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In this episode we show you what happens when things just don't go according to plan. With the C5 project well on its way, we decided to tackle the paintjob and let's just say it didn't go as aspected!
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@zkramez
@zkramez 11 месяцев назад
The honesty is what gets me. Even the best painter has issues. Keep being real
@polskanakolach
@polskanakolach 11 месяцев назад
Nice to hear that you do not hide the truth and show that sometimes things goes wrong. ❤
@brianloriaux5837
@brianloriaux5837 10 месяцев назад
Probably from the booth. Mold release.
@zacsdiycars7767
@zacsdiycars7767 10 месяцев назад
I learned a good professional painter (for the most part) can fix whatever in the booth without anyone knowing lol.
@tommytaylor5827
@tommytaylor5827 9 месяцев назад
@@zacsdiycars7767sanding it down and re painting due to the cause of fish eye is a “good example of a good, great painter!” Fish eye can happen to anyone, just like getting sick, cancer, auto accident etc. stick to what ya know
@tomg6284
@tomg6284 4 месяца назад
You need a fresh air system.
@RGD-Audio-Repairs
@RGD-Audio-Repairs 11 месяцев назад
Honestly.. This is the stuff i like to see..... Proves That even the professionals have issues too... 99% of youtube is just videos of everyone's best work.. Not many people show the other side of it... The issues that they face etc....
@mrhow2712
@mrhow2712 11 месяцев назад
this makes me feel better knowing even a master can have a bad paint day. thanks for posting
@Jimtac
@Jimtac 11 месяцев назад
I’ve had this happen when I had too much air being pulled from the booth that I built in my garage. It kept happening no matter what I did until I changed up my fan setup to be positive air pressure inside the booth. Turns out I was pulling in dust through and over the panels/car to my extractor setup. Once I installed a a high static pressure fan and filter to keep positive pressure, that went away. I didn’t think that there was that much dust in my garage, let alone able to get in through the zippers and seals around the filters.
@daviddickinson6346
@daviddickinson6346 10 месяцев назад
Spray booths should always be positive pressure, every booth I have used has a positive pressure to keep contaminants out.
@Jimtac
@Jimtac 10 месяцев назад
⁠Something that I learned the hard way, and have made sure of ever since.
@waygonner
@waygonner 11 месяцев назад
I installed one of those Eastwood filtration setups and had the same problem. Disconnected it and used a different filtering setup that was more janky but the problem went away. I’m planning on disassembling the Eastwood filter to see if I can see what’s wrong. I love their paint products, though.
@troyshepard592
@troyshepard592 10 месяцев назад
You nailed it. New equipment never tested
@zacsdiycars7767
@zacsdiycars7767 10 месяцев назад
They probably use non bodyshop safe stuff in it
@WascallyWabbitt
@WascallyWabbitt 10 месяцев назад
Yep, if yours was brand new, like here, I'm thinking there may be wax or grease contaminants internally.
@aleksandarhalachev5378
@aleksandarhalachev5378 11 месяцев назад
I really like the setup but that blower near the floor will circulate dust particles
@SynergyAVE
@SynergyAVE 11 месяцев назад
Plus it's bringing in crap from the garage with no filtration on it.
@lacquerhead6938
@lacquerhead6938 11 месяцев назад
Yes, the fish eyes kept getting worse at the end, and I think the only thing that was changed was adding the intake fan halfway into the paint job. It's a brand new booth and intake fan, so I think it's burning off the mold release oil from the factory. And the fine fuzzy stuff from a brand new floor of the booth. Just a guess, but I would shut down that new intake and try to spray another test panel like the decklid on the corvette
@justyjust
@justyjust 11 месяцев назад
That’s what I was thinking blowing shit up off the floor
@danc2581
@danc2581 10 месяцев назад
I was thinking the same thing.
@mouseripper4257
@mouseripper4257 10 месяцев назад
The front of the booth is open while spraying at 10:35, air movement could have sucked all kinds of contamination in!
@FrankGallant-h2j
@FrankGallant-h2j 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Brian. Showing the problems and working through them is the best part of the channel and keeps me coming back to learn.
@mrjohhhnnnyyy5797
@mrjohhhnnnyyy5797 11 месяцев назад
You gotta be kidding me! I sprayed my car with single stage today and had similar disaster. Fisheyes all over the place. But, I have plenty of paint still, so I'll try again. Thank you for honesty, seing those perfect results all the time makes me lose hope that I can do it. Your videos, just motivate me to try again and get better.
@robertserr3356
@robertserr3356 11 месяцев назад
Sand your first time down using a water spray bottle and then wipe it down as you go after sanding a panel with 600. Keep the panels as you go wiped clean as you go, then tack and spray another wet finish coat over your panels to act as a final coat. The last finish coat can be a clear coat or a finish coat of color. Less time in the booth, good booth prep for cleanliness, keep the air flow down, better to have a downdraft type of booth, but the less dirt, the less stirring the things, up agitation of the things,tack and spray sand for finish in the booth, will give you a cleaner job overall. All my custom finished paint jobs were, prep, wax released, tack, spray.
@mustangracer5124
@mustangracer5124 11 месяцев назад
Fish eye eliminator and clean it better.
@scottr3141
@scottr3141 10 месяцев назад
Lighter coats always help, for sure the first one.
@zacsdiycars7767
@zacsdiycars7767 10 месяцев назад
Single stage can berry it on the next go around. Like the guy said, 600 and get a nice flat coat.
@Nathan-Kyles
@Nathan-Kyles 11 месяцев назад
Man, I've watched a ton of your videos... but this one, with a very relatable problem, an investigation into what did it coming soon, THAT'S what got me to subscribe. Thanks for what you do, brother!
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety 11 месяцев назад
Welcome!!!
@user-lx9jm1wo3h
@user-lx9jm1wo3h 11 месяцев назад
I worked at a limousine factory years back, and some dude at the other end of the shop which was almost 200 yards away was using some silicone caulking, and the paint shop guys came screaming down to the other end of the shop asking who the F*** was using silicone!?!? That far away, and still got tons of fish eyes in the paint even though it was in a paint booth.
@MarkJones-n
@MarkJones-n 10 месяцев назад
Haha, yep.
@zacsdiycars7767
@zacsdiycars7767 10 месяцев назад
We had a guy start up the diesels he would work on right in front of the booth, smoke would come ripping through lol. The painter and him always yelling at each other even though it's the owners fault
@onomatopoeidia
@onomatopoeidia 10 месяцев назад
Makes sense hey. If someone lit a stick of incense even briefly, everyone in that space would smell it. So easy to contaminate an entire space.
@mightyfinejonboy
@mightyfinejonboy 5 месяцев назад
we had a cleaner who decided that the cleaning chemicals supplied to her were not good enough, so she brought her own silicone-based furniture spray polish in to clean the office. contaminated everybody who was in the offices and it migrated with them to the workshop floor causing thousands of pounds worth of damage to paint jobs in the booths (slight negative pressure) too dumb to accept the reasons that were explained to her why she should have just used the cleaning products supplied to her...
@geo745don
@geo745don 3 месяца назад
I don't understand What's the problem with Silicone Caulking that could affects the paint
@gregwills7710
@gregwills7710 20 дней назад
Honestly Dude... you are an absolutely amazing teacher... most people (and too many teachers) when confronted with something confounding, will tell you everything they know -about something else- in the hopes that you will give up asking in more detail... your willingness to showcase this problem is valuable in a way that simply cannot be overstated. THANK YOU!
@GarageNoise
@GarageNoise 11 месяцев назад
Might try a little fisheye eliminator in you clear. I've use it before even just on the second coat and it allowed the clear to fill the fisheyes enough to save the job. Some of those were pretty deep. I'm sure you probably don't use anything with silicone in that garage but that would do it.
@molnarmalibu4702
@molnarmalibu4702 11 месяцев назад
Hey, love your channel 👍
@GarageNoise
@GarageNoise 11 месяцев назад
@@molnarmalibu4702 thank's brother!
@zacsdiycars7767
@zacsdiycars7767 10 месяцев назад
Never heard of doing it on the 2nd coat. I've always added it if I knew the booth would be an issue. Remote painter sometimes lol
@VacFink
@VacFink 11 месяцев назад
For us starting out, its good to see a do-over scenario because for most of us its a certainty.
@colorbosscustomautobody8140
@colorbosscustomautobody8140 11 месяцев назад
So glad you posted this. I've been painting for 25 years, and I STILL have problems every now and then with contamination and fisheyes. One thing you mentioned that helps is allowing the first layer to kick before spraying on a heavier 2nd and 3rd layer. Sometimes I will shoot and have a PERFECT finish, and my confidence soars. Then I'll turn right around and get fisheyed all to hell. It is frustrating! I take notes on every shoot, when things go wrong and also when they go good. It helps. But I've come to learn that there's always the possibility that you get contamination from somewhere unexpected, and you just have to bite the bullet, sand it, and reshoot!
@davida871
@davida871 11 месяцев назад
I noticed you used static gun on inside of booth. They usually have microsopic powder on them. May I suggest wiping the car with Safeway after using static gun. Particles could gave become airborne and landed of surface before you painted.
@jessehersey
@jessehersey 11 месяцев назад
When you added the 2nd blower right before you cleared. Is it possible it added contaminants into the booth, from whatever is sitting in that cabinet next to the blower?
@jw33
@jw33 11 месяцев назад
An it's picking up raw outside air with not much filtering.
@3800fiero
@3800fiero 2 месяца назад
I also highly suspect the 2nd blower being the main source of contamination.
@erikturner8687
@erikturner8687 10 месяцев назад
Easy test to see if you have contaminated air if to put your blowgun on and blow onto a mirror for a good 5 mins. If it fogs, or leaves an oily residue, you have your fisheyes answer. Also, tack before using the anti static gun. Rubbing the tack rag on the surface creates static! Keep the videos going brother! Subbed!
@johnwoolfrey5093
@johnwoolfrey5093 11 месяцев назад
I think if you're used to a finely tuned professional setup - a perfected system of doing it - you forget the system is avoiding certain problems. When you go DIY at home you realize the struggle for good results is real.
@karlavillajulca9683
@karlavillajulca9683 11 месяцев назад
how nice to see you keeping it real ! 💙💙💙love your work
@Scott_Meyer72
@Scott_Meyer72 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing this video Brian. This is exactly what happened to me with our F5 818 project I DM’d you about recently and you gave me some good ideas to recover from. All the best, Scott in Palm Harbor, FL
@theenglishtrucker1849
@theenglishtrucker1849 11 месяцев назад
I know it sucks for you as you have to do it again, but I really do appreciate seeing how you fix these things. I've re painted a few panels using spray cans and I gave it 3 coats but I dont think each coats was thick enough. When you do a first coat, on camera it looks finished lol. Im going to do my rear wing again and put LOTS of paint on. I've sanded and buffed and made it look shiny but its not right and I know I can do it better just from watching you. So thanks Brian, ❤❤ From the UK👍
@kevinwells768
@kevinwells768 11 месяцев назад
Got to love the sheer size of these US garages! No way that will fit in my so called double garage.
@daedalus_20v
@daedalus_20v 11 месяцев назад
@@kevinwells768 I'm American, and this is larger than 99% of the home garages I've ever seen (short of a $1M home or something). A typical 2-car garage in America will range between approx. 6x6 - 7x7 meters.
@kevinwells768
@kevinwells768 11 месяцев назад
@@daedalus_20v makes me feel slightly less impoverished!!!
@timhudson8958
@timhudson8958 4 месяца назад
I spent a year working through constant issues arising on my painted surfaces but I finally got it figured out and haven’t had any problems now for months. First up was replacing y 20 year old 80 gallon with a new one then 20 ‘ of line up and down the wall with drains then two water oil separators then then two filters all done with 1” ID pipes including filters. All of my system is grounded .
@markhurayt8978
@markhurayt8978 11 месяцев назад
Hey Brian. Been following you for a long time and you have really helped me out in the past. But I think this came from the plastic on the spray booth walls etc. Can be release agent or powder from the manufacturing process or shipping contaminants.
@grand73am
@grand73am 11 месяцев назад
I was thinking the same.
@beemabuildbodystylingrepai1934
@beemabuildbodystylingrepai1934 11 месяцев назад
Hey Brian great video these things happen to the best of us 😊 I know you will sort it out and gives the diy guys more hope that professionals have issues too 👍👍👍
@Diehlsville
@Diehlsville 10 месяцев назад
Back in the day I use to get those quiet often. I finally figured out I was applying way too much clear, especially on the first coat trying to make it super slick.
@jrm1992jrm1
@jrm1992jrm1 9 месяцев назад
I noticed on the first pass he just dumping clear. That's definitely where the fish eyes came from.
@donsmanufactory
@donsmanufactory 11 месяцев назад
Hello Brian, I had a some of those in my paint job. Only showed up in the last coat of clear so they are not too deep. Most cleaned up in the cut and buff but there are a few that will need some attention. No one notices them unless I point them out. Generally the car looks pretty good. Since I had to re-shoot because the metallic did not lay right the first time, I think I will live with the result. It ain't perfect that's for sure. My air system consisted of two smaller air compressors with extra tankage feeding a filter separator I had sitting in a bucket of cold water outside my garage. It seemed to work ok, I drained a bunch of water out of the system after each use.
@careykuhn9174
@careykuhn9174 11 месяцев назад
If the few bother you too much you can dab a drop of clear in the fisheye and then sand it and buff. Totally gone at that point.
@donthompson2188
@donthompson2188 11 месяцев назад
@@careykuhn9174- Thanks, gonna try that.
@shawns57garage
@shawns57garage 11 месяцев назад
Dang it !! You’ll get it corrected !! After all it’s just paint 🎨!! You sure helped me get my base clear job corrected last month and I appreciate it pal ! 👍👌
@702BattleBorn
@702BattleBorn 11 месяцев назад
Yo PS. Everyone likes to show off their successes. It takes real character to show off their failures. Thanks for showing your results and how you will fix them for the DIYers. Keep up the strong work Brian. Have a pleasant day Cheers.
@zacsdiycars7767
@zacsdiycars7767 10 месяцев назад
I screw up daily lol. But in the end things come out nice
@jasonhilux2620
@jasonhilux2620 11 месяцев назад
Mate I feel your pain. The same thing happened to us when we painted my son's hilux. We found that the grease and wax remover had not dried out properly in some areas nor cleaned properly. So we wiped air gently blow air across the panel. This worked perfectly
@ukraine244
@ukraine244 11 месяцев назад
Fish eyes. That could be being caused by a DOZEN different things! Seems to me though that if it was a contaminated panel it would have seen something in the base. That is unless something got into the air AFTER that which leads me to believe that it had something to do with your extra blower you added to keep the floor down (is it brand new?). I cannot tell you how many times I have had weird shit like that happen over the years painting professionally and for myself.
@zacsdiycars7767
@zacsdiycars7767 10 месяцев назад
Man I've had many times in my career the base looks great but the clear freaks.
@sstocker31
@sstocker31 11 месяцев назад
Wow...your honesty is so refreshing, I wish others on the tube would show their mistakes as well. Your right though, it's only paint....sand it and do it again..!👍
@Wooter-dr5ts
@Wooter-dr5ts 11 месяцев назад
I would crater check a few things before the respray.make some 4x12 test panels.. prep panels really well clean panels really well. Spray a coat of clear on one. I would spray it with a different clear coat than used on the car.Observe panel for craters. if clean you eliminate the compressor/drier/air hose as a possible contamination source. If blown out it’s more than likely from the compressed air delivery system somewhere. spray another panel with clear and soon as coated blow air on the panel from your intake blower that u turned on late in the process and observe for craters. It would be wise to test some things before the respray.
@sunset1300
@sunset1300 11 месяцев назад
I painted a Porsche shell in my garage yesterday. No spray booth, no air warmer just a calm day, wet floor and PPG DBC base coat and Upol 2882 clear. Little orange peel but no runs, very little dirt. Sand and buff today.
@OMEGATECH
@OMEGATECH 11 месяцев назад
WoW!! I just caught this video and you're right if it's not filtration then it must be surface related, and you've already shown your filtration setup which is totally excellent!! can't wait to see the follow-up video👍
@sigvision4189
@sigvision4189 11 месяцев назад
For any home job I recommend the whirlwind air filters at the base of the gun. Compressors in a garage suck all kinds of dust and moisture in. Almost impossible to get all of it out so those gems are last line of defense.
@edheadgrfx
@edheadgrfx 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for your honesty! I'm a 30year painter and this happens to me in a full 75k booth. And the can't paint the entire car in a blow up booth. Thanks again.
@justinchristiano7928
@justinchristiano7928 11 месяцев назад
I'm no pro, but I am in Southwest Florida. I have a trick little system. 60 Gallon 2 stage compressor. I take a 50 ft hose circular coiled up in a 30" pail. When I paint I fill the pail with ice (my chiller). Then I continue it to a Devilbiss water separator. Because its cool air, it is not steam (from the compressor) and it works well. Then I run the air line 3/8" to a Motor guard (toilet paper type) filter to remove anything that might have gotten past the water separator, plus any oils or contaminants. Finally, a Devilbiss filter at the gun. I have NEVER had a problem since I did this, even in South Florida, with 99% humidity.
@jimbrown3720
@jimbrown3720 11 месяцев назад
Yeah his system is probably the problem the lines look good but the chiller and small compressor not good after his lines a desiccant filter and a motor guard filter would be better and more in line with a diy garage
@johnwoolfrey5093
@johnwoolfrey5093 11 месяцев назад
Those fish eyes look like moisture. I use the 3M full face mask when clearing and I've had condensation drip from the face nose area before from breath. I also use a dedicated hose for painting that I never connect to a non filtered non dried air source. I also started using an in-line air filter on the hose at the gun, just to be sure there's no dirt or moisture coming out of the dessicant filter on the wall. I'd also spray down that floor with water using a garden chemical sprayer...
@slav_1
@slav_1 11 месяцев назад
Brian, love that you're doing these. I'm prepping to do my C4 inspired by you. Can you tell us why you decided not to use a sealer in this case and went straight to base coat?
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety 11 месяцев назад
To make it more DIY friendly
@jasonmyers3358
@jasonmyers3358 11 месяцев назад
Awesome Video! I battle issues like that all the time too! I try to do everything perfect to the tee, but a issue always comes up! I've even called in paint reps to inspect! I have even had paint reps there to watch my prep and painting! Some times its unexplainable! Thank you for making me feel its not just me!
@carsmoremore
@carsmoremore 11 месяцев назад
Yup had that happened to me as well I found out bye using 1k or 2k sealer before spraying works for me every time I known more products, but that seems to work for me.maybe not for everyone 😎
@mmddmm553
@mmddmm553 10 месяцев назад
Everyone has a crap day , honestly makes me like your channel even more .just shows you even the teacher runs into issues. Thanks again. 👍🏻
@hhova29
@hhova29 11 месяцев назад
Good honest video. I appreciate these videos. I purchased a little project hooptee and planed to respray some of the panels due to clear coat peeling. I plan to do it with spray cans because I don’t have a booth nor a big garage where it will fit with my other vehicles. I did a few touch ups after sanding, but it came out a big orange because I ran out of paint. Can I sand down the clear coat on my project and re spray base coat on the panel I recently did and primed initially?
@mikeywilz
@mikeywilz 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate the honesty. I’m sure you will figure out where it came from and make it really nice before it’s all done.
@joelnowland2196
@joelnowland2196 11 месяцев назад
The contamination is probably little micro particles or perhaps outgassing from the plastic the paint booth is made from. I would not be surprised if silicone is one of the ingredients in the plastic. It also looks a lot like the silicone contamination we had in our lacquer finish at an antique restoration shop I worked where someone had used silicone spray on the table saw top as a lube. For years that contamination kept showing up.
@catsandfurious525
@catsandfurious525 11 месяцев назад
maybe you have some products in the garage who lead to this situation (solvent or other), but great color and great installation ....waiting for the second part. thanks
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety 11 месяцев назад
Great suggestion!
@finnyboy1718
@finnyboy1718 10 месяцев назад
Hey mate I'm pretty sure I know what this is, hope I can shed some light on it. I've been painter for 20yrs, and learnt this the hard way. If it painted fine the whole process, and next day or few hrs later fish eyed or silicon or whatever we want to call it, this can occur when the environment has bad air flow ventilation, and the solvents are slowly coming out of the job then fall back onto the surface while it's still soft. It can create those reverse craters. I did some immaculate jobs I didn't want to bake in a proper booth, I finished clearing, shut the booth down, and returned the next day to find this same result. It was because I left the booth closed up and no air flow. On a minor scale, a smaller hazing can occur if you cover a respray up you painted and put in the workshop and covered in plastic to protect it, EVEN AFTER ITS BAKED. All the best mate keep up the good work 👏
@distinctridesbydavy
@distinctridesbydavy 11 месяцев назад
Beautiful break down on how to fix that! I forget you teach physical education to kids. It's really easy to learn from your videos.
@setouttowonder9923
@setouttowonder9923 11 месяцев назад
My suggestions... the new air supply blowing near the floor brought up some dirt, or debris from inside the booth structure. Are the booth supply fans filtered?
@joshuanickoloff2997
@joshuanickoloff2997 11 месяцев назад
I am the drunkest I’ve ever been off Jack Daniel’s and your video is helping me stay awake to sober up before I sleep so I don’t throw up, thank you
@davidhynes5592
@davidhynes5592 3 месяца назад
😂😂
@CouchMan88
@CouchMan88 Месяц назад
The fact you typed a legible comment in that condition is impressive
@DavidRoman-ps8kv
@DavidRoman-ps8kv 26 дней назад
😂wtf
@donproctor4480
@donproctor4480 11 месяцев назад
Other then the fish eyes it looks good. Also, a bad batch of clear or hardener can cause fish eyes, and before you go thru the trouble of repainting it, do some test panels, use that clear and then maybe you cans get a lil bit from work, if both fish eye then there’s and issue with the spray environment, or equipment, if the East wood clear fisheyes then it’s a product issue. Also, devilbiss make a floor spray that helps with keeping dirt on the floor.
@bosshawg7427
@bosshawg7427 11 месяцев назад
The usual risks you take when painting at home. I paint in a portable carport converted into a booth. Some trash is expected and the best I hope for is to bury it in the clear enough to not be visible under normal circumstances. Most of the time it works out fine with a bit of buffing. Also, it's important to use low overspray guns especially on clear.... LPH400 is the best contender for this yet.
@nooraldeenjumhour2847
@nooraldeenjumhour2847 11 месяцев назад
I like your videos cause you not hide the truth and you show that sometimes the work went wrong…. You are the best brian ❤️
@andyb7754
@andyb7754 11 месяцев назад
Who was spraying silicon in front of the air intake? LOL! It's a shame because that's a beautiful blue color. I love watcking the videos but the only concern of mine is when you (or the other guys) rub their bare hands on the body and the way you remove wax and grease remover. I'm 71 and was always taught to wipe off in one direction and keep turning the towel to not contaminate the paint (replace towel after all sides are used).Maybe the new air device used to circluate the air had some type of manufactures assembly lube in. Good luck and don't give up. Thank you for yyour videos.
@bryanhenderson8413
@bryanhenderson8413 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the honesty Brian on real life obstacles. Great video, can't wait on the next one!
@MarioGarcia-qs2js
@MarioGarcia-qs2js 11 месяцев назад
Man Brian I’ve been painting for 25 years and I respect you so much more now that you can say even us pros run in to problems. Stay tru bro and keep up the videos. And I would just sand down 600 wet bed it and we’re ever burned blend and advise cuz I also use an inflatable booth at home use a cap full of fish eye eliminator. Or smoothie.
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety 11 месяцев назад
Man thank you for the love ❤
@xman577
@xman577 11 месяцев назад
I checked all the filters and water traps. And you never know when your Compressor might start to go down
@gregfrench2173
@gregfrench2173 11 месяцев назад
This is the kind of video I need to see... my stuff rarely goes as planned so how to fix your oopses is very valuable. Thanks
@jjamanda
@jjamanda 11 месяцев назад
Super video thanks for your honesty and showing us your issues looking forward to the solution to the issues from across the pond
@blizsgarage8487
@blizsgarage8487 11 месяцев назад
That sucks dude. I know all about it. I do painting and hydrodipping and bought an inflatable booth. It works okay with exhaust and intake fans, but trying to get good paint jobs out of it. The inflatable booths are a couple time use, and then throw away has been my experience.
@markd6777
@markd6777 11 месяцев назад
Had a similar issue with another Vette but just the rear clip. I put it down to not having a booth of any kind. I painted it in my shop with lots of cross flow venting and continuous wetting of the floor but that car was a nightmare! I think I sanded and re-painted that clip four times over three days...what a nightmare! Love your vids' and your insights. I've gone back to your videos far more times than I care to admit, you're a great source of knowledge. Keep it up man. I'm looking forward to seeing your fix on this one and your final thoughts on your blow-up booth.
@renecenteno5921
@renecenteno5921 11 месяцев назад
Brian, thanks for keeping it real . I really thought these things didn’t happen to you buddy, I’m glad that you will now teach us how to solve that problem.
@jw33
@jw33 11 месяцев назад
Great video. Hate that this happens, but this really shows that it can happen to anyone. Interested to see if you can figure out the issue and explain it to us in the next video....
@BarryForrester-uk7bj
@BarryForrester-uk7bj 10 месяцев назад
A very nice and informative video, I applaud the quality and detail contained! Painter noted he was using a 4 to 1 high glamor clear coat….a high solid product Noticing that the “fish eyes are on the top of flat surfaces , I would be more inclined to think that the defects are “ solvent pops” from spray clear coat to heavy. remember A flat vertical surface retains 50% more sprayed material that a vertical panel. Using similar product in our both, we must spray a 4-1-1.5 reduced mixture of clear and a 50 to 75% wet initial clear coat, allow to dry to a light touch, than apply gloss coats. This allows solvents to vapor out before being captured by a surface skin coat, only to be released by the following wetter coats allowing trapped solvent to migrate up and out leaving the crater.
@wreckum56
@wreckum56 11 месяцев назад
I think I would take another panel of something into the booth and spray it before I would redo the corvette to see if the same thing happens just to rule out all the accessories hooked up to the system. Who knows it could even be the booth itself probably not but weird things happen when your applying paint,and that’s some dollars down the tubes. Who knows it could even be something coming from the air being blown in for the exhaust.
@Dopboyfreshh
@Dopboyfreshh 10 месяцев назад
Brian I had the exact same issue, it's the paint booth, the exhaust fan does not suck the air out effectively and if you try to use a stronger fan the booth begins to cave in
@jimprovax6846
@jimprovax6846 11 месяцев назад
Brian I’m glad you mentioned the Kandy Man. Another great for real dude as well as yourself. I’m sure you’ll figure out the fisheye issue. But again these are real problems. Really enjoy both of the channels.
@andywright2606
@andywright2606 11 месяцев назад
Sorry to see your disaster guys but as you say it happens, (welcome to our world- garage spray booth). I think it's the second blower you installed to stop the floor from lifting. I might be wrong but it didn't look like it had any sort of filter system on it. Good luck with the redo, I look forward to seeing that video. 👍
@davidz1681
@davidz1681 11 месяцев назад
That's why I love your videos. You show us the good and bad. Respect bro.
@swgaskell
@swgaskell 11 месяцев назад
I had the same issue here with a single stage paint and the Eastwood compressor. Lots of fish-eyes!! I installed an oil separator and moisture separator and the situation was much improved but not perfect. I didn't think about the same hose being contaminated from using it prior to installing the oil/water separator! I bought a brand new hose (which I now use only for painting) and now I'm getting no contamination at all. Problems now are down to lack of skill and needing more practice 🙂
@coolbreezelb5023
@coolbreezelb5023 10 месяцев назад
Thabk you for always keeping it honest with these videos. Always learning.
@mustangracer5124
@mustangracer5124 11 месяцев назад
I always heated my paint good and hot and put sm. nuts in the tub to keep the paint mixed and spray very light coats of metallic in a cross pattern so everything lays out better.
@abisaimata2068
@abisaimata2068 11 месяцев назад
This guys is humble and one of the greatest teachers just by watching
@scoobydoo885
@scoobydoo885 11 месяцев назад
Thanks four the video. Glad to see your man enough to show the accedents. It sucks to sand of the clear and base coats. Had that happen a week ago. sanding away money.
@aaronfox5808
@aaronfox5808 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing , it helps everyone see what can happen even to the best out there.
@ClintsStreetMachines
@ClintsStreetMachines 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing, we learn the most from the setbacks. That color is gorgeous.
@ethan....
@ethan.... 10 месяцев назад
for the peeps at home. Do the ole moonshine trick with the air hose. Grab a 5 gallon bucket, fill it with ice water. coil your airhose in that bucket. Wham, air line refrigerator/condenser on the cheap.
@nealrehm6900
@nealrehm6900 10 месяцев назад
Back in the day, I used to work at an automotive collision shop. We started the day buffing out small lacquer, repair jobs. Then it’s coffee break time, do some masking on other jobs that need primer coats. As the day goes on, you finally get into doing some more spot painting like hoods fenders doors you name it. Most of it is fast drying acrylic, lacquer. One job I’ll never forget it’s a deep red Cadillac that hit a deer so a new hood fender and blending into a door. The primer went on. No problem sanding no problem back then we mostly took it to 360. I mixed up the paint from Dupont , the proper color code, and put the first and second coat on. By the second coat, I was sure I was seeing some Fisheyes. Oh S##T!!! I remember masking off the windshield and windshield post and a few other items, and I was having trouble with the 3M masking tape sticking. I tried rubbing it with prepsol but still had lots of trouble. I called my head painter over to look to see what he thought and he said G Neal that’s too bad. Just add another really wet thick coat and see what happens. I wound up painting that vehicle another three times! This was about a year and a half or so after armoral hit the store shelves! Load it up and sand it down.
@jfront1962
@jfront1962 11 месяцев назад
Did the car have any Armour All or engine dressing on or in the interior or tires? I have seen that happen from all of those and just from someone having Armour All on them from sitting in a different car then walking near when spraying.
@gene2200
@gene2200 10 месяцев назад
28 yrs ago spayed my restoed 68 Cougar in my 2 bay old Gulf station garage, took 2 panels out of garage door and put furnace filters in. Put a piece of plywood in rear door cut it out for a Bigass squirrel cage and wetted the floors down. Did use dedicated 1/2 line for gun and similar filter, lines ran under the floor, kept it cool. Turned out great, didn't need to buff it or... I'm guilty of over thinking things all the time but sometimes simpler can be better. It still looks great
@TheBnass
@TheBnass 11 месяцев назад
If this happened to me I'd be pretty upset. I'm very impressed with Brian's positive attitude no matter what - leaves no doubt it'll be done right in the end! I just finished painting my first panel (a C4 targa top) this week thanks to being encouraged from watching Brian's other videos and I'm now a big fan!
@careykuhn9174
@careykuhn9174 11 месяцев назад
Ive worked in a home booth. About every week I run a quart of alcohol thru the entire air system to clean my air supply tubing and hoses. Works amazing to keep everything clean.
@ColeAviation
@ColeAviation 7 месяцев назад
Not sure what you use to clean with before paint but I always use spray way window cleaner and paper towels to clean before painting and never have problems with fish eyes. Works better than other paint cleaners and I’ve never had a reaction with it.
@mypanicbutton9194
@mypanicbutton9194 11 месяцев назад
Greatly appreciate your candor!
@Motocue912
@Motocue912 11 месяцев назад
I would clear a couple panels in their with the same clear same everything. Do some testing!
@EdgasketGarage
@EdgasketGarage 11 месяцев назад
Excited to watch you save it Brian!
@MichaelBrown-ho5wc
@MichaelBrown-ho5wc 11 месяцев назад
I’ve had this issue with 4:1 glamour clear many times. I’ve discovered that if I let the base dry overnight it eliminates almost all solvent pop and fish eye issues
@billlear5607
@billlear5607 11 месяцев назад
I'm 57 years old and have always wanted to learn to paint. With the price of paint its kind of scary to think about all of the mistakes to be made. With that being said. And I know the better the paint the better the results but is there a cheaper paint you would recommend for a beginner to learn with. Love all your videos.
@northwestoff-roadopportuni7176
@northwestoff-roadopportuni7176 10 месяцев назад
I had the same problem with my inflatable booth. I repainted the truck in my shop without it and wow it turned out awesome!
@jboyfpv4268
@jboyfpv4268 11 месяцев назад
That is the exact same thing happen to me. A friend let me borrow inflatable booth which is a smaller size booth than your booth. I was going to paint both fenders one day then front bumper cover another day then hood on another day. Base coat came out flawless on both fenders as well as first coat of clear. When applying 2nd coat of clear it looked ok at first, then all these craters started to appear. Lucky I did not proceed with 2nd coat of clear on other fender. They looked exactly like what you showed, except a lot more. This booth does not have elephant trunk. One tube on top blows filtered in and overspray is pushed out side filters. Got so much overspray from clearing, I could barley see. I think Im going to leave one end unzipped to get the overspray out faster.. Still not sure why this happened. I have painted motorcycle parts using same paint and clear on back patio without booth and other than a little dust nibs, which sand and buff fixed, I have never seen this before. I'm about as lost as a fart in a whirlwind on this. Look forward to your next video on this.
@Jdpr07
@Jdpr07 11 месяцев назад
Gotta put fisheye eliminator for next time
@sinistan1002
@sinistan1002 11 месяцев назад
i wanted to get one of those inflatable booths i figured it would be better than outside and the hassle of wetting the area down or waiting for non windy day but after seeing the cost involved even a small one with all the extra ventilation ads up really quick then if something like that happened i would probably lose it after all the prep work
@denischkhaylo5989
@denischkhaylo5989 11 месяцев назад
Hello, I got exactly same problem with a nice SATA 3 stage filter just after installation, a lot of fish eyes. I was thinking first something wrong with a cleaners or my chemicals but second time I add inline little filter before spray gun and everything got smooth. I think in the new equipment still have a little amount of the oil. This is just my opinion.
@bmodelflyer1946
@bmodelflyer1946 11 месяцев назад
Adding the second blower is probably the cause of the contamination, it’s literally blowing shop air into the booth, even with a filter contaminates will come through.
@DanielMartinez-tg6ix
@DanielMartinez-tg6ix 11 месяцев назад
maybe try a test panel before respraying the corvette again. Try a small fender maybe
@jus1975
@jus1975 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate the review of the booth.. although it hurt my feelings. I was counting on using one for my first build. I guess a self made with plenty of fans will have to do
@alexextreme3026
@alexextreme3026 11 месяцев назад
Como as tubulações são novas pode ter algum contaminante nos tubos algum desmoldante usado em sua fabricação ou se soltou vejo diversas válvulas metálicas elas contém silicones em suas esferas, conectores rápidos tem silicones no mecanismo .
@kbrasshc
@kbrasshc 10 месяцев назад
Brain great video, it really helps everyone to show even the pros encounter uncontrollable mishaps.
@thomaskappauf7345
@thomaskappauf7345 11 месяцев назад
Universal fisheye eliminator might have helped in the last coat, it's not the best thing in the world to do, but it's better than doing it twice
@jerryvikla3925
@jerryvikla3925 11 месяцев назад
I used to use fish eye eliminator on every job as an insurance policy but when I learned that it is 100% silicone I stopped. Subsequent garages have not been exposed to it and I don't seem to have the problem anymore. I'm also a wax and grease remover fanatic now.
@SuperROMAN83
@SuperROMAN83 10 месяцев назад
Hey Brian I have exactly the same problem just a bigger booth 16x32(or so)with extra room and three fans. Two to keep it up and one to push air inside. So what I figured out was the exhaust filters got clogged and all the overspray was slowly circulating inside and not much was getting out. While in the air it was passing next to stitching holes that are leaking air inside of the booth. Next to each bigger hole I found dried overspray buildup of clear coat (sort of icicles were forming). Once I was done with 28oz and went out to refill each time I came back there was more and more contamination. My booth has joints of support tubes in the center ceiling and that’s where I found the most contamination right there underneath the joints. While I was going in and out the dried overspray would fall down. Now I checked and every surface that is more horizontal the more it was contaminated the worse was roof hood and trunk lid. The best were sides that are vertical and doors that bend under the car zero contamination there. I used one elephant ear. I ordered one more and will get rid off black filters on the side of the paint booth cause they clog up very fast with paint and when I get to clear it’s a game over. Also I’ll stretch a sheet of plastic above the car to prevent any from falling down. I hope that will solve my problem.
@emelgmel9111
@emelgmel9111 11 месяцев назад
Fish eye like this could be from the contamination from the air. Happened to me when just finished final clear coat and fans were working and sucked the diesel smoke from the truck that my buddy wanted to move few feet and that ruined my paint job. Had to resend it completely.
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