Exactly. The girl in the origional audio literally did nothing but embarrass herself when that went live. She was so happy the boys picked her but was it worth it? Bc now the whole internet is calling her on her shit. Like tbh if you dont like make up you dont have to mf comment on it or make comments on someone else who wears and likes it. The fact that she did is what makes her a pick me. Also its so funny too bc she was deffo wearing mascara and concealer while she talked mad shit about make up. None of the incel men even noticed and it made her feel so validated even tho most men (especially these ones) dont know the difference between light make up and natural face. Meanwhile the other girls were side eyeing her as if to say, "you have on make up but okay" The fact they didnt call her on it makes them better than ill ever be
Yeah say this louder!! All these people saying she’s a pick me are making me feel bad for agreeing with her sentiment .I do think that makeup does capitalise of womens insecurities but women should be able to do what they want.I wear it on occasion because it’s human to want to feel prettier and look better.
Yeah, she could've said "I don't personally wear makeup, but it can be an art form and I admire those that use it in order to express themselves. It's just not for me. However, many cosmetics companies capitalize on women's insecurities and I wish that wasn't the case." Something along those lines. It states she doesn't like makeup and also mentions how big companies are not blameless, but isn't throwing shade at any women. I'm sorry, but men usually express their aggression physically. Women usually employ other more subtle tactics. Perhaps it is because we are women that we can tell when a woman is throwing shade while men can't. That's part of what makes someone a pick me. They say what men want to hear and try to seem innocent, but we know... lol
You just dislike it when someone says something that's true if she would've said " makeup is good I love makeup I think it helps women feel more of themselves and they cover up Insecurities so they can feel confident 😊" I bet y'all wouldn't be hating on Her instead be happy and say how great she is and etc 🥹🤣
Hating makeup as a woman doesn’t make you a pick me… the subtle shaming of women who wear makeup to a group of men is what makes you a pick me. She was trying her HARDEST to not be like the “other girls”
I think this was giving pick me vibes when she said "I think it takes away from a woman's natural beauty" you don't need to put others down to pop yourself up. This absolutely was giving pick me vibes. Plenty of people can wear makeup and still have their natural beauty popping we don't need to make others feel like they're not being their authentic self's because of how they express themselves... Now if she said you shouldn't have to feel like you need to rely on it or be dependent on it sure but this didn't pass the vibe check.
@@OE2023 Do us women literally just echo the same thing we hear from feminists all the time? Open your freaking eyes. Teenage girls are insecure and depressed about their looks because they see dolled up women on social media all day long. People today are exposed to more heavy metals and toxic chemicals than ever before. She has a point. But no. You’re going to echo the same thing that you’ve heard from every social media influencer you’ve ever heard and say, “pick me pick me she’s a pick me!”…I don’t agree with a lot of these alpha male podcasts but I still listen and offer my thoughts instead of pulling out buzzwords
Yes it does. Bc you can not like it and choose not to wear it but that's you. Don't go sharing the incorrect notion that it's bad for you and it's toxic just say you personally don't wear it and leave it at that. Tearing down other women for basic feminine Traits is the definition of a pick me.
@@thebellydancingbeauty Checkout ur fav makeup brands and you'll find heavy metals or Endocrine disrupting chemicals at least. Some brands are clean and that's the minority. So yes mostly it's bad for your overall health
I love makeup but how does a girl saying in a podcast she is invited to talk in I don’t like makeup makes her pick me?? Are u fr? She was mostly saying the truth anyway as explain contorting is to sculpt your face so it won’t be dimension less so it doesn’t look big and chubby. The whole concept of “make up” is to make up what u originally lack or do not have.
U saw a 20 second clip u moose Shut up A pick me because she don’t like make up and stating cold hard facts ? U think she’s saying that for a man? Stupid as a though
Do us women literally just echo the same thing we hear from feminists all the time? Open your freaking eyes. Teenage girls are insecure and depressed about their looks because they see dolled up women on social media all day long. People today are exposed to more heavy metals and toxic chemicals than ever before. She has a point. But no. You’re going to echo the same thing that you’ve heard from every social media influencer you’ve ever heard and say, “pick me pick me she’s a pick me!”…I don’t agree with a lot of these alpha male podcasts but I still listen and offer my thoughts instead of pulling out buzzwords
Honestly makeup has helped me become so much more confident and it built it up so now on the days I don’t wear makeup(most of the time) I can actually see that I’m beautiful. My self esteem was so low before I started wearing makeup I just couldn’t see that. Do what makes you feel confident and beautiful.
I mean yeah, she has a point about makeup making some younger girls insecure/making your skin unhealthy sometimes, but I think it everyone’s personal choice. It’s fun (makeup) and interesting if you love your natural beauty and respect yourself thinking about it as if it is an entertainment because it is. (Also, thanks for the makeup tutorial, I really wanna try it)
Right, it's great when it's something you love as an art form, and as a confidence booster, but if you feel pressured into using it, or like you are lesser without, that's where it can become an issue. I love makeup, but I wish it could exist with equal access for everyone without so much societal baggage.
I agree… I love makeup but don’t use much of it, I don’t shame girls who like it but there are some that put so much on that it’s a true catfish to a guy when they take it off lol 😂
What pisses me off is the fact that there’s more women who don’t wear makeup than there are ones who do and they’re made out to be non existent. It really shows you that people don’t really prefer no makeup, they have a problem with the attention women who use it get
I don't know which developing country you live in but I have been living in the US and Europe and girls wear makeup from the age of 12 here again it may be different where you live but I agree with her they are taking advantage of an insecurity.
I really don't think her opinion of not liking makeup is bad if she kept it to her opinion only but she also says girls that do wear makeup are insecure. I don't think she had any business making assumptions about strangers. Most people just like colorful glittery shadow and cute lipstick. The talking down about other women is what makes her a "pick me" girl.
@@myusernamehere Again her opinion about not liking makeup is fine but calling others names like (insecure) isn't ok. Making judgments and assumptions about how others think or feel isn't ok.
I personally don’t prefer it because I don’t want to ever feel insecure without it but some people really make it a work of art and I’m blown away by it!
I personally see absolutely nothing wrong with this audio. It’s okay for her to have her own opinion on makeup. It doesn’t make her a pick me girl. People are allowed to have different opinions and thoughts on things without being a bad person for it. I too believe that makeup brands capitalize off of women’s insecurities and I still wear makeup. I actually agree with her wholeheartedly, but I still wear makeup. It truly doesn’t matter.
If u don’t like makeup then simply don’t wear it duhhh… but trying to tear other women down for liking it and wearing it is absolutely giving “pick me” cause u COULD just kind your own business
Imagine a woman saying "I think women should be wearing makeup, to enhance their beauty. I love makeup and I'm for it and I think women need to be using it, honestly." She was making a declaration about what all women should or shouldn't be doing rather than just talking about HER personal preference.
Nothing she said in the audio sound like she is tearing women down. She is just stating an opinion and the guy just cheer her on. Now hearing that statement we can think about it objectively and decided whether, I myself, disagree or agree with the statement.
for me, makeup is an art form and I also love making my eyes stand out :) aside from acne, I do not change (or try to change) any features on my face. It’s really annoying when people come out and say this stuff
all makeup is not face-altering nor does it make you look like a different person . sometimes women use it to enhance their natural beauty or add some color to their face . so the argument is dead .
Okay but it’s still full of toxic chemicals and it still capitalized on women’s insecurities. Doesn’t it make you feel a little weird that 11 year old girls feel the need to wear fake lashes and plumping lip gloss?
@@SabrinaCarpenterFanAcc yes but I’m not talking about those cases . I’m talking about the cases where women use makeup simply to add color to their face , complement their outfit , or enhance their natural beauty . the extreme cases are not even makeup’s fault , it’s society’s fault for putting so much emphasis on beauty standards for young women .
Stop the cap! Its alot of girls and women walking around with drag queen face. That's actually the norm. l have rarely seen them use it to inhance on their natural beauty.
I mean as a woman who wears makeup, I definitely understand her point. Girls are growing up hyper focused on their appearance and a lot of them start wearing makeup to cover up insecurities. If makeup was just about trying different looks and fun colors, then that can be explained away with ‘self expression’, but we all know lots of girls wear makeup to cover up blemishes or make their eyes or lips bigger, etc. There’s nothing inherently wrong with makeup, but it is true that makeup brands are capitalizing off of peoples’ insecurities and it sucks.
I like makeup because it's kinda like art. Tbh I don't do full on glam makeup (I'm not a professional) I do natural makeup that compliments my features and sometimes I like to experiment, it's really fun!
I commented this on the actual video. You can wear make up and not be insecure. People can actually do make up for art purposes and be happy in life. People be make up free and insecure and miserable. It just really depends on the person. It goes both ways just don’t blame makeup.
The girl talks about how makeup capitalizes over women's insecurities , but it doesnt mean youre insecure. Makeup IS terrible for your skin weather you like it or not - coming from a person who wears makeup daily
The guy in the background going "THATS AWESOME" 💀 when she's wearing the makeup in the actual clip lmao I love how this girl is using the audio though ❤❤
My face is my canvas and I paint my heart out on it. So for the girls that say natural beauty is better first understand what natural beauty means… natural beauty is what’s inside that project outside, not bare face.
I do agree that makeup is meant to capitalize off women’s insecurities, a little history lesson will prove that the beauty industry was created to keep women in their place. However, I think in 2023 it’s been taken to such a different level, and I don’t think it’s a problem to wear it at all. As long as we realize that the beauty industry doesn’t care about our wellbeing, they care about money, so have fun but don’t be a slave to it!
I don't wear makeup cause I have sensitive skin. If I wear wrong foundation or powder, then BOOM! Instant break out. I only wear them on special occasions for no more than 2 hours. Any longer than that, my skin will start to feel itchy. 😢 But make up is cool. Whether you choose to wear it or not, doesn't make you better or worse than others.
Me personally…..I don’t like makeup. And whenever someone says that, they’re immediately called a pick me girl 😭 I honestly don’t like makeup bc I’ve seen so many girls cry or feel very insecure after they take off their makeup, and I don’t wanna feel like that. It’s just not for me 😙✌️
you don't like it, that's fine. but you don't need to announce it lmao no one cares. ive never worn makeup in my life yet i don't go around making others feel bad for wearing it.
You’re not a pick me for not liking makeup it’s your life. The girl in the audio is a pick me because she was doing this little speech specifically for male approval and she was throwing other women under the bus with her “I don’t like makeup I’m not insecure like you other girls”
the passive aggressiveness is so obvious from the girl which is why everyone’s hating on her. No one’s hating on her cuz she prefers no makeup tf, it’s everything else people do all sorts for confidence boosters, but they wanna hyper-fixate on makeup cuz women-hate is so popular rn. It’s also an art, a form of self-expression. She was hella rude and made her opinion about everyone and what they should and shouldn’t do, how if she could ban makeup she would, like who tf does she think she is. She should just speak for herself, I mean nobody would have an issue if she did just that. Then miss ma’am was looking around the room for male validation and got giddy when she got it. She felt proud seeing the girls’ hurt faces, it’s clear what she was doing. us girls are meant to stick together, instead society tries to pin us against each other.
@@emmastone8779 you can see it as passive aggressive behaviour, but whatever 🤷🏻♀️ I saw the vid. It still doesn’t matter because her opinion is based. The girls in the room obviously were the ones she was talking about 🫢
She was putting down other women that wear make up, WHILE WEARING MAKE UP, and only doing it to get cheers from guys bro 😂 it’s not pick me to not like make up, that’s a preference. it’s pick me to make guys believe ur not wearing make up and putting down other women for wearing make up, it’s just insecure to be honest
@@miriamlevy2514 “putting down other women” Go sit in a corner. Where the fuck was she putting down women by saying what? It’s not good for them? They’re marketing off your insecurities? Cause that’s exactly what it is. You sit there in front of a mirror with all these different products to cover up things you don’t like or contour to bring out dimension you don’t actually have. Or using these false eyelashes that aren’t yours. Over lining your lips cause we know your lips aren’t that big. Stop.
I mean for most of my life I didn't wear makeup until a few years ago I look good with or without it but it's just fun to put it on Plus that girl that’s talking about she don’t like make up she’s white let’s see if she’s gonna feel the same way about make up when she hits 35 we all know how white people age she’s going to change her mind real fast about make up she’s only saying that now because she’s young😂
Interesting how she said they. She had dyed hair she’s a bloody hypocrite. I don’t wear makeup all the time but I love to use it when going out and it’s fun like art! Man she just got me so bad!
the mentality behind saying that shit is so funny to me. I mean, yes, the girl is a pick me, but its also pathologizing something thats literally so normal. Like i for instance put makeup on when im happy and in the mood for it. Its just chill. Not a symptom of idfk some kind of neurological and physiological melt down waiting to happen
The girl in the voiceover has videos herself on tiktok with full face of makeup. She was simply trying to make the ”alpha bros” believe she wasn’t wearing any to elevate her image compared to other women.
@@Jiggleofexistence no she wasn't. She was simply stating her OPINION on why she doesn't like make-up much (though she probably wears it from time to time) & 2: she did share some actual harsh facts about the toxic beauty industry that most times market their products towards women's insecurities. That is actually true but oh well...
capitalizing off my insecurities my ass, makeup is an art. it makes you feel so good, i’ve done my makeup at 2 am & washed it off 30 mins later because it’s literally just a fun activity for me. if she cared about woman’s insecurities why in the fuck would she bash people for wearing makeup? do you think the girls that feel like they NEED to wear makeup are not insecure enough?
this audio is literally her just using a bunch of buzzwords and phrases she heard and saying it for clout lol “capitalizing off women’s insecurities” we literally wear makeup because it’s a form of self expression just like the clothing you wear. not all of us want just our bare faces all the time.
that’s not the full truth and you know it. if you and others wear makeup as a form of self expression good for you but don’t deny the damage that the beauty industry causes. there are a lot of insecure women who use makeup to hide their perceived imperfections and to try and fit more into the beauty standard. the woman talking is not wrong, it’s just that she was being hypocritical and trying to appeal to those men in the podcast that makes what she’s saying kinda void. makeup and plastic surgeries are not empowering. period.
@@gateway2hell there are women that use it for that, so what? its not only women that have insecurities, and there are millions of other products on the market made with the sole purpose of helping with them. do you also go out of your way to criticize body shapewear, rogaine, or teeth whitening strips? its unfair to crucify a whole industry for the select group of people that use their products to hide insecurities. blame society for making and upholding expectations of how people should look
I wear makeup but the girl talking is lowkey right they do take advantage of people’s insecurities to seek products knowing it won’t help. Like the foundations that claim to improve your acne for example. And at times I agree it does take from our beauty 😅 when we do toooo much and everyone that does makeup knows there’s a such thing as too much and I’d you think otherwise your straight lying to yourself because nobody ever intentionally wants a cake face like I’m talkin 2016 makeup + meridiths foundation rountine level cake 😭 everyone goes for the flawless base look. All I’m saying is we really don’t need half the products they be trying to sell and should be mindful of what we buy because most of the makeup we use has so many chemicals in it , like hella bad ones (period products as well) that we should care about. Looking pretty is one thing but you gotta be alive and well to do so take care of your body cause you only get one. And also don’t go overboard with your look makeup is to emphasize your features not change them ❤ Ps I’m not saying the creator in the video has a cake face or too much makeup and I’m also not telling anyone not to wear it I’m just giving advice and sharing my opinion on the audio as a person who wears makeup but is conscious about what I do put on my face and body because majority of products aren’t the safest for skin.
After I started wearing make up, my skin actually got a lot better. Idk why. I guess because the routine I did before make up and after I took it off, it really cleared up my face. I also think the layer of make up kind of let the dirt from outside and stuff sit and not absorb into my skin (I live in a big city)
I agree with your comment, the girl in the voice over however was hella rude tho and made her opinion about everyone and what they should and shouldn’t do, how if she could ban makeup she would, like who tf does she think she is. She should just speak for herself, I mean nobody would have an issue if she did just that. Then miss ma’am was looking around the room for male validation and got giddy when she got it. She felt proud seeing the girls’ hurt faces, it’s clear what she was doing. us girls are meant to stick together, instead society tries to pin us against each other.
I love makeup and I’m a guy. Been wearing it for 17 years now and nobody, besides makeup gals, can understand my confidence and amazing skin texture! It’s a VIBE ❤
If they deeply care about how people experience life and the pain that comes from what makeup may bring or support I find it odd that they want to make people who wear make up feel weird about wearing make up
There's NOTHING WRONG with what the girl said in this audio. Taken out of context, people will be quick to bash her or call her a 'pick me'. But no that IS NOT what the girl was doing. This audio is from an interview clip and she was basically stating her OPINION about why she doesn't like make-up (along with some harsh facts about the make-up industry🤷🏾♀️) make-up! She was in no way, shape or form just bashing women for wearing make-up & quite frankly if you are offended you are just validating a bit of what she said as that shows that you are insecure in your own decision/reason of wearing make-up 🥲.
the passive aggressiveness is so obvious from the girl which is why everyone’s hating on her. No one’s hating on her cuz she prefers no makeup tf, it’s everything else people do all sorts for confidence boosters, but they wanna hyper-fixate on makeup cuz women-hate is so popular rn. She was hella rude and made her opinion about everyone and what they should and shouldn’t do, how if she could ban makeup she would, like who tf does she think she is. She should just speak for herself, I mean nobody would have an issue if she did just that. Then miss ma’am was looking around the room for male validation and got giddy when she got it. She felt proud seeing the girls’ hurt faces, it’s clear what she was doing. us girls are meant to stick together, instead society tries to pin us against each other.
@@emmastone8779 Eh I disagree. Maybe she hit a huge sore spot for most of yall with facts & that's why many feel the need to resort to hating on her. To me that says more about their character than hers because even if she was 'hating' on women why be a bully back? Smh they are just no better than her
In the context the audio was actually filmed, the girl is definitely a pick me. She’s literally on a podcast of men who verbally degrade women and she wanted to chime in to “fit in” and seem cool.
I feel like people forget what opinions are lol. There’s no specific sentence structure that needs to be followed to properly express an opinion. And I’m sure if you think about it enough, you’ve expressed your opinions in a similar way to the audio. Speaking in this way isn’t putting anybody down. “I think (blah” is just as acceptable as “I think (blah) but I’m not speaking for everyone.” It doesn’t need to be specified that it’s your own personal opinion because “I think” and “I believe” convey that just fine.
if she’s against make up, why was she wearing it? 😂 you’re allowed to have that opinion, that’s fine. i disagree since make up actually bettered my skin since i had to prep my skin before and after and that made sure i cared for it a lot. but the way she says it takes away from a woman’s beauty just hits the wrong way, she’s just trying to say that women who wear make up are not as beautiful as ‘natural’ women like her (that still wear make up). It’s not about the opinion. It’s about the wording and behavior. The whole video is just her agreeing with the guys, and backtracking when her opinion isn’t the same as theirs. It’s just a little sad. If you don’t wanna wear make up, that’s okay. It’s preference, opinion. If you think all women should stop wearing make up and that it makes them ugly, while you’re wearing make up, it’s not only hypocritical but it’s rude, you’re allowed to have an opinion without forcing it onto others. You’re allowed to be against make up on yourself. But for others? they aren’t hurting anyone bro.
@@miriamlevy2514 skincare helped your skin, not makeup lol, don’t kid yourself. It hits the wrong way for you, but that’s still her opinion. Unfortunately, not everyone is beautiful to everyone. And there are certain things people do that may cause others to become less attracted to you/view you as less attractive. Just like there is the opposite effect where someone may become more attractive to you because of what they’ve done. We’re talking about this audio right now, but if you want to expand the picture, provide evidence of her “backtracking when her opinion isn’t the same.” Because that just sounds like a discussion amongst individuals. Just because she agrees with them on point A, that means she must agree with them on points B, C and D? Is that how you choose who to talk to? Just an echo chamber of different looking you’s? Now I know you know that “ugly” is not the same as “less attractive” or taking away from one’s natural beauty, as she said. You’re aware of colour theory? Even if you aren’t, don’t act like certain colours, features, clothes don’t hurt some people. Wearing some of these may make you less attractive but they don’t automatically make you ugly. If that’s what you’re getting from that, I’m curious about how you convey your thoughts and view yourself. Since you’ve expanded context before, let’s do this again, but in good faith this time. The point these people try to make is that heavy makeup is unattractive to them. Makeup that fundamentally alters your face to the point where you’re initially unrecognizable upon removal. They dislike that catfish/lie. They’re not not in support of a little mascara and lipstick. Beauty enhancement is fine. Completely changing your face is just manufacturing beauty. Changing your face to make yourself feel better instead of redirecting that energy into bettering yourself/enhancing your personal qualities as opposed to hiding yourself. Someone has literally called their natural self a goblin in these comments. And you want to tell me that that’s not insecurity? Or that that’s an okay insecurity to have? To dislike and trash talk your natural born self? If you search through these comments you’ll also find other women who don’t like makeup/the industry and still wear it. They’re aware of makeup’s marketing and they keep that in mind. They’re not affected by this click because it’s not shocking or news to them. The fact that people are so pressed about her saying the industry capitalizes on women’s insecurities is so wild to me because I thought we knew that that’s exactly what they’re doing. Stating your opinion in a room of women after being asked a question by the host isn’t forcing your opinion on anybody.
I wear make up often and I still don't disagree with what the voice over is saying for some it may not be the case but majority is down to insecurity and these companies know that hence new products to help with aging, covering up pigmentations these are all very normal things that happen to skin lol so her point is still valid especially on the health side we can't even pronounce half the products never mind tell you it's origin but we will still apply to our skin.
@@Jiggleofexistence makeup can warp how you see your natural face and can be bad for your skin as you're constantly adding product and scrubbing it off. let's not act like all the beauty choices we make exist in a vacuum. Again i'm not against it but we have to be honest behind our motivations.
@@esther3396 None of which means ”makeup is bad for women”. Let’s not act like I said anything about beauty choices we make existing in a vacuum, nor was I at any point “dishonest” behind my motivations.
The girl that made the audio probably just wants boys to “think she is not like other girls”. And makeup makes women confident, and it’s a lot of women’s passion. So to who ever said this boo to you!
Here we go again belittling a women for having a opinion. she can say that she doesn’t like make up and a women that doesn’t change her appearance is definitely not a male attention seeking type.
