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Second Channel for a lot more in depth caving videos!
/ @evendarker
Check out my friends caving channel!
/ @cravingcaving
We have a Patreon! Help send Jacob to college! All proceeds will be used to help send Jacob to university. / cavemanhikes
*This video is only for entertainment purposes. Do not attempt any of the actions portrayed by Caveman Hikes. If you rely on information given in the video, you assume the responsibility for the results.
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Most of the gear we use is generic and interchangeable.
This is the gear we like and wouldn't trade.
Audio Glasses
lemunaglasses.com/
*I have hearing problems and this company sent us these as a courtesy and have been very helpful. If you like listening to music or if you have a "hum in the drum" like me, this is a cool way to wear glasses or sunglasses while listening to music without headphones.
Amazon listed gear
Fenix TK35UE V2.0 (TK35) 5000 lumens Tactical Flashlight with Two High Capacity Batteries and a USB Charger a.co/d/bpalzYK
(Good for starting fires too!)
IMALENT MS12 Mini Powerful Flashlight 65000 Lumens, 12 CREE XHP 70.2 LEDs, Beam Distance 1036 Meters, Suitable for Searching and Rescue (Cold White Light) a.co/d/i00ILcU
Fenix HP30R v2.0 Black 3000 Lumen Heavy-Duty Rechargeable Headlamp with Spotlight & Floodlight, Detachable Battery Pack and LumenTac Organizer a.co/d/0cjgtxO
Headlamps (recommended) www.amazon.com/dp/B084HM37CR/...
Usually cheaper alternative headlamp
(excellent but heavy) www.amazon.com/dp/B081XZWMN8?...
The big torch flashlight we use most
(recommended, but expensive)
Fenix LR40R 12000 Lumen 845 Yards... www.amazon.com/dp/B07TK3WLQV?...
Even brighter, even more expensive.
IMALENT MS12 Mini Powerful Flashlight 65000 Lumens, 12 CREE XHP 70.2 LEDs, Beam Distance 1036 Meters, Suitable for Searching and Rescue (Cold White Light) a.co/d/i00ILcU
(This is a little monster, be careful)
Batteries (cheap source of decent 18650 rechargeable batteries)
Tactical Flashlight,Super Bright... www.amazon.com/dp/B07WNWFQDW?...
Battery source again
Super Bright 2000 Lumen 18650... www.amazon.com/dp/B07SQLRMQH?...

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@renessaandrews8009 Год назад

It is not my intention to peek into your personal life, but how do your friends and family think about you and your soon climbing through these crazy caves?? I would get the craziest reactions from all of my peers! Keep up the good work guys, love watching these videos, stay safe as well!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

I've only got crazy reactions on the internet. It never even occurred to us that this should insight any kind of reaction. It was a shock to us that people wanted to watch us crawl around in the dark, cold, dirt. I mean, the kid is not even my son! We're just out here having a good time.

@soylentlyso3219 Год назад

Were you by yourself?! What happens if something goes wrong? How do you get help? Also, do you only have one light? What would you do if it failed/you lost it whilst in the cave?

@DannyDirtyDrawz Год назад

@@soylentlyso3219 Don't ask that type off questions. I asked once and he replied like a a$$hole.

@Tina37212 11 месяцев назад

@@DannyDirtyDrawz LOL! I believe it.

@user-nd5mm8oy6i 10 месяцев назад

Il faut deq gens comme ça qui font avancer les choses . Avant d'avoir des parachute avion... efficace il a falut faire des tests

@CalvinHikes Год назад

We're still getting out and about. Thanks for your continued patience! Lots of interesting adventures to come.

@tabbs1664 Год назад

OMG I just had a continuous panic attack watching you 😳 I'd love to conquer my fears but if I'm like this watching you through a screen in my own home then I HAVE NO HOPE!! THANK YOU for the virtual heart attack & glad you made it out alive!! Scuffed but alive 😅 🤣

@THIRTEENTH13TH Год назад

Looking forward to it mate! Love the videos, not going to stop loving them

@yonatron5684 Год назад

Love your channel bro

@thebakerproject4290 Год назад

love these videos!

@ridgeevan7299 Год назад

You people are bravest of the brave ! 👊 just be careful and inform others where you people going, for the love of life !

@Tacoburrito20 Год назад

This channel deserves 50 million subs for what they do. They make cave exploring just a bit harder by getting footage for us and still staying positive when they're in trouble. They record and show us things that most people don't experience. Mad respect for them

@justinkellenter7735 Год назад

100 %

@danwesten2771 Год назад

Agreed brother agreed 👍

@mfbabyyyyyy Год назад

💯

@Silent_Shadow Год назад

No click bait, no hyper active nutty inexperienced kids. I actually learn from these guys!

@wynterlittel1552 Год назад

I agree

@billgangsta539 Год назад

Your ability to stay calm is impressive. Huge respect.

@k7l3rworkman97 Год назад

Right? My anxiety levels fluctuate so much when I watch these lol

@TheSadilek Год назад

Watching as a cave diver here and still get chills from the squeezes you go through. Respect.

@Silent_Shadow Год назад

And when he gets caught up he stays so calm and figures it out. And you sir...CAVE DIVING!?! Terrifying! Maximum Respect💯

@-xirx- 2 месяца назад

You're music selection really added to the atmosphere. I really cannot imagine being these places you have been, I've always had acute claustrophobia and the thought of being underground is petrifying to me

@MasDouc 22 дня назад

These videos are amazing, I love your insight on different topics as you're wedging yourself through ancient rock and stone. Squeezing your body through places most people never would and in this quet solitude having a conversation with us like were pals who stopped over your house for a drink. Thanks for making these vids.

@chrisearnest1659 Год назад

This crawl felt different … in a very spiritually emotional way . Truly enjoy not just the exploring but the wisdom you share . Even in times of weakness we can find strength .

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you so much. Very nice words. I like the idea that you can see below the surface of what's in your direct field of vision.

@iansmith321 Год назад

@@CalvinHikes I started watching your channel throughout lockdown. Although caving intriguing but you send my anxiety through the roof lol I'd never ever do this but I'll definitely continue to watch your channel. Also have you and Jacob thought about traveling the world to explore caves?

@CalvinHikes Год назад

@@iansmith321 I feel like the lockdowns really boosted our channel. I travel the world often but Jacob is not my child so that makes that difficult. It's also expensive. It's also not my primary job. So I have plenty of obligations which keep me home. But I have done some International caving and there's a few videos of that. Nothing crazy yet though. We'll get to it.

@RaccoonNation 5 месяцев назад

@@CalvinHikesyour channel & seeing Jacob’s confidence grow through your lessons & belief in his ability have taught me so much about the human experience ! Massive thank you 🙏🏽 🦝🙌🏽⚔️

@beyedoc Год назад

Wow, that twilight room is beautiful!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

It was fantastic in the morning! They're really pretty when they fill with ice and snow but then it's also hard to get to the caves.

@humzdon4life Год назад

@@CalvinHikes I'm going to going in on my one

@thrifty2424 Год назад

I am way too claustrophobic to even attempt this kudos to you man. My panic would immediately get me stuck. And to me being stuck underground liked that I'd rather be cut up in pieces

@grubkin5251 Год назад

Man this guys personality is just amazing

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you!

@joshrussell9460 Год назад

You guys get the best footage , it's incredible. It's like watching an action movie. I'm on the edge of my seat , and can't look away. I had very bad claustrophobia, however from watching these videos, I have felt way less claustrophobic in all situations now. It's quite amazing. You guys staying cool. Calm ,and collected has just showed me how to better handle these situations . So Thanks very much for sharing

@CalvinHikes Год назад

That's high praise! Is the video and editing is certainly the harder portion of the work.

@clayp9725 Год назад

I love this channel so much. Calvin, you are an absolute inspiration to me in my life. I look forward to seeing your videos, and check for them daily. I would love nothing more than a conversation with you about your experiences while caving. Regardless, thank you for the amazing content and life lessons. Looking forward to the next video!

@ItsmehTubeGames Год назад

This channel is so underrated for what they do! I personally love the channel

@lonestarindie Год назад

Your videos absolutely terrify me, I can’t get enough of them 🤠

@austingraham3403 Год назад

Can't get over how calm you always are going through those tight squeezes. Will be looking forward to your upcoming videos !

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you! Calmness is our chief export. Our whole program is about peace and calm. The caving is incidental. Eventually we'll convince everyone of this truth!

@SiymPai Год назад

Hey Caveman Hikes! I want to say I appreciate your work and knowledgeable narration. I have claustrophobia, but the way this channel presents cave exploring has made me feel comfortable. Never thought that was imaginable, so thank you! Also, there's something about you guys that feels like childhood. The wonder and exploring feels like the experience I crave. I appreciate you guys. Best exploring to you both!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

So nice of you to say. Very kind words, thank you. "Unless you become as little children..."

@SiymPai Год назад

@@CalvinHikes ha, so true! Thanks for the reply!! Maybe one day I can venture into a cave 😀 by walking in it! Baby steps

@cc_1983 Год назад

Great to see some new videos out. You guys are so brave and skilled. Keep it up! I could never do this but I love watching it. The whole video is so well put together. Informative and educational, atmospheric, story filled. Bravo!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Wow thank you so much

@fallynharding6868 Год назад

I’m sorry you got hurt glad you’re ok. You’re the BRAVEST MOST FEARLESS Man I’m soooo glad you film what you do otherwise I’d never see caves in the way you do it❤️✌🏽

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you so much.

@RezaQin Год назад

Wow, almost 250k subs. I remember when you guys barely had 5k. Ya'll are still super crazy to do this!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

It feels the same having 250K as it did having 250 subs. Except more money.

@katyjay9881 Год назад

Amazing job guys, keep the videos coming. With love from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@grumpyoldwizard Год назад

I get anxious just watching you. Thanks for all the hard work.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

@tannermonaghan694 Год назад

Love watching your videos, not only do we get to watch you squeeze through caves but you have good insight and lots of wisdom to share as well! Your crazy lol in a good way

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you so much!

@geneo3654 Год назад

The sun hitting the different greens and yellows is awesome, your red hoody is great contrast also, great picture !

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Always the red hoodie! Thank you. It really is a pretty entrance.

@odplusbread Год назад

Such great videos man. Entertaining every time! Great production & narration

@FreeFallingAir Год назад

Beautiful picture with the sun-rays shinning through, close call with the drill sealed with a manic laugh😂. Keep exploring and safe travels. Take care my friend, enjoyed as always.

@lofiphixx Год назад

I've been watching your videos for sometime now and I can't get over how impressive this is. I couldn't do it but I'm glad you take us with you on your journeys 🙏🥲

@Laughoutloud702 2 месяца назад

Dude y'all have done things other people would have gotten stuck in and tbr you have became the best on RU-vid for your work respect!!

@yaciinho Год назад

I can’t believe you once said that you aren’t an expert, if this isn’t being an expert in caving i don’t know what it is

@billsanders9387 Год назад

An “ex” is a has been, and a “spurt” is a drip under pressure.

@crazyscooterinvisiblerider925 Год назад

The videos you guys make wich are the tightest squeezes ones are the best. I watch every minute of it everytime, Keep the great work up Calvin & Jacob!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Yeah we are eminently aware that people don't actually want to watch us cave. They want to watch us die. If we are not being crushed by the rocks, the videos will not go viral. We have some terrible terrible videos coming up but they are taking some time to edit. This was just last week!

@clkhere434 Год назад

Something about your videos are just special man. Can't even really point out exactly what it is, but some of my favorite content I have watched and definitely the best cave exploring content.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you. That's high praise. I hope that someday you put your finger on it. And when you do...

@freemover2435 Год назад

Oh God. Those rocks are really sharp! Wonderful video. Thanks for it! :)

@billsanders9387 Год назад

Our knees agree!

$@inphiknitfractal$

@inphiknitfractal Год назад

Always appreciate your life (& cave) perspectives 🙏😊

@Lucifer_87867 Год назад

I’m not fond of small spaces and you give me anxiety just watching. But I love to watch. Keep up the good work

@gg00777 Год назад

It's fascinating that people like you exist, I can't even imagine what it must feel like when you're squeezing through those body crushing spaces, thanks to people like you we get to see something scary and yet magical about our planet. Major respect to you and your friends! Stay safe!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

First and foremost, it feels fun! And that's most important..

@illuminae4725 Год назад

sorry to hear the past 8 months have been difficult. Your grit is awesome!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you! I don't think I was complaining. But some lessons are being learned and I like to speak about those. But I'm willing to complain!

@donovanfriesen4278 Год назад

The anxiety from these videos in crazy, but I always come back for more

@billsanders9387 Год назад

Yup! Caving is similarly addictive.

@liuuuuuuuuuuke1 Год назад

Love your spirit, keep it up! Amazing work

@Pilgrim22 Год назад

Thank you for these videos! Watching these has been exposure therapy for my claustrophobia.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Exposure therapy works pretty well for some people. It did for us!

@obadiahwatkins4766 7 месяцев назад

I just found your channel. What you and your friends and family do is so inspiring. I love the editing, the commentary, and how you explain what you are doing and seeing, and why. Keep up the amazing work, you are remarkable human beings!!!

@CalvinHikes 7 месяцев назад

Well thank you very much for all the kind words.

@brendenshannon2501 Год назад

Keep it up guys you give me inspiration always stay safe calvin!!

@kuyasvlogs Год назад

I just love the background music outta this channellll... Suspense 😅

@chibi-chibi97 Год назад

Thank you for letting people like me see the wonders just sitting under the earths crust. Truly appreciate all you do!

@BobThePilotN4WFH Год назад

Evan I've been watching you and Jacob for over a year. Many thanks for all the adventures. I am claustrophobic and when I I first started watching I would pace in front of the TV watching snippets building up my tolerance. Months of watching allowed me to watch the entire adventure with moments of uneasy. Today I believe you are by yourself and that was tight. Only flashes of uneasy for me at your tightest moments. My uneasiness arises knowing your exploring new areas that might not allow you to turn around after having passed through very tight squeezes. Your attitude, spelunking knowledge and one with your capabilities display a consummate professional. Thanks for sharing.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you and you're welcome. I apologize for not being able to make you squirm as much. We will try to upgrade the claustrophobia.

@Levi_Tollefson Год назад

Glad to hear you're using your ailments/weaknesses to persevere and get stronger in other areas. Still wishing you the best on a full physical and mental recovery to the injury or the thing you said was holding you back.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you! Lot of lessons being learned! But glad to be out here having a good time.

@jraabsicknasty Год назад

You really know how to get a man’s blood pumpin. I’ve got so much respect for you guys, I could NEVER do this. I damn near have a panic attack when I wake up and my bed sheets are over my head lol.

@BillBuckBeats Год назад

Watching the growth of this channel, knowing how humble these gentlemen are, is awesome! Great stuff guys 👍

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you.

@sunder4392 Год назад

Love your channel guys 🔥🔥

@mollyhartley4901 Год назад

Been watching ya’ll for a few months now and love the content!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you so much!

@jefffitz5242 Год назад

I always get excited when they upload a new video. Love me some Calvin and Jacob.

@angelam8026 Год назад

You always give us good things to think about.

@theedrprice6532 Год назад

So I've been watching your videos for a couple months now. I totally respect what you guys do you will go down as Legends. Coming for someone that's claustrophobic I really appreciate what you do. Your videos are very enjoyable.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you so much for the kind words.

@SpeedDemon_Editzzz Год назад

The Cave Conquerors are here💪🔥💯

@apocalypto1 5 месяцев назад

Watching all your vids..... Brother you are a MASTER !!! 🙏🏻

@ThunderChunky101 Год назад

Wondeful little philosophical lessons here, all while in an extremely high stress situation. Very interesting to see.

@billsanders9387 Год назад

We talk to ourselves when survival mode kicks in.

@Sooni98 7 месяцев назад

What you said on leaning on your strengths is so true!

@rudyschurmann6211 Год назад

great video, thanks

@horscategorie Год назад

Every time a new video gets posted, I get to live another adventure. And here I thought I was a caver in my youth... LOL. Not even close. I know because we see the video you make it... but it still feels like a small rock could move and wedge you so you would not be able to extricate yourself. You are, however, quite experienced and knowledgeable. Thanks for sharing as always. It is great following and watching, especially when Jake is along for the adventure.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Poor Jacob, hes got to go to school sometime! We'd live out here if it wasn't so cold in the Winter!

@debskeith Год назад

Absolutely fascinating video…..I have no idea how you do what you do

@Lakers0olll Год назад

Keep up the great work guys!

@carriev9608 Год назад

Glad you're back at it!! 😄

@S1cK292 2 месяца назад

you really decided for the best pic possible for the first pic of the wrestling examples lol!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

This is brand new. There's lots of videos we are still working on but this was just last week. The newest version of me. Old and tired! Check out my friend's caving channel. m.youtube.com/@cravingcaving He commented below. Craving Caving.

@cravingcaving Год назад

Thank you so much for the link to my channel I totally appreciate it! 🙏

@wayneharding5268 Год назад

If you freeze the picture at 1:50 the smoke in the light looks like a ghost dog. Laying down with his huge head turned towards you.

@geneo3654 Год назад

I see it to !

@bankingmyfood8710 Год назад

Best saying the whole video, “I can see the entrance.”

@billsanders9387 Год назад

On that we agree! “Oh, wait! Is that gold again?”

@bobbobinson4101 Год назад

Fascinating and compelling whilst terrifying.

@williamjason1583 4 месяца назад

One day there will be a space too small, a passage too tight a shaft too narrow.

@navydogsadventures4332 Год назад

Great video, I really enjoy your life advice. It is so true. Awesome!!

@billsanders9387 Год назад

It was all learned the hard way. Lava and life are equally challenging

@navydogsadventures4332 Год назад

@@billsanders9387 I can understand that!👍

@alexandergoulet-chevrier634 Год назад

You guys are amazing ive gone througn that cave i couldnt fit you guys are just wow

@billsanders9387 Год назад

We have larger caves waiting. C’Mon!

@mysticridge6975 Год назад

Really appreciate you sharing your wisdom on an aging body. Being an extreme sports enthusiast most of my life, I just had a knee replacement. Boy, do perspectives change when the body is disabled. Stay strong & willful. Thanks for the great content!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

It's a strange sensation that I have not come to terms with yet. Trying to be patient with myself. In a way, we must allow circumstances that we could not stop anyways.

@carriev9608 Год назад

@@CalvinHikes I get it that having patience with the body is tough when not being able to do as much! It gets easier but there are still moments when I wanna scamper to the top of a mountain and not think about the consequences... But you're right, other areas do get stronger. :)

@ciararespect4296 День назад

Hahaha 3:07 gets all new age philosophical about bashing rocks 😂

@zonkerr76 Год назад

Wow!! Tears filled my eyes when I saw that opening with the sun rays and steam coming off the warm moist ground!!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Those are nice moments. Very beautiful. The entry areas in the cave are called the twilight rooms. They get limited sunlight and lots of moisture so there's generally moss and little critters that live right inside that area. Like its own tiny ecosystem.

@bluehorseshoe5450 7 месяцев назад

After watching my first video I discovered this man really likes caves

@CalvinHikes 7 месяцев назад

I really don't.

@mattheworange9927 Год назад

That’s a nice new intro animation.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you!

@Col.Longschlong Год назад

Wish I could go with you guys on these. Looks like so much fun! :)

@CalvinHikes Год назад

It's the most fun I've ever had in my life.

@taran5883 Год назад

Can you imagine going for a hike out in the wilderness and you can just hear some man under the ground singing to himself because little do you know there is a tiny cave entrance hes digging out

@billsanders9387 Год назад

Where we cave is so remote that we don’t encounter people. The animals enjoy our singing, however.

@gemmi1 Год назад

This was amazing!

@ignomoly 20 дней назад

caverns into the mind of that section of earthen homunculus... for a bit of energetic exchanging...

@lauriepage8357 Год назад

Glad you're back and doing better

@CalvinHikes Год назад

I may not live, but I see no reason to sit around on the couch waiting to die.

@cravingcaving Год назад

Great video! Awesome adventure, poetic narration, great editing, very well done!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

I've linked your channel in the top comment and in the lower video description. If you haven't already, you could comment below my pinned comment so people can click on your channel real easy that way too.

@cravingcaving Год назад

@@CalvinHikes So Cool! Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! Pretty sure I have that comment under the pinned comment you posted, thank you! 🙏

@CalvinHikes Год назад

I've also made you a comment moderator. It just means, that you can post your video or channel links on my videos. That's totally up to you. But you're welcome to post links to your videos and take some rub off the viewers here.

@cravingcaving Год назад

@@CalvinHikes Wow what! Thanks 👍 That's a huge honor to me! Thank you so much! 🙏 I will have to figure all that out lol Wow, really cool thanks 👍

@abrahamcordoba7682 Год назад

I shook my head from the 4:40 mark till you came out of the first cave. Wow! Awesome pic from in there at the end.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you! It's a very pretty little entrance. Those are called twilight areas they get very low light just enough to grow ferns and moss.

@damatokid22 Год назад

It would be cool to see a reality game show with challenging caves that contestants would have to navigate through

@billsanders9387 Год назад

This is as real as it gets. It’s also more dangerous than TV will ever allow.

@jsEMCsquared Год назад

Fun! Thanks.

@curtsyforcassie Год назад

You could be a motivational speaker. I love your videos!

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Thank you so much! It's not our intention to entertain but to inspire. If at all possible.

@danidzavala4477 Год назад

Omg you guys are back!!❤

@CalvinHikes Год назад

We died and this is our ghost. I assure you.

@simoneb.4013 Год назад

How can you avoid panic attacks when you realize you are forced tight in that position? Just thinking about that put me on the edge of it

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Patience. That's it. Move slower. Don't be in a hurry. This can solve almost all life problems.

@alexgrujin9762 Год назад

There is no reason to be down there

@billsanders9387 Год назад

Obviously, you have never tried this.

@timothynolan2996 Год назад

Awesome! I'd love to do this!

@Vasco512 Год назад

Amazing

@codydennis5884 11 месяцев назад

Waiting for the Mr. Ballen episode to come out

@CalvinHikes 11 месяцев назад

Never heard of her

@jimothyspeed7858 Год назад

The ones where your in the tiny tight spaces with nothing cool to see we’re the only videos of yours I’d seen until this one. This one seems worth it tbh, changed my mind a bit

@jamesmanolakis2420 Год назад

I've no fingernails left, my stomach is in knots, and my neighbors may be concerned because I keep yelling NO NO NO!!!!!! Great content bro. Be safe, please.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

I have nothing fingernails either. There is no safe option.

@rustykiley3577 Год назад

Seeing Jacob have the mentors he has, is what is missing in many younger humans lives. Many spend way too any hrs gaming/social media. I've even noticed many kids can't really drive as well as they could. (I live in a college town) I suppose they've spent so much time inside and not driving. Seeing Jacob and the other kids get out into nature and gain wisdom gives me hope for our future as humans.

@CalvinHikes Год назад

Average driving age has been set back 2 years over the past generation. When I was a kid at least half kids had their driver's license at 16. That age is now 18. No need for desire to go outside and explore the world. There's a clean comfortable warm world in your house on your couch with your phone. And then everyone's sad and no one knows why.

@Siberius- Год назад

A lot of this is also FROM car-centric urban planning (I'll talk about the U.S.). People used to play outside and explore a lot more, but NOW if kids go out and play, it's often a nightmare of giant roads, no footpaths, everything is designed for cars and the road rules are also dangerous for pedestrians. Giant sprawling suburbs with nothing to see and do, there's often one strip mall servicing a huge suburb where every house looks the same, but you generally need a car to even get there, or anywhere (the birth of the "soccer mom" in her giant SUV to make her feel more safe compared to what they used to drive, a station wagon), and then the teenagers get told to leave the shitty strip mall anyway because they're loitering. Things have changed a lot in many ways. THEN yea the internet, but it's not like the outdoors (reachable by foot) for most teenagers is competing in the slightest anyway. If it was better, and allowed for more social spaces for the community, that would at least help. Ideally there would be quality public transportation everywhere like in Europe, etc. and urban planning would prioritise people and walkability and small businesses, etc. It's a disease in society, among other things that alienate people from one another. Both parents needing jobs, only the kids and maybe 2 parents per suburban house separate from other people. What ever system that makes people have to work the most, have the least personal time, and need the most money to pay things off due to not pooling resources, is where society gravitates towards.