious by the name, the tent is constructed similar to the Tarp and it has the same issues. Very fitting for a swedish company, my tent failed me during a heavy rain while camping in sweden. Nothing monsune like, just heavy rain which it should easily survive. I will give it another try after seamsealing everything myself, but this is absolutely unexceptable for a tent in that price category. As there is a very positiv review for that tent (earlier fabrication date) on the TOGR channel as well, I would recommend to add a disclaimer,
@nodescriptionavailable3842
@nodescriptionavailable3842 Год назад
I bought a generic polyester(i believe) tarp a few yrs ago, i set it up and sprayed with a hose to see where it needed silicone spray. I sprayed those spots heavily and then gave the whole tarp a once over, its protected me from several SEVERE monsoon storms since then. 10×12 $35 gold armor(brand) the only thing is I wouldn't buy it today unless I had no choice because although its not 100% possible im attempting a Chinese boycott lol its not easy but damn, im trying
@jaymeyers950
@jaymeyers950 Год назад
Could go to harbor freight n get several tarps for that price n maybe last a couple years n save you a lot of money
@primordialhumandwarf
@primordialhumandwarf Год назад
yo the minute i saw college girls on campus wearing the kanken backpack or w.e. was the moment i realized that fjall raven is longer for outdoors or quality products, they are now amazon hipster aesthetic
@primordialhumandwarf
@primordialhumandwarf Год назад
@fou201 they was even wearing the PANTS man. THE FUGGN PANTS that joe robinet wears
@defiant4698
@defiant4698 Год назад
I've had my 3x3 DD tarp from DD Hammocks since 2020. It has held up fantastic and was only $75.
@Funkteon
@Funkteon Год назад
DD Hammocks tarps are the best in the business, and they are very affordable...
@johngalt6929
@johngalt6929 Год назад
"DD HAMMOCKS" is the best tarp value out there. I'm amazed Luke didn't mention them.
@azclaimjumper
@azclaimjumper Год назад
Thanks Luke, for taking your time, effort & Equipment to provide this agenda free review. I've read all the comments up to this point. I agree with many that said nice things about DD Tarps & AquaQuest Tarps. I've often wondered how long guyout lines should be on my AquaQuest. I've just finished creating sufficient number of 10' long guyout lines that are with the tarp & stakes in its storage sack. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada.
@sam3317
@sam3317 Год назад
Try out a DD superlight. Cheap, light and does the job perfectly. I've been using one for years, zero issues.
@supporterofsanity
@supporterofsanity Год назад
So I looked this up on Amazon and it literally says not water resistant in the description🤣
@briargoatkilla
@briargoatkilla Год назад
Heavy silnylon should always have a catenary cut.
@enriqueestebanantoniosuare6414
Luke, have you ever heard of DD Hammocks tarps? 190 T Polyester, PU treated 3000 mm waterproof coating... You are Honest, I like your reviews. Keep on the way!
@toddnewsom8129
@toddnewsom8129 Год назад
You mentioned you had three Fjallraven tents at home. I'm guessing you have a truck load of tents, tarps and gear. Maybe someday you can take a video tour of your stored gear. 😊
@davids5006
@davids5006 Год назад
It's gotta be a massive stockpile of gear lol
@FallingWaterAdventures
@FallingWaterAdventures Год назад
As someone who's designed tarps and tents for over two decades. Many of which have won national and international awards and copied by competitors. I'll have this to say about silicone coated nylon tarps, or shelters made with any silicone coated fabrics. To ensure a waterproof seam, they need to be hand seam sealed. Standard seam tape does not stick to silicone. There is no factory applied seam sealing for these kind of shelters. And we deal with factories around the globe. The advantage to silicone is that once sealed, it's sealed for life. Nor will it mold or mildew. Polyurethane coating will mold, mildew and in continued wet conditions, delaminate. The stretching is a function of the fabric weave and the fiber used in the rip stop. It will vary significantly depending upon the mill. In addition, because silicone penetrates into the woven fiber. It actually strengthens the fabric. Thus enhancing it's resistance to tear and allowing you to use a lighter fabric to achieve the same result. Polyurethane coating simply lies on top of the fabric and provide no structural support. All that said. There are some fabrics that are polyurethane coated on one side and silicone on the other. This allows the panels to be seam taped. The problem is that they are subject to mold, mildew and delamination. While the stretch is unfortunate and can be cause for a no go on purchase. The fact that it's not seam sealed shouldn't be. In our facilities, we hand seam seal thousands of tents each year for people. We also provide detailed instructions for how to perform this task both inexpensively and quickly.
@marylynne9104
@marylynne9104 Год назад
They have probably changed the thread for the seams etc. Probably to 100% Nylon from a natural or mixed fibre thread. If the thread doesn’t swell on contact with moisture, the needle holes will not be fully sealed, and then you get leaks. Also needle girth is critical. Possible they’re using thicker, stronger needles to avoid breakage and reduce costs, which will leave bigger holes which the thread does not swell enough to seal. I wonder if they’ve recently outsourced manufacture to China, like so many others.
@GlennLRiggs
@GlennLRiggs Год назад
I have the 4X4 meter DD TARP...Absolutely love it....been in down pours in Germany and Norway...not one leak or problems....I keep it in my auto along with other emergency equipment....
@pacificrider08
@pacificrider08 Год назад
Thank you for that informative review. My 2nd tarp was a 10 x 10 silnylon, loved it, and then I started researching other materials, first cuben fiber, too expensive, then 10 x 12 silpoly, and for now, it is the way to go, went from 3.5lbs to 1.5lbs. All home made in the USA!
@domcorleone66
@domcorleone66 Год назад
Appreciate your candor, Luke. Also appreciate the alternatives. Do you think that Fjallravan will respond? I have seen in some reviews where the companies have taken note of your reviews. All the best!
@stevenGallichan
@stevenGallichan 10 месяцев назад
Hi Luke I have just purchased a Fjällräven dome 2 Keb tent. I have not used yet about to winter camp on Dartmoor! Wish I had your info earlier. Look forward to your reviews. Steve
@hedleythorne
@hedleythorne 3 месяца назад
I have a new Fjallraven tent (Abisko Lite 1) and so far it seems fine. It did come with seam sealant but I haven't yet used it, but I will do. It does stretch though - I have gone from the polyester Jack Wolfskin Gossamer 2 to this tent and the stretching is really there.
@jamesparker6383
@jamesparker6383 Год назад
The Aqua Quest Defender comes to mind .
@azclaimjumper
@azclaimjumper Год назад
Any of the AquaQuest tarp lines will keep a person dry & come with a LIFETIME warranty.. DD Tarps which are well known in Europe is another brand that make tarps that are reliable & will keep you dry.
@ChrisC30
@ChrisC30 Год назад
I like DD as a brand personally. Got a 3x3 meter tarp that I love.
@rogerlivsey7046
@rogerlivsey7046 Год назад
Thanks for the review. I was going to buy this however I’ve opted for a British army basher. I’ve used them for years and can’t pick any faults other than their weight. I’ve also just bought an abisko lite 3, first outing was in very heavy rain and I can confirm it is very waterproof.
@zrbitax
@zrbitax Год назад
As a Swede, Fjällräven is more about style and trends nowadays, Hilleberg is still making quality goods if you want a tent from Sweden. They are expensive though.
@JamesMears76
@JamesMears76 Год назад
Would silicone seam sealant fix the issue?
@eternal7083
@eternal7083 Год назад
Bought a Hyperlite Mountain Gear dyneema tarp... Costs $450 but was worth it. Dyneema is hydrophobic, means it doesn't absorb water...and it doesn't stretch at all. love it!
@jimmyfields5831
@jimmyfields5831 Год назад
I got the aqua quest 15x15 defender it’s awesome, also have 10x10 bushcraft Spain oilskin which I love, that’s why I don’t mind the weight
@Szala45
@Szala45 Год назад
Hey, if you wanna solid tarp or ultralight tarp I can honestly recommend Lesovik from Poland. Great sturdy design, badass crocodille green or many fancy colors for ultralight series. Thx for vid.
@sarayuki8540
@sarayuki8540 Год назад
Love that you keep it real. I would not buy it. I did like that it was light but not if its going to leak and sag
@GeekfromYorkshire
@GeekfromYorkshire Год назад
Why not mix silicon with white spirit and brush on the seams? You have to do it with Tarptent. I've done on leaky seams and it works. The white spirit wicks the silicone into the holes then evaporates and the silicon has filled the holes. As for stretch yes silnylon stretches when wet so have the poles short and then lengthen them to handle stretch and yes I think what's making it stretch a lot is the thinness of the material (what causes the lower weight). I guess something this large shouldn't have used this silnylon.
@jjlyon100
@jjlyon100 Год назад
isn't it normal to have to seam seal *silicone* tents and tarps?
@leecasteen
@leecasteen Год назад
It is. A bit strange a “gear review expert” never even mentions this in the review. It’s common knowledge among hammock campers and backpackers.
@jjlyon100
@jjlyon100 Год назад
@@leecasteen yeah it is strange :/. I would of expected him to know better. I have a number of sil tents and gear from different manufacturers, all of it needed sil seam sealing for that extra bit of protection in the British weather
@Lou.B
@Lou.B Год назад
Thanks for the warning about FjallRaven!
@swedishpsychopath8795
@swedishpsychopath8795 Год назад
We swedes should send a big thank you to Norway for the nature we've got. As we know ALL the water, soil, rocks, seeds, etc, drifted from the Norwegian side during the last ice ages. We could even say Sweden belongs to Norway and they've let us borrow their land for free. The very least thing we should do is to have a 3 day thankfulness parade every year to thank Norway for letting us live free on their land.
@dustinrhodes2763
@dustinrhodes2763 Год назад
I recommend aqua quest their tarps from the lightweight to the heavy duty defenders are amazing and their warranty is even better. I purchased on Amazon and I had slight tearing of the stitching on the center tie out, and they replaced it. No questions asked. I’m glad they didn’t ask questions, because the tearing was absolutely my fault and not the fault of the tarp or manufacturer. Also they didn’t ask me to send in the one I broke and a little Shoe Goo later I have an extra tarp for what ever.
@00Klingon
@00Klingon Год назад
I wonder how this material compares to the Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil poncho/tarp? Would love to see a review of that in both uses. Thanks for all you do!
@linedwell
@linedwell Год назад
I've a few Fjallraven bits. They're ok but I think you pay a premium for the branding. I'd still pick 'DD Hammocks Tarps' every single time, they've never let me down.
@tannenherz
@tannenherz Год назад
High and thank you. I've thought about this tarp because of the weight. Kindly Fiete
@martensandstrom7343
@martensandstrom7343 Год назад
Hilleberg Tarp 10 UL is very good. I have also shifted from Fjällräven. But then again I come from the town where Hilleberg is located :)
@markcrowell2727
@markcrowell2727 Год назад
it's almost like they changed manufacturers...strange.
@gazlyno
@gazlyno Год назад
OMG Ray will be annoyed! LOL Seriously I am surprised and disappointed at Fjallraven. I value your views and opinions Thanks for sharing
@ericflood4347
@ericflood4347 Год назад
Hi Luke, I hope you are doing well. Have you ever tried out the Singi 48? If not, I think it's worth a review. My favorite pack of all time.
@VinlandAlchemist
@VinlandAlchemist Год назад
WOW, man... **thanks** for this! Much apreciated! 👍
@jenniferstewarts4851
@jenniferstewarts4851 Год назад
wouldn't it be interesting if the "stretching" problem was the cause of the water leaks? as the fabric stretches the seems get pulled apart and the holes get pulled open to the point that the absorbent threads can no longer compensate. So what should work, and would work on a product that didn't stretch, simply can't work due to the fiber separation.
@sebulban
@sebulban Год назад
To my experience their 4 season tents are superb and on par with hilleberg.
@Glyn69
@Glyn69 Год назад
Coming from the Uk, originally, I purchased Fjallraven products and agree the quality has tapered off over the years, maybe the Swedish influence and production supervision and checks have been slack , and agree they are very expensive
@theoriginalrabbithole
@theoriginalrabbithole Год назад
Excellent review. 👍
@geographyinaction7814
@geographyinaction7814 Год назад
I own the #8 Anorak, and the Barents Pro trousers as well as some fleeces, vests and shorts. I agree that some of their stuff is too expensive, but I will say this... Fjallraven gear, especially the pants, are a buy once, cry once item. I know people who are huge into bushcraft, climbing etc., and after 30-40 years are only in their 3rd or 4th pair...more so for sizing than being worn out. I have had the same pair of pants for eight years. The packs are solid too. I appreciate your channel, and agree on this tarp, but I won't stop buying Fjallraven based on one tarp review. Having said that, I agree with your comment on the possibility of Fjallraven gear losing quality, maybe because like a Yeti cooler, people (Yuppy Glampers) are buying the name despite there being better gear or gear that hasn't 'cheapened' due to increased production equaling a downfall in quality.
@shadomane
@shadomane Год назад
Thanks for the video and for sharing your thoughts and experience with us and thank you for the heads up on this product.
@scottcline8941
@scottcline8941 Год назад
I loved Fjallraven stuff, I actually own a couple of tents and their pants. Never had this tarp though as I prefer Aqua Quest but it’s disappointing if Fjallraven has failed so dramatically. Now I question will my tents leak. I trust Luke’s opinion over any review as he has never lied or try to sell us any products. Time to test my tents again..
@Chrispbacon99
@Chrispbacon99 Год назад
Best tarps are Aquaquest
@ztechrepairs
@ztechrepairs Год назад
Your service is truly appreciated!
@westonfurman3833
@westonfurman3833 Год назад
I made ten comments on the last storm video! Feeling the vibe, and diggin it! Why are the comments gone? I'm respectful! I think Luke should check his moderator! Does he really know, and trust him? ✊🤠👎💯
@olbaid84
@olbaid84 Год назад
Sucks that the product is failing, but price-wise, from what I've seen, seems to be about par for what a 10' x 10' silnylon tarp goes for these days. Kind of curious what the actual reason for failure is though, a production/manufacturing issue, or just simply the design is bad. With the design concept the way it is, I can easily see it being a manufacturing tolerance issue, and it's not like it's something that's easily noticeable/tested if it happens.
@Murls
@Murls Год назад
I reckon it will be that they have change manufactures, to cut costs, but this affects quality..
@FTW86itall
@FTW86itall Год назад
I just took my ov tent out in a storm and it did not stretch as bad as you are saying , it rained for hours and I had some stretch but nothing like what you are saying.
@bc81
@bc81 Год назад
The DD spuper light tarp is the one to go with, around 400g and £80.
@WildScotAurora
@WildScotAurora 6 месяцев назад
I had watched your earlier reviews on their tents and was about to hit the buy button on the abisko view tent. I'm not going to bother. Feeling gutted 😢
@WildScotAurora
@WildScotAurora 6 месяцев назад
Please help me choose a solid 3 season tent for backpacking in Scotland 😂 I'm going crazy looking at reviews. I can't justify paying for a hilleberg.
@stetomlinson3146
@stetomlinson3146 Год назад
Yes but when you factor in the diamond coated rip-stop material, golden threads hemming it and solid Titanium grommets, the price isn’t too bad! 😉🤣🤣
@raytaylor4199
@raytaylor4199 Год назад
Another company living off their name, thanks for this honest review, I’d never buy any of their products again!
@ebony5766
@ebony5766 Год назад
Thanks for you outstanding reviews.
@SolitaryDan
@SolitaryDan Год назад
I think a lot of the issue with the newer fjallraven stuff is that a lot of their new stuff is made in China.
@edpikestone6800
@edpikestone6800 Год назад
Have you reached out to Fjallraven for comment? Interested to see what they have to say. The one thing I have found with Fjallraven products is that they are designed for the Nordic climate and really for cold dry environments. If you try and use their products in more temperate environments they do not perform as well.
@roberthennings
@roberthennings Год назад
I think something has happened to fjallraven lately. My expensive abisko pants lost its button after a few days of use. Some shirts I bought are loosing their Color after just one wash and my camera strap left a pale stripe mark after one hike. Not to mention my zip off summer pants that felt like wearing a plastic bag😢
@myepicjourney8275
@myepicjourney8275 Год назад
hi, can you make a recommendation of what tarps are really good to use. waterproof windproof good for a shelter. at least 10 by 12 ft.
@shyzlolo
@shyzlolo Год назад
I can actually be ok with the leaking on the seam coz i can seamtape it but the stretching is a big NO. I love the lightweight feature but the stretching is just as big NO
@shahids3055
@shahids3055 Год назад
After watching this review, I would now prefer to invest in a DD Hammocks 3 x 3 Tarp. They are high quality. Great review, thanks! : )
@thegreatdck5295
@thegreatdck5295 Год назад
What are you using for your poles?
@davidroberts5577
@davidroberts5577 Год назад
Very much appreciated this review, though i must say it was very surprising. I was looking at their products based on many of your previous reviews.
@rodrigocappato4207
@rodrigocappato4207 Год назад
Nice and honest review! It would be great if you can review the DD Superlight Tarp!
@STB-jh7od
@STB-jh7od Год назад
My guess is FJR moved to less expensive factory to increase profits, but factory isn't up to par.
@anthonyromano8565
@anthonyromano8565 Год назад
My green tarp from Campmor nylon 1/8 inch grid rip stop 12 x 9.5 weighs 1.3 lbs. Cost about 100 bucks maybe 15 years ago. I almost thought that was my tarp.
@nedanother9382
@nedanother9382 Год назад
I feel like a bit of an idiot in that I'm about a week away from ordering a tarp thats 3 times as expensive. It'll be waterproof for sure but damn folks are proud of these products at these prices. We'll see.
@jerryfife2015tacoma
@jerryfife2015tacoma Год назад
Hi Luke, Hope all is well with you and your family. So no way would I spend that money on a tarp that leaks and even that size I wouldn't. I have the Onetigris tarp and the Helikon Tex tarp and a couple the Aqua Quest tarps and these all have proven to me to be superior to me as much as I use them, great tarps for the money. I don't buy much Fjallraven stuff, I have a couple of pants with them and that is it, they are good but I get along just fine with buying a lot cheaper brands out here. Thanks for the review great work. Stay Safe my freind.
@D.Trider
@D.Trider 5 месяцев назад
This is a little overblown I’d say. I have two fjallraven tents and they’re great! Maybe the tarp was a defective product… I wouldn’t dismiss an entire company because of one bad experience.
@bryanclarke1927
@bryanclarke1927 Год назад
I bought an Abisko Light 1 tent in the UK back in 2021. On the first outing the zip on the inner failed. It was a very cool, windy night and I had summer gear so I was less than impressed. I contacted Fjallraven and told them about this defect and didn't get any real feedback at all. Pathetic customer service. So I then got in touch with the seller and they refused to replace the tent! The seams aren't sealed either due to the fabric type and in the rainy UK this is not good. I have since bought cheaper tents that are far more bombproof. Overrated and priced imo
@MrMr00119922
@MrMr00119922 Год назад
I'd love to see Fjallraven make a "canvas style" tarp out of their G1000 material.
@nightrazer85
@nightrazer85 Год назад
how well does it hold up to Hail and Heavy Winds? Does is hold up or Rip at the seams? And will it hold up to falling sharp sticks from trees?
@Ricc131
@Ricc131 Год назад
I bought one of these on the back of your first look Luke but not used it yet as have a few fav tarps I use ……my OEX is better than this, glad I caught the update as I’ll now not take it out in bad weather etc. Saved me some pain 👍👍
@scotbotvideos
@scotbotvideos Год назад
Aqua Quest for the win each & every time.
@scotbotvideos
@scotbotvideos Год назад
@fou201 Not really brand loyal at all. I've got a real hodge podge of stuff.
@ipsc2alpha
@ipsc2alpha Год назад
Love my Aquaquest
@FotogenDK
@FotogenDK Год назад
Dear Luke... thanks for the pro´s and cons! :-)
@jlastre
@jlastre 3 месяца назад
Glad I bought a Rab tarp many years ago. Sort of disappointed in Fjällräven
@kevinschwinkendorf3202
@kevinschwinkendorf3202 Год назад
When you talk to the manufacturer about their product cons, how do they react?
@JonStockman82
@JonStockman82 Год назад
A leaky tarp that doesn't protect you from the elements isn't worth anything 140 or 1.40. Any tarp for any reason, be camping, bushcraft, hunting, protecting garden furniture etc it's main function is to keep stuff dry. That's just a £110 sun shade.
@Joe_HamRadioGuy
@Joe_HamRadioGuy Год назад
Ya for the price they charge they should be better. If it weren't for the stretching probably could get away with seam sealing it but for it to stretch that bad isn't worth it.
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