I can't stop using Safari on Mac! 

Reader Mode if for no other reason, Reader mode for Safari is a godsend.

A handy feature in Safari is the ability to pause a video and select and copy text from the video. In full screen there will appear an icon in the bottom right corner that allows you to auto select and extract links phone numbers and other useful info.

I've started using Arc, I just don't see myself coming back to any other browser. Feels really good!

Hey Jerry! Just wanted to say that I love your videos! Keep up the great work 😊

Great video Jerry! I have been using Safari on my iPhone and my Mac and it has been amazing. I’m from Saigon and it was kind of fun to see on your browser tabs that you are looking for accommodation in Saigon. Hope to see you around! ❤

Great video, I’m about to set up an iMac M3 and intend to stay with safari. I’ve got Chrome on my old iMac not going with it on new.

You’ve kind of made me want to go back to Safari. I use Arc atm and I love it but I might give Safari a go again. I love their built in reader and the MFA/Passkey stuff is definitely amazing.

It looks like I have to pay for iCloud+ to use Hide my email?

I had some graphics issues with Safari using my M2 Mac Mini but 'fixed' them switching to the Safari Technology Preview version.

Nice but how to translate pages like in Chrome? It works seamlessly with Google Translate extension

Great video, I tested memory and CPU usage, but Safari always consumes less power and memory than Brave. Which search engine do you recommend setting on Safari, to have privacy but also accuracy of results?

I also love Safari and use it all the time. Great video buddy.

This is just my hunch but-You still have 5gb of memory available without much pressure. It probably doesn’t matter yet if Safari may be using a bit more. If it is using more, it may be a memory-performance trade off that Brave is just balancing differently (eg worse performance when you go back to an older and/or heavier tab).

Another feature - Safari has stabilized, and bouts of freezing or latency that I saw on early on with my Mac Pro 14 M2 are absent - even on the most graphic heavy pages.

I probably should give it a go since I run a pihole on my network.

What’s the name of the app you used to view memory usage? That’s way easier to understand than the native Mac app

I mostly use Safari. Once in a while Edge for work related things. One of the features I like in Safari which wasn't mentioned is "add to dock". I use that for RU-vid and The Weather Channel. Another informative video, thanks Jerry!

At 10:15 which app is this one, please? At 12:24 and why not Chrome?

I agree with all the positive Safari features detailed in this video. My Speedometer 3 test results using the Safari and Brave browsers were 35.5 and 33.5, respectively. My internet download speeds are near 300 Mbps on average. To run those browser tests I used a 14" M3 Pro MBP .

Appreciate you unbiased view. I also far prefer using safari. It just feels like software actually made to feel nice to use, the overall UI fluidity is fantastic.

You didn't mention that safari uses much less power on battery 👍🏻

My main issue is opening a new tab next to the next one. Ad blocking also sucks on safari and that is why I think Safari uses more memory

My biggest gripe with Safari is that when you select a folder with bookmarks in the Favorites bar (which drops down all the bookmarks in the folder) and mouse away, the drop down stays. The Favorites bar with folders should respond like the Menus in MacOS.

I NEVER use Chrome and ALWAYS use Safari.

10:24 you said you had other tab groups on safari, could that be why safari is using 4.5 gigs of ram?

I had thousands randomized email addresses linked to my primary email. I always forget to delete em until last week. I noticed I am scrolling less now to find that one important email

Good intel. Is Firefox any better?

90% Safari user, 10 % Chrome user

I don't use Safari because the tabs are too small, I can't see my Tradingview prices.

I agree with all of your points about the performance and stability of Safari. It's often fine, but I do notice the occasional slowness or instability, especially after prolonged usage. On my M1 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM, Arc Browser (Chromium-based) actually uses so little memory, having tons of RU-vid pages open still results in a green memory pressure graph. Chromium's memory saver feature works really well, and Apple should add something like that to Safari as well.

I’d like to see safari add a Chrome tab. I work in a PC world as a VAR and need to get certified training, HP, Lenovo, Microsoft etc. It forces me to use Chrome which is a bit of a messy browser. Otherwise I’d use Safari full time. I do like when I can log in on the same sites w my iPhone and IMac.

If your work relies on GSuite Safari just cant’t handle it right: e.g. switching bluetooth channels after one finishes google meet call. The only solution is to restart the browser. And for the memory consumption: sole youtube tab takes about 1Gb in Safari. This is just insane

For those who don’t watch feature 3, Safari does vertical tabs. Just show the sidebar from the View menu or click the button like Jerry shows. But then, take it a bit further by expanding the tab group using to get the full vertical tab bar experience (I didn’t see those shown in feature 3). Additionally, you can hide the top tab bar with or without the sidebar open to get some additional vertical space back. I like how Orion organizes tabs vertically in a hierarchy. So tabs opened from another tab will be nested/indented, so you can visually make more sense of your mess of tabs, and close subsets that are likely related.

Why Brave? And not Chrome? Maybe you said and I missed it.

eye opening

does it supports promotion? because i tested mine on testufo and it also shows 60fps unlike in chrome it supports 120fps

I am using Safari since a few week and It is slowly become my favourite web browser

0:58 👍

I hate the hide my email. I turned it on but I don’t know how to turn it off.

I use Orion, best of both worlds 😍

Hi Jerry, this is the first one of your videos I have watched on RU-vid, Safari is my go to daily driver web browser. I did download edge for my Mac only for those one offs that don't work like it should in Safari, but unlike you I don't have a bunch of tabs open if any I may have a total of four. I rarely have an issue in Safari and if a page isn't working like it should in Safari, I will check with edge and 9/10 it will work there. Again very rare. This crap about browser wars is stupid at best, If something works and I am happy with it, It won't matter to me how lightening fast another product may be. Besides, as it was said, if you are not paying for the product. You are the product and since we pay a premium price for Mac's I feel anything we get from Apple that claims to be free is already paid for in the high prices they charge, but with Google and others Na! everyone can have them that's fine as long as we are all happy that all that matters.

I us safari on my Mac because it's the only that scrolls smoothly with pro motion. Everything else feels less smooth. Usually I prefer firefox

My reasons for staying with Safari: 1. Keychain (why isn’t Apple letting other browsers support this?) 2. Share Extensions - I share a lot of stuff from Safari to the Notes app e.t.c (again, Apple doesn’t seem to allow 3rd party browser support) 3. I used to use Chrome but I noticed Google was pushing software updates in the background and none of the instructions to disable it worked so I quit Chrome for good.

I use Orion ( it's Safari with Extensions)

3:19 I would use it once i figure out how to stop these auto reload of tabs.

Safari is great. I don’t know why more people don’t use it. It’s my default browser.

La razón de que tenga Safari más memoria, la encuestas en la barra donde agregaste las páginas como si fueras apps independientes. Lo ideal, hubiera sido reiniciar el Macbook, abrir mismas pestañas y pasado 10 min hacer la prueba

I was using Safari as my main browser on iPhone and Mac. But recently I noticed that Safari uses A LOT of Ram without any logical reason… that’s why I moved to Arc browser on both iPhone and Mac, the browser brought some innovative features that help me in my daily life.

Safari/Orion/Brave 💯

I had no idea Brave existed until your video. Downloaded it and love it. Perfect timing because the new Chrome look is f**king terrible. I have tried to make Safari work a few times now but I think I will now stick with Brave. It just works better with Gmail, RU-vid and Google Docs. Brave definitely feels snappier than Safari.

for an odd reason my m2pro Mac mini with 16 gb ram is much better ram optimised when using 15 tabs on chrome rather than safari. For me Safari is taking up to 13 gb ram just for 5 to 6 tabs open ..... what is wrong with apple ....

My experience is different, Safari feels the quickest of all the browsers I have used, a bit faster than Brave and noticeably faster than Arc. And Safari may use a bit more memory than Brave, Brave uses more CPU.

I've been using safari since it's first launch as I 'm a mac user since 95. Sadly even though I love it, it lacks of few things. I learnt to use chrome for webdevelopment and never understood why safari was so hard to use for this task and slowly starts to get on to it while Apple always claimed to be on top in this field. The worst with time is Safari as google takes all your memory so it's hard when apple sells computers with 8 g Ram when only browsers need that memory to function!!!

I think Safari _used to_ use less resources than anything else, but not in recent years. Yes, I found Brave much lighter on resources now, also.

As always interesting take on the topic but the points your raise against using Safari are major and very annoying. I don't understand why you still recommend it when you say it is slow, using more memory and tabs stop working from time to time?

Me watched this video in the Firefox browser and laughed when he started with "Chances are that you are watching this video in the Chrome/ chromium-browser"

So you love Safari for a few conveniences (some of which are available on chromium browsers) it's privacy features (hello Brave browser) but it's a memory hog, it's slow, and has website loading issues

In my MBA15 M2 512/16GB I got these scores on Speedometer 3.0: - Safari > 31.5 - Firefox > 29.2 - Chrome > 25.9-27.5 - Edge > 25.6-26.5

I’m 100% safari - reader and reading list are two of the main reasons.

I used to use Safari until a couple of years ago. 😕 I never understood why people complained about it so much until it started crashing on me, literally brand new out of the box, whenever I bought a new Mac for some reason. Now, I use Chrome like everybody else. 😅

I used to be a browser whore and used them all, but especially Chrome and Brave. But now I use Safari exclusively.

I find safari uses less cpu compared to Firefox. (m1 mac)

Arc browser is the way iykyk

Watching on Arc.

Nope don’t save password within Keychain. If you forget your password or can’t access to your account for any reason, you’ll lose access to all those accounts. Use an external password manager for that.

Am I the only one who uses edge on mac and find it better suited for most times?

Safari is the best option for a Mac. But there are some cases where are not, and those cases exist because the pages it is not optimized for Safari. The Google Doc example is worst course it is not fully compatible on purpose, for you to use Chrome.

your Safari "speed problem" depends on your "private" Surfing... Apple uses it´s own vpn-like-service...and it´s often slow The refreshing problem with your Google-Doc´s is analog to it... greetings from Germany...

Safari just lacks extensions or they cost. Otherwise I’d use it. Safari is by far the most optimised and fastest browser on Mac that I have so far tested.

This makes me want to use a Mac.

I don’t think anyone ever stopped you from using it.

I use safari most of the time😇

Hide my email is not a safari feature; it’s an iCloud+ feature.

Safari is the best !!!

Other browsers already have these "features" and much more. I can imagine some person, who is surfing the web only, and doesn't need anything except the default browser, maybe this is the main scenario to use safari, idk. But not in my case, with 3 profiles for different purposes, and 4 devices, that have aboard android, windows, macos, ipados and it all need to be synchronized between each other. I don't even talk about extensions, which are an integral part of the browser's user experience, and you can literally find an extension for any need. Man, you are awesome, thanks for the video, it's very fun, now i must find something similar, reasons why i need to use internet explorer on windows😁😁😁😁

I also use safari but all 6 items are available in chrome, too. Using less memory and system resources, yes Safari wins.

facebook doesn't work in Safari

• Atrocious bookmark management • Useless history (search) • Unreliable tab group sync • The list could go on and on …

Safari for Apple devices. Edge on Windows PC

I really like its reader mode. It's the best, followed by Firefox's reader mode

I don't understand you at all. Brave faster than Safari? Safari is maybe 50% lighter than ALL Windows browsers. I use Windows every day, and I have just got the air M3. How can you compare any Windows browsers against Safari?! 👎

Biggest problem is that it’s locked to the Apple ecosystem

I can and I did!!! Safari is GARBAGE because the adblocker does not work all the time. Like adguard as a chorme based browser extension WORKS perfectly. Safari DOES not. It will show more ads throughout the internet which is a turn down. More over heavy sites that require quite the computation will CRASH and be slow or bugged on safari while Chrome on the same machine will continue being smooth. How can a 2024 browser feel broken on MAC os but the my ipad or my iphone run it with no major problems? I think that safari on MAC is not really ready for some desktop pages which do work on chrome better. Yes safari has good qualities but you need to balance the use. Chrome can be used for everything while safari must be used in some cases. this can make you forget that safari exists but we all know safari is better on the battery as it is more efficient. Watch netflix or other video playback on safari and the rest of the browsing on chrome. This is my use case. Like you can see it on the verge in the video. With the same adblock chrome will NOT show any ads.

Every time I give safari an opportunity there’s something that ruins my browsing experience with it.

safari is notepad, (firefox, chrome) is ms word.

I hate safari and despise the fact that I cannot easily remove it from my computer.